Project 68 The Great One [Archive]

Code Red

10-21-2007, 07:07 AM

I guess I'll start on a project thread for our 68 GTO

Car was purchased in 1999 by my mother who had owned one brand new when she was 18. Well she saw by chance on the history channel Top 10 Muscle cars of all tiem and GTO was number 1 so she decided to buy another one

currently the car has a Pontiac 400 out of, we think, a 70's Bonnieville

the motor is tired and could use a good rebuild here sometime but is still fine for driving currently

4 Speed Manual (I think a muncie my brother specwarsquid will fill in the details)

New hurst shifter

3.55 auburn posi (interesting note the car orginally had a 355 gear set from the factory according to the papers we got form the pontiac historical services but somewhere down the line someone put a economy 2.78 in it)

Axle housing is out of a chevelle since the housing we had was a canadian housing and wouldnt support the 3.55

Car is in need of body work, new paint, and some chroming, also this particular car was Verdoro Green

I already have a new hood for it which was put on for fittign but now is back off and in its box

I guess I'll start off with some before before pics

here you see the car a little after we bought it in 99 at the woodward Tigers GTO show

Car was sitting on Rally IIs on Bias PLy Tires

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I'll add a few more pics and details a little bit later

Code Red

10-21-2007, 11:39 AM

wow no comments huh

this was after my parents added some wheels which I hated (glad they are off the car now lol)

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Code Red

10-21-2007, 11:44 AM

here you can see the condition of the core support thats still in the car I have a new one to put

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the new one might have it in this winter

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BA.

10-21-2007, 12:57 PM

good looking car there....

why/what is that in the 3rd and 4th pictures up from the bottem? Looks like the bottem of the rad. support with some red, white and black paint and the number 4.

Young Gun

10-21-2007, 01:06 PM

^^ i was wonderin the same thing! looks great though!

Code Red

10-21-2007, 02:50 PM

good looking car there....

why/what is that in the 3rd and 4th pictures up from the bottem? Looks like the bottem of the rad. support with some red, white and black paint and the number 4.

some half assed repair I think to the radiator support ;-)

Mr.VENGEANCE

10-21-2007, 05:03 PM

man you like red...

Code Red

10-21-2007, 05:24 PM

man you like red...

you mean there are other colors besides red??????

;)

badbu68

10-21-2007, 08:15 PM

Very nice!

SPECWARSQUID

10-22-2007, 09:09 AM

Just to add some information:

The trans is a Muncie M21

The 400 is a 1972 YT motor with 46 heads.

regarding the wierd looking decal and 4 on the bottom of the rad core support. It looks to me like some previous owner used what ever scrap metal he could find to repair the damages core support.

The front end of the car suffered some sort of front end damage that extended all the way to the frame. The previous owner did his best to fix it himself. But didn't do a very good job as all the front driverside body panels slump down. Bascially they couldn't fix the frame properly so they coaxed all the sheetmetal to fitt the bent frame. didn't really noticed it too much until we tried some replacement body panels and they would fit. At it's worst the driverside sheetmetal slopes down 1 1/2 inches more than it should.

The plan this winter is to explode the front end and pull the frame out from under the car to true it up then blast, coat and rebuild the frame.

At that point will tweak the Hotchkis suspension and get the car lowered in weeds properly.

here are some pics i have:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/01/100_1458-1.jpg

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Shay
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Semper Fortis

BretB

10-23-2007, 01:15 PM

Nice looking '68. My favorite year for the GTO. I have a red '68 GTO also. It's an original solar red car with parchment interior and 400/4-speed. It's not very original anymore.

Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:09 PM

decided to come back and update this a little though it is with older pics still but oh well

this set of pics is from when we took the GTO into the shop to have a new rear end put it

ended up having to get a donor axle from a chevelle since the new 3.55 auburn posi wouldn't fit into the old axle

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also decided to get a few shot under the chassis while it was on the lift a little ugly

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:16 PM

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guess I didnt get a pic of the new axle after it was painted black

Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:20 PM

Changed the carpet out and did notice some floor pan issues which will be taken care of after the car gets torn down

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installed new sill plates

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:27 PM

Hotchkis install

havent done the adjustable pieces yet

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:29 PM

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:32 PM

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:39 PM

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my mom wasn't feeling the rear being lower than the front nor was I but I didnt want to put the perches back in the way they were so We compromised I cut them from 3 inches to 2 (kept the 1 inch for later)

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still kinda high but will fix it later on when I decide to swap the 2 inch perch for the 1 inch

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:44 PM

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decided to refurb the old Rally II wheels and get rid of the old tires

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new coker red line tires

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:45 PM

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on the car

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Code Red

01-05-2008, 12:48 PM

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thats where the car is now

I hoping here over the winter to pull the front end apart and get the body off so we can get the frame to a shop to get it straightened out since there is some damage on it

Roadrage David

01-05-2008, 02:31 PM

i love GTO,s.............

brownz

01-05-2008, 03:02 PM

nice car a like the wheel you put on it much better.

Code Red

01-05-2008, 06:51 PM

nice car a like the wheel you put on it much better.

yeah I was a big fan of the previous ones

I'm going to use the rally IIs for classic shows and then get a set of 18s for crusing and other shows

gearheads78

01-05-2008, 09:42 PM

Nice ride. Big improvment on the wheels.

