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dusterbd13
11-12-2007, 09:09 AM
well, this is more of a street rat, commuter rod, low budget baby PT, something like that. what we have is a 1980 AMC spirit, bought and paid for with a 100 dollar bill, and driven home. its fugly. but we'll try to make that some better. first and foremost, though, is doing the GRM 2008 challenge. for those not familiar with it, that is a competition that you have to build a car to compete in the autocross, drag, and show for under 2008 bucks. i guarentee we wont win, but were not trying to. were trying to build a daily driver for insanely cheap that will be able to compete in it, and be driven to florida and back to do it.

most of the money is being spent on realiability, safety, and suspension. the brakes are adaquate for what the car is, but may still need to be upgraded for open track events.

the suspension is now rebuilt with ADDCO 1 inch frontr sway bar. 3/4 rear (biggest offered), Prothate bushings, KYB shocks, Cut front coils, Dearched and stiffened rear leaves, refurbished stock brakes, different alignment, and all done for 600.

the engine had all the smog stuff stripped off of it, a hybrid carter 2BBL built, recurved distributor, 2 1/2 inch exhaust, electric fan, AC delete, etc. trying to get it as simple and efficient as possible for next to nothing. total on the motor: 200.

interior is next. we are using a pair of spare corvette sport seats mounted to the factory tracks, and turning the car into a two seater. the rear will be finished with a flat bed, and the rear set will be made into storage pockets and a sub enclosure. teh whole interior is also getting turned black.

as far as paint and body go, i have no ideas. were looking for ideas here, but the front bumper was stripped, the rear bumper in going to get narrowd and reinstalled, the wheels are 15X7 (6 dollars a piece), done in black with chrome lug nuts. were putting driving lights in the lower valance opening, and using the sides for brake cooling ducts.

hope y'all dig it, and feel free to offer suggestions and advice to make the car better at daily driving or handling.

Michael
mostly before

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mostly after
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Damn True
11-12-2007, 09:33 AM
I'd suggest in the name of driveability and a bit of power that you look into transplanting the EFI, manifold and cyl head from a 4.0L Jeep (something like a mid- 90's XJ Cherokee) onto that block. It's a pretty easy swap. A buddy and I did it in his old CJ5 in about 7hrs.

As for the rest of the project:
Not that bizzare an idea.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/79_amx-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/nurburgring_8-1.jpg

AMXs at Nürburgring
In October 1979, the B.F. Goodrich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.F._Goodrich) tire company sponsored two-car team of AMXs in the twenty-four hour Group One endurance race at Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany)'s legendary Nürburgring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_N%C3%BCrburgring) race track.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Spirit#_note-0) Not only were these American Motors AMXs the first American entries in this historic race, but they also finished #1 and #2 in their class out of a 120-car field in this grueling 14.1 mile (22.7 km), 176 turn road race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_race).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Spirit#_note-1) They were the fastest cars on street rubber, BFG T/A radials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_tire).
Amos Johnson and partner Dennis Shaw were the team principals and drivers in the North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina) based "Team Highball". The new 1979 304 in³ V8 powered AMX was already homologated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homologated) to meet Group One production car based rules. Two street-stock cars (both with AMC 5.0 L V8 and four-speed transmission) were obtained by "Team Highball" less than three weeks before a transport ship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_transport) would sail to Europe. With almost no prior time on the race course, the team qualified the cars in 20th and 21st overall. The track tested both the cars and their new street tires, but both finished the race with one car in 25th and the second in 43rd overall. Another unique aspect of these historic racecars is that they were among the few ever to have had a period documentary film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_film) ("The Ultimate Challenge") done about the racecar preparation and race experience.

matthimself456
11-12-2007, 02:50 PM
Wow I bet a huge intercooler would fit in that big hole in the front real good. Maybe a turbo from a junked diesel pickup and a blow through carburetor... What does it have for a transmission?

dusterbd13
11-12-2007, 03:13 PM
it has a 4 speed. funky SR-4. kind of like a toploader/T-5 hybrid.
i like the boost idea. im trying to figure out how to build a stroked, boosted, EFI 4.0 for 500 bucks. that would rock.
oh well, maybe after the challenge we'll do it. assuming the 258 lasts that long.

Michael

Beige
11-12-2007, 06:25 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/nurburgring_8-1.jpg

AMXs at Nürburgring

That's cool.

matthimself456
11-12-2007, 07:07 PM
Look around the rust belt for a complete Cherokee or Wrangler with a 4.0 Jeeps seem to be particularly susceptible to rust, there are bunches of them around here that are rotten to the point of being totally unsafe at only 80000 miles or so. An EFI 4.0 is a really strong motor too. Just make sure you don't hook too hard (or maybe at all) with that SR-4. I could be wrong but I think those are the ones that Jeep guys toss before even seeing if they work.

dusterbd13
09-05-2016, 02:11 PM
Ok, so ill link to the thread that I had been updating on the grm forum, as well as the original build thread from 07.

Start of this thing:
http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1186800979/10#10

Where it all started to go wrong:
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/so-i-accidently-bought-a-car-and-started-a-challenge-team-last-night-have-questions/118042/page1/

Ill pick up the start for this forum where I left off on the GRM forum, so if its somewhat funky, and seems like I copied and pasted from another forum, its because I did. Blatantly. It just makes it easier to cross post to the four forums I am posting on, so I can get the broadest amount of feedback from all areas of the hobby.

Anyway, well start with budget.

Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10

Current total: 720

Ok, ill pick up where I last left off. We had bought a Lincoln, loaded it on the trailer, and sent it to dallas’ dads barn. This was last Tuesday night. August 30th. By the end of the next day, dallas’ dad had called me with a simple question: when the hell are you getting all your **** off of my property?

Umm.....

Well, guess that means we stop collecting and start working. At least try to consolidate the accidental junkyard we started under the lean to.

So yesterday, we got 4/5 of the challenge team together for a work day. The two orders of business: gut the Lincoln for all its worth, and take inventory of parts/scrap. well start with the gutting of the Lincoln. We bought it for the transmission, wheels, tires, engine, battery, and scrap metal. Turned out that it still had 4 catalytic converters, the wheels and tires were scrap, but the engine and trans were MINT. 127k on the clock, and got a bill of sale for the titleless, keyless, had to be hot-wired Lincoln.

We start with a little fun. Roof surfing through the field beside the barn after the first round of degreasing. This thing was dirtier than anything else ive ever bought. I'm pretty sure that the Exxon Valdez leaked less....

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Roof surfing, even at 5 mph through a grassy field, isn't the brightest when one of your teammates is an idiot. He did his best to toss me like a rag doll.

Anyway, we pulled it on the lift, and took inventory of how this thing wanted to come out, and just what we bought. Found the water pump gasket leaking, as well as one of the throttle body heater hoses. Oil leaks from everything below the hood. But a great running, driving, shifting 5.0 and AOD trans for 410. We decided that we wanted to keep the serpentine, efi, fuel pump, engine, trans, drive shaft, and wiring harness. The rest was scrap. Except the trans crossmember. Sold that to a gentleman for a t5 swap in a Flathead pickup. So, 10 bucks back from that....

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We decided to gently remove all the linkages and wring harness from the firewall forward to retain all the EFI wiring and sensors. The rest of it was done with a sawzall.

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And a team picture. The bald guy is cousin garret. He is a dyed in the wool ford guy that likes cutting stuff. Dark haired guy is Dallas, and blonde guy is brother Dustin. There's no pictures of me, cause im so ugly id break the damn camera. Only guy missing from the work day is my dad, who also wants to be part of this. Hes working on getting his motor home ready to go to California in the next couple of weeks, and him and mom will be gone until thanksgiving.

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dusterbd13
09-05-2016, 02:13 PM
So, we accomplished goal number one.

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We then lost a lot of time to cleaning up the shop because Dallas dad came home a day early, and we had promised him a clean shop when he came home. But we got it done...

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The next goal was seeing what we had to start with. Apparently, when I bought the car, I bought the whole pile of crap surrounding it as well. This consisted of dry rotted tires, a couple of mobile home wheels, a cracked in half automatic transmission from a ford, and 4 of these wheels:

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We used the backhoe to pull the car out from under the lean-to, and hit it with the pressure washer. Lots of paint came off with the dirt. Crap.

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Then we got to digging through the car to see what all was in it. A bunch of junk. A bunch of useless, unidentifiable crap that would add weight to the scrapped hulk of a Lincoln, and some gold.

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And now some pictures of the good stuff we found:

Headliner with an almost salvageble backer board
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Radiator, shroud, and some 5 inch spotlights. The bulbs are burned out, but the glass is good!
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All sorts of dryer ducting
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dusterbd13
09-05-2016, 02:15 PM
Aluminum bumper, painted black, with decent end caps (for sale! Make offer!)

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Filthy, beat up batter box with a hold down and greasy unidentifiable electrical pieces in it (i think I spotted a kill switch, but wasn't about to reach in there yesterday due to the rats nest)

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Full lock cylender set

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Misc interior plastics, and pieces of miscellaneous crap. Choke cable, pcv valve, a fuel filter, pop rivets, some cotter keys, etc. I can bore you all with pictures, but look through the photobucket album for full documentation of your a challenge stickler. Did find two more drivehsafts, a trio of autometer gauges under the dash, rotted rear floors where the spring perches mount, some stainless headers that fit god knows what, plywood, and various other pieces of scrap.

http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/library/amc

So, when all was sorted, this was getting loaded in the crusher car.
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So, this is the challenge car I bought in all its hammered, forsaken, wrecked, and parted out glory.

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- - - Updated - - -

Tailpipes for the 2.5 x-pipe exhaust will take a good bit of repair, and im not sure just what the hell is going on with the ISO-clamp delete. But a rear sway bar and poly bushings are still present, though the rear shocks look like absolute junk.
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Underside looks pretty bad. Very hackish rust repair. And dirt. And bailing wire. And rust. And undercoating. And....

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Up front, we have a seriously bent crossmember, apparently bent lower control arms, ford motor mounts scabbed onto the crossmember, a 1 inch-ish sway bar, more poly bushings, a worn out pitman arm, a leaking steering box, kyb shocks, and cut coils.

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We finished the day by beginning to sort the scrap metal. To get top dollar for wheels, we stripped the tires for disposal. The 4 mags, we decided to keep because they're cool. May or may not use them, as they are awfully small for modern slicks. Worst case, kick ass coffee tables.

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That's it for today. Next work day, we will try to change out the crossmember and mock up the 5.0 AOD.

dusterbd13
09-12-2016, 04:56 PM
Challenge Budget:
Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10
Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50
Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
mustang 5.0 convertible engine mounts: 22
1/4 thick, 10x24 chunk of plate steel 7.50 (.30 lb, 25lb)

Current total: 712.50

Ok, so....

We scrapped the lincoln. Had to get it gone. Still have some cats left to scrap to hopefully all but zero it out. Got 89 for it, which sucks. But, its gone. We also sold the rear axle for 50 bucks. So thats nice.

While researching those nifty mag wheels, found a guy that was looking for a set. We settled on 400 delivered. So I delivered them. I can only recoup 200, as that's what we paid for the car. So, the extra 200 had to be spent somewhere. Cant have extra money now, can we?

So we did the only reasonable thing: found a guy that was changing directions on a mustang build. He decided he wanted our 5.0, and offered us a .30 over 302 with “a cam”, GT40p heads, edelbrock RPM intake, and “Holley carb, and Mallory ignition”. For an extra 22 bucks, he threw in the new plugs and 5.0 convertible motor mounts. Now, Dallas knows the guy pretty well. I've never met him. We have a 30 day warranty from date of install on this engine. All for 322!

When I got to the barn the day Dallas picked it up, I was dismayed to say the least. He didn't get us an engine. He got us a freaking pile of engine parts. The heads and short-block looked fresh, and the heads still had reman badges on it. Since the barn is NOT a clean room, we put a hustle on to assemble the thing and get it sealed.

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So, no pictures happened of assembly. Or unloading the crap from the back of the plumbing van. We were in full on get **** done mode.

At the end, we had this:
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I'm still not sure that we didn't get screwed. But the other guy hasn't picked up the 5.0 yet, and I wont let him till I hear this thing run. The “Holley carb” was an AED 750, and the “Mallory ignition” is some summit box/coil/distributor combo. The pistons are cast, the cam is a hydraulic of unknown origin, and the short-block as been run for an unknown amount of time. But we got a crank scraper! Worth at least 100 horse if we add the sticker. And we got an air cleaner of ford descent. I already plan to cut that up and turn it into a cowl plenum air cleaner feeding from where the wiper motor currently lives. We still need to find correct hardware for the timing chain cover and water pump, pray that they guy gave us all the pulleys and accessory brackets like he claimed, and paint it AMC blue before trying to fire it. Oh, and make the headers fit. They hit the block.

We mocked up the engine mounts on the crossmember, and if the studs were in a different spot, they would make the ford engine a bolt in. We have a plan though, involving countersinking some bolts through 1/4 plate and using it as an adapter. I think I can make it easy and all but bolt in.

Also, picture of the trans cooler. I was told that the key to beating the snot out of an AOD for extended periods is to keep it cool. This one is of unknown origin, with missing parts, but was 2 bucks. So, good enough.

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Feedback and criticism are welcome and encouraged. Im making most of this up as I go at this stage.

dusterbd13
09-18-2016, 03:01 PM
Challenge Budget:
Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10
Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50
Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
mustang 5.0 convertible engine mounts: 22
1/4 thick, 10x24 chunk of plate steel 7.50 (.30 lb, 25lb)
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.

Current total: 712.50

Ok, little more wheeling and dealing this week. Found a guy selling a set of still brand new NASCAR wheels and slicks on craigslist for $200. Ad had been up a month. Nascar wheels and tires are 27.5x12x15. Freaking huge. I really didn't now if they'd fit. Called the guy, turned out he lived 20 miles from me. Told him that if he really wanted them gone, id show up in 30 minutes and give him $50 bucks. Shockingly enough, he took the offer. Said something about he got them for free where he used to work, and at least he could buy beer for the weekend.

So, I bought them, praying they would fit. They did not. Not even close.
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So we traded them to dallas dad for the $50 bucks I spent, plus some really old drag slicks on weld wheels. I think the slicks still have a few passes left in them. We overfilled them full of air, and didnt see any major cracking, and my fingernail still went pretty deep. I know they've been in the top of the barn for at least 4 years, year round, flat. Anyone know enough about drag slicks to tell me what to check before they kill me?

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Up next is our first night of actual work on the car itself. Unbending it was step one. Probably should have done that before getting this far. Luckily, the car was far better, though far worse than we expected. We measured every which way we could think of, and the car was still square!!! That’s almost where the good news ends. The car as been the recipient of VERY piss poor rust repair and metal work. Like, the subframe on the drivers side isnt welded to the floor pan, sheet metal only tacked in on the rockers, etc. Scary crap, really, but the lack of structural integrity probably is what saved the car, allowing it to flex when it got wanked.

To remove the crossmember, and the lower control arms from it, we had to chop it into pieces. But the LCAs straightened back out, and the strut rods weren't visibly bent. So, major win!!
And now, for a dump of pictures from Friday night. Feel free to discuss anything you see, as ive never seen another one of these in person. Just this one.

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Next up is moving the car from the barn, and down to my shop. And cleaning. And welding. And cleaning. And welding. And cleaning. And welding. and....

dusterbd13
09-25-2016, 12:55 PM
Challenge Budget:
Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10
Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50
Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
mustang 5.0 convertible engine mounts: 22
1/4 thick, 10x24 chunk of plate steel 7.50 (.30 lb, 25lb)
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.

Current total: 712.50

Update: we went to the charotte autofair this weekend. We spent money, and came away with a hell of a plan.

