Metal bonding

[TnBlkC230WZ]

I've got a few small rust spots to repair and I don't have a welder. Has anyone one used the new adhesives for body repair? What should I use and where can I get it? I have the lower right cowl, part of the right rocker and a section of the front passenger floor to fix on a 71 Nova.

[MrQuick]

I would cut out the rusty metal in the area then media blast it and replace the section with new metal. They are available IIRC.

Most body shop supply stores should carry bonding material.

[NOT A TA]

I have used 3M adhesive for bonding metal and it worked awesome. It comes as a 2 part epoxy used in a special double barrel caulking type gun. Should be able to purchase it at a local parts supplier that deals auto body paints etc. See the thread about vinyl roof rusted areas from about a week ago.

[danbob67]

I have used 3M adhesive for bonding metal and it worked awesome. It comes as a 2 part epoxy used in a special double barrel caulking type gun. Should be able to purchase it at a local parts supplier that deals auto body paints etc. See the thread about vinyl roof rusted areas from about a week ago.

that 3m adhesive is 8115 panel bonding adhesive and it it definatly some good stuff I use it alot but the 3m gun to use it is kinda pricey some other type of gun might be available.

[dhutton]

You can buy a lower cost gun for the 3M 8115 adhesive at autobodytoolmart.com. You can also buy the adhesive there for considerably less than I could buy it at my local supplier. I used the 8115 with very good results.

Don

[TnBlkC230WZ]

Thanks for all the info. It'll probably be better than the little bit of welding that I need.

[hotrdblder]

fusor makes great products as well, theres ia bout 35-40 for one cartridge, its all i use when i need adhesives

[danbob67]

fusor makes great products as well, theres ia bout 35-40 for one cartridge, its all i use when i need adhesives

the number for the fusor metal bond is 112b for the slower drying stuff it works good as well and the gun is cheaper :headbang: I bought 2 tubes and they gave me the gun for free your local auto paint store might do the same?

[TnBlkC230WZ]

the number for the fusor metal bond is 112b for the slower drying stuff it works good as well and the gun is cheaper :headbang: I bought 2 tubes and they gave me the gun for free your local auto paint store might do the same?

Is there a place on-line to get it?

[hotrdblder]

lord makes fusor try googling it

[hotrdblder]

also try ebay once you figure out which adhesive you want.
http://www.refinishmaterials.com/ct_catalog.htm
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lord.com%2F&ei=qeYbR_iEH6SGerPnoMwH&usg=AFQjCNEG0K8AeOnhNmbk11RgZL4ZC1FfrQ&sig2=xPsy6j4Vc7S_uOgCuOV2_w

[danbob67]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lord-Fusor-Metal-Panel-Bonding-Adhesive-Slow-112B_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63702QQihZ009QQite mZ190137907191QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

there is some on ebay they got the slow and fast stuff 40 bucks

[newbaa]

FUSOR ftw! at school we used some of that stuff to bond some metal pieces just for fun/testing and the metal started to rip apart before the fusor came apart!

[TnBlkC230WZ]

FUSOR ftw! at school we used some of that stuff to bond some metal pieces just for fun/testing and the metal started to rip apart before the fusor came apart!

That's what I'm looking for.

[muthstryker]

im confused on this stuff? so if you replace something you dont have to weld?? wouldnt welding be a better idea??

[MrQuick]

lots of body shops like to use it on large panels to avoid warpage. its new-ish technology that will if it hasn't already take the place of welding.

[muthstryker]

id have to watch someone do it to see it work, dont see how they fix the gaps between the new panel and old panel that would other wise be welded.. unless they use a magnet type thing to hold the new peice in place and then bond the 2 peices to gether.

[hotrdblder]

its mainly for use on pinch weld semas and hidden seams, not for 80% 1/4 panels etc as the cut line will ghost line over time.also when installing panels you use self tapers or clekos to hold panel, then spot weld holes or fill with same adehsive.
i use it alot on newer stuff, i also use it on the drip rail area when doing 1st gen roofs, works so well and is stronger then plug welds, i also use it for rear window filler paanels etc, as well as the tailpanel to 1/4 seam. it has its use's but its not an endall.

[TnBlkC230WZ]

Yes, I have smaller sections of the rocker and lower cowl panels. I do plan on using it on a section of the floor as well. From what I'm reading, the stuff has a higher shear strengh than welds and even the metal it self in some cases. It also has anti-corrosion properties that should also make it superior to welding. My local Color Match has it for $41.