"Payback" is officially underway!

[Vegas69]

Well I am excited to say that my project is off to the races! Prodigy Customs is building me a bad ass roller with all the good stuff. Frank and his crew are kicking some serious ass on my car!

I bought an all original 307 car. You should of seen the ripping I got when I parted some of this car out on camaros.net. I had one guy call me and beg me not to do it. Sorry man.

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[Vegas69]

Frank has had this car for a short period of time!
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[Vegas69]

Engine Dyno
593 Horsepower at 6000 Rpm
587 Foot pounds at 3700 Rpm
489 Gen VI Hydraulic Roller
Dart Pro 1 heads
JE Pistons
Air Gap
850 holley
MSD pro billet distributor
March Ultra Drive
I almost have the engine completely dressed and will be posting pictures soon!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/Payback1969/?action=view&current=1eda007a.flv)

[kmcanally]

Thats bad azz!

[curly]

Looks like you had a good car to start a project with. Keep us posted!

[BA.]

It does look decent in that original picture but I don't think it's necessarily a "loss" for the Camaro world. I mean, c'mon, it's a green 307!! :)

+1 for Pro-Touring!! You're still saving a classic car! Can't wait to see the finished project, sounds awesome.

[dropit69]

ohh i remember them ripping into you over there..i backed ya up and told them it was your car do what you want to it..lol..they didnt like that wait till i do the same to my convert even thought it wasnt # im sure they wont like it pt'd..looks like your off to a fine start and im sure Frank will hook ya up ..he da man!!!

[Vegas69]

Hey Darrin I remember you now. It was either guys wanted me to sell it or cut it up. That was exactly my point. Somebody was going to chop it up anyway being a 307 car so why not me:naughty: This car is getting a first class restoration. With just a few mods :angel:

[dropit69]

cool..believe it or not i actually like that frost green ..but im sure your not soing with that as color choice are you??

[Vegas69]

My project is progressing nicely. The boys at Prodigy Customs have all the rough sheetmetal work done, mini tubs are in, and the subframe connectors are installed. One minor hiccup is my 19x13 rims are blowing out the sidewall so they don't fit. The wheels need narrowed 1 inch to suck in the sidewall. She's going into the paint booth for epoxy primer today.
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[ponjohn]

What are the spot welds for on the DS of the firewall?

[ProdigyCustoms]

Well, were at 20 days now. After a long day of polishing metal and some touch up sandblasting, Payback is now locked in DP90 Epoxy and ready for finish bodywork. looks good in black already!

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[NRV051]

looking good there mate. Keep it up.

[Smock67]

damn thats pimpin

[Vegas69]

The headers showed up and Lemons makes some killer headers. Here is my beast:
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[Vegas69]

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[skatinjay27]

motor looks real good todd. and those header look like so top quality stuff the weld look great.

[StRacerDuke]

Gratuitous Boob shot! :woot:



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[Wright On]

nice progress, nothing but jealousy here on the project. keep the pictures coming

[Vegas69]

Thanks guys. I haven't updated my build for a while. Frank is hoping to have my car done in early December. I am making sure I have my engine ready to stab so that is all done. Today I spent about an hour on my oil breather system and my starter shield. I decided I didn't want to run valve cover breathers due to the mess that would eventually compromise my headers and so on.
I went ahead and bought some new valve covers with no holes so I could modify them. I am going to run a -12AN breather system with canister. Today I went ahead and found the best place for my breather and cut the hole, filed it smooth, and bolted it on. I was going to reduce it to -10 AN but Frank talked me into 12 so jegs is going to have to exchange a few things.
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[Vegas69]

I am running a GM performance parts mini starter. Those killer headers come with a compromise. The header and starter have to go on together. I hope to do it only once so I am taking every step to protect that little sucker. I moved the starter as close to the block as possible and of course the shield hits the block. I ground it down so it does not touch the block. I don't want any noise. I will also run my starter wiring and probably atleast one spark plug wire through the shield for extra protection.
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[Code Red]

please tell me your going to grind down those welds on the firewall?