Code Red

02-04-2008, 03:32 PM

well since it had warmed up a bit I drove the car to one body shop I called them up earlier today and asked if they did frames, but should of been more specific about older car frames after I got there they said they wouldn't touch it since they don't have the specs, but they did recommend another good shop. I called them up and made sure to ask about older frames and they said yes since they have a 55 Belair there

here are pics of the main damage

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and I also believe the frame isn't sitting right in the front since the body panels dont line up right

Code Red

02-06-2008, 03:53 PM

well went to another shop and they quoted about 5 hours on the frame repairs and straightening

Quoted me a ball park of around $500 for the frame rack ($150), 5 hours work, and tailoring to and from the shop ($80 each way) if I pull all the front end sheet metal off

course will probably be more like $600 but I think I can live with that

I think he said without towing would probably be around $350-400

Orngcrush69

02-06-2008, 06:49 PM

Your pictures are a little confusing, are you trying to add height to the car or trying to get it lower?

Code Red

02-07-2008, 01:55 AM

Your pictures are a little confusing, are you trying to add height to the car or trying to get it lower?

lower

the front is about the same height as before and the rear was sitting lower than the front so we added the perches back in but cut them down

Part Time

02-07-2008, 12:32 PM

Hey...looks like you know the guys at Hendricks Automotive.

Code Red

02-07-2008, 12:53 PM

Hey...looks like you know the guys at Hendricks Automotive.

yup been there many times

Part Time

02-07-2008, 01:47 PM

Good people! Going to have them help me with a few things when the Nova gets a little further along.

Code Red

02-07-2008, 03:14 PM

Good people! Going to have them help me with a few things when the Nova gets a little further along.

Dale has worked a few deals for us on work for several vehicles plus good labor rate

bonecrrusher

02-07-2008, 03:47 PM

Code Red

02-07-2008, 03:57 PM

nice car, sad to say but I think your Z24 has less rust then this car. You ever finish that rear seat sub project on the Z? Yeah I'm over on V6z24 as well.

Nice GTO, and your family does really like red.

the GTO is also alot older too ;-)

unfortuatly I havent had the time yet to finish the rear seat delete i would of over the summer if I hadn't been workign in cali and so far this winter I've had other things going on

bonecrrusher

02-07-2008, 07:24 PM

the GTO is also alot older too ;-)

unfortuatly I havent had the time yet to finish the rear seat delete i would of over the summer if I hadn't been workign in cali and so far this winter I've had other things going on

Yeah I can relate to working a ton, I moved from Chicago to Charlotte, and got rid of all of my fwd projects. Oh well stuff happens, and I got a bit of an upgrade over my "B24" and Z26...

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Code Red

04-27-2008, 06:18 PM

started tearing the car apart to get it ready to have the frame fixed and get the engine rebuilt

found some new rust areas and thinking I may just buy new inner fenders

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Code Red

04-27-2008, 06:18 PM

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Mr.VENGEANCE

04-27-2008, 08:22 PM

uh oh..

Code Red

04-28-2008, 05:38 PM

its not that bad going to replace the inner fenders and I already have a new core support and hood to go on the car

Code Red

04-30-2008, 02:32 PM

pulled the driver side fender well off

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SPECWARSQUID

04-30-2008, 05:53 PM

Good work, keep it up :geek:

Shay
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Semper Fortis

Code Red

05-01-2008, 01:37 PM

wow I'm hearing crickets

Code Red

05-01-2008, 02:22 PM

well finished pulling the rest of the front end off

You can see some of the frame damage a bit better and next week the car will go to the shop to get it fixed and aligned right.

Also drivetrain will come out this weekend so I can take the motor to a shop to get rebuilt

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Code Red

05-02-2008, 12:52 PM

man almost making me not want to make anymore posts

Code Red

05-02-2008, 09:22 PM

No more engine, trans, or driveshaft

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Young Gun

05-02-2008, 09:25 PM

looks like you have made some pretty solid progress...seems to be more rust than expected though which sucks...but awsome progress none the less!

Code Red

05-02-2008, 09:25 PM

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Code Red

05-02-2008, 09:26 PM

looks like you have made some pretty solid progress...seems to be more rust than expected though which sucks...but awsome progress none the less!

yeah its gettign there dropping the engine off at a shop in the morning for its rebuild

Roadbuster

05-02-2008, 11:27 PM

Looks like you are making great strides! Those are some creative old repairs. :hmm: Thanks for posting all the pics :kewlpics: - they can come in handy when I am digging into my own 68 and I know something is just not the way is should be!

Jon

andrewb70

05-03-2008, 05:18 PM

Nice progress. Looks like the car was originally green. I like that color on a GTO. Red is nice too :)

Andrew

Code Red

05-03-2008, 05:46 PM

so has anyone noticed that in the one pic I posted it looks liek someone tried to grind something off the block ;)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/IMG_4244-1.jpg

you can still see the Y N but according to my brother looks like all they did was grind off the part number instead of the VIN

andrewb70

05-03-2008, 10:19 PM

On a Pontiac engine, that is where the engine code and the last 6 digits of the VIN go. The block PN is in the rear.

Andrew

SPECWARSQUID

05-04-2008, 05:06 AM

Sorry Andrew, I guess you'll just have to stick to your Big Block Chevys and LSX motors :geek: (just kiddin).

From:
http://www.pontiacpower.net/castnum01.html

Pontiac engines have block code. This code will tell you the year it was to be used. However, these codes were used over from year to year. Together with the casting code and cating date you can determine where what the engine is. Starting in 1965 Pontiac began using a 2 digit letter code. Above the 2 digit code will be the motor unit number, which is either 6 or 7 digits. It is important to note that it is not related to the VIN number. As a general rule, "W" coded blocks are manual transmission and "Y" coded blocks are automatics. And most of the "Z" coded blocks are also auto. The "X" coded blocks are a little of both.

The Engine codes will be found on the front of passengers side of the block, below the head. Above the 2 digit code will be the motor unit number, which is either 6 or 7 digits. It is not related to the VIN number.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/blockcode03-1.jpg

The VIN on Pontiac engines is located vertically just to the left of the passenger side of the Timing cover.