Before that, though, we were working on the tire package. After all, how are you expected to turn without grip? So far, we have tried nascar slicks (28x12x15) that didn't fit. We had previously run 235/60/15 cooper cobras on it. They fit. The 28x10.5 drag slicks mostly fit. So, I figured some 27x10x15 bias ply circle track slicks would fit. Local circle track racer gave us a set of 4 to try out, that still had a little life left in them.

They do not. Well, they do not clear stock bodywork. They would fit if were were willing to radius the wheelwells. We are not. So we gave them back.

What we finally settled on is a set of 25.5x8x15 bias ply slicks. On 15x7 mopar steel wheels from a diplomat that were given to us. We also tested out the color match industrial gloss paint. The tire in the picture is a 27x8x15. Is actually measures 28x10 when mounted and inflated. We have plenty of clearance with it in the back, but it hits the fender and wheel well in the front pretty bad. Its also not too pinched on the 7 inch wheel. This is a $5 used dirt track tire that we got t experiment. The wheel is done with a harbor freight spray gun as an experiment. Both served their purpose.

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Next is the crusty plated gold we scored at the autofair.

$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.
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BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
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AFCO threaded body coilovers for the front end, $100. The fabricated center link was left by the trash can, so free.

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6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65

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Pair of aluminum seats, $40. Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
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Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
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Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang, and oil pan $15
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Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5

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New challenge budget total: 977.50

This coming week, were meeting a challenge competitor Tuesday night. Then, Thursday or Friday were towing the car to my shop and beginning the cleaning/welding/painting the underside thrash. We need to make subframe connectors while we are at it as well, if anyone has any good info for spirits.

CliffsBlueCamaro
09-26-2016, 03:17 AM
Very cool! I can't wait to see where this is headed. :-)

dusterbd13
09-26-2016, 05:47 AM
Neither can i!!

dusterbd13
10-12-2016, 09:05 AM
Challenge Budget:
Car/parts $200

Donor Lincoln town car: 410

Engine crossmember: 120

Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10

Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50

Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89

trans cooler: 2

Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot

Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)

mustang 5.0 convertible engine mounts: 22

2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05

Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to
Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.

$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.

BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)

AFCO threaded body coilovers for the front end, $100. The fabricated center link was left by the trash can, so free.

6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65


Pair of aluminum seats, $40. Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10

Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)


Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5

New challenge budget total: 977.05

Update time!!

The challenge car is at the shop where we will be doing the majority of the building/finishing. It had a stuck right rear brake drum for no apparent reason, so we popped the drum off to make it roll easier. Pushed it onto the lift, and got all the **** cleaned out and organized on the shelves. Then, started on consolidating the pile of parts. First order of business was making the engine and trans fit. The goal, as it always should be, was to stuff it as far back and low in the chassis as physically possible, without having to re-engineer the firewall/steering/etc. That seems too much like work, so were avoiding it at all costs.

Dustin, Dallas, and I got a start on it Friday night. We learned a few things in the process, such as an AOD is longer from engine to trans mount than a t5. So much so, that a new trans crossmember would have to be made. We also learned that the mustang convertible mounts make the engine almost a bolt in, but are HUGE when it comes time to get to the exhaust. But we used them for mock-up Friday night while we brew on the solution.

After a few hours of eating, cursing, staring, and fiddling, this is where we wound up.
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The engine has about 1/4 inch at the closest point in the firewall. It is as low as we can go without the foxbody oil pan hitting things. The front spark plugs are even with the front most upper control arm bolts, and the crank center line is even with the spindle center line. It is STUFFED back into the engine bay. We will have to drill holes through the firewall to access the transmission bolts, as they are almost completely in the tunnel.

Then, we closed up shop for the night. It was late, and Dallas had his kids the next day.

So we got back on it Saturday evening. First, we had to make a run to tractor supply for more welding wire, a piece of angle iron, and some tarps. Plan for Saturday was to get the drivetrain firmly mounted, and undercoating cleaned off.

Well, it only kind of happened. Building the new trans crossmember took far longer than I thought, between welder trouble, design revisions, etc. But we got it made. Still have to drill the trans mount holes and bolt it down, but I didn't have a single sharp drill bit. Part of the reason it took so long.
But we got a lot done.

Factory trans crossmember half ass installed. Would need a lot of work to fit properly, and heavy.
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And the one I made. About half the weight, strong, and simple.
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And where dallas got to on undercoating remocval. We are using the harbor freight oscillating tool with a scraper blade, and so far its worked great on the softer stuff. We havent tried on the really hard stuff yet. But it all has to come off. That way we can seam weld and paint. Dallas also began stripping everything underneath that wont be reused or needed. Parking brakes, evap lines, old brackets, speedo cable, etc. Everything under here is a greasy, nasty mess. And rusty. Just a miserable job at this point.

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This Friday ill start on the new slimmer motor mounts, as well as getting driveline angles and such set. The team has a busy weekend, so don't expect much. And that's only after I get over this stomach bug and get gas for the welder. The trans crossmember was made without any, and its UGLY.

dusterbd13
10-18-2016, 04:53 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10
Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50
Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.
BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
AFCO threaded body coilovers for the front end, $100. The fabricated center link was left by the trash can, so free.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40. Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10 Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
Tractor supply bolts and washers: 3.06
New challenge budget total: 958.11

So, Saturday didn't exactly go as planned.

I just wasn't happy with the hybrid mustang convertible mounts, so I pulled them out and chucked them in the scrap bin. I figured I could create sold mounts that did what I want them to do cheaper and better than making the rubber ones work. I also wanted to give a fair whack at making things fit better. So, consider these mounts version two. Please give feedback on them, as there's something I don't like and I cant figure out what.
the constraints were simple: light, strong, removable, and as small as possible.
So I used the motor mount brackets from the lincoln as the base. They fit the block, and had a bolt through design. Figured it was a good starting point. But I lost the damn bolts. So we went to tractor supply, where 3.06 netted us two proper length grade 5 bolts, and 4 fender washers. Put them in place on the block, leveled everything up into location, and drank a cup of coffee. Test fitted the mustang long tubes, and realized that the strut rod brackets would be in the way of them fitting, but they were close enough that it seemed worth a try.
So I went to remove the strut rod brackets. The strut rods and brackets come close to 15lbs each side, and are horrible intrusive and introduce significant bind to the front suspension. Plans were previously laid to replace them with heim joints and swedged tubing, so the old ones could come out at any time. (fun fact: the car will not roll without them. Well it will, but the lower control arms cause so much flex that the steering angle changes while you're pushing from the front of the car, the car falls off the lift, and the tires become jammed into the fenders. That was fun....)
So we went to pull the nuts and “captured studs” that hold the strut rod brackets in. My teammate began turning, and two studs on each strut rod bracket started spinning. After cutting the offending “studs” off, I learned that no, one fixed stud and two through bolts that my teammate had missed. Lots of time and cursing because of him not looking close enough under the dirt and undercoating....
Anyway, the passengers side header fell right into place. Awfully close at the collector to the AOD, but workable with a rosebud tip and a cheater bar. The driver side is close, we will have to relocate one or two tubes slightly to clear the firewall and toe-board. But, early mustang headers fit a 302 powered AMC!!!
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So now it was off to build motor mounts. On the passengers side, I got all fancy. This mount will be loaded primarily in compression, so I wanted it to be strong in that plane. Used a few inches of scrap 16 gauge 1x1 square tube that I found out back in the scrap pile. Welded a 3/8 nut in one end, and made a rough guesstimate for height. Also, cut the top of the t short enough to leave room for two fender washers so the engine would stay locked in place on the bolt.
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Drivers side, I was much more concerned about tension. So I used again a few inches of the 16 gauge and fender washers, as well as the last little bit of the 2x2 angle iron from the trans crossmember.
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These were made all in the car so I knew they would fit. Not a comfortable welding position.
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While I was playing fabricator, Dallas was stripping the car. See, we have to get it all the way down to bare surfaces for seam welding, rust repair, hole filling, and painting. Teammate Dustin got us a gallon of PPG rusty metal primer, and a gallon of PPG industrial enamel in race car gray for 1 dollar each. This is not a BS price, it is what he sells the same mistint paint to his customers for. So, win!!
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Lastly, a picture of the scary seat brackets the car came with. They are well fabricated, but they are welded to very thin, very flexible parts of the floor pan. We actually found cracks around the floor on the drivers side from where they were flexing the sheet metal.
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Up next is working up the cage design with our newest teammate, building strut rods so the car can roll, and finishing gutting and cleaning and stripping. We will leave you with a Google image I found of what we want the car to look like at the challenge. Only copper, with steelies. And no front bumper. I have no idea whose car it is, but if you do, please help me contact them. I would LOVE to find out more about it. Its awesome!
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dusterbd13
10-31-2016, 10:51 AM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10
Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50
Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays. BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
AFCO threaded body coilovers for the front end, $100. The fabricated center link was left by the trash can, so free.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40. Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
¼ plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
New challenge budget total: 1041.45
So, we’ve been busy. And things have escalated quickly.
First things first, we had to get the car rolling again, which meant I needed to fab strut rods. A fellow GRM member gave me some tabs for the strut rods, and I ordered 12 inch long swedged tubing. Using the ¼ plate I initially bought for engine mounts, and some cardboard aided design, I have some bolt on plates made for this. According to my research, the frame rails on this car were originally 3 layers of sheetmetal. With all the rust and damage, I figure were probably down to one. I didn’t want to trust my life to a layer of sheetmetal with a bracket welded on. So I traced the curve of the framerail onto a piece of cardboard, and trimmed until it fit both sides. Took my plate and piece of cardboard to j&w welding in Albemarle, where he cut it to size and bent it up for me in about 20 minutes while I waited. Only charged me $25. Took it down to the shop with my 12 inch long swedged tubing, marked and drilled the holes to use the factory strut rod mounting hardware and holes, and started figuring out how to set base caster measurements.
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I found that the fenders were in the way of any quality measurements I wanted, so I decided to get them out of my way. It escalated quickly to “strip everything that isn’t a racecar” phase pretty quickly.
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So, with plenty of access to everything, we could finally finish our assessment of the car. We found busted seams, rust, poor repairs, you name it. But nothing preventing us from building a race car. This thing could never be a restoration or street car candidate again though.
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So Steve Stafford (the aforementioned GRM member) brought me 4 tabs for my strut rods. And eyeballed the project. And joined the team. Sweet!!!
Turned out that he has built a few roll cages, and had the equipment to do it again, along with the engineering background that this redneck doesn’t have. He’s always wanted to do the challenge, but couldn’t commit to being a one man team. So he’s joined us, and were fixing our structural and chassis rigidity issues with a cage. And seam welding. And rust repair. And….
Anyway, we still needed this thing to roll again. There were three things that needed to happen to facilitate this:
1. Strut rods. Not optional.
2. Tires needed to hold air for more than 20 minutes.
3. Engine needed raised for steering linkage and sway bar clearance (cause im a dumbass)

So first, strut rods. I set the spindles at 0.0 caster at roughly intended ride height. Not much caster gain or loss in compression/rebound, so I was happy. Burned the tabs in on my plates, bolted it all together, and double checked my numbers. Dead nuts.
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Next was tires. See, we’ve been trying to figure out just what to do on this front. Tires are important for chassis. And rolling. And stance. And looks. And brakes, and….
We needed something cheap, readily available, had lots of compound choices, and would fit the 15x7 wheels we painted. I found a spec Miata racer local, and decided to try a set of 205/50/15. He GAVE me 4 kumho R comp tires. Mounted them on the mopar 15x7, and bolted them down. Seemed very short. Still do.
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We then moved on to meddling with coilovers/shocks/ride height/etc for a little bit. When I come up with a solution, I will post it. Just haven’t found it yet….
Did find the right stance in the front though!
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Last but not least was raising the engine and creating better mounts. I pulled the foxbody mustang convertible mounts out of the scrap pile, along with various other mounts I’ve tried. The convertible ones, a few chunks of 1x1 tube, and some 1/8 plate, little weld, and here we go!
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Essentially I made a bolt in spacer and plate to adapt the mustang mounts to the 6cyl k-frame mounts. Took a bit of head scratching, but im finally happy with this set.

dusterbd13
11-15-2016, 05:02 PM
I have been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

we have ground, torched, scraped, welded, and repeated the process through an entire tank of shielding gas an 15lbs of wire. and were not done yet!!!

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dusterbd13
11-19-2016, 03:58 PM
so this has happened....

(dark haired guy with goatee is dallas, fat bearded guy is me, intelligent looking guy is steve.


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we have the main hoop and halo fitted and notched, and after the holiday will get the main structure all welded up. exciting!!!

dusterbd13
01-02-2017, 06:09 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.
BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40.
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
4 used nillstein shocks, pull-a-part: 28
New challenge budget total: 1034.453

Were back!!
In my brief hiatus, I decided to take it easy. I brought an 01 miata back from the brink, built a mazda5 for my wife's Christmas present, and changed jobs. Oh, and gutted and rebuilt the laundry room.
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So, we pushed the car back in the shop Friday after work, soaked the water up off the floor pans, and proceeded to bust our butts for the rest of the year. We started with cleaning, organizing, and getting rust/dirt cleaned up.
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While doing this, I made the comment to Dallas that we needed to find a cheap source of sheet metal to use for patching holes, filling firewall, etc. He pointed to his shirt while saying “water heater.”
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He then went to the truck, and pulled out what he called a counter-top water heater that he had replaced earlier in the day and hadn't hauled off to the dump yet. We stripped all the sheet metal off it, and out it back on the truck. I think we got plenty. If we didn't, Dallas said he normally changes two a week, so more is readily available.
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So, whule I worked on pulling the motor and trans, as well as finishing seam welding the engine bay, Steve and dallas got to work on the cage. We started at five Friday, quit at midnight. Saturday was 8am to 2am, and ill let the pictures tell the story. (theres some missing in here, because we were too busy working)
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dusterbd13
01-02-2017, 06:10 PM
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I stopped taking pictures around here, because it was just more welding. But heres a picture of the third sweeping of the night.
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We cleaned shop, and called it a year.

Heres where we left off in the wee hours of 2017.