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[Vegas69]

Of course:cheers:

[Flash68]

Looking great. Really looking forward to seeing it done!

[ProdigyCustoms]

please tell me your going to grind down those welds on the firewall?

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What? We can't paint over those? It's all smooth now, I will post up some updates tomorrow.

[strangler]

For $15 this may be of help to you

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D810011&N=700+115&autoview=sku


Wire it now, plug it in later.

[Benoit23]

What color are you going with?

[Vegas69]

Good call on that wiring harness. The car will be black.

[Vegas69]

Here is the smoothed firewall. Looks killer! I hope it doesn't rain. :screwy: Fenders ready for shiny stuff. Next updated should be really pretty!
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[69camarokid]

that looks sexy... i started off with a 307 powered 69 also....

i only have an lt1 now, so i think your 489 wins hahaha

[Vegas69]

I definitely creamed my pants when I opened up this email! Is there any color that looks better than black? Man it's looking sick. Frank said they plan to color sand it still and then clear coat. This year is getting off on the right foot!!!!

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[69camarokid]

ohhhh..... damn! that looks good!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Happy New Year Todd

[merriman44]

oh man... Sex on wheels.

[Vegas69]

Highly recommend Ben over at Hermance design >>> Have 6 rendering but think this one works the best. I waited until clear coat to have it done do to difficulty with trim, grills, mirrors, bumpers etc. Now I just have to bribe Frank into finishing my car.
Money well spent I think.
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[7TSS]

Wow looks like everything is coming along nicely. Rendering is a winner!

How long before it should be headed back home? Keep the updates coming.

[jy211]

Looking great...right choice on color too! :cool:

[Vegas69]

Thanks guys......it will be soon. They are just waiting for the right day to lay down the final dusting of black and clear. Then it shouldn't be long. I am hoping to have it here no later than Feb 28th. Like to get to enjoy her a little before 4 months of 100 plus kicks in. Then it will be night rides only.

[formula98]

Great progress! Very nice job on the rendering and I agree that Ben does outstanding work! Frank great job! I can't wait to see the pics of it after the clear.....

[Motown 454]

Awsome like everything else that comes out of Prodigy . will be a killer set up when your finnished.
Wayne

[TBART70]

How much were those headers?

Damn sweet ride, Frank does nice work!

[Vegas69]

Headers were $1500 approximately. Well worth the bread. This thread is about to get really interesting.:hammer:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Tomorrow is the day!!!!!! Andrew just ordered the Clear and base, $$$$$$$$$$$$ But nothing but the best for you! I should make it in back by 3 PM, and it should be sitting there waiting for me.

[Vegas69]

I thought the day would never come:cool: I can hardly sleep at night. The thought of pissing off my neighbors with open headers at 10Pm or blowing the doors off one of those kids with the fart can makes me toss and turn. haha

[Lenie]

The headers showed up and Lemons makes some killer headers. Here is my beast:
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:smoke: :smoke: :6gears:

[formula98]

Really nice work! I love the headers......

[69ratfed]

You have picked the right color. It's a pain to keep clean but well worth the trouble. What type of air cleaner are you using?

[Vegas69]

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Final Base and Clear coat. Wet sanding and buffing this week. Looks really good!
Running a proform air cleaner but had to buy seperate K+N.

[Vegas69]

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[70LS1NOVA]

What are the plans for the wiper motor? I notice you filled the hole on the firewall...

[Vegas69]

No plans.....maybe a towel and detailer in the trunk haha

[Denvervet]

What did you decide regarding a roll cage or not. I am building a similar setup and uncertain if a cage is needed for stability or safety? BTW so far that car looks..... sick nasty..to use my teenagers lingo.