The block VIN (http://www.pontiacpower.net/pictures/blockvin03.jpg)and the vehicle VIN were the same, but by late 1967 the block VIN was revised. It started out with a 2 (for Pontiac), the last digit of the year and a letter for the assembly plant followed by the last 6 digits of the vehicle VIN. It was located on the front of the block, on the passengers side, at the bottom near the timing cover.

Common assembly letters are: A = Alanta, B = Baltimore, C (or S) = Califorina/Southgate, E = Linden, NJ, G = Framingham, MA, K = Kansas City, MO, L = Van Nuys, R = Arlington, TX, x = Kansas City, KN, 1 = Oshawa, Ont. Z = Fremont, CA.
*Note* This number sometimes is stamped very lightly and may be hard to read as seen in this (http://www.pontiacpower.net/pictures/blockvin04.jpg)picture. It is also interesting that this block has the VIN stamped twice on it.

(picture is sideways)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/blockvin03-1.jpg

My theory is that someone ground off the 6 digit unit number thinking it was the VIN ala the Small Block Chevys. Codered has a picture of the faint but intact VIN located next to the timing cover.

Shay
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Semper Fortis

andrewb70

05-04-2008, 05:51 AM

I learn something new every single day.

Andrew

Code Red

05-04-2008, 05:19 PM

well over the weekend loaded the engine up in my truck and dropped it off at a shop for a rebuild and then today pressure washed the front frame looks a wee bit better but sould still use some work may just blast it a bit and then coat it

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Young Gun

05-04-2008, 05:29 PM

Young Gun

05-04-2008, 05:33 PM

something like this...

http://www.ultimatewasher.com/chemical-injectors.htm

Code Red

05-04-2008, 06:15 PM

there is an attachment ive seen for power washers that you can hook it up so it does a mix of water and sand, ill look for it... you could rebuild to front suspension while the engine is off for the rebuild and coat the blasted frame with POR-15...just an idea...but it looks great!

front suspension has already been done I just didnt get the control arms blasted and coated when he springs and bushings were put in I still need to put the new shocks in

gearheads78

05-04-2008, 07:33 PM

Only a few more bolts and the body could be of you know:seizure:

What being done with the motor? stock rebuild ?

badbu68

05-04-2008, 08:04 PM

Nice work! Looks like you're on the right track, too bad about the rust issues but you're getting it done. I'm on my way there with my 68 A body. I think my drivers side inner fender is fine but the passenger side is too far gone. Keep photo documenting, I know I appreciate it. :cool:

Code Red

05-05-2008, 01:00 AM

Only a few more bolts and the body could be of you know:seizure:

What being done with the motor? stock rebuild ?

for the most part upgrading pistons for better compression and getting a RA III cam for it

Code Red

05-05-2008, 03:33 PM

These may make your stomach hurt

CANCER!!!! plus bondo

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so the question will be if its cheaper to reskin or cut and patch

Code Red

05-05-2008, 03:59 PM

I checked yearone.com and they list performanceyears.com catalog seems to be down right now for me and my local shop is closed for the day

RF33LH LH door skin for 1968 models $205.00

RF33RH RH door skin for 1968 models $205.00

RF33LHRH LH/RH door skin pair for 1968 models $387.00

patch panels cover bottom 8 inches of door

JS5003LHRH LH/RH door skin patch panel pair for 1968-1969 2-door models. $82.00

JS5003LH LH door skin patch panel for 1968-1969 2-door models. $44.95

JS5003RH RH door skin patch panel for 1968-1969 2-door models. $44.95

I think the patch panels could cover me but then again its time and labor

jackfrost

05-06-2008, 12:18 PM

seems like reskinning would be easier and end up better...

or try and find clean replacements.

Code Red

05-06-2008, 01:13 PM

well my local shop here in dayton said $140 a piece for whole skins so I may go that route

Code Red

05-06-2008, 01:37 PM

ordered my new inner fenders and my cam today

jackfrost

05-07-2008, 09:10 AM

well my local shop here in dayton said $140 a piece for whole skins so I may go that route

what place is that? do they only do a-bodies?

Code Red

05-07-2008, 09:20 AM

what place is that? do they only do a-bodies?

Restoration World on executive in huber right same road the new meijers is on

they carry parts for many older vehicles heck I even got my hood for my colorado from them they can get quite a bit not sure about G-bodies but you can ask I love going in there and seeing all the parts (only body trim and interior no mechanical)

andrewb70

05-07-2008, 12:58 PM

Personally I would look into getting good, used doors. Try The Parts Place. I know they have a ton of clean used parts.

Andrew

Code Red

05-07-2008, 02:45 PM

GTO went bye bye

well for a little while

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Young Gun

05-07-2008, 02:50 PM

where she going???

Code Red

05-07-2008, 03:07 PM

where she going???

shop to get the front frame horns fixed

Code Red

05-07-2008, 03:18 PM

Old and busted next to new hotness

lol

old vs new core support although the new is actually for a 70

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Code Red

05-13-2008, 03:17 PM

GTO is back

I'm fairly happy with the repair and they said they will pull the frame again once the front end is back on if there is still an issue and ended up being cheaper than the quote

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/IMG_4403-1.jpg
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Through some black primer on real quick to cover up the bar metal

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/IMG_4408-1.jpg
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Also got my cam and lifters yesterday and dropped them off at the engine shop today. They said to stop back by tomorrow and they should have the engine apart for some pics

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/IMG_4406-1.jpg
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Young Gun

05-13-2008, 05:23 PM

nice!

GM_muscle

05-13-2008, 05:30 PM

what cam are you useing in the motor?