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dusterbd13
01-16-2017, 04:54 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.
BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40.
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
4 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 28
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Gauge cluster: 32 ebay

New challenge budget total: 1410.85

SHORT VERSION: Where we got to this time is all 8 points on the cage, most holes filled, rust repaired, and front suspension figured out. Also, insanely low ride height.
LONG VERSION:
Friday night, dallas and I got a late start. Between work, etc, it just didnt happen.
But our goal was to get the suspension mostly sorted out. On the rear, we decided that we are staying leaves for simplicity and cost. We looked at truck arms, 3 link, and all the other options. But leaves won out for out purpose. So, we picked up a set of leaf spring sliders that were briefly used on a street car, but were deemed too noisy. These serve to free up the rear suspension movement, make the rear susupension more consistent, replace the rotted and bent shackles, and lower it. We also finally put in the $5 lowering blocks from the autofair. Found that the car already had 1 inch blocks in it, and that the isoclamp system was fully intact. To eliminate the isoclamp is going to take some light fab work, and bring the back of the car up about 1/2 inch. We haven't done that yet. We also need to get new u-bolts, as the free used ones had one strip out on me. Dammit. I'm also debating rear shocks. The unknown blue ones on the back seem good enough at this point, and fit. The suburban bilstein shocks I have will require fab work. Well see what we think when it gets tested.
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We then moved on to the front. Using the coils and adjusters, along with the 1/4 inch plate and 4x4 suburban bilstein shocks, we came up with a good solution. Should give us the ability to corner weight, readily available circle track springs (650in/lb to start), and a readily available shock design all while reducing weight. At least in theory. Still have some welding to do, and a few little parts to get, but rolling right along.
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So, Saturday morning saw me and dallas back at it, making firewall hole plugs, welding up holes in the floorpan and sheetmetal, etc. Steve joined us after lunch, and got cracking on finishing the cage after swapping out the welder spool. We have officially used 10lbs of wire on this thing.
So, dallas got the water heater metal from behind the building, some CAD supplies, and went to work.
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I started with the flux core on welding up the million holes, using water heater metal that we cut out with a hole saw to plug drain holes and suce, and a scrap of flattened copper pipe as a backer on the smaller holes.
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Steve finished the cage welding from last time, and started in on the front downtubes. Plan is to mount the upper shock mounts directly to the tubes, and triangulate to the factry inner fender points. The threaded collar from the spring adjusters will land there, and all the loads from the front suspension will go through the downtubes into the main cage structure.
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Rolled outside at general ride height. Plus or minus a couple of inches on either end....
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And a gratuitous picture of the new gauge cluster. Hopefully I can make it work.
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ryeguy2006a
01-17-2017, 12:32 PM
And a gratuitous picture of the new gauge cluster. Hopefully I can make it work.
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I'm very curious to know how this works! I was looking at the same one. Keep us updated.

dusterbd13
01-17-2017, 03:02 PM
Well see what happens. May wind up with just a few warning lights instead, as budget is getting TIGHT.

dusterbd13
01-30-2017, 07:38 AM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
$5 grant wheel and hub (smaller diameter wheel gives more feedback. Well see if it stays.
BOOM TUBES!!!! ($25, with brackets)
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40.
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Long tube headers for 66-67 mustang 10
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
4 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 28
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Gauge cluster: 32 ebay
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59

New challenge budget total: 1434.44

On Monday. Dallas and I spent a lot of time finishing filling holes, welding details, and smoothing welds. Tuesday night, Steve came over and fitted the dash bar, one of the rear leg braces, and picked up the clamps for the front suspension for a little touch up machining. Wednesday, Dallas picked up the car to transport back to his place. He spent Wednesday night and Thursday night cleaning, scraping, removing undercoating, stripping the floor pans and engine bay, and getting us ready for paint. He also cleaned and painted the transmission. Paint was a half used can of cast coat aluminum he had on the shelf. This is all Dallas, by himself. I'm really impressed by this. Really impressed.
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Friday night, i went over after work to help. We did more of the same, and started to wipe down for paint. I didn't take any pictures, and neither did he. I did do a little shopping on the way home though, in preparation for Saturday.
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Thats a whole lotta crap in the trunk of a miata that doesn't count towards the Challenge budget.

Saturday rolled around. Sunny, cold, and windy. Perfect painting conditions!
So, Dallas, Dustin, garret, and I got an early start at about 11am by drinking coffee and staring at things. We decided that the car was not going to paint itself around 11:30, and decided to actually do something. We vacuumed, used the air nozzle in all the nooks and crannies, taped up all the exterior paint and door jambs with a combination of plastic landscaping sheeting, floor underlayment paper, used making tape, cardboard, painters tape, and sheets. Pushed it up onto some old ramps from a used car dealership out in the field, and hosed the underside with brake-clean and wiped the interior and engine bay with lacquer thinner. Now, a not about the thinner. Garret scored a half full 5 gallon can from a job site sometime last year for free, and we used about a half gallon throughout the process. Since he didn't pay anything for it, we don't feel bad about not including it in our budget even though we used some to mix with the tractor paint to thin it to spray it. If this is wrong, let me know.
Anyway, this is how you DONT prep a car for paint. Also, as Mr safety, since the ramps were pretty wobbly, we used a rope and tied off to a backhoe for added stability.
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So up next was spraying the industrial enamel. None of us has ever used an HVLP gun before. Or any kind of sprayer. But I watched a few other guys do it, and I figured it couldn't be that damned hard. So I volunteered to be the spray guy. Dustin works at a paint store, so he was paint mixer. Dallas was gopher, and garret was designated beer drinker. We first tried loading a little into the gun straight from the can. Did not spray. So then Dustin started cutting it with “enough” Lacquer thinner. Unknown what ratio, but generally 2/3 paint, 1/3 thinner mixed straight in the guns. Worked good enough once I figured out what all the knobs did.
We also made sure to take the minimum number of safety precautions possible. After all, I am mr safety...
Sunglasses, long sleeves, and a toboggan to keep paint out of my hair.
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Three heavy coats later (almost the whole gallon of paint) we pushed the car back inside and unwrapped it. Pretty damn happy with how it turned out!
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Later this week, well try to get the drivetrain back in it, and start reassembly and plumbing.

dusterbd13
02-10-2017, 04:34 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
New challenge budget total: 1233.38

Little budget housekeeping first:
We removed the long tubes (10), boom tubes (25), gauge cluster (32) one seat (20, and only for the challenge. You will see it throughout the rest of the thread, but not at the event coverage), 2 bilstein shocks (14) and grant steering wheel (5 may return). Reason being that we needed to cut the budget due to expected expenses (shifter, u-joints, fuel line tubing, hoses, electrical, steering box, linkages, etc). We are going to make it to the challenge. Maybe not with the car we had planned, but the one we built. I have purchased an adjustable brake bias valve (18, not budget exempt due to not stock replacement) and a roll of nicopp tubing (budget exempt for safety). I need to figure out what the 2 half used rolls of 3/8 steel fuel line tube are worth (current price for a 25 foot roll is 32 at the parts store, but im not sure that there's actually 25 foot worth left between the two. They have been in my storage for YEARS. I need to figure out what scraps of 3/8 fuel line are worth, as I have a box full of 4-8 inch pieces. Need to figure out what a used and noisy fuel pump is worth (i paid 13 for it new, was noisy as hell, pulled it off, got a refund from the seller, and replaced it with a different e2000 pump. Need to figure out what a cobbled together nitrous kit is worth (4 solenoids, 2 plates, an msd retard box, brackets, line, bottle, misc chunks that we cobbled together from leftovers in our sheds years ago and I bought from Dustin and dallas’s stashes for all you can eat Chinese dinner. I used the number 32 in my duster build thread when I got it back then, as I think thats what dinner cost me). Need to figure out what 2 used cans of ford blue, and a half used can of cast coat iron are worth. Please advise!!!

On the accessories front, short version is the guy we worked the deal with on the 5..0-302 swap has vanished without completing the transaction. Long version in the link: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/truth-is-stranger-than-fiction-challenge-budget-question/126281/page1/

So when we got the ruling, dallas got to work. He pulled the accessories from the 5.0 and flexplate, and water pump (different for serpentine), sandblasted and painted. While he was at it, he painted the engine with 2 different cans and brands of ford blue that he had in the cabinet from when his dad restored a mustang, sandblasted and painted everything else that was loose. He ran out of blue before getting the valve covers done, so we shot those in black. Same with the crossmember, engine mounts, brackets, etc. All the concourse points at that challenge that we score will be because of his hard work doing restoration quality detailing. Im amazed at his dedication. Its also proven to be very therapeutic for him to clean and paint stuff, as it helps him to focus on something other than the divorce. Which is GOOD.

Anyway, when I got to the shop last night, this is what we had:

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We then proceeded to do this:
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Which resulted a couple hours later in this:
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We got really lucky. Power steering pump is super close to the box....
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I can fit a finger in between at the closest point, so I guess were good.

dusterbd13
02-23-2017, 07:57 AM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used and noisy fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
Shifters: 7.50 (bought 2 from a forum member for 15, only need one. So 7.50)
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5

New challenge budget total: 1395.37
So, ive gotten the budget caught up with the spending.
Heres pictures.
The pull-a-part haul:
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Theres more there than what they charged us for, due to the fact that we were arrested. But only temporarily. For trespassing. See, the alarm for closing never went off, and we were drug out by the cops. When the manager figured out that we weren't lying thieves, she told us to come back in the morning (140 mile round trip) to pay, and that she would take care of us. She did. Only charged us for 3 cables, gave us the relays, gave us the u-joints, and knocked off the core on the steering box due to our inconvenience and their technical difficulties.
Next, the haul of crap I pulled from my storage area. This thread explains how we came up at FMV for this. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/rambling-fmv-questions/126372/page1/#post2232495
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I fpund the console we pulled out of the AMC in my storage area. Under layers of crap I havent used in years. I dont know if it will fot or be useful, so it may just hit the scrap pile.
The shifters. Floor shifters from an AOD ford product.
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Throttle return springs that didn't fit the duster. Got these at the autofair this past fall, and then forgot they existed. I think I gave 5 bucks.
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Lastly, were working on exhaust. The goal is to make the shorty headers we got with the engine fit, so we can modify the exhaust I got with the car and use it. All about the money on this one.
The headers hit everywhere. The collector hit the block on the drivers side. So Dallas, being the wonderful redneck he is, got out the oxy-acetaline and backhoe to move the collector.
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That one kind of fits now. More to do.

The goal this weekend is to get the fluid lines plumbed, battery box and main cables in, seats mounted, cage finished, and suspension finished. Weve got 2.5 days. Dallas and me Friday night, Steve and me Saturday, Dallas and me Sunday. Expect updates next week!

JohnJ@RideTech
02-23-2017, 12:22 PM
Im really enjoying this build. Its interesting to see the amount of progress you are making while on a budget. Cant wait to see how it all turns out.

dusterbd13
02-23-2017, 02:37 PM
Its challenging to do this on a budget, with a full time job, in somebody else shop, with multiple skill sets and visions. The car is radically different from anything else I have ever built, or had planned on building.

Im as excited to see what happens as everyone else! I have no idea what I'm going to end up with!

dusterbd13
02-26-2017, 06:57 PM
No money weekend. And im tired. Been at it HARD. Dallas and I started 5:30 Friday night, quit at 1am. Steve and I started at 8am Saturday, we quit at 11 PM. Dallas and I started at 11AM today, Quit at 5:15. Were out of shielding gas, cut off wheels, flap discs, knotted wire wheels, and flat black spray paint. And coffee. Definitely out of coffee.

Anyway. Friday night we started on THE LIST. See. I have better luck and organization when I have a punch list. So I make them, on a yellow legal pad. No particular order of the list, just tasks to be finished. I then tape this list to the drivers side windshield. Cross stuff off as completed, make notes, add lines, etc. Very useful for me at the teammates. I had spent the last week working on the list, jotting stuff down at stoplights as I thought of it. It was two columns on the legal pad, whole length. Long list.

So, we started by cleaning out the pile of parts inside the car, organizing the pile in the shop, and cleaning the top of the workbench. Get ready to get ready, so to speak. We had the biggest piles being plumbing and dash parts. So we started there. We tried to fit the factory dash back in the car. Really did. It, however, just didn't work. By the time we clearanced enough to get around the downtubes up front, we had cut the whole end of the dash off, made the cluster unusable, and created a whole bunch of ugly. Oh well, it was heavy anyway. So its in the scrap pile (at least whats left) along with all the bits and pieces to it. One pile down. We did find the old 8 foot florescent light fixtures out there, though, and nabbed a piece of metal to try. I think I like it. But I know I can do a whole lot better. Ideas?
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While I was doing this, Dallas began clearancing the rear bodywork. See, the sliders work great. But the nylon slider blocks hit the sheet metal behind the bumper under compression. They also needed to be retained by more than one bolt. At least according to Dallas. So he did some cutting, drilling, greasing, and finishing.

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In that last picture, you can see some of the bmw battery cable. We decided on location for the battery and starter solenoid based mostly upon the lengths of were there. Battery is located where the passengers rear seat used to be. We also dug the battery box and kill switch out of storage, disposed of the rats nest that was in there, disinfected both, and decided o routing to the back bumper where the kill needs to live per NHRA rules. SCCA doesn't have a hard and fast rule except for accessible from outside the car. So, as in all rules, I am erring to the side of the more strict rule. Kill is right rear corner of the bumper. Box is a marine unit that is WAY too big for the batter we got out of the Lincoln, but its paid for (was in the car when I bought it, with the kill and a rubber battery hold down and a rats nest and some very rusty misc hardware inside it)

I also routed the fuel lines and mounted the tank. Apparently I didn't take pictures. So, next time im down there ill take some. However, take my word that its all there. My fuel pressure regulator came in Friday as well. Remember, this is the 29 dollar bypass regulator straight from china. I was absolutely shocked when I pulled it out of the box and it had aeromotive written on it. Looking closely at the machining, I think its either a knock off that has been blatantly obvious about who they copied, or a factory reject sold on ebay under a different name. Im hoping its a reject.

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We also fitted the seats. Using 2x4 lumber, screws, and a sharpie, we found the correct placement, height, and angle. We will even be able to adjust them, and tie them into the factory seat locations. Good times. Now to make something not out of wood.

I also worked on the hood hinges some. Got them to fit after LIBERAL cutting and grinding. The rear stud on the hood still contacts the front downtube on the cage, not letting the hood close the whole way, but were close.

Called it a night after getting the hood on. Dallas had to work in the morning, and I needed to meet Steve.

Saturday morning, I got to the shop at about 8. Got the coffee going, and the wifi fixed so I could have my Pandora. Then broke out the nicopp 3/16 and tube nuts. Got the engine bay brake lines made and flared. I must say, nicopp is a pleasure to work with. Bends very easy, flares nicely, and doesn't see kinkable. Id heard great things, and so far they are all true. I will do the line to the rear axle in steel, just because im not convinced of the impact resistance of nicopp.

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When I finished the lines, I moved onto fitting headers. They looked like a quick task.

Oh hell no.

The passengers side, with some slight persuasion of a 3lb sledgehammer fueled by Marlboro/coffee/Marilyn Manson, fit fine.

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dusterbd13
02-26-2017, 06:58 PM
Drivers side, with even more severe beatings (crushed the offending tube all but closed) still wouldn't clear the steering column. So I set it aside to help Steve on the cage. We got everything but the door bars in
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Steve had to leave to take his daughter to the daddy daughter dance at about the same time Dallas got done with the plumbing job. So Dallas and I picked up where Steve left off. The front suspension. Steve designed upper shock mounts with 1/8 and 1/4 plate from the scrap bin. They weld to the cage down tubes, and bolt into the factory upper shock mount. They eliminate the need for a strut tower bar, and really tie things together. Dallas and I finished welding those up, and welded up the lower plates. We had to clearance the factory spring pocket in the control arms so we could get the bottom bolts in, but once we got all the fiddly work done, this happened:
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Still need to finish welding, as we ran out of gas. And drill the holes for the upper mounts. Box the lower control arms, add some gussets to the strut rod brackets, and slam in the new steering box and the front is DONE.
Today, Dallas worked on getting the front clip re-installed, checking clearances with the race wheels and tires, attempting to use the set of curbed bullitt wheels I scored for 100, and de-lowering the rear suspension (far too low now that its going back together). I worked on that stupid, simple, easy header job. All day.
Heres proof of Dallas work (except for the de-lowered. No picture of that finished, just in progress):
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Me, I fiddled with a header. Heres where we started.
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Cut the bashed in section out, and shaped with a flap wheel until it cleared the steering shaft by at least 1/8 inch. I then cut a CAD template out of construction paper, and wandered around looking for something of the right thickness to cut a patch out of. Dallas reminded me that the top of the water heater was pretty thick, and we hadn't used any yet. PERFECT!
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After a while with a welder (Harbor freight flux core, as the good welder is out of gas), the last flap wheel, and a put of coffee, we got here.
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DrFraZZy
02-28-2017, 05:11 AM
I have been watching closely.... I gotta say.. this was definitely one of my favorite thread to check in in the past few months.... It has really turned out nice! Its coming along! Keep it up! I like how creative you got with this car and utilizing what you have

dusterbd13
02-28-2017, 08:08 AM
If we can do it, anyone can. Id encourage all the followers of this thread to come and spectate in October, or build a car and compete. Its been a blast so far. Stressful in the budget aspect, but very cathartic in the creativity and imperfection of it.