[Vegas69]

It's basically getting a DSE rollbar but fabricated by the boys at Prodigy. Will have removable cross bar as well. I thought it would help the rigidity of the car and give me the option to run race belts.

[Yelcamino]

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Did you get these fittings from Jegs? What are the part numbers? I was going to have bungs welded on my valve covers but if I go this route I can skip the welding! Thanks.

[Vegas69]

You have a PM Herb.

[Flash68]

Damn Vegas.. that thing is looking like a monster!

[mdprovee]

Great looking car, and the motor should make it haul !!!

[GPI]

Cant wait to see it runnin around the local streets. Very Nice!!!

[Vegas69]

Me either!!!

[69TAPoser]

Very nice!!

What -AN fitting is that on the valve cover?

Phil

[JEFFTATE]

That ..... Is Very Nice !
Thanks for posting !

[mikey]

I talked to Frank monday about some wheels for my 69 I'm leaning really hard towards the wheels you're putting on.:cool: I can't wait to see it finished I'm thinking polished outer with bright silver centers. The car will be blue with a silver ss stripe. Btw your car is gonna be sweeet.

[Vegas69]

Mikey.. I think you are making a great choice. haha I have a photo with them on the car, but not quite ready to reveal it yet.

[GPI]

Well, How much longer?

[Vegas69]

It will be here soon but I don't expect it on the street until late spring early summer. Depends on how much time I have to work on it. Some changes I made today will hold it up a little getting here.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Some changes I made today will hold it up a little getting here.

LOL! But oh what a change in the right direction!

[Vegas69]

Yeah...I agree with you 100%. Car is going to be off the hook! Can I borrow $5 bucks?

[GPI]

^ Hahaha, that bad?

[stmeljes]

I was wondering on the wheels in the drawing..who did u decide to go with?? Car looks great. Frank is always on here and churning out awesome work, he must have an awesome crew. Im a firm believer in u get what u pay for.

[Vegas69]

Will have photos soon. :naughty:

[Vegas69]

Well the front subframe is in and welded, paint is almost finish buffed.......but I woke up yesterday and decided it was a bad move to use the stock sub in my car. So the boys at Prodigy are going to cut it out and the new DSE sub is going in!!
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This will allow me to run a 275mm up front and drop it another inch from the 2 inch drop springs. Plus I can fine tune the ride height without cutting springs.


Now the problem. I have to buy new headers, widen the front wheels, buy new tires, :willy:
So my kick ass Lemons Headers are for sale and my freshly restored front sub tricked out with all DSE's finest is for sale. The pits have been filled and she has a fresh coat of paint. Headers are $1425 shipped and I need to think about the sub.
Frank has also ordered me a narrower rear end due to rear wheel changes.

[GPI]

Oh, thats all? Just woke up and thought about a small change? LOL. I wish I could wake up tomorrow and accomplish anything on my car. Work always seems to get in the way of fun. Good choice though, you will definately no regret it!

[mikey]

:postpics: of your wheels lets see them:poke: please!!!!!!!!!

[Vegas69]

Soon....

[78 Type-LT]

sweet ride

[7TSS]

LOL something similar happenned to me. Woke up one day and decided that I was going to change the color of my just painted car. :pat: :screwy:

[Vegas69]

I couldn't have done that man. I knew it was black from day one. If I had painted it any other color, I always would have wished it was black. Looks like you are going to the dark side. That a boy:naughty:

[Sparky67]

Well the front subframe is in and welded, paint is almost finish buffed.......but I woke up yesterday and decided it was a bad move to use the stock sub in my car. So the boys at Prodigy are going to cut it out and the new DSE sub is going in!!


Hmmm, I figured that you would switch to the DSE subframe. Definitely a good choice. I did the same thing on my mine about a year ago. Although, I didn't have the headers. Did you order brakes for it yet? Takes the brakes with a C6 spindle. I got Baer 6 piston monoblock and 14 inch rotor. The cheapest the place to buy them was at Tybrne Motorsports. http://www.tbyrne.com I think they are sale again there. Took awhile to get them, but at that price it was worth the wait.