Code Red

05-13-2008, 05:37 PM

what cam are you useing in the motor?

Ram Air III

@.050 Lift Opens-0 deg. TDC(int) 57 deg. BBC(exh)
@.050 Lift Closes-44 Deg. ABC(int) 1 Deg. BTC(exh)
@.050 Lift Duration-224 Deg.(int) 236 Deg.(exh)
@.006 Lift Opens-29 DEG. BTC(int) 86 Deg. BBC(exh)
@.006 Lift Closes-88 Deg. ABC(int) 44 Deg. ATC(exh)
@.006 Lift Duration-297 Deg.(int) 310 Deg. exh)
Cam Lift-271(int) 271(exh)
Gross Valve Lift-407(int) 407(exh)
Center Line C/L- 112 Deg(int) 119 Deg.(exh)
Rocker Arm Ratio-1.5(int) 1.5(exh)
Valve Lash-HYD(int) HYD(exh)
OEM #-744 RA III

bwhinnen

05-13-2008, 06:06 PM

This has the makings for a great car, I already like it. Also I have to say I love the neighbourhood you live in! Looks fantastic!

jackfrost

05-14-2008, 06:09 AM

sweet... now get to work. :razz:

Code Red

05-14-2008, 06:18 AM

sweet... now get to work. :razz:

I am at work ;)

Code Red

05-15-2008, 01:35 PM

stopped by the shop today to get some pics of the motor

over all they said it was in good shape and had rebuilt before

bearing were in good shape and they said the cylinders were in good shape so they may just hone them

the cam however has been wiped but i got a new cam to go in it anyways

tomorrow the block gets hot tanked

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Code Red

05-15-2008, 01:36 PM

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Code Red

05-26-2008, 08:01 AM

well my brother decided to do some work on the firewall while I was out of town

not to shabby of a start

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Code Red

05-26-2008, 08:02 AM

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Code Red

05-29-2008, 03:32 PM

checked on the motor today

well they tried honing it but had issues so they decided to bore it out more

it was 40 over now its 60 over

the block is in the cast gray color right now but will be painted pontiac metallic blue

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/05/100_1924-1.jpg
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need to order my headers and I also ordered new valve covers for the motor

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jackfrost

05-30-2008, 05:50 AM

those are very nice covers... engine looks good. i just got mine back as well. i love freshly machine metal. :)

Code Red

05-30-2008, 06:00 AM

those are very nice covers... engine looks good. i just got mine back as well. i love freshly machine metal. :)

who did your work? Kammer and Kammer in Huber Heights is doing mine

jackfrost

05-30-2008, 06:08 AM

who did your work? Kammer and Kammer in Huber Heights is doing mine

Dayton Crankshaft on Davis Ave. those guys are great, and will talk your ear off about cars any day.

Motown 454

05-30-2008, 02:12 PM

Hi Andrew you guys are doing an awesome job. I've been watching for a while and look forward to your updates.
Wayne

Code Red

05-30-2008, 09:20 PM

Hi Andrew you guys are doing an awesome job. I've been watching for a while and look forward to your updates.
Wayne

andrew???

BA.

06-03-2008, 03:43 PM

^^^....I think he was referencing Andrews thread by mistake, Andrew has the GTO Version 2.0 thread.

Code Red

06-08-2008, 05:06 PM

My brother and I got some work done on the GTO today and found of course more rust spots but they dont look to bad

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Code Red

06-08-2008, 05:07 PM

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gearheads78

06-10-2008, 08:04 PM

looking good

I really like the valve covers

Code Red

06-16-2008, 02:35 PM

well some slight bad news

I got a call saturday morning from a buddy who visits the shop frequently and they found a crack on one of the heads after cleaning them up. Crack is on the exterior but the thermostat hole I havent seen it yet but my brother and dad went to check it out. might be fixable but might be looking for another set of heads.

If I buy heads i'm not going real pricey i wouldn't mind finding just a nice decent set to get me buy for a couple years till I decide to go for some nicer heads $1,500-$2,000 is not in my budget for heads

Code Red

06-16-2008, 02:52 PM

did some more sanding got rid of most of the old seam sealer around the wiper motor area
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also gave the brake booster a shot of paint

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Code Red

06-17-2008, 04:38 AM

Head Pics my brother took these and sent them to me

they look pretty good except for the crack

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You can see the crack in these pics

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Code Red

06-17-2008, 05:59 AM

well my brother talked to a friend of his who's family is in the race shop business and said head is toast I'm going to stop by the shop where the engine is at to talk to them about options

jackfrost

06-17-2008, 09:27 AM

that's too bad. but core cast iron heads shouldn't be too expensive.

unless these are some rare casting?

Code Red

06-17-2008, 12:20 PM

well my mom and I went up to the shop and after some discussion decided to bite the bullet and go with the edlebrock rpm 72cc heads man my wallet is going to feel so empty after all of this

Code Red

06-20-2008, 07:50 PM

Stopped by the shop and there was a mess up with the order they only got one in but the other will be in monday

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Motown 454

06-20-2008, 08:36 PM

Sweet !!
WAyne

BossaNova

06-21-2008, 04:34 AM

Wow. I can't believe those pictures got thru the firewall here at work.

Code Red

06-26-2008, 12:39 PM

They rolled the block into their assembly room today

block should be painted by saturday and assembly should start on monday, so if all goes well engine should be home next weekend

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Code Red

06-30-2008, 12:17 PM

well its blue and starting to get assembled

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GHOSTDANCER

06-30-2008, 02:04 PM

Looking good :kewlpics:

Roadbuster

06-30-2008, 10:43 PM

Code Red

07-01-2008, 02:42 AM

That engine is going to look really nice! Pontiac blue on the bottom and all aluminum on top. :yum: In addition you are going to loose about a 100 pounds off the front end, give or take a few pounds.