Thanks for the kind words.

dusterbd13
03-01-2017, 05:51 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used and noisy fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
Shifters: 7.50 (bought 2 from a forum member for 15, only need one. So 7.50)
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
New challenge budget total: 1414.36
So, bonus update!

Monday night, we got a late start. Reason being that I had to meet a couple of forum members from Michigan over in Winston Salem. They brought me a 50s era craftsman horizontal mill that I got from AngryCorvair. Its an awesome piece of equipment that I have no idea how to even operate, let alone use. If anyone here has some good links to the basics of using one of these (like what the knobs do, what the operations are, you know, first day machinist class stuff) I would welcome the threadjack. I believe its made by atlas, and I KNOW I will give it a full restoration and return it to service. Anyway, im super stoked. This is my first real metal working tool other than grinders and sawzalls. Should open up so many more possibilities.

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So after we unloaded, we started working.

You will notice in the plumbing pictures that we used chunks of old heater hose that came with the car, and the 1/2 conduit clamps to secure to the frame rails. Also, you will notice one red, and one green metal line. There are 24 feet of steel line total in this car. In the budget was a 25 foot roll for 25.75. I bought that roll. I chose, however, to use two half rolls instead of the brand new roll. Rather use what I have on this car, and keep the brand new supply for next time. Also, there are no fuel lines in the trans tunnel, per NHRA rules, the regulator is mounted at the front of the engine (NHRA states that it cannot be within 6 inches of the firewall) and there is a total of 7 inches of rubber line in the whole system. (NHRA states no more than 12). Reason for NHRA speak is that the challenge rules states that the car must pass NHRA tech.

so..
Plumbing pictures. Fuel system is done up to the regulator.
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I worked on getting the worn out steering box out, and the new to us jeep grand Cherokee box in. I had found a few vague references to it being essentially a bolt in to the spirit chassis. I honestly didn't expect it to be. Surprise, it is!!! Same bolts, pitman arm fits, rag joint is the same, just hoses are different. But then again, im not surprised. 3.5 turns lock to lock, firm feel, and almost zero dead spot. Ive used the same box in many chevelles.

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I also fitted a coolant overflow bottle that we dug out of the car. Judging by shape, I think this may be the only factory engine bay part other than the brake booster to remain with the car at this point. Anyone have ideas on how to un-yellow it?

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Lastly, started making seat mounts. We had mocked up with chinks of 2x4 and plywood till we got the fit right. Then, taking highly accurate measurements with my yardstick, I transferred the measurements to metal. All stuff I had laying around, except for a couple of pieces of 1x1 all hole tube I got for a dollar a stick from my neighbor who was rebuilding a trailer. I sized them to pick up the factory seat mounts that had previously been welded up before I bought the car. Figure AMC knew what they were doing there, and that it was about the right spot after test fitting. The all hole metal is so that the seats can be somewhat adjustable fore and aft. After all, all the team members are different sizes and shapes. And also, adjustability is always nice when you are making it up as you go. It allowed us to fit the shifter, and I also used a few chunks of rollcage padding and my helmet to check cage clearance. All good here.

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dusterbd13
03-12-2017, 03:30 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used and noisy fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
Shifters: 7.50 (bought 2 from a forum member for 15, only need one. So 7.50)
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
New challenge budget total: 1432.44

So, last couple of weeks have NOT gone according to plan.
And, we haven't done so well at taking pictures.

But, battery is mounted, kill is mounted, main cables are run, melted wiring harness is deconstructed, starter solenoid mounted, fuel system finished, kickdown finished, suspension all but finished, we cut tubes out and remade them in the cage, crank pulley spacer made, jeep box swap finished except for hose, seat mounts made, etc. Busy work, but doesn't look like a lot.
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RMMiller
03-12-2017, 07:13 PM
Couple questions, is this the same car as the original post with the 258/4 speed and what is the gauge out of?

dusterbd13
03-12-2017, 07:43 PM
Yes. Just many years, and much abuse/hackery/damage/neglect later.

Gauge is a universal motorcycle speedometer from ebay.

RMMiller
03-12-2017, 09:09 PM
Thought it might have been a motorcycle gauge, would be a great budget upgrade if it can be made to work.

dusterbd13
03-28-2017, 03:13 PM
We did some stuff that didn't cost any money. Chipping away at that last 20% that takes the other 100% of the time.

First. We got the negative cable terminated to chassis ground. Forgot to take a picture pf that specifically, but you might can see it hanging out in the corner of other pictures.
Second. We got the shifter mounted. Used a crap of strap steel mounted in front and bent to an angle, and 3 1/4 inch bolts run through the floor to act like studs. Still have to mount the cable to the transmission, as I couldn't wrap my head around it last night and was thinking it was too short. But had an epiphany that woke me up at about 3am, of flipping the shift lever over and coming in from the tailshaft end. Looking through some google images, it appears that's the way its supposed to work. Oops.
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Third. We got the last of the brake lines ran, and the prop valve in. Mounted the prop valve to the shifter, as it was easy and accessible. Rear hard line sleeved in surgical vinyl tubing that a nurse friend of mine gave me. Just wanted to protect it from harm....
I also strapped it down as much as seemed prudent to keep it from harm. All that's left on the brakes are new flex lines (budget exempt rubber parts) double check everything for tightness and proper lubrication, attach pushrod to brake pedal, attach brake pedal to clutch pedal for bigger pad for left foot braking, and bleed it.
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Lastly, we took a couple of pieces of angle iron and made rails to mount the seat to the seat brackets and still be adjustable. Yes, you have to loosen and remove 4 bolts to move it, so its not exactly convenient, but its doable. We also got the brackets mounted through the factory crossmember in the front, and spreader plates in the rear, as well as mounted the seat fully. Other seat will be completely fixed when it gets mounted.
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Next is steering column finishing, brake finishing, filling the last 3 holes in cowl and floor, wiring and firing!

dusterbd13
04-09-2017, 04:26 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used and noisy fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Shifter material (going to retain the 7.50 number for now, unsure of what fair market value for this stuff would be)
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Crimping a splice in power steering hose: 13.69
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: ????
New challenge budget total: 1516.12

Weve been steadily getting our asses kicked. By a car. Thats supposed to be at track night in America on april 20th.
That aint gonna happen. Just not going to make it.

So, heres what we have been doing.
First up we scored a set of ex rockcrawler wheels from facebook marketplace. 15x10, curbing, 4.5 bolt circle, and 3.5 of backspacing. Supposedly they are bassett wheels, but I cant find any manufacturer stamping, and frankly don't care.
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We promptly mounted up a set of f45 compound 27x10x15 hoosier circle track slicks that I got for free. They still have some life left in them, and are good enough for what we paid. https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2017/04/20170405_174312_zpsdauyuip3-1.jpg (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/amc/20170405_174312_zpsdauyuip3.jpg.html)
They were immediately mounted to the car to test for fitment. We are going to have to do a little massaging to the sheetmetal. But only a smidge...
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dusterbd13
04-09-2017, 04:27 PM
I gotta say, this makes me fantastically happy. I love monster rubber, and full wheel wells, and flares, and......
Anyway, we pulled them back off for now, as were not there yet. Putting the spec miata stuff back on made me sad....

We next went to work on hooking up the shifter. This should have been quick and easy. 10 ****ing hours later, after making bellcranks, extensions, brackets, etc, I ripped the ford thing out, threw it into the woods, and made my own damned shifter. I don't know what I have in it for budget purposes, as I had all this laying around. 1 inch wide 1/8 sheetmetal strap sock, angle iron from a bedframe, couple of bolts, a piece of an old cutting board, and a control rod from a totalled zero turn mower I bought the engine out of. But here it it in the final ford version that didn't work.
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And heres what I made that works perfect. 30 minutes from ripping ford stuff out to shifting gears. I need to figure out a way to add reverse lockout, and finish it for looks/safety, but its off the list.
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The next workaround we needed was a driveshaft. We had a couple in the car when we bought it, and one was close. Only 3 inches too long. We also had the loncoln driveshaft from the parts car. It was only 21 inches too long. We figured that people have been working on driveshafts for a hundred years, and that hell, its only metal. So we shortened the lincoln shaft. We ground/cut through the weld holding the yoke on, cut the driveshaft to length with a pipe cutter, squared it up the best we could, welded it on, and put it in. We also got our driveshaft safety loop welded in while we were doing this.
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Next was transmission cooler lines. We reused as much of the stock lincoln stuff as we could, because it is paid for. We had to add a little clearance for the lines to the trans tunnel. So, with the proper application of redneck ingenuity and leverage, we got there. We also put in our trans cooler. It came with 4 mounting straps (two in cooler, two in fan) and some hose, which was enough for the trans cooler and power steering cooler.
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Got the fan mounted up, spliced the ford power steering pressure hose to the jeep power steering pressure hose, and plumbed in the power steering cooler. Also finally found an oil filter that fits.
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Dallas found a chunk of 16 gauge steel in the barn left over from god only knows, so we cut it and boxed our lower control arms with it.
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Somewhere in here, we decided we needed a dash. We grabbed that tan plastic thing we got from the dumpster at the autofair in the fall, and cut it till we liked it.
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Lastly, remounted the brake proportioning valve to a chunk of metal from the scrap metal pile. I think it was the old water storage heater bracket to the motorhome from when dad replaced it this fall.
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Tomorrow night is brake bleeding, cooling system install, and steering column finishing.

dusterbd13
05-01-2017, 05:25 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used and noisy fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Shifter material (going to retain the 7.50 number for now, unsure of what fair market value for this stuff would be)
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Crimping a splice in power steering hose: 13.69
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: challemge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got ot for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
New challenge budget total: 1715.08

Holy crap we've been busy. I really don't even know where to start, honestly. I guess we will start with the tire fitment. Well, we all know they don't really. Up front there was no way to turn. The rockers were in the way. So, we cut the last remaining virgin sheetmetal on the car. We also beat the seam flat with a 5lb sledge. Tires clear now.
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While dallas was cutting and beating, I finally gusseted the strut rod brackets. And added the proper hardware/ and painted them black. And made the spacers for the heim joints from a scrap of gas pipe off the plumbing truck.
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We also took the x pipe exhaust that didn't fit, and hit it with a sawzall to make headpipes. I also added a chunk of flex tubing to route the exhaust fom under the car temporarily. But a real exhaust will be fabricated from the chunks of the old. SCCA has a 95db at 50ft sound rule, and I need to follow that for testing.
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Next, we giggled a little. The car is a 97 inch wheelbase, with a front track width of 76 inches. It should be stupid. Which is just right. But, the rear track is a few inches narrower than the front. Its also an AMC 15 with 2.xx gears and a peg leg. It was on borrowed time before this much grip. Wed been half hunting an 8.8 from an explorer. Uncut, they are 2.5 inches wider than the amc15, strong, plentiful, and available with gears that don't suck. Usually they are stupid expensive. I found an ad on offer-up that was at least a month old of a guy parting out a 99. Messaged him, and asked what hear ratio it had. He had no idea. So he sent me a picture of the data sticker, and it turned out to be a 3.73 with limited slip. So I lowballed the hell out of him, as I really wanted the 4.11 gears, and he took my offer of 100 bucks for the complete rear suspension. Springs, driveshaft, axle and all. He even offered to pull it for that price. Unfortunately, he cut the brake hose to the frame from the axle. Luckily, that part was deemed to be challenge budget exempt. It was only 18 bucks, but at this point in the budget, 18 bucks is 18 bucks. The axle will make front and rear track width almost identical. The springs aren't quite the same dimensions as the AMC pieces, but with some mix and match, we should be good there. Ill have to adapt the staggered shock from the AMC as it helps prevent axle windup. And I need to move the perches. So I ordered the cheapest perches I could find.
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So, we then hit full on thrash mode. Dallas custody hearing is this week, Steve is back from busy season, and this damn car needs to be on track ASAP if we hope to have any time to test and tune before the challenge. And I need some seat time, as im freaking rusty.
Dad offered, before he left for vacation, to get our dash designed and made. He was able to locate and get cut a chunk of diamond plate. I think its stainless, cause its heavy as hell and a magnet doesn't stick. Its also some incredibly hard crap. Before I go much further, I need to note that we traded the autometer ultra-lights and sun tach from the car for a pair of jegs 2 5/8 gauges and a black bezel tach. Easier to read on track. So,m when dad left for vacation, he left this on the bench for me.
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After considerable time with a carbide burr, destroying drill bits, measuring, marking, and shooting with some more of that 97 cent spray paint, we get here:
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While trying to figure out how to mount the damn thing, as well as the column, to the roll cage, Dallas was looking through the speedway catalog. He made a comment about pipe standoffs, and went to the supply house. He came back with allthread and apparently pipe standoffs. It worked shockingly well. We put a few wraps of duct tape around the cage to take up the slight amount of slack between the sizes. You can see the clamps and way we did it in the right corner of the picture. We did the same thing to mount the column and pedals to the cage. I couldn't figure out how to make anything I liked that would accomplish the same task.
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Steve was working on cage tubes for the door bars, and Dallas gutting the doors while I was installing the dash and wiring the car.
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I apparently didn't get any pictures of door gutting, other than a really neat stamp on the passengers door. This is how the car finally got a name: Gary. We also decided that our mascot should be Gary the snail from spongebob. But we want to cross Gary the snail with the dodge rumble bee from the quarter windows of a 69 superbee. Anyone any good at photoshop?
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This is where we ended that work day:
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dusterbd13
05-01-2017, 05:26 PM
Up next was getting her to run. We got the gauges hooked up (Dallas was doing a kitchen remodel, and found a braided icemaker line that was going in the garbage as apparently they don't meet code. That, and a couple of used fittings got us a good oil pressure line for the gauge). brother Dustin, Dallas and I spent the night getting the plugs in, the oil pump primed (by hand), fluids filled, fuel leaks fixed, timing eyeballed, gas in the tank, etc. I then proceeded to fight with the starter solenoid for a few days. Finally got it fixed though....
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Due to the starter solenoid issue it didn't fire that night (Dallas birthday). I need the lift for the miata, so I pushed the car outside and used up the last of the paint on the cage and inner doors while it was out there.
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And just because it looks badass off the lift....
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So after I got the miata finished, I sorted out the starter solenoid, made throttle/kickdown prackets, tidyd up plug wires, etc.
Then this happened.
https://youtu.be/1SU3I4QhGRA
Next is sorting out the fuel issue, breaking in the cam, bleeding the brakes, and seeing if it moves under its own power. Maybe big smoky burnout before 8.8 swap.

JustJohn
05-02-2017, 04:11 AM
I did some image searching...