Do you have plans to smooth the DSE subframe too? You car looks great.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

[Young Gun]

Hmmm, I figured that you would switch to the DSE subframe. Definitely a good choice. I did the same thing on my mine about a year ago. Although, I didn't have the headers. Did you order brakes for it yet? Takes the brakes with a C6 spindle. I got Baer 6 piston monoblock and 14 inch rotor. The cheapest the place to buy them was at Tybrne Motorsports. http://www.tbyrne.com I think they are sale again there. Took awhile to get them, but at that price it was worth the wait.

Do you have plans to smooth the DSE subframe too? You car looks great.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro


that subframe looks great! the color is awsome!

[Vegas69]

Jeff...I had ordered my Wilwood kit but luckily they haven't shipped so Frank got them changed in time. No plans to smooth the frame like you did to yours. I really don't want to hold up the project and feel it's a huge step up in looks from stock anyway. I have seen your frame many times surfing and it looks great.

[Vegas69]

Couple of you guys have asked about the wheels especially Mikey!!!:cheers: Car is in wet sanding stage here. You don't think they're to skinny do you?
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Photos of front and back and paint fully polished next!!!

[Sparky67]

Jeff...I had ordered my Wilwood kit but luckily they haven't shipped so Frank got them changed in time. No plans to smooth the frame like you did to yours. I really don't want to hold up the project and feel it's a huge step up in looks from stock anyway. I have seen your frame many times surfing and it looks great.

Well, you can do the subframe in bondo. That is what Kyle Tucker did on his prototype subframe. There is another guy that did in bondo, but can't remember the name. Regardless, you have disassemble it to paint or powder coat it. Anyway, the amount of money that you are spending on headers, etc. Every little detail sets the car off.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

[mikey]

:jawdrop: :hail: I think that my check book is going to go on a Forgeline diet real soon:seizure: What back space did you go with in the rear? I'm thinking 5.5-6.5 for mine.

[Vegas69]

The sub is in! The car will be Vegas bound very soon.
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[GPI]

Very nice! You must be going nuts waiting.

[eddie.0011]

Awsome!!!

[Lenie]

Nice car.

[K5Cruiser]

Beautiful car! I may have missed it, but what size tire are you running in the rear?

[Vegas69]

Thanks.....345/30/19

[markd]

Great looking project! Keep the pictures coming

[Vegas69]

There will be plenty of pictures coming. I ordered the transport today!

[Vegas69]

I don't need no stinking carpet:headbang:
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[jimthestonemaker]

Just went through and read this thread. Your car is beautiful.

[scogin918]

What did you use to coat the trunk area?

[Vegas69]

Zolatone and Jim the best is yet to come.

[vp23271]

I read your thread from beginning to end and looking forward to seeing the finishing pictures! Your engine looks killer with all the brushed item!

[GPI]

So, when is the arrival date?

[Vegas69]

I'm guessing no later than the 28th.

[Young Gun]

The camaro is looking great... those wheels really set off the car well...its coming together very nicely, I can wait to read all about it in one of the magazines!

[willih6996]

The wheel and tire combo looks killer. Thats a PHAT lip. Haha. Awesome project, can't wait to see it all done.

[Vegas69]

Thanks man....it's setting at the transport company right now.

[Dreamin69]

It's been 24-Hours and no pictures yet!!! Car looks great!

[Vegas69]

After many months of coming in and out of the garage and being a huge procrastinator,(I hate paint work) I decided the oil pan had to match the block and car. I liked it red at first, but it just doesn't match my theme. Nothing like sniffing paint first thing in the morning.

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The car is on the semi heading this way finally! Set at the transport company for almost a week. Frank hasn't emailed me the final photos due to there size.So I'll just tease everybody until the car gets here.:D It's not clean or final buffed at this point.
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I have been ordering parts like a mad man. I am going to stock pile everything and knock it out asap.