What compression are you running?

Great progress on the firewall! That will set off the engine compartment with it all smooth. Are you going to paint it the same color as the body?

Jon

think the engine shop said 10:1 on the compression due to the heads

well we are thinking gloss black for now may change once we actually paint the car but we will see

Code Red

07-08-2008, 04:18 AM

almost there

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/07/Photo0326-1.jpg

jackfrost

07-08-2008, 05:56 AM

sweet... i'm jealous. i wish my project was progressing this quickly. :)

Code Red

07-08-2008, 07:02 AM

sweet... i'm jealous. i wish my project was progressing this quickly. :)

dont know about quickly lol

engine bay is at a halt till I get the garage finished and reorganized

Motown 454

07-08-2008, 07:37 AM

Looks good !
Wayne

Roadrage David

07-09-2008, 12:20 PM

What kind of cam are you useing??? XE series!!!!

Code Red

07-09-2008, 05:59 PM

What kind of cam are you useing??? XE series!!!!

A Melling Pontiac Ram Air III cam

Code Red

07-10-2008, 01:29 PM

Major Update

well some bad news

1. Crack pulley is cracked and has to be replaced (there is supposed to be a ring in which the bolts are tighten down on but it was missing so the previous person did in on the pulley and cracked it) upgrading to billet

2. Valley Pan rusted up a bit and has holes will be ordering a new one

http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/images/MISC/valleyPan.JPG

3. Flywheel has cracks might be ok to use for now but will start a search

4. My old Edlebrock PB4 intake WILL NOT FIT the new Edlebrock Performer RPM heads grr so ordered a new Preformer RPM Intake

Pics

Me with the engine

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Code Red

07-11-2008, 06:57 AM

what no new comments? comeon guys

gto406

07-11-2008, 08:08 AM

Heads look sweet CodeRed. I think you will find the Performer RPM a better manifold. You want to be able to rev that Poncho closer to 5800-6000. The RPM will work way better than the P4B in that range.
The P4B is pretty much a lower-end (poorer cousin) to the Perfomer. Once you see the new one, you will be glad you went that route. I am going to either run my other (race) engine with the Performer RPM (altogether) on my '72, or replace the current P4B on the cars original motor with a new Performer RPM.

Looking good!
Brian
'72 GTO.

andrewb70

07-11-2008, 04:40 PM

I have a Performer that I will sell cheap. PM me if you're interested.

Andrew

Code Red

07-11-2008, 05:02 PM

I have a Performer that I will sell cheap. PM me if you're interested.

Andrew

thanks but the shop just got it today

Roadbuster

07-11-2008, 07:09 PM

:drool:

That is one sweet looking motor!

Jon

Code Red

07-11-2008, 07:35 PM

:drool:

That is one sweet looking motor!

Jon

thanks

Roadbuster

07-12-2008, 10:06 AM

With those E heads do you need to use RAIV headers?
:dunno:
I thought that is what was required. The thing that puzzles me is the flat bottom of the port and how does that transition to the round header. That is the first shot I have seen of the E head exhaust ports.

Jon

venturabeachpup

07-13-2008, 02:21 PM

The rally wheels sure make a big difference! Good job! Awesome car. Bad to the bone motor!

gearbanger

07-13-2008, 04:19 PM

You do have to use RAIV (round port) headers with the e-heads. The flat bottom on the ports is like that because it makes the exhaust port flow better. It also creates a sort vortex area just outside the exhaust port that help prevent reversion of exhaust gases that can pollute the intake charge. An old trick for ford 302 boss and 351 C engines was to install port plates in between the heads and headers to create this "D" shape. They say it helped alot on those engines too.

Code Red

07-13-2008, 05:48 PM

yup have to use round port

Since I was in Akron this weekend I stopped at Summit Racing and picked up a set of Doug's headers

BaddestBuick

07-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Hey that engine is coming along nice! are you going to dyno it?

Code Red

07-13-2008, 06:40 PM

Hey that engine is coming along nice! are you going to dyno it?

eventually

Code Red

07-14-2008, 02:16 PM

mmmm headers Doug's Headers to be exact. Picked them up at Summit Racing while I was up there this past weekend

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1968CamaroSS_Sam

07-14-2008, 03:41 PM

Nice looking work on the engine.

jackfrost

07-15-2008, 08:59 AM

sweeeeet :bananna2:

Roadbuster

07-15-2008, 09:17 PM

Motown 454

07-16-2008, 09:18 AM

Thats interesting on the Boss motors ,I didn't know that. Engine looks good.
Wayne

Code Red

07-16-2008, 12:57 PM

brought the headers by the shop for a test fit and also checked out the new intake manifold

still waiting on the valley pan and crank pulley

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old water pump piece

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you can see the crack in the pulley

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/07/Photo0351-1.jpg

valley pan speaks for itself

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455 the shop is building for another customer

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Code Red

07-19-2008, 08:06 AM

stopped in to check on my brothers 305 block the shop is cleanign up for him and I decided to bring one of my new valve covers in to see how it looks

lets just say I huge a huge boner after seeing it hehe

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/07/Photo0356-1.jpg

also the shops Roadrunner with a new Super Charged Hemi they fabbed up their own manifold for the supercharger to sit on.