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dusterbd13
05-02-2017, 05:30 AM
Thats awsome!!!!!!

dusterbd13
05-09-2017, 06:56 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
trans cooler: 2
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
Solid steel lowering blocks, with the holes drilled to offset the rear axle rearwards. $5
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
fuel pump: 23
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Used cast coat aluminum paint: 3.50 (advance price is $7 new, and the can was half empty)
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Shifter material (going to retain the 7.50 number for now, unsure of what fair market value for this stuff would be)
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Crimping a splice in power steering hose: 13.69
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown. dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3?
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
New challenge budget total: 1774.57
Ok, when last we left off, it was running with fuel system problems. In the course of troubleshooting, I killed my cheap used pump. Son of a....
So a new fuel pump is in the budget, and the problem was that of the TWO filters that were in the car when I bought it, the one I grabbed was defective. The seal where the two halves of the case were crimped was leaking air, not allowing the pump to generate suction for prime. Before I found this, I tried everything else, including relocating the pump lower. It stayed lower after the fix. I'm going to try to pull the dead pump apart and fix it. Well see if im successful, as it would be nice to take money back out of the budget.
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We also built an exhaust. Due to the constraints of the trans crossmember, driveshaft safety loop, etc, we decided it would be easiest and best to do sidepipes. Steve bought a pair of used glasspacks and some 2 inch tubing from a co-worker that changed his design, and scrounged a couple of chunks of 2 inch stainless. We used bends from the old x-pipe 2.5 system, cut, welded, and hammer-fit until we got an exhaust. There were a couple of hangars we cut off the car when doing seam welding that we repaired and reused as well.
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While Steve was doing this, I was working on tire to fender clearance, and parts pile consolidation. Figured it was time to radius. I almost felt bad cutting these fenders up. Almost.
I also added the prototype tow hook dad had made for his c4 race car. He gave it to us, and I really wanted to add it. So its located on the passengers side through the front valance, and retained with the bolts that hold the idler arm to the frame. The next morning, since I needed the lift, I pushed the car outside. I also washed it, as this damn thing got me dirty just looking at it.
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Next day we worked on this was Sunday. What started as getting the old axle squared up enough for a test drive (iso-clamps wore out, and allowed it to shift around) turned into getting the 8.8 in, shortening the driveshaft another inch and changing the rear yoke to the explorer one, building custom leaf springs, and ....
The short of it is, the explorer axle at stock width is almost designed for this. The factory explorer spring perches line up almost exactly with the inside of the factory AMC leaves. Which means that when you add the spring perches, you can just sit them directly outboard of explorer perches, and the axle is square and centered up in the car. Problem here is that there's no room to get u-bolts down by the explorer perches. Notch the corners, flap wheel a little bit, and bobs your uncle. I also took the time to build higher rate leaves. I used the mail leaf from the AMC with the axle pin hole bored out a little bit, and the two main leaves from the explorer. The big fat bottom leaf from the explorer was left out, and the top leaf was as well. The explorer second leaf lines up almost exactly with the front spring eye of the AMC leaf, which should be very effective for combating wheel hop. I used the explorer axle plates underneath, the explorer u-bolts, and plan to adapt some used bilstiens from the scrap pile (took them off my elky after 10k and threw them away, as they are about dead. They were used when I bough them from the junkyard 4 years ago...) another note is that with the stock width explorer axle, the front and rear track widths are now exactly equal. I didn't plan that, but ill take it!
Anyway, heres pictured of the finished product.
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While we were buttoning up the rear end, Dallas and the new teammates came by. He got majority custody of all three kids. Which is the greatest thing to happen in this entire build thread. Honestly, I could kill the project here, and still call it a complete success as he stayed sane and emotionally stable throughout the whole ugly mess. That was the overall goal when I started the team, even greater than going to the challenge or becoming internet famous.
That being said, we added his three kids to the team. His oldest (Sparrow) was the dedicated lug nut installer .
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She also wanted to model the new smaller steering wheel and quick release setup.
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This was made from the 5 dollar grant wheel from the swap meet, the cheapest splined quick release ebay had to offer, and a chunk of an old s10 steering wheel. Problem I ran into was that the quick release is 6 bolt, 2hich nothing else is. Except a trashed s10 steering wheel from a first gen s10 has a 6 bolt chunk in it that can be removed. Then throw it in a bench vice, bend it around a good bit to change the spacing of the 6 bolts, and bolt the quick release to it. The splines of the s10 wheel fit the AMC perfect, ironically enough. I suspected it was a gm sourced column, and apparently I was right. Anyway, the grant wheel was 5 bolt, not six. So, I eyeballed it square, marked the holes, and drilled it for the 6 bolt pattern in through bolt style. It works. Makes the steering wheel too close to the driver, and makes it where we can move the seat back a few more inches, helping weight distribution. So, overall ill call it a win.
Last thing we really did is watch Steve be a freaking Leonardo davinci. He took bits and pieces from the scrap metal bin, some bolts, a grinder, and a welder and MADE perfect adjustable mounts for a backbrace to the cage. The dude is freaking macgyver mixed with Einstein. I don't know how he sees this stuff in his head and just makes it. Absolutely amazing to see.
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CliffsBlueCamaro
05-10-2017, 03:26 AM
I absolutely love everything about this build. Definitely one of my favorite on the site because of the fabrication skills and "make-it-work" ingenuity. Plus, its really, really different. Keep up the awesome work guys! :-)

dusterbd13
05-24-2017, 05:33 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
fuel pump: 23
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Crimping a splice in power steering hose: 13.69
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown. dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3?
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joints: 21.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
New challenge budget total: 1753.14
In this installment of challenge car insanity. I break lots of stuff and get screwed/saved/come out slightly ahead.
A little housekeeping first. On another forum, the comment was made that our scrap pile seems a little too convenient to be true. Like im lying/cheating. Which im not. This scrap pile has been collecting for a couple of years now, as scrap was down, we were busy, etc. There’s probably 3 houses, and 8 or 9 cars worth of **** in these piles. But I wanted to take photographic proof to prove that I am just that damned lucky.
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First up, our last challenge car night together didn't go according to plan. We had carb issues, running issues, etc. To the point where we hydro-locked the engine when the cab bowl on the primaries overfilled. But before we get there, ill back up a smidge.
We started the night with a short list. Check plugs and headers for tightness. Bleed brakes. Install a lap belt. Install lights. Get running and idling. Test drive. Simple, right?
Right. Sure. Go ahead and laugh now, because you and I both know it aint never that easy.
So, we put Dallas on headers and plugs, me on wiring, Steve on Steve stuff. Dallas took three hours to get the 5 missing header bolts in and the spark plugs on the drivers side tight. Its not that Dallas is incompetant or lazy, its just that dad gum difficult to get to ANYTHING on the drivers side. Especially with the spark plugs being angled, the headers made for a different set of heads, and the steering column being essentially through the primaries in between the two. But he got it done.
While he was doing that, I was doing wiring. Installed the alternator plugs stampie scored for me (2 bucks at his junkyard), hooked up the headlights and spotlights that came with the car, hooked up the side markers and such as well. Still don't have brake lights, but im not sure why. Haven't really looked yet either, which you will see why shortly.
Heres pictures of the lighting. You can also see out tow hook better.
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While we were doing this, Steve was nut and bolt checking things, servicing the fire bottles, and making a dash cap out of gas flue from the scrap pile. Im pretty sure that the flue came from a rental house rehab in china grove, but don't quote me on that.
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We also spent an inordinate amount of time and brake fluid to finally get the brakes bled. And ate the paint off the trans tunnel. But we got that done. And the leaks fixed. Which meant it was time for a test drive!
Except it wouldn't idle. Or run consistently. While I was in drivers seat monitoring gauges and keeping it living, Dallas and Steve were setting timing (by ear, as there is no freaking way to actually get a light on the pointer on the drivers side, and the passengers side pointer has no corresponding marks on the balancer) setting float level, trying to bring the idle down from 2k, etc. Fought us every step of the way, and then overheated. Joy. While we had the key running for the fan to cool it off, we noticed the strong smell of gas. Discovered that the primary bowl vent was spewing gas even after we lowered the float the whole way. Hydro-locked the engine. Done for the night.
Next day, I drained the oil, changed the filter, and pulled the needle and seat to see if it was stuck. It was. With this.
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After that, got the float set. Then, found out TV cable was causing the engine to hang at 2k by not letting the throttle blade close completely. Little bending of the bracket cured that. Added another 1/2 gallon of coolant, and overheating issue went away. Replaced the fragged rear u joint, finished filling the trans with fluid, and began to bleed the power steering system. Promptly blew our hose splice all over the shop. Done for the day.
This should be simple, right? Well, its not. Late model o ring jeep box, mid 90s ford pump. No way to get there from here off the shelf, or cheaply. What I wound up doing was buying a new jeep hose (15.99 orielly) and a 3/8 inverted female flare fitting (2.50) the plan was to flare the metal ends and make a replaceable fitting. Except when I got the ford fitting out, there wasn't enough left to flare. Solution was to have a chunk of 3/8 fuel line welded to it. So I called my local welding guy sonny. He said to bring my pieces over. For 5 bucks, he used some sort of silver welding rod and oxy-acetaline and had it done in less time than it took to type. While waiting for one of his machines to finish a pistol part. He actually gave me my 5 bucks back when I helped him find his chuck key for his big lathe.
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We also got our inside door latched sorted out. Dollar store dog leashes. The little buckle even fit through the factory linkage hole with slight grinding. Works perfect! Steve is again mcgyver.
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So after all this it was time for the test drive of glory. To say I was excited is an understatement. I about pissed myself with glee.
Got in, fired it up, shifted into reverse, and nothing. Stood on the brakes, revved the piss out of it, still nothing. Added fluid. Nothing. Added more fluid. Nothing. Changed the filter. Nothing. Son of a.....
So I pulled the trans. Turns out when we re-installed it we somehow missed the torque converter engagement and destroyed the front pump. Screwed is an understatement. Discouraged and frustrated is an understatement. Walked away for a few days, talked to some people to see what options we have, etc.
Guy at church offered me a trade. A 79 ford longbed with a 302 and 3 on the floor for our dead trans. Seems his one work truck has a bad valve body, and he needs one. Ours was presumably fine (hes a ford guy), and the rest of the trans good as well based upon fluid, previous drive experiences when it was in the Lincoln, etc. His plan was to drop the ford off with us, grab the trans, replace the pump, and put it in his work truck. The longbed he got for free, as a guy he used to rent a building to left it there. 5 years ago. He was going to scrap it, so instead he planned to trade it to us.
Well, no plan of battle ever survives contact with the enemy.
His grandson, who has a 77 ford longbed 4x4, got sideswiped in a hit and run. Grandson had liability only. So, family first. Cant blame the guy. But he wound up giving us 300 for the trans, as that was still cheaper than he could find a known good one for, or even the valvebody he needed. Which left us with enough money in the budget for a trans, but no trans.
Dad came to the rescue. From his RV in Colorado, he found a 3 hour old listing for a ford 302 3 speed trans in Roanoke Virginia for 50 bucks. Supposedly rebuilt, with floor shifter and bellhousing. Jumped in the truck, drove to Roanoke and back in about 7 hours, and picked it up. Then discovered that it was a fixed yoke from a longbed, and did not have a 302 bell. It had a 390 bell. Managed to trade the 390 bell to Gary at city salvage for the 302 bell. Bought a 302 flywheel from craigslist for 45 bucks. In a stroke of good fortune, it all plays nicely together! Even the bloackplate, inspection cover, and starter from the AOD fit!
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The next hurdle is getting the clutch actuation worked out. In 1980, AMC used a hydraulic clutch setup in the 4cyl spirits. We still have a clutch pedal. So, when I ordered my clutch kit from rockauto, I ordered that setup. Should work with minor fab. We also need to add the splined section from the explorer driveshaft to the current hybrid shaft. Making this the 4th configuration of driveshaft with the car never leaving the lift. Hopefully,though, at the end of the holiday weekend it will be moving under its own power. Assuming all our parts get here on time, and it goes according to plan. Ha!

dusterbd13
05-29-2017, 06:05 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
fuel pump: 23
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown. dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3?
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
Driveshaft from 99 explorer 4wd: 22.95
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
New challenge budget total: 1787.31
Things are looking up! Friday night, Dallas and I got the manual transmission swap done. He stopped on the way to the shop at out local speed shop, Bradley auto parts. I've been using them for years. Great guys, and very knowledgeable. And comparable prices to summit/speedway, without the shipping! If you're ever near Charlotte, go check them out. The local speed shop is a dying breed, so support the ones you have!
Anyway, we dressed the flywheel with a brown SOS pad on the die grinder, checked it for damage, chased all the bolt holes, cleaned it, and bolted it up. Made sure to follow torque specs and use locktite. I like my feet, so we sprung for the good ARP hardware on the pressure plate. Factory ford flexplate bolts were the same as the ford flywheel bolts we had picked up, so for budgetary purposes we reused the flexplate bolts.
Before install, we made sure to clean and paint stuff, as concourse is a concern. While cleaning the trans, I found indications that it was black at some point. Seemed like the easy button to just spray it black. We also shot the bell housing in ford blue, with a VERY thin coat, as the can was almost empty. We are now out of ford blue. Hopefully nothing else needs painted ford blue. We don't have the money for it....
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So, install was shockingly easy. Everything fit like it was supposed to. Except the starter. Turns out the nose depths is different between automatic and manual. So we had to buy the cheapest reman that we could find. Oriellys beat autozones prices, thanks to their price-match guarantee. So we grabbed one for a 77 f150. Fit like it was supposed to. We did have to change the holes in the crossmember to meet up with the new location, and reused the rubber mount form the AOD. Then cut a hole in the floor, and kept tweaking the hole and linkage until it fit perfectly and the knob fell easily to hand. Check out the knob that came with our trans. Its awesome! Bass boat flake 70s red knob. Its the perfect size for my hand. Also falls perfectly to hand from the steering wheel, with a very good and easy 2-3 shift. Should be a good thing for track events.
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Saturday morning at oh my god its early, Dallas and I went to the Charlotte pull-a-part. This is the one I haven't been to in years, and for various reasons. This trip reminded me why...
We were on the hunt for a collapsing driveshaft that would accept the explorer rear flange and had a 47.5 inch distance between the u-joints in the middle of its travel. As luck would have it, the explorer driveshaft (remember we had one?) was 47.5 centered. And the front u-joint was the same part number as the 77 f150 the trans was from. So we bought it. While we were pulling it, a dude literally defecated in the van next to the explorer we were getting parts from. I'm not lying. Refuse to ever go back again to this one. Which, if current record holds, will only last about 4 years until time crunch and desperation sets in....
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Anyway, today I worked on the hydraulics for the clutch. After bunches of research, I discovered that the 80 amc spirit iron duke used hydraulics foe the clutch. No others. Except the eagles....
Anyway, after more research, and then some research for something different, I figured out that the slave cylinder ratio would probably best be served by mounting the slave at the edge of the bell-housing and hitting the clutch fork at about halfway between the pivot and the factory mechanical linkage end. Well see if that holds out to be true when I actually get to test it. The master cylinder was a royal pain in the ass to mount, as there just is no easy way to get to the area, or drill the holes with the pedals/dash/cage in the way. But its done. All that's left is the line between the two, and modifying the clutch pedal to pick up the pushrod for the master. And o also have to figure out how to fill the thing....
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dusterbd13
07-14-2017, 04:34 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
fuel pump: 23
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown. dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc.
Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3?
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
Driveshaft from 99 explorer 4wd: 22.95
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
New challenge budget total: 1824.81

So, im trying flickr now due to photobucket being jerkwads. I know that as of this writing, my photos through them are still visible. But, sometime next year they wont be. I probably will not go back and redo all the links on all the forums this is posted on, so I apologize to the reader of the future. Blame photobucket and send them hate mail.