[GPI]

Well, whats the final delivery date?

[Vegas69]

Last night! Here is the story and photos:
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=14316

Pictures from today
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[Vegas69]

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[Denvervet]

Sick car....did you get exhaust installed already? If so, what size tubing? What great motivation for the rest of us. Good work.

[jknight16]

Looks amazing, and it must be a great feeling knowing that everything underneath that liquid black paint is well restored and solid too!

[Motown 454]

WOW is the only thing to say. It looks awsome those wheels look great withe that black paint. That engine is going to shine in that engine bay. Can't wait to hear it run. Keep the pictures comming.
Wayne

[LONE*STAR]

SICK CAR...

What is the part number for the AN fitting used on the fabricated valve covers for breather lines to a catch can I am putting togather the same setup right now.

[70 Chevelle]

Absolutely beautiful. Nothin better than a black car with great body work. What paint system does Frank use?

[Vegas69]

Thanks for the compliments guys. The breather fitting is made by Moroso and can be found on there website. Not sure what paint system Frank uses and it has no engine so no exhaust.

[ProdigyCustoms]

First off, Thanks for the kind words Todd. We pride ourselves on giving what we say we will give at the price we quoted! You were a pleasure to work with. It is nice working with someone with a clear vision and a obvious knack for details. We always appreciate customers like you that buy all the coolest stuff. Just makes our hard work look that much better. I cannot wait to see it when your finished. I think I will fly out to go for a ride! You know if you need anything at all.................

Thanks again

The paint system is Sherwin Williams Ultra 7 line. The car is shot in base, then 2 1/2 coats of Ultra 7 950 clear (thi is a super high solids clear, more the 2 1/2 coats is TOO MUCH at once), then long blocked with 600 and re cleared with 2 1/2 coats of 950 clear again. Then long blocked with 800, 1500, then sponge blocked with 2500, 3000 Trizact, and then some magic 4000 grit called buff flex, then buffed with Mequires line.

The car is no riddler winner, but pretty damn straight and flat for a black paint job. Black always brings out the best in a painter. This was the first black one we have done since Prodigy. A little known fact, all my cars are black except Lisa's EmptyNest. Just always love black!

[LONE*STAR]

I have had a little trouble finding the fitting do you mind helping me narrow my search?

[compos mentis]

This badd black beauty reinforces one man's opinion. I don't care how good the new Camaro's might ride and drive. The 67-69's are and will still be 'King of Camaro Hill' by a long shot... IMHO. 2nd gen's a great look also but still in 2nd place-:)

Skip

[GPI]

Wow, Looks amazing!! I imagine it looks that much better person too!!

[Vegas69]

This badd black beauty reinforces one man's opinion. I don't care how good the new Camaro's might ride and drive. The 67-69's are and will still be 'King of Camaro Hill' by a long shot... IMHO. 2nd gen's a great look also but still in 2nd place-:)

Skip

Amen brother........impossible to build a more muscular beautiful car. And it does lookk even better in person!

[compos mentis]

I believe it does look better in person..thanks for the tease...ouch!

I really like this shot of the shock and the fittings...quality!

Skip

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[68/CamaroFL]

Your Car Looks Freakin Awesome!!! :eek:
What rear end set up did you use?

[Vegas69]

Thanks...It's a moser 12 bolt true trac with a 3.73 and G-Bar ready.

[Johnny C.]

Thats an awesome car and it looks great. It has a sinister look.

[Vegas69]

Thanks for the compliments...I have been busy with work and the car! Sorry to keep you in the dark. Here are some updated photos. Been kicking more aise and taking more names than it looks like.
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[Vegas69]

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[Vegas69]

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[Vegas69]

The big hoss went in tonight after fighting bellhousing aligment for 2 hours.
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[CHRIS67]

Awesome! :drool:

[7TSS]

Nice progress!!!
Engine looks sweet in there.