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Code Red

07-22-2008, 12:40 PM

grrr

called butler performance yesterday and they are still waiting on the shipment of valley pans to come in

I'm really wanting to bring this engine home

gearbanger

07-22-2008, 04:23 PM

Code Red

07-22-2008, 05:45 PM

On that water pump, you should put the plate against the pump and check the clearance between the impellar and the plate at the center hole. The clearance should be minimized in order to keep the efficiency of the impellar. Alot of times it is 1/8" or more with aftermarket parts and that can be the root of hot running problems with pontiacs. I just wanted to let you know while you have it apart to check it. You may have already known this.

thanks I noticed that int he pontiac engine building book today actually but the shop has already assembled the water pump we will see what happens plus I want to switch housings down the road tot he butler performance one like on the 455 I pictured there

gearbanger

07-23-2008, 04:21 AM

You should be okay, but if you have hot running problems that is the first place to look. You should check out KREpower.com and look at the timing cover they sell. It looks pretty cool.

Code Red

07-23-2008, 12:36 PM

You should be okay, but if you have hot running problems that is the first place to look. You should check out KREpower.com and look at the timing cover they sell. It looks pretty cool.

looks good

Code Red

07-25-2008, 06:17 AM

looks like I'll be waiting yet another week for the valley pan, butler performance said the manufacturer should be shipping 175 pans to them today which means they will be in on next friday

Code Red

08-08-2008, 06:51 PM

"FINALLY" got my valley pan and crank pulley I can't blame butler they were waiting on the manufacturer to ship the valley pans

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_5142-1.jpg
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dropping them off tomorrow shop said it will be a couple days due to other engines taking mine it is place while waiting

guess good thing we werent planning to take the GTO to woodward this year

Code Red

08-15-2008, 08:06 PM

engine is home ;-)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_5167-1.jpg
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Code Red

08-16-2008, 12:32 PM

no comments?

SaturnVUEguy

08-16-2008, 01:27 PM

Wow, that is one sharp looking engine!

I just now saw the updates, don't yell at me for waiting with the comment

Code Red

08-16-2008, 03:11 PM

Wow, that is one sharp looking engine!

I just now saw the updates, don't yell at me for waiting with the comment

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!

just kidding

gearheads78

08-16-2008, 08:23 PM

Looks good now get it dropped in there.

Roadbuster

08-16-2008, 09:58 PM

Man that motor looks nice! :drool: I like the aluminum valve covers, they nicely match the heads and intake. Leaving the factory chrome one on there really shows the difference!

Jon

Code Red

08-17-2008, 05:18 AM

i'm wondering if I can get a cast aluminum air cleaner pan to match

BossaNova

08-17-2008, 05:22 AM

no comments?

Here's one. Get off the computer & get to wrenchin'! :)

Code Red

08-17-2008, 06:05 AM

Here's one. Get off the computer & get to wrenchin'! :)

lol I would but still at woodward about to get packed up and head home

Roadbuster

08-17-2008, 02:19 PM

i'm wondering if I can get a cast aluminum air cleaner pan to match

That would set if off! I think Edelbrock has some in their nascar line that are black - they might have them in a natural brushed finish too.

Jon

Code Red

08-23-2008, 01:58 PM

Well A buddy came over yesterday and welded up my holes for me on the firewall.

today I went out and ground the welds down and applied a coat of duraglas giving it some time to cure before I go back out and grind it down for a coat of rage

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Smock67

08-23-2008, 03:07 PM

looking real good man. Your engine looks stunning.

Code Red

08-24-2008, 12:09 PM

Middle part of the firewall is pretty much where I want it still need to feather out some other areas and give it a paint job for now

but not sure if I should go Satin black or gloss black if I go gloss I'm sure most of the bodywork will show

so the before

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0159-1.jpg

After

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0167-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0168-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0169-1.jpg

couple more shots of the motor

I really need a new air cleaner setup any suggestions? any cast aluminum ones out there to match the rest of the motor?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0170-1.jpg
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Motown 454

08-24-2008, 12:16 PM

How about the brushed aluminum air cleaner DSE has. It would look good on there. The engine looks great.

bwhinnen

08-24-2008, 01:27 PM

Engine looks great! Agree on the need for a brushed ally air cleaner though, the stainless / chrome one looks so out of place. Going to do all the dress bits in a brushed look now in the engine bay?

Code Red

08-24-2008, 01:29 PM

Engine looks great! Agree on the need for a brushed ally air cleaner though, the stainless / chrome one looks so out of place. Going to do all the dress bits in a brushed look now in the engine bay?

eventually I plan to swap all the pulleys for polished billet ones just money is a little scarse at the moment

jackfrost

08-25-2008, 09:16 AM

http://www.raimairbox.com :naughty:

firewall looks awesome. I'll be doing that process as well, soon.

Code Red

08-25-2008, 09:46 AM

I ordered some Hirsh chassis black for the firewall I read some good stuff about it on performanceyears

SaturnVUEguy

08-25-2008, 12:00 PM

jackfrost, that url doesn't work, did you mean www.ramairbox.com ?

Code Red, that firewall looks pretty damn nice now, look forward to seeing some satin black on there

Code Red

08-25-2008, 12:33 PM

not a fan of the dryer tube look if I did ram air I'd use a factory setup with the hood

PlumFloored

08-25-2008, 07:29 PM

Thank you for the new wheels, SEND those three spokes back to 1992!

rohrt

08-26-2008, 04:57 AM

The build looks awsome. The pictures are blocked at work so I have to look at these at home. Are you or have you dyno the engine? I have never had any luck with the edelbrock carbs is why I ask.

SPECWARSQUID

08-26-2008, 05:49 AM

I have never had any luck with the edelbrock carbs is why I ask.

The edlebrock carb he's using is a loaner from a previous project that never came about. It was used to replace the engine's tired Quadrajet and provided years of faithful, dead-nuts reliable service in the engine's previous form. I believe he has plans to replace it in time.

