Anyone here used All-Metal Premium Aluminum Filler?

[rocketrod]

Has anyone here used this stuff? I am getting ready to shoot my firewall with DP90 and K36 primer. I am wondering if I can apply All-Metal on top of the DP90/K36 primer, or should it only be applied to bare metal?

http://www.amazon.com/ALL-METAL-Prem.../dp/B00063X684 (http://www.amazon.com/ALL-METAL-Premium-Aluminum-Filled-Filler/dp/B00063X684)

Thanks in advance

[RatMalibu]

you should use it on bare metal...and be sure to rough it in before it fully hardens...its some hard stuff when its done curing out

[ProdigyCustoms]

Used it all the time, but I have a new favorite called Carbo fill made by SEM. Has carbon fiber in it, and does not shrink at all. All metal is still killer stuff, I am just using the carbo fill right now

[MuscleRodz]

Love the stuff. Used it on the firewall on my '68 Camaro and the quarter to roof seams.

Mike

[rocketrod]

Thanks for the replies. I couldn't take it and started applying some All-Metal last night, needless to say it didn't go well :banghead:. I mixed the product per the directions :here!: (actully added a little more hardener than required ), then applied it, but the material never hardened. To make a long story short I had bought the product and hardener about 10 months ago and hardner went bad during that time :pat: .
I got some new hardner and did a test batch in the store and everyrhing turned out good. Hopefully things will go better next time...

[Apogee]

I'm using All-Metal on a Nova project right now and while it cures nice and hard, you do need to use a bit more hardener than recommended when the temperatures drop. The several times I've bought it lately, idiots behind the counter at the supply houses have tried to give me cream hardener...which won't work. You need to use MEKP (Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone-Peroxide), the same stuff used for fiberglass.

[aggressive male]

I thought you could only use that stuff on aluminum? Isn't it going to be trouble down the road if you use it on steel?

[Gordz32]

You can use it on any metal. It actually contains alot less aluminum then u think. And yes use more hardener then directed to. I like it and use it.

[BRIAN]

Ask your PPG guy about NCP it is etch and build primer in one. DP is not what it used to be as it is now DPLF? Lead free? You are using to expensive products that are overlapping in their use.

If you are not experienced with the All-Metal products you will be causing more problems then good as they can be tricky to read if there is a right mix. Use a either a fiberglass (not long hair) or good regular plastic and you will be fine. Guys use All Metal thinking the metal in the name actually means they are somehow making a better metal repair. It is silver but really who knows what is in there??

[Apogee]

...If you are not experienced with the All-Metal products you will be causing more problems then good as they can be tricky to read if there is a right mix. Use a either a fiberglass (not long hair) or good regular plastic and you will be fine. Guys use All Metal thinking the metal in the name actually means they are somehow making a better metal repair. It is silver but really who knows what is in there??

Just read the MSDS...it tells you exactly what's in it. Essentially it's a fiberglass resin with the majority of the filler being talc (aka Bondo's main ingredient) and some aluminum powder thrown in to make it silver. It is not "all metal" as the name implies, but that doesn't mean that it's not good for certain uses. Personally, if I were going to do another car with as much body work as my current project, I would use something that blocks easier to speed things up.