[ITLBTU]

I can't believe you did that to an all original 307 car! Haha! I did that to mine too... although my finished, or perpetual project is no where near you cars caliber. I noticed that you put the g-bar in the rear. I have it too, but I don't really like it. It is better than the leafs, but I plan on getting rid of the top links and transforming it in to a de-coupled torque arm. Just waiting on some funds.. Your car is a beauty though! :drool:

[Motown 454]

Boy that looks good in there ! You must be itching to go now that your that close. Who maakes the accessory drive and pullies?
Wayne

[Vegas69]

Thanks boys.....tranny is in after an afternoon of cussing. Ended up needing to pull the clutch fork with a tie strap so the transmission snout would fit in the bellhousing. I remember it being really snug when I test fit it. Will need to fabricate a crossmember or modify mine.
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[Over Actor]

My friend this is one hell of a car! Everything I'd love for mine to be!

But I have 1 question. I love how you Powder coated the front bumper. Why didnt you do the rear to match?

[vp23271]

Looking GOOD! :hail:

[Code Red]

very nice

[Young Gun]

sweet! looks awsome!

[Vegas69]

My friend this is one hell of a car! Everything I'd love for mine to be!

But I have 1 question. I love how you Powder coated the front bumper. Why didnt you do the rear to match?

Really appreciate all the positive feedback. I really don't like the look of a painted rear bumper. It really dulls the rear end. With my polished lips, chrome mirrors/door handles, it just fits. I was 100% satisfied with complete package looks when it showed up.

[Over Actor]

Thanks for the reply. The black front bumper really set the front end off Nicely. If I go black with my 69 firebird the front bumper will be black.
Cant wait to see your car on the road.

[GMracer]

Looks absolutely stunning man!

[bigboi]

Man... That is one bad a$s ride! Unreal attention to detail! Nice work!

[SaturnVUEguy]

Very nice build so far!

[BA.]

The paint job looks gorgeous dude! I can only hope mine turns out as good.

[skatinjay27]

Really appreciate all the positive feedback. I really don't like the look of a painted rear bumper. It really dulls the rear end. With my polished lips, chrome mirrors/door handles, it just fits. I was 100% satisfied with complete package looks when it showed up.im with ya on that one todd... painted rear bumpers looks to 80s to me.lol
the the front is the shiz.

[Spiffav8]

im with ya on that one todd... painted rear bumpers looks to 80s to me.lol
the the front is the shiz.

X2

To much of a good thing.

[Vegas69]

Thanks boys....I have been a little burn't out lately on her but making good progress none the less. Really close to turning the key.
Here are some updates.
Fuel system is complete along with oil.
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This setup has been changed slightly later in the thread....

[Vegas69]

The rear end wiring is done including the fuel pump etc. Power steering is done and full of fluid. I had to unbolt the rack and pinion to get the high side fitting on it. That means I had to take the splined sway bar out etc. My only bitch with the DSE frame. I don't think that line is no nin this photo.
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[Vegas69]

Headers are in the car and starter wires were modified for reliability. They look really good. Really happy with the fit and finish. Highly recommend Lemons Headers so far.
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[Vegas69]

I have left a bunch of details out of these posts. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have some questions.

[23corner_blitz]

looking good :twothumbs

[meenaggie]

Vegas - I know you were disappointed with the delivery and customer service on the engine from T&L but how does it run? Are you pleased with the performance?

[69Bbird]

Where did you get your wire looms from? Like that look.