Regarding the air cleaner Chris:

Here's an idea. Get an Air Clearner like this from Billet Specialties and I'll take it to work and media blast it to match your valve covers. Even better you could get an extra GTO decal to use as a reverse stencil. When done peal it off and you have a cast-look aluminum lid with the polish GTO logo.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/13515829-1.jpg
One of these.

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Shay
____________
Semper Fortis

Code Red

08-31-2008, 07:29 AM

painted the firewall last night

its a semi gloss I'm not real happy with it but it will do for now and looks better than it did when I pulled the engine

Eventaully the engine will come back out and the body off the frame and then at that point I'll coat the frame with POR 15 and paint the engine bay satin black

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/08/IMG_0189-1.jpg

Code Red

08-31-2008, 05:52 PM

getting ready to put the engine in tomorrow

sanded and painted the drive shaft

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Code Red

09-20-2008, 04:33 PM

drivetrain goes in tomorrow picked up a new Hayes Billet steel flywheel last weekend while at the summit truckfest

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bonecrrusher

09-21-2008, 06:03 PM

You might want to clean up that trans, and spray some aluminum engine paint on it. Get some high temp primer and paint it, should look great! For 10 bucks, you cant go wrong.

-Craig-

Code Red

09-21-2008, 06:13 PM

got my jegs starter that weve had for years finally mounted and lined up right.

did a test fit of the engine first without the trans to check for clearance of the starter so I didn't have to put it on from under the car.

tried to put the engine and trans in the car and then remembered the headers lol well ran into a bit of a snag but will probably wait till next weekend to finish up getting everything lined up and headers put in.

My 4 yr old niece

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Starter

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Teaser with just the engine no trans and no headers in in the car.

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jackfrost

09-22-2008, 10:25 AM

that's gonna be nice when you get it all back together. probably run nice, too. :drive1:

Code Red

09-22-2008, 01:40 PM

that's gonna be nice when you get it all back together. probably run nice, too. :drive1:

the fun part will be getting buying all the little stuff and reassembling the accessories for the engine

still need to get the pertronics setup for the distributor, spark plugs, plug wires, thermostat, etc.....

but budget just got hit again, I think I stripped up my passenger coil over on my colorado today on a pothole. around $600 shipped for the front set but a friend at stylin trucks said he might try and get me his discount

gto406

09-24-2008, 07:03 AM

Looking great Code-Red. The 'Poncho' valve covers look really sweet!

Cheers,
Brian.

Code Red

09-24-2008, 04:14 PM

Looking great Code-Red. The 'Poncho' valve covers look really sweet!

Cheers,
Brian.

thank ya

I talked to the guys at the engine shop today about my headers hitting my porportioning valave and they said yup every pontiac does that and it has to be moved up lol

Roadbuster

09-24-2008, 09:22 PM

thank ya

I talked to the guys at the engine shop today about my headers hitting my porportioning valave and they said yup every pontiac does that and it has to be moved up lol

My prop valve was floating above the frame to clear my headers when I got the car. I fabbed up a bracket to mount it to the frame behind the inner fender, using two existing holes.

I think if I have to do it again I will put it under the toe-board.

Jon

gto406

09-26-2008, 12:23 PM

Yup, had the same problem. If you 'leave it as is' movement of the motor will cause the header to rub against the valve and you will work a hole into the side of your headers. Not to mention the heat sink it creates for your valve being so close (the stock exhaust I believe tucks in a bit tighter to the trans).

I had to move my p-valve to another location (I swapped out a Bird front-disc/rear-drum p-valve and mounted it under my Master-Cyl).

Cheers,
Brian
'72 GTO.

Code Red

10-05-2008, 07:59 AM

finally bolted the headers and motor woo hoo

now I just need to start assembling the clutch parts, all the dam accessories, plugs, wires, distributor, and a bunch of other things before I get the body panels back on and then I can take it up to the shop for its first startup

should I wait to fit up the exhaust and do the first startup on open headers? lol

yes exhaust will be getting replaced eventually with bigger tubbing

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Damn brake proportioning valve was in the way of the driver side header so just moved it up and out of the way for now I'll figure out later how I mount to mount it

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jackfrost

10-06-2008, 06:11 AM

before I get the body panels back on and then I can take it up to the shop for its first startup
i wouldn't be able to wait... :seizure:

looks awesome so far.

Roadbuster

10-06-2008, 08:35 AM

Looking good! Those headers look like they tuck up nice and tight to the body! Any chance you can get a shot from the front to see how they are in relation to the crossmember?

Jon

Code Red

10-06-2008, 03:27 PM

Looking good! Those headers look like they tuck up nice and tight to the body! Any chance you can get a shot from the front to see how they are in relation to the crossmember?

Jon

is this what you want?

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Roadbuster

10-06-2008, 06:50 PM

Not quite. I was looking to see how low the headers hand below the crossmember. On my car the headers are the lowest point in the car.

I was looking for a view like this for comparison:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/CIMG1964-1.jpg

Thanks

Jon

Code Red

10-07-2008, 01:14 AM

got ya I'll get a pic when I get home from work today

rgarza9311

10-07-2008, 03:58 AM

Car looks nice! what do you plan on doing with the front suspension, just curious?

Code Red

10-07-2008, 12:08 PM

Car looks nice! what do you plan on doing with the front suspension, just curious?

I've already upgraded to a full hotchkis suspension, springs, sway bars, trailing arms and tie rods.

eventually I'll swap out the control arms for something better

Code Red

10-07-2008, 02:35 PM

hows this my friend

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Z06killinSBF

10-07-2008, 05:38 PM

Looking good. Cant wait to see it run.

Roadbuster

10-07-2008, 06:37 PM

hows this my friend

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/IMG_0531-1.jpg
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Perfect! Thank you!

I can see that you gain at least an inch of ground clearance with those headers vs. the old ones I have. Those are definitely going on my wish list!