Our last work day was like a month ago. Life has gotten in the way since then, and I also forgot to update.
First up, rear shocks. I had a pair of bent bilsteins from a suburban in the scrap pile. The top eyelet had been bent due to them being too long for the application, and bottoming/binding. Steve looked at them, pressed the eyelet bushing out, took them apart, cut them up, welded them back together, and then made mounts. Hes a damned genius. I have never seen anybody cut and weld shocks before, but it makes perfect sense now that I have seen it. Dunno why I didn't think of it before.
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When he was done doing that, he whipped up some mounts out of 16 gauge metal wall stud scrap from the plumbing truck, and some chunks of 1/4 plate from the bucket.
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Meanwhile I was installing the clutch line and bleeding clutch and brakes and such. I also made front sway bar end links from the scag mower control rod heims, the bushings that came with the car, and some bolts.
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Dallas was busy fiddling with a hundred little details. Like tire clearance. At the outset of this project, I was adamant that I wasn't going to cut the car. So was Dallas. We all know how that worked out....
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Somewhere in the previous few weeks, I had gone to Hoosier Tire South and bought a set (or 4) of scrubs. These are f40 in 27x10x15. We got the worst set (front right corners all with 13 laps) mounted up for our initial break in tires. The stack I bought was a little more volume than I was expecting....
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The other sets are tagged, bagged, and in climate controlled storage.
Back to the workday....
We also got all the front trim and such on, but needed some assistance from my daughter. None of us could fit our hands in to put the hood hinge bolts back on.
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We then went for our first test run!!
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After that, we parked the car for a minute. Until this week. See, we realized that if we didn't get any testing in, there's no point in going to the challenge. So we all registered for the autocross tomorrow at zmax in concord NC. Dallas and I got the other seat in, hood and hoodpins on, fluids checked, etc this week after work and loaded on the trailer. He spent tonight installing the roll chge padding that got delivered this morning. So hopefully tomorrow will be a good test and tune session, with no failures and a better developed car at the end. Gonna be hot though....
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dusterbd13
07-23-2017, 02:33 PM
Alright, now that its a week later....

We went autocrossing. 10 runs total between three drivers. Hit 96 degrees in the shade. Unknown what the temps on course were, as the asphalt is as black as can be. ****ing nuclear inferno hot. I volunteered to work first and run last. Reason being im on medication that has the warning label of don't be in direct sunlight. It should say “welcome to being a vampire”. After about an hour, im cooked. But the meds work, and I work with the side effects.
Anyway, there were 220 cars registered. 4 run groups. Lots of cars...

So, when we got to the track, we set up the pits. Two tents, coolers, chairs, tools, etc. We checked everything over one last time before tech. Only issue they found was that we didn't have our numbers on. Took care of that, and started to look at the course.
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Novice walk went well, walked the course four or five times. Big course, few tricky spots. Mostly decreasing radius and slalom sections with some nasty offset components.
We started getting Steve fit in the car, doing a nut/bolt/fluid check. Steve ripped the steering wheel off. While I scrambled to find a torx bit so our day wasn't over, Dallas ran up the road to get 10 gallons of race gas. We don't know if this thing needs it or not, but the compression sounds pretty healthy. Better safe than sorry. We all got back at about the same time, and a fellow competitor caught this picture (almost all pictures come from other autocrossers, as we were busier that one armed wallpaper hangers being all professional and scientific and ****).
I'm the fat guy in the green gumby shirt in the car.
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You will notice a CAM class duster in the background. I'm a mopar guy if y'all aint figured that out by now. We pitted next to a guy running two new hemi challengers, invited duster guy (Scott) to join our tent city and share our sandwiches and shade, and had a grand old time. Turns out he knew some of the mopar guys I run with, and had wound up with some of my old parts via them. Small world.
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While I was out working, Steve and Dallas started adjusting tire pressures and shaking the car down and seeing what the deal is. Steve picked up 5 seconds throughout his runs, and was able to do a good systems check and make sure the car didn't try to kill us. They also discovered that the thing is a greenhouse in the sun. Dallas had the idea to cover the glass with a packing blanket he found in my truck. Good idea.
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Dallas ran next, and we worked on tire temps and pressures. We got an even 150 across the slicks at 25.5 psi front, 26.5 rear. Kind of worried that tires never got up to temp, but we never ran out of grip. All Dallas runs were in the low 70 seconds range. Fast guys were in the low 60s and high 50s. We were way off pace, but none of us are very experienced autocrossers. During Dallas runs, we kept getting more and more oil on the ground under the car, and reports of noise from the drive shaft while turning. It also started running like crap at idle, but still rand good enough to keep going.
Steve was working course during my runs. I have to say, this car is quite incredible. I couldn't find the limits. Its disturbingly fast, and I couldn't keep up with the car. The driver wasn't fast enough. Very controllable under trail breaking, WFO through any and every sweeper, and only really needed brakes when I took the wrong line. The clutch by this point in the day was engaging very close to the floor, we were having horrendous noises from the flywheel area, I found that the drive shaft was making continual noise, and we lost the ability to find any gear with the trans. Oh, and its incredibly hot and loud. Holy crap. Think of being in a dryer on high heat with about a dozen empty soup cans, some rocks, Metallica, and the battle of Normandy in there with you and you get an idea. But, in my two runs, I ran low 70s while launching in second and trying to keep temps below 220. And learning to drive bias ply, slicks, and an AMC all at once. It stuck like syphilis, pulled like a Mack truck, rode like a Conestoga wagon, took violent and brutal inputs, and left you grinning. Wow what a ride.
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My last run, in the shutdown lane, I couldn't get it into any gear, or to idle. We called it then. Water temp was at 240, we were all overheated and sun-burnt. Got the car pulled back to our pits, opened some ice water, and smoked a cigarette. Successful first outing in my book.
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We got it looked at Friday night. Blockplate is rubbing the flywheel, clutch linkage came out of adjustment due to not tightening the jam nuts. Rear springs need clamped, back end needs lowered. Thermostat stuck. Weld on drive shaft hitting bolt on drive shaft loop. Distributor leaking. Trans leaking from almost every seal.

AWESOME!!!!!!

brownb2
07-25-2017, 11:31 AM
Cheers!! Looks like fun times ahead....

dusterbd13
07-30-2017, 03:05 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
6 5/8 heim and jamb nuts, as well as threaded tube for the front suspension: $65
Pair of aluminum seats, $40 and on;y usng 1 so $20. .
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
Spool welding wire: 33
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
fuel pump: 23
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate: unknown. dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free. I just dont know where, or if I need to FMV it.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc.
Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 12ish (placeholder till I find the receipt or a cheaper one)
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3?
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
Driveshaft from 99 explorer 4wd: 22.95
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
3 inch blocks: 36.99 advance auto
New challenge budget total: 1861.80

Friday night we worked on the car. Figured out the clutch issue is a combination of problems. We forgot to tighten the jamb nut, allowing the linkage to come out of adjustment, and allow the clutch to not disengage. In addition, the bracket that's holding the slave on its flexing. A lot. Like moving an inch or so. After readjusting the linkage, the clutch works again. So yay! Also, the horrendous noises we were hearing was a result of the block plate being bent and hitting the flywheel. There’s some shiny spots now. We figure it will self clearance after a while longer.
Now that we knew the trans didn't have to come out, we decided to work on the list of fixed and tweaks some. Since wit had been a 14 hour work day already, we needed some of the simple things. And Mexican. And sleep.

So we lowered the car. 3 inch blocks and new ubolts from afdvance. It leveled the car out. Looks freaking SINISTER.
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We also diagnosed the power steering noise. Apparently we blew all the fluid out, and it runs low when the car is running and has the cooler filled. So, simple solution is remove the cooler, fill the fluid, and tie a rag around the cap.
Then we looked into the cooling issues. First up, we drained the block and radiator. Mud came out. So we filled the system with some coolant system flush that's been in my cabinet since we bought the house 10 years ago, and began cooling the system. After an hour, we got merely coffee color water back out. The picture doesn't pick it up well. We also discovered that the upper hose was collapsing at high RPM. Dallas pulled an old tractor radiator hose out of the trash pile at the end of the barn, we took the spring out of it, and stuffed it in the upper hose. Problem should be solved. Were running another flush through the system this week, then blowing it out again and adding distilled water and water wetter to the system. We also found a rubbermaid lid on the side of highway 74 to make some air guide plates between the grille and radiator for extra air through the core. You can see it in the corner of the water picture.
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Then we ate Mexican and went to bed.

JayinMI
07-30-2017, 03:26 PM
Were you in the "STD" class at that autocross? Cause that'd be kinda funny.
Are you eventually gonna put fender flares on it? That would absolutely set it off.
I always had a soft spot for these cars.

Jay

dusterbd13
07-30-2017, 03:36 PM
STO. "seat time only". although STD would be hilarious. I think there actually is a street touring D class, wich would be abbreviated STD.

I think I'm gonna have to build a car for that class and name it "the poxy yard". see how many people get it....


and flares are a possibility. were almost out of budget, time and talent. definitely out of talent for bodywork. but it at happen, after all, I'm a redneck with a welder, a rabbits foot, and no fear of failure.

dusterbd13
08-13-2017, 05:08 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
4 5/8 heim and jamb nuts: $37.50
Pair of aluminum seats, $40
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
1/2 Spool welding wire: 16.50
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used, noisy, and mostly dead fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension, driveshaft, and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 7.90
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
3 inch blocks: 25.89
Trans seal: 4.50
Secret weapon: 100
T-shirt material. Bought 5 yards, but the number will change when I see how much I have leftover: 5.98 a yard for a total of 30.90
3/4 gallon of bondo brand fiberglass resin my sister in law was donated at the school and couldn't use. Very old, and possibly expired. $free
New challenge budget total: 1891.05

You'll notice some budget changes. I've been going through with a fine tooth comb, and re-buying some parts cheaper to make room in the budget for paint and body. It seems insane to me to spend real money to save challenge money, but at this stage, its what has to happen. We may have a top 10 car after all. Doubt it, but im being optimistic.

Also, the secret weapon will not be discussed. Also, the final car form wont be shared until the challenge is over. Wed like to have the GRM mag have first crack at seeing what we built for their event, and also don't want to spoil the surprise. After all, other competitors are watching us very closely. Id love to believe that its because they have something to fear, but its more likely that they want to see what kind of lunatic fringe crap we can pull off. We just don't want to give up any potential marginal advantage we may have.
Anyway, we got the car to my shop this past week, and worked on it over the weekend. A bunch.

Started with a good cleanup, and looking over the list of fix-it stuff. I decided that I was going to start on undercar issues. Clutch, safety loop interference, and leaks.
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The rear seal I picked up from oriellys, top plate was leaking and was fixed with some leftover rtv. There’s no pictures of the trans on the bench because I was alone and in the groove. Saturday, Dallas, Steve and I got to cracking, so there's more pictures. We cut the welds on the driveshaft safety look and moved it over by about an inch. One spot, on one driveshaft weld, was hitting one bolt. Now it wont. We also swapped the angle iron clutch slave bracket for one that was made from the square tubing that was welded to the floor of the car when I bought it. Really made the clutch feel better, and it doesn't flex. While I was under there, I also flushed out the power steering system and removed the cooler. We think that the fluid was draining back into the resivoir, overfilling, and puking on startup. That’s why it got noisy at the ends of a run, as it was hot from being low. We also filled the trans with 20/50 engine oil in the hopes of improved shifting. And made the block plate not rub the flywheel anymore. So, hopefully that's all the undercar issues.
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Before I set it back on the ground, I made some leaf spring clamps up with spare bedframe steel I picked up on trashday a few years ago. This should reduce wheelhop. We also swapped the advance blocks for the EXACT SAME blocks that I got 10 bucks cheaper from amazon. https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2017/08/36396259781_4006d19afc_k-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Xsdm1n)20170812_214959 (https://flic.kr/p/Xsdm1n) by Michael Crawford (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150940429@N02/), on Flickr
I moved onto building some ducting for the radiator while Steve made seat back braces, services and repaired out fire suppression, and worked on planning our secret weapon. Dallas fixed the leaking gauge, found TDC and gave us a timing mark, and started cleaning up the interior, underside, etc. No real pictures of Dallas stuff, as it doesn't really look any different.
Seat back braces:
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The radiator ducting was made from a box lid. Dallas found a gray plastic one, I found a white one on trash day last week. We decided to use the white. Few new holes, couple of screws, and done.
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We then spent a while on figuring out fender flares. We need them. We need the car to look finished. Its really too awesome to let the dirt track hack stay. Lets the whole car down, as we've really tried to stay true to what a privateer would have done for IMSA in the late 70’s/early 80’s. That wouldn't have flown back then, so we cant let it fly now.
We started with tape mock-ups of the cut out flares.
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I then took some scraps of metal, and beat/bent/screwed until I was happy with the fender lip to tire look.
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After that, I coated the fenders with a heavy coat of wax, followed by blue tape. See, were making overfenders. Bolt on style. So I need to be able to pop them off. In addition, fiberglass to steel typically doesn't survive well in the long run from what ive heard. So, bolt on seems to limit all the problems. Now remember: I have no idea what im doing here. Making it up entirely as I go. Ive built two fiberglass subwoofer boxes, and that's the extent of my experience working with glass. So, its probably best not to follow these as directions....
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Went to Walmart to get super stretchy polyester cloth. Came home with it.
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Drew the outer edges with sharpie, grabbes some spray glue, and started stretching out a shape.
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Sorry no wide angle. Duster is in the shop as it was raining today, and just not enough room. I did start to get resin on it, out of an old partially used gallon that the school was getting rid of. It still hasn't hardened, and im starting to get nervous. Well see what it does in the morning. May wind up buying some...

dusterbd13
08-18-2017, 01:29 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
4 5/8 heim and jamb nuts: $37.50
Pair of aluminum seats, $40
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
1/2 Spool welding wire: 16.50
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used, noisy, and mostly dead fuel pump: 6.50
Used mix and match nitrous kit: 32
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension, driveshaft, and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 7.90
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
3 inch blocks: 25.89
Trans seal: 4.50
Secret weapon: 100
T-shirt material. Bought 5 yards, but the number will change when I see how much I have leftover: 5.98 a yard for a total of 30.90. Used 2 yards. So, 11.96
3/4 gallon of bondo brand fiberglass resin my sister in law was donated at the school and couldn't use. Very old, and possibly expired. $free
1/2 gallon of new resin: 27.99 at walmart for full gallon, 13.99 to the budget
Gsllon of bondo: 18.99 on sale at napa
30 foot by 50 inch Roll of fibrglass mat: 39.98 but only used 13 feet (rounded up) 17.32

New challenge budget total: 1922.41

Bodywork sucks. Im not good at it. Yet. But, I wasn't a great welder at the beginning of this either, or a great fabricator. Now im passable. Hopefully by the end, my bodywork will be passably good.
Anyway, when we left off, I had stretched t shirt material, and questionable fiberglassing methods. I have learned a lot in the past week. Way more than I ever wanted to, really. But learning new stuff is fun.
It took quite a bit of resin to get all the soft spots out of the t shirt material. Many, many 4 ounce solo cups worth. With a 1 inch brush. Outside in the heat.
Here’s what the surface texture looked like afterwards.
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I then pulled the 10 yard package of random strand mat out of the box. I first tried using large sections at a time. This did not end well, and I have regretted it ever since. What I found worked was to paint the material on the car with resin, chop up some 6x6 squares of mat, stick them to the resin, and then soak more resin in. Sharp edges with this method were a bitch. But, after a few evenings, I had two layers of chopped strand mat on top of my rigid t-****s shapes.
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In between layers, I used my 4 inch grinder with a 36 grit flap wheel to take out bubbles, random spikes, and globs. It made the second layer lay down much nicer. Still not nice, but less bad.
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After this, I broke out the bondo. And the 80 grit on the palm sander. This is where im at for the foreseeable future. Its taking a LOT of bondo to make them smooth enough for a race car. I'm half tempted to smooth them out to good enough, and put a layer of volara foam and upholstery over them. I wont, but it would be a lot easier and faster....
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My buddy art is a body guy. Puts wrecks back together on the cheap for buy here pay here lots. Hes coming by over the weekend to give me some pointers, so hopefully it gets better quicker.

dusterbd13
09-03-2017, 08:20 AM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
4 5/8 heim and jamb nuts: $37.50
Pair of aluminum seats, $40
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
1/2 Spool welding wire: 16.50
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used, noisy, and mostly dead fuel pump: 6.50
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension, driveshaft, and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, used scraps of harness loom, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 7.90
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
3 inch blocks: 25.89
Trans seal: 4.50
Secret weapon: 100
T-shirt material. Bought 5 yards, but the number will change when I see how much I have leftover: 5.98 a yard for a total of 30.90. Used 2 yards. So, 11.96
3/4 gallon of bondo brand fiberglass resin my sister in law was donated at the school and couldn't use. Very old, and possibly expired. $free
1/2 gallon of new resin: 27.99 at walmart for full gallon, 13.99 to the budget
1.5 Gallon of bondo: 18.99 on sale at napa per gallon so 28.48
30 foot by 50 inch Roll of fiberglass mat: 39.98 but only used 13 feet (rounded up) 17.32
Gallon of mistint single stage, oriellys: 50
2 quarts reducer, oriellys: 26
Sold passengers seat: -35

New challenge budget total: 1940.90

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So, I figure I need to bring y’all up to speed. When I last updated, I had started making the flares smooth. Bondo, sand, bondo, sand....
At some point I pulled the flares off the car, and used my cutoff wheel to rough trim them to size. I did this to keep from wasting time and materials on unused portions of flare. To do so, I had to remove the metal from them. As a note for those playing along at home, spray adhesive over freshly waxed metal does not release nearly as easily as the painters tape. It took some nerve racking work to get them out.