Jon

Code Red

10-08-2008, 12:04 PM

welcome

rgarza9311

10-08-2008, 08:25 PM

Thanks Red, car looks great. Just gettin started on my 68. Gettin some great ideas from this website. Keep up the good work.

Code Red

10-09-2008, 02:22 AM

Thanks Red, car looks great. Just gettin started on my 68. Gettin some great ideas from this website. Keep up the good work.

no problem maybe by saturday I'll have the transmission cross member back in and get the drive shaft in. I think I need to scrapped all the gunk off the cross member though first lol 40 years of oil dirt and who knows what else

but today need to work on my colorado to get it back on the road finally got my replacement nuts for my coilovers yesterday lol

Mr.VENGEANCE

10-09-2008, 04:04 PM

alright!

lookin pretty serious now..

70LS1NOVA

10-09-2008, 06:22 PM

OK, so I'll ask, and not to be a ****, but, you painted the driveshaft, the firewall, and everything else...why didn't you paint the frame?

Code Red

10-09-2008, 06:31 PM

OK, so I'll ask, and not to be a ****, but, you painted the driveshaft, the firewall, and everything else...why didn't you paint the frame?

I painted part of it ;-)

but mainly due to time

the car will be getting blow apart in a few years once I move and have room to pull the frame and do the frame right and a few other things

right now everything is very limited with my budget which got shot on the engine rebuild was planning to have the door reskinned this winter but dont know now

Code Red

10-30-2008, 02:49 PM

Got my transmission crossmember and mounts back from the powdercoater

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Marauder

12-21-2008, 06:24 PM

Nice write up, did you go on a break?!

icebird84

12-21-2008, 07:11 PM

good looking project you have, keep up the good work

4spdharry

01-13-2009, 01:13 PM

fire that engine up yet?

Code Red

03-25-2009, 04:26 AM

sorry guys I know its been awhile, been busy with moving and renovating my house.

I finally ordered some crossmember bushings and a transmission crossmember bought and got the cross member bolted in. Also have a whole set of body mounts and bolts I need to put in and just got this in yesterday

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1971CHEVELLE

03-25-2009, 05:10 AM

Looking good

Code Red

03-28-2009, 02:42 PM

well turns out I bought the wrong HEI cap (**** **** ****) lol oh well i'll reorder the RIGHT one lol

I went ahead and mounted the new coresupport and one of the inner fenders on, looks more like a car now ;-) well kinda sorta

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jackfrost

03-30-2009, 09:31 AM

that motor looks great... you get to firing it up yet?

LSX1STGEN

03-30-2009, 09:35 AM

Wow - great looking Poncho. I always love those Valve Covers!!!

Code Red

03-30-2009, 12:23 PM

that motor looks great... you get to firing it up yet?

lol

no

won't fire it up till the car is all back together and then taken up to kammers

Code Red

05-04-2009, 06:56 PM

should be ready to go soon ;-)

just need to replace some fuel lines radiator hoses. hook up the harness and assemble the throttle linkage ;-)

Code Red

05-31-2009, 04:33 PM

small update

rolled the car out of the garage and dusted it off a bit and cleaning the garage floor a bit, also started stripping the heater core/blower cover but the stuff i was using sucked, also put the car back in the garage and put it up in the car so I can work on the exhaust this week

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Code Red

06-09-2009, 03:57 AM

Tiger under the hood?

how about a Siberian Husky under the car lol

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Took some parts over to a friends work to sandblast them

Abra

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Cadabra

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going to touch up a few spots today after work and start painting them.

HectorM52

06-09-2009, 09:14 AM

Did you choose not to do the fan motor or was there another issue?

What kind of paint you gonna use?

gto406

06-09-2009, 09:33 AM

Looking good code-red,

Make sure to give your helper some treats, he is keeping guard on that goat of yours 8^)

KlasSic68

06-10-2009, 08:50 AM

Coming along nicely. Good to see a GTO getting some love.

Code Red

06-13-2009, 03:27 PM

some work

chopped the top off of the core support (its for a 70 and the 68s dont need the top piece

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fitting the exhaust but have some issues with the drivers side hitting the crossmember

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Roadbuster

06-14-2009, 03:27 PM

Code Red,

What size exhaust are you running?

Jon

Edit:

On my 81 el camino I had to do a little loop down to clear the crossmember.
Jon

Code Red

06-14-2009, 07:05 PM

Code Red,

What size exhaust are you running?

Jon

Edit:

On my 81 el camino I had to do a little loop down to clear the crossmember.
Jon

2 after the collectors

yes I know a bit small when I change the rest of the exhaust out it'll be bigger

Code Red

06-27-2009, 05:40 PM

well got a bit of work done today

we worked on getting the clutch zbar all hooked up which is ghetto rigged at the moment waiting on some new parts to come in and need a return spring which I have to order monday grr.

mounted the inner fenders mounted the fan shroud, and did a test fitment with the passenger fender OMG almost a car again course i need to address some issues with the fender since it has had body work apparently before and I need to bend the fender lip to clear the inner fender, no biggie.

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Motown 454

06-27-2009, 07:38 PM

Looking Good

Code Red

07-01-2009, 11:58 AM

if several things go well tomorrow and then friday morning expect a nice sounding video friday evening MU HAHAHAHA

Motown 454

07-01-2009, 12:54 PM

I'll be watching for it.

Code Red

07-02-2009, 05:15 PM

Tightened up the exhaust fixed the clutch pedal linkage, picked up a dolly today, and put the front bumper on ;-)

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Code Red

07-03-2009, 08:35 AM

just dropped off the GTO at the shop to get he exhaust welded up, a transmission plug replaced, and to get the engine fired up for the first time

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