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My wife and I then reattached them to the car for final sizing and shaping. Self drilling, self tapping sheet metal screws, and duct tape. Jenny walked around with a tasteful eye and a sharpie. Giving me the final sizes and shapes outlined in red. I used the 4 inch grinder with a cutoff wheel and a flap wheel, and got to shape.
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We then sanded the body. Feathered in all the paint damage, filled some dents, used pop rivets in the trim holes, etc.
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Jenny helped a bunch as well. Sanding, cleaning, washing, etc.
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Yesterday was a big day. We had the WHOLE team here. Except the kids. Must say, the teams gotten bigger as it went. You will see pictures of me, Dallas, Steve, art, jenny, and crystal (Dallas next ex wife). Dallas, Steve and I worked all morning on making the shifter as good as its going to be, beginning fire suppression install, looming and securing wiring, removing nitrous and passengers seat (sold to Dallas girlfriends brother in law), and then the big job.
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Then came taping and masking
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Got the car moved into the driveway, and called all hands on deck. The pretty brunette is my wife. Blonde is crystal, the girl Dallas met at the autocross. Whose brother in law bout our passengers side seat for his duster he was running at the autocross.
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Set up our high tech, incredibly precise spray equipment
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Wiped the car down with lacquer thinner, and finished doing our masking. Art came over to help, as he wants to be part of this insanity. He did the mixing and spraying up high, I did down low. He has a bad knee that wouldn't have been happy kneeling in gravel.
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This morning, I spent a little time restoring the windshield molding, and the rear lights. Stainless trim goes through the buffing wheel. Silver highlights on the lenses done with a silver sharpie.
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Until next time, friends.

dusterbd13
09-25-2017, 05:42 PM
Challenge Budget: Car/parts $200
Donor Lincoln town car: 410
Engine crossmember: 120
Sold transmission crossmember from Lincoln: 10 Sold rear axle from lincoln: -50 Scrapped what was left of lincoln: -89
Sold AOD from lincoln (300, but can only recoup 261)
Engine swap: 5.0 plus 300 boot
Sold kelstar wheels-200 (cant recoup more than we spent)
2x2 angle iron, tractor supply 12.05
Brand new Watkins glen nascar slicks and wheels, which were bought for $50, and promptly sold to Dallas dad for $50 and some weld wheels with really old drag slicks. So, slicks were $0, but $50 taken out of the recoup limit.
4 5/8 heim and jamb nuts: $37.50
Pair of aluminum seats, $40
Sheet of flame retardant high density foam $10
Fire suppression system parts (not included in challenge budget. But ive had 2nd degree burns on the boys before, so were getting safety gear come hell or high water)
1/4 plate, scrap metal yard: 7.50
Mustang convertible mounts 22
Bending plate cost 25
Swedged tubing, ebay: 31.90
Threaded adjusters and 650lb springs, SRI performance: 65
2 used billstein shocks, pull-a-part: 14
Cage materials: 271.40
1/2 Spool welding wire: 16.50
Leaf spring sliders: 40
Clamps for spring adjusters: 23.59
Adjustable brake bias valve 18 (amazon)
2 cans of flat black spray paint (lowes project source) .97 ea
Half melted, used 21 circuit ez wiring harness cut from my duster after the mice chewed it up and it had a meltdown. $5 is what I was quoted as FMV due to the fact that copper prices are down.
Accessories and flexplate: see link in update
Battery cables and relays, pull-a-part: 12.75
Steering box, pull-a-part: 27.50
25feet 3/8 steel fuel line, ebay: 25.75
Bypass fuel pressure regulator, ebay: 29.23
Used, noisy, and mostly dead fuel pump: 6.50
Two half cans of ford engine blue $7
3/8 plastic line clamps, lowes: 1.78
1/2 metal line clamps, lowes: 3.48
Throttle return springs and brackets: 5
3/8 2x compression fittings, 3x npt-compression, 1x t fitting from plumbing supply house: 6
battery hold down, oriellys 5.99
2x 36 inch 1x1 holey tube: 2
Driveshaft safety loop (dad bought it at an auction last week) 5
Tractor supply run for bolts and angle iron: 18.08
Wheels for monster slicks: 50 from facebook marketplace
Lower radiator hose: 14.82
Oil filter: 4.17
Bucket of hose clamps (pull-a-part doesn't charge for these, so I added the admission charge to the yard): 1
Scrap chunk of 16gauge sheetmetal: .25
Suspension, driveshaft, and 3.73 posi 8.8, offerup: 100
Traded ultralights and sun tach for pro-tach, mechanical 2 5/8 gauges and chunk of diamond plate from a 4x4 buggy guy down the street
Rear brake hose: Challenge budget exempt
Spark plug boot insulators, ebay, 11
Spring perches, amazon 17.49
Pipe standoffs (5) and 3/8 allthread, rhulens supply 8.22
Chunk of diamond plate dad scrounged it somewhere, and said he got got for free.
Misc crap (zipties, sheet metal screws, wiring terminals, used toggles, used scraps of harness loom, nuts and bolts, etc. Pretty much the little oddball crap that goes into every build that I had laying around from over the years) 50
Starter solenoid: 7.90
2 inch glasspacks, chunks of 2 inch exhaust tubing, and a little bit of stainless 2 inch: steves buddy: 15
Tow hook: 3
Steering wheel from swap meet 5
Quick release, ebay: 19.99
Manual trans: 50
Flywheel: 45
2 dog leases 1.98
2 u joint straps 5.99
Clutch kit, clutch master, clutch slave: 107.13 shipped
Power steering hose: 15.99
3/8 coupler: 2.50
Welding: 5
Alternator plugs: 2
Starter: 34.39
ARP pressure plate bolts: 12:50 bradley auto parts
Shocks from scrap metal pile: 5
Hood pins: 7.50. Ebay
Hoosier f40 scrubs (budget exempt, byt I bought 16 with a max of 13 laps for 15 each!!!)
Hydraulic clutch line: 25 from the local tow company
3 inch blocks: 25.89
Trans seal: 4.50
Secret weapon: 100
T-shirt material. Bought 5 yards, but the number will change when I see how much I have leftover: 5.98 a yard for a total of 30.90. Used 2 yards. So, 11.96
3/4 gallon of bondo brand fiberglass resin my sister in law was donated at the school and couldn't use. Very old, and possibly expired. $free
1/2 gallon of new resin: 27.99 at walmart for full gallon, 13.99 to the budget
1.5 Gallon of bondo: 18.99 on sale at napa per gallon so 28.48
30 foot by 50 inch Roll of fiberglass mat: 39.98 but only used 13 feet (rounded up) 17.32
Gallon of mistint single stage, oriellys: 50
2 quarts reducer, oriellys: 26
Sold passengers seat: -35
Gallon of light ford gray from tractor supply was 29. We used 1/4. So, 7.25
Quart of semi gloss black rustoleum: 8.99 lowes
Two handfulls of sand from my kids sandbox: .25
Squirt of sem bumper paint for the grille: 1.00

New challenge budget total: 1958.39
I've been busier than a three peckered billy goat. Between work, family, medical trouble, totaling the daily, fixing my nieces truck, putting it out of its misery, etc, I haven't had as much time to devote to this as I would like.
But such is life. After all, im privileged to be able to have these problems, and it beats the alternative by a large margin.
Im still not letting the whole package out of the bag yet, as all good stories wait until the last for the climax, and the climax of this story comes in 20 days. Which means I have a lot off ass to bust in the next 20 days as well, all while reducing stress and caffeine intake and nicotine intake, and sleeping and such so I don't wind up in the hospital again.
It is what it is. And will be the car we have built, not the car we wished we had built, or intended to build, or....
Anyway, since we left off, ive been working on the show part of the challenge. A good way to think about it, from what I understand (this is my first rodeo. I've never even watched the live coverage of the event on the internet) is that the concourse portion is essentially a cruise night. Walking a cruise night with the kids, you see something cool, have a couple of minutes to talk to the owner, and the kids drag you off to the funnel cakes down the way. In the challenge, you get 5 minutes with the judges to show what you built, and the competitors walk the isles and have their say as well. So, its gotta be cool and look good.
The race car gray we sprayed this winter has not held up well to continued shop wear and fabrication and use. Chipped, dirty, ground off, burned, missing entirely, fish eyes, etc. Looked pretty bad. Additionally, the floor was slicker than owl ****, especially since we had the oil pressure gauge leak. And the seat was horribly uncomfortable. And....
Anyway, I have spent an inordinate amount of time with a gallon of light ford gray from tractor supply, and a 1 inch paint brush. Every inch of the engine bay (that I could reach), every inch of the interior. 1 inch brush. Let that sink in for a minute....
In the process, I added some floor traction. My idea was to pain the floor with bedliner, and paint the gray over that. Bedliner costs money. We have no money. However, we have a sandbox. I got a good coat on the floor, sprinkled sand into the wet paint. Did this multiple times until I got what I was going for. Going to be a bear to clean, but there's no end of boot traction. While I was at it, I painted the column and pedals with some rustoleum. My wife and mom cut and glued our foam for the seat, though it needs a little final trimming. We had planned to make a seat cover for the whole thing, but after 4 attempts by my wife, 2 by my mom, and 1 by me, said the foam looked pretty good and fit the theme of the car. Went ahead and installed the shift boot while I was in there. Again, the shift boot was given to me by a guy scrapping a geo tracker. I think it was the transfer case boot.
BEFORE
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First round of sand, or maybe the second
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Finished with sand texture and look
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Overall interior shots:
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Engine bay needs more touch up, and detailing yet. Roll cage padding needs finished putting back in, and I still need to run the hard lines for the fire suppression and mount the handle for the inside system. On ours, the engine is a 5lb bottle system completely separate from the passengers compartment 10 lb bottle with 2 nozzles. Overkill, but having had to tell a nurse about the second degree burns on my balls once was enough for a lifetime. Thats also why I have a 3 layer fire suit.
I also shot the flares. They're pretty rough. Im not happy with them at all, but im out of budget, time, and patience. They probably wont survive long in action anyway, at least not without repair. I fully expect them to crack from cone hits. Hopefully im wrong, but at least im mentally prepared. The picture is the worst spot on the worst one. I swear that they looked great before I painted them. Probably should have gone with bedliner, but....
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This weekend is our last full team workday. Lots to do to prepare, but nothing preventing us from racing other than fresh slicks and a nut and bolt check.

dusterbd13
10-15-2017, 04:58 PM
So, our last workday was the do or die day. The car needed to ne finished, for all our sakes. So, if it wasnt done, it wasnt getting done before we packed it on the trailer and headed for gainesville. The list was long, the day was hot, and we were all ready to be finished with the project. We were close, though.
Steve started by getting out his roll of aluminum HVAC tape, and “re chroming” the grille. Came out fantastic. I reassembled emblems after detailing them with some various sharpies.
Dallas pulled the hood, flipped it over, cleaned and painted the underside. I went after all the spots of gray I had missed, was splotchy looking, etc. Dallas also crawled in between the cage tubes and touched up some that I wasn't flexible enough to reach. I spent some time bending up the interior fire suppression lines, and making a handle mount that was accessible from outside the car as per SCCA rules. While the paint was drying, Steve Dallas and I polished trim and reassembled the front. We also put the car in the air, and painted the entire suspension with semi gloss black rustoleum, as well as blacked out the window trim, and painted the air cleaner with some ,mostly empty cans of wrinkle black I found in the spray paint cabinet. Only one good nozzle, and 4 cans we were pretty sure were empty, but had just enough for a light coat. We added more rivets to the flares for visual balance, assembled the front clip, mounted the wing, and double checked all our work. We were SO busy that I didn't take many pictured during the work, but did take some of the end result.
In addition to this, we got our packing lists finalized, travel plans finalized, adopted a vinyl guy, etc. The vinyl guy is meeting us at the challenge with our custom cut logos and graphics, so no pictures of those until the race report.

So, without further ado, the moment we've ALL been waiting for: the completed car!
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Next, and FINAL, update will be a full documentation of how this whole thing goes. Its on the trailer, with fresh slicks, 30 gallons of 110 octane, spares, and a mission to accomplish. Not be DFL. Have a good time. Be faster than something we shouldn't be. Thats the mission.

Wraith
10-15-2017, 05:46 PM
Love this build! Can't wait for updates.

andrewb70
10-15-2017, 05:52 PM
Awesome!

Best of luck and get a bigger wing next time!

Andrew

dusterbd13
10-29-2017, 02:14 PM
A week later, im finally ready to collect my thoughts on paper.

We loaded up the truck om Saturday, checked the trailer over real good, and then loaded the trailer, fuel, spare tires, etc Monday night. Wednesday morning, at 7:45 am, Steve brought the rain tires and his gear, we loaded into the truck, and made it to south Carolina before the first blow out.
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We got to the host hotel late afternoon Wednesday, and met some fellow challengers in the parking lot. Ate at the restaurant connected to the hotel, met people, and just hung out. Mazduece came in later that night, and unpacked his gear on the floor. Dallas, me, and mazduece shared a room, steve and a few other guys shared another. The dinner in the hotel restaurant was the last food bought until the end of the event on the way home.

We got up Thursday morning, and started to get organized. After coffee and omlettes in the best western dining room. Really good omlettes.
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Got the car off the trailer, got rid of parts that were sold to other competitors, helped some other guys out some, and prepped the car. This included washing, waxing, and generally detailing it.
Steve brought some aluminum discs from where someone was using a greenlee punch at work. Fit the wiper and trunk latch holes perfectly. Patrick tattoo the car with a sticker when I wasn't looking as well. Additionally, we found some contact issues with the flares and competition slicks in a test run around the hotel parking lot. Steve borrowed a grinder, and freehand trimmed the offending 2 right in the middle of the best western parking lot.

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Once that was done, we passed tech with flying colors and were issued all our stickers. Mazduece also broght some that he made for the car of our “sponsors”: amazon, ebay, craigslist, pull-a-part, facebook marketplace, etc. We found all those company logos, and he cut them out of a dollars worth of vinyl. Additionally, he ran with the gary the snail and my mopar roots, making a gary the snail super bee style logo for the quarter windows. And team shirts. And he did some writing for the build book. Incredibly awesome and intelligent guy. Truly a pleasure to get to know him, and I look forward to more time with him in the future. He was able to help in stickering the car, and making it look like a proper race car.

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This year, for the drags, GRM requested we use a number plate on the roof so they could identify the car from the tower. They provided one, but we didn't like it. Just didn't look right with our car. So, mazduece whipped out his arts and crafts skills, and made us a roof gumball.

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Also, in the parking lot, Stampie walked up to me and handed me a bag of lug nuts. They all matched, and more shockingly, matched out lug threads. So we put them on to replace our mismatched, ugly lug nuts.
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Somewhere along the way, we kept banging our heads on the wing. We taped a pair of shop towels to it as flags, and in meeting Mr. And Mrs Shawneecreek, they said we should put stripper tassels on it. For classiness, you know. At the autocross, Mrs. Shawnee creek brought us tassels. She drove to walmart, bought bicycle streamers, drove to the track, and taped them on. They stayed for the whole weekend, both as fun and safety. Didn’t hit my head again on that damn wing.

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Lastly, we hadnt had time or inclination to make lanyards for the safety pins on the fire suppression. GRM, with the reguistration bag, gave us a handfull of GRM key/neck lanyards. The price was right.
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Friday morning, we got to the track briht and early. I had volunteered to work first run group, and let steve and dallas run the car. We had bumped the timing considerably in the pits, fresh tires, fresh gas, full fluids, etc. Steve took the car first. I could tell something was wrong from my corner worker station. Sounded like he had a very hard time getting into second gear, the car began to blow CLOUDS of smoke, and it was breaking up under throttle. I still had 45 minutes of corner working before I would find out what happened. Just as I was getting ready to change, the car came back out for another run in much better shape. Turned out that the dipstick had blown out, and we bumped the timing way too far, shifter was still pretty bad though. Dallas took it for a run, and beat steves time.

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I gave all my runs to the pro driver, Alan Mccrispin. He made that old girl dance, despite a trans that never had the same gears twice, and tires we could NOT get heat in. He was able to get the car down to a 40.8 on his final run, and to do so, I told him to ignore the rising engine temperature. After that run, gaige read 250.....

We pulled back into the pits, where mom and dad had arrived with the motorhome. Mom fed us lunch, dad helped wrench on the car and provided moral support. We worked on the clutch some, and I took it for the only autocross run I made of the weekend. Where I proceeded to knock over about a million cones. It was UGLY. Car was at 230 after that one run. Not good, but night was coming.

When the drag time care around, I agreed to take the first two runs. We just needed a time. A bad one would have sufficed, but we wanted better than bad. I hopped in the car to stage early, and had no clutch at all. All the fluid had disappear somewhere. We bled it with the help of Kevin (high school friend of steves that came to see what all this was about), and had a pedal again. Not a great one, but a pedal. First run was a 16.xx, with me missing gears and a horrible bog on launch. I came back around at 240 on the gauge, and knew the car had a LOT more in it with good shifts and a decent launch. My second run was a 14.8 at 93 with a 2.7 60 foot and bouncing the rev limiter a lot. I also had to back out after 3rd gear due to it getting squirmy. On the turn off road, I started smelling coolant. Got it into the pits, where we had blown a block off fitting out of the block. We fixed that, bumped the rev limiter, strapped Dallas in the car, and proceeded to hot lap it. Dallas would make a good bracket racer. He has great 60 foot times, great reaction times, and is consistently 15.2x at 96

I had one more run in me when the track was oiled down. I was in the car coming to the water box. I know that I could have ripped a 14 flat.

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Saturday was the concourse, scales, and awards. Mazduece again came to the rescue, volunteering to climb through the cage bars to clean all the crap out of the floors that it picked up on track, as well as making us team shirts. We pulled a 22.5 out of a possible 25 points in the show. If we had prepared to present as much as we prepared the car, and then showed off the undercarriage as well, we probably would have done better. We weighed the car, which came in at 29xxlbs without driver, full of fuel. The picture of the scales had Dallas in the car, who goes about 180 if you believe his claim. Heavier than any of us thought it was. Mom made me a birthday lunch and fed the whole team her hommade spaghetti under the canopy at the motorhome. She also did a team picture. Im in front, then Dallas, then Steve, then mazduece.
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The banquet was fantastic. Really good time. Really good food. Worth every penny.

Overall, we were able to pull 9th overall in our rookie year with a transmission that barely worked, an engine that ate a head gasket, and tires that in hindsight were a huge failure in design. We had an incredible time. Met so many awesome people, had so much fun. Honestly, one of the greatest experiences of my life. Its addictive from a social standpoint alone. Sure theres the competition part, but its the PEOPLE that make this event. I WILL return. Maybe even with a car.

The end result of the weekend: blown head gaskets, garbage trans, broken flare, some more fluid leaks, junk clutch hydraulics, and 4 blown trailer tires. The future of this car is unknown right now, but its no longer mine. I gave it, and all the parts/supplies collected, to Dallas Sunday when we returned to Charlotte. The car was intended to give him something to do while going through the custody battle and divorce. Something to work on. Something else to focus on. It succeeded in that. He now has a capable autocross and drag car that will hold its own at a cruise night. Its something that's a transmission and a weekends worth of work away from doing whatever he wants. Safely, reliably, and inexpensively. It met my goal of keeping him sane, and blew my goal of bottom of the mid 3rd of the pack far, far out of the water.

I want to thank all my readers, my family, and my teammates, and the friends I have made through this process for sharing the ride, the results, and the blessings with me. Its been a fantastic journey that I don't think is over yet.

dusterbd13
01-05-2022, 06:22 PM
I wanted to blow the dust off this project.

At the awards banquet at the GRM $2017 challenge, I gave this car to my best friend. I walked away from it. He campaigned it locally in autocross for a short time, then got remarried. Four kids, taking over the family business, car sat. it was sold to a fellow GRM member in Detroit, then went to Chicago, then wandered around. It wound up in Atlanta, mostly parted out and left for dead.
I had made minimal effort to track it down after seeing some on track accidents and realizing my Miata wasn't the right choice as a track weapon for me. Regardless, the amc had wound up with the brother of another grm member in Atlanta, and the owner called me. Offered me the car for free if I wanted it.

I debated for a while after being sent pictures and seeing how far gone it was.

But, the cage sold me on the car. The cage is the main reason I even attempted to track it down as it was a 2016 scca gcr spec cage for hillclimbs. The car never got a logbook, but it was close when I gave it to Dallas. The cage hadn't been hacked up or altered. So we made plans, and Dallas, Dustin and I loaded up and drove to Atlanta.
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when we got there, we met an awesome man who refused my money. Les, thank you again for the car, and the hospitality. I really appreciate it!!

the car was pretty much what I expected. It was never intended for the elements when we built it the first time, and that will be corrected in the rebuild. But this is what I got to start over with. We decided via the fair market value process that for GRM $2000 challenge purposes, the roller was valued at $300
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so, getting it cleaned up and assessed was the first order of business. i shoveled out the leaves and debris. Few pieces of steel, an indy three speed shifter, still has one of the halon bottles and two nozzles. Ford brackets there, tank full of skunked gas, harnesses really crusty, quick release wheel seen better days. The jegs mechanical gauges appear to be salvageable though!
I went ahead and pulled the stuff I could to make it easier to clean and inspect. The fuel tank, though partially full, was really crusty and had some holes in the top. Scrapped it. The seat was pulled, harnesses scrapped, ford mounts removed, padding pulled off the roll bar, and pulled the flares. The flares did not survive well. Car cleaned up reasonably well though!
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next step was planning further than the general “GRM challenge, then hillclimbs and track car to death, LS and four speed should be cheap, and I need bigger brakes and cheap tires” that was my start.

So, one of the guys that pits with me at the autocross is a “retired” hillclimb tech inspector. I had him come out to the house to look over the car and give me an idea of a plan to meet regs and logbook for hillclimb. Him and his wife hung out for a few hours, really dug through the car and listened to my plans. I took notes, and need to get a paper copy of the hillclimb GCR for SPO class on the bench for when I start cutting this thing up.

Here's my notes on paper, then what I jotted down in type when they left

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Spo hillclimb class, cage is legal as designed. Needs gussets at all junctions, and two nascar bars need some more weld. requested to see more tie ins to the body at the roof, a pillar, b pillar, and the planned front tube frame.

They want a front mounted battery kill, externally accessible fire bottle pull, tow hooks both sides front and rear. No glass lights. Window nets both sides. All holes filled in firewall and floor. Steel in car fuel lines, steel in car brake lines. No steering column lock. Gt1 fuel cell ground clearance rules. Rear wheel wells need sealed to quarter panels with non flammable material. Fenders over the tires requested, not required. Lexan or glass windshield. Nonflammable materials throughout preferred. Subframe connectors preferred due to rust in shell. Acrylic or open rear glass ok. Aero unlimited. Must meet noise regs. Weld up holes in rear cage tubes.

I have a plan, and will be getting a logbook!!!

so, I moved on to shopping. Christmas is a fantastic time for used parts shopping. Everyone's looking for money to shop with, or pay with shopping with. And its the off season, so a glut of leftover and no longer needed parts hits the market. I spent a bit of money right off. Ill try to go front to back, with receipt, explanation, and parts. I may miss something.

Up first is the front suspension. The AMC stuff leaves LOTS to be desired, but the killer for me was brakes. Ultimately, its very limited by rotor size until I get to making everything from scratch with two piece rotors, etc. them comes the fact that the steering ratio is slow, camber gain isn't that great, etc. so I decided to clip the car. Ultimately I decided on an rx8 front subframe. Double a arm, rack and pinion, broad parts availability, cheap, and 13 inch rotors out of the box. The even better part is its a self contained subframe, and dirt cheap because nobody wants them. Downside being the electric steering rack cant be stand alone, and possibility of header issues. Regardless, something I can work with. I scrounged around, found a guy up in salisbury parting out a bunch, and struck a deal. For $100, I got a complete front suspension and brakes, extra subframe, rx8 carbon driveshaft, rx7 oil cooler
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then I struck a deal for an engine. Joe Burchett had a complete 5.3 dropout from an 2001 tahoe (allegedly) that ran well and had a bad trans. Came with fuel pump, harness, accessories, dbw stuff, engine, trans. Theoretically everything I need. As ive never done an ls swap before, ill find out what all im missing later. Cause I know ill be missing stuff. Anyway, he dropped it off when he was up this way, and I grabbed it for $500 from him. Was able to sell the “bad” 4l60e for $75 as a core to a local guy, so a $425 5.3 is what im starting with. Its stripped down to the bare engine and manifolds and on the stand waiting for me to do something with it. Its filthy.
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I also picked up a $50 5.3 core from my scrap metal guy. it was in the bed of a scrap car he got, full of water and growing moss. When I got it home, I found that the cam was a ball of rust, the cylinders were completely junk, etc. so I stripped everything salvageable off of it, and traded the junk short-block to another guy on GRM (he thinks he can save the crank) for a neat aluminum shifter handle, corvette aluminum engine stands, and a no-name firewall pedal box (looks like tilton, but no markings. And floor mount, not firewall mount. But I can work with it)
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I sourced a used ls1 flywheel and clutch for $50
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no recipt or picture but a generic $20 used aluminum allegedly good radiator was grabbed

moving out of the engine bay, I was able to source a $300 saginaw four speed from a dude named Tim on craigslist. He pulled it from a big block 70 chevelle. It came with a cracked bellhousing, used clutch, and odd hurst shifter. Its a wide ratio trans, so not ideal, but the price and package was right.
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I guess wheels and tires are next. The AMC came with the set of 15x10 wheels it had when I gave it away, just rustier and wrapped in some old avon slicks. I also was able to score another set of 15x10 wheels for free in between Sunday lunch and taking my daughter for confirmation class. Gave the three ok mud tires to untouchable from grm for spares for his trail rig.
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was able to make a deal on 4 sets of pirelli pzero TA2 tires with plenty of life for 75 a set. Should last me most of a season or two before I need to resupply. At least that the hope. Additionally, these are the same size as common circle track slicks, so cheap tires that are readily available should be no problem.
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the other set of wheels I grabbed are s197 mustang bullet wheels. Some classes require 200tw, and I figured that 200tw would be good for flat towing and rain use as well. Kind of a swiss army knife wheel and tire package. I dont know if ill use them for the challenge, but at this time they are in the budget. Ill wrap them in 245/40/17 rs4 when the time comes.
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I also scored a $40 poly 22 gallon cell. SCCA inspector said it would be ok as long as I do the can, cage, and firewall to regs. Im ok with that, and will do so. The reasoning behind such large cell is so I don't have to carry extra fuel jugs in my truck for a full HPDE day. I can fill up in the morning before the event and run all day is the goal. However, getting it IN the car will be an interesting exercise. But I think I have a plan with going in from the bottom, building the fuel cell cage to catch multiple tabs in double shear with 3/8 bolts. The inspector signed off, but its something I will pay close attention to. Ive had second degree burns over a large portion of my body, including the nads. Not again. I also grabbed a steel filing cabinet from the free pile at habitat that has steel sides big enough and thick enough to make the can out of.

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for the firewall around the cell, I plan to use 16ga aluminum. Found a guy in leesburg with 50x20 sheets listed at $5 each, and stampie, racetruckron and I made a bulk order for cheapness sake. I wound up with 29 sheets at $1.72 each. Its actually a little too thick, but not terribly so. Minimum thickness was 20 gauge.
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up next, lets talk about miscellaneous stuff. The broad brush strokes of plans are cool and all, but the devil is in the details. That's also where most of the fun for me is, if im honest with myself.

As my father beat into my head, “not running is an inconvenience, not stopping will kill you”. So brakes are awfully high on my list of things to spend good money on. To that end, I first looked at whether 15s would clear the rx8 brakes as delivered.
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so, there was a couple of options in front of me:
1. downsize to the automatic rx8 brakes. Less rotor diameter, similar pad size and calipers. Ultimately, lower thermal capacity.
2. Try to build a little big brake kit like FM does for the NC miata using wilwood calipers and off the shelf calipers
3. space the 15s out more than they already will be until everything fits. 1 inch should do it.
I decided that, all things considered, I want to go for four piston calipers that are lighter with a good pad selection for up front. Used wilwood dynalites are cheap around here because of circle track, wilwood makes pads in every conceivable compound, and flyin miata uses them in every little big brake kit.
So I bought some (3 calipers, box of pads) for 60 bucks. Then, I was given another pair of the, for free. So I should have enough to work with for the front. On the rear, I was give a set of 300zx twin turbo two piston calipers and rotors to replace the explorer rear discs on the car currently. I think, overall, that I will lower the unsprung weight while increasing brake capacity and thermal capability. Winning all the way around. Hopefully I can fit it all under my cheap circle track wheels.
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I needed master cylenders for my brake upgrades. I want to use the tilton pedal box and balance bar with different masters front and rear, and will also need a master for the hydraulic clutch system. That added up quickly to 120 the cheapest I could figure. So for 125, I got a box of brakes. 13 master cylinders, two boxes of rebuild kits, a wilwood brake bias bar adjuster, three bias gauge panels, baggie of hardware and fittings, wilwood brake pedal, box of reservoirs, etc. buttload of stuff.
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last misc ill discuss on this post is the SRI performance bag. They're a shop in mooresville that sells used race parts. A lot is overpriced for my purposes, but generally there's some gems in there. This time, I got the billet hood props for $15 for both hatch and hood when they get lighter, a $10 billet crossmember, and a $15 fireproof shift boot. Just good bits to have for this, I believe.
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so that gets us up to today. Called foils metal up in harrisburg this morning and they're bringing in my 3x3 tube for the framerails. They are step one on this build. However, before I start in hard, I need to get the engine in my ACR neon and finish up the rust repair on dads 51 ford truck. And prep the miata for the upcoming autocross season.....

urrent budget total: 1733 with two sets of wheels and tires included