[Vegas69]

Well I have run into a couple problems that will slow me down.
The drivetrain angle is approx 4.5 degrees measuring off the tail shaft, and that is with it uncomfortably close to the tunnel. I am going to order the driveshaft and measure off the U joint caps like Jim over at Classic Chevy 5 speed said I must do. Looks like the tunnel will need cut or I'll have to put stock height bushings in the car. I would have to cut the subframe connector welds to put stock height bushing in it anyway. At this point I'll probably cut the tunnel due to already cutting all my custom lines. I did ask for stock height bushings when Prodigy built my roller, so not real excited about all the trouble it's caused me so far. More than likely Payback is going to have to make a trip down to ATS for the tunnel fabrication. May just get it running and have him do the tunnel and exhaust all at once.
Had to cut the hole for my AC in my DSE dash and the paint chipped when I pulled off the tape. Make sure you cut all your holes before you paint it. :yes:
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[tom_a]

I scanned through but did not see it mentioned. Are those Sparco Chrono Road seats? If so how happy are you with them?

Thanks,

[Vegas69]

I haven't ridden in them yet but fit and finish is excellent. They are comforable to sit in as well. They don't make the fabric for the rear seat yet. fyi

[tom_a]

I haven't ridden in them yet but fit and finish is excellent. They are comforable to sit in as well. They don't make the fabric for the rear seat yet. fyi

Thanks.

[Vegas69]

She is alive. Hooked up the dash panel and ignition switch so I could watch my oil pressure while priming the engine. Pretty exciting to see the fruits of my labor turn into something like lights. Turned over the engine briefly to check the starter shimming and it's perfect.
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Primed the oil pump for quite a while to make sure I had no leaks. I am running braided 350 hose and a remote oil filter on the front passenger frame. Everything looks great. The distributor is now stabbed and spark plug wires are done.
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[Vegas69]

For you guys running the DSE sub. Do yourself a favor and have them weld on the Z bar bracket. The inner fender makes this a real pain in the you know what. It's tapped and done right but......it was a last minute change. The clutch rod etc. is on the top of the list. She is a dirty pig right now and needs some touch up. Somehow the inner fender got all scratched to **** on the way here. Of course no steering was probably the cause.
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The boys over at ATS have been treating me right. Here is the solution to my crossmember issues. They modified it with one of their T56 crossmember ends and moved the center bracket slightly. Of course it still needs painted. ATS is top notch. Highly recommend them.
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I added fuel tonight to prime the fuel system and check for leaks. I had 4 leaks. Two at the carb bowls and the fitting on both sides of the pump. I used a pipe dope and the fuel ate right through it. Lucky me!! I had to disasemble all the fittings with the dope and replace it with tape. It's all fixed now but what a mother ######. The carb leaks were caused by a frankly crappy design. They used two gaskets with my high dollar fuel rail. I used the gaskets and tape and it's not leaking anytime soon.

[Vegas69]

Late last night I realized the dash lights weren't working. The right turn signal also was not functional. I dug in this morning and found blown fuses in both circuits. I definitely had a short on my hands. For those of you that are not real savvy with electronics the key to finding the short is eliminating segments of the wiring that you think has the short. In these old cars it's a piece of cake. It turned out to be my brand spanking new right front parking lamp. They must of chaffed the wires during assembly. I unplugged it and everything is perfect. I'll probably disasemble it and try to fix it vs send it back.
My first view of the gauges at night. :D
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I spent most of the rest of the night installing my emergency brake cable. Cut the lokar cables have everthing set up perfect. Push down on the pedal and it's rock hard and the wheels aren't moving with a breaker bar. About the third time it sinks to the floor. Pile of crap OER front cable broke third pull. :unibrow: So brand new OER parts are my two bugs to fix for the night. My works flawless.
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[68/CamaroFL]

Nice Job Vegas! keep up the good work! Looking Great!:twothumbs

[69ptcamaro]

Vegas, my taste in cars may be a mirror image of yours. I love everything about your car. Wouldn't change anything if it were mine. Awesome!

[wblanton]

Dude you know how to pick the right parts for a car and mesh them together.... That is one BADA$* Ride..... :seizure: Attention to detail makes a car and you definitely got that taken care of...

[1badchevelle]

Love the car, my head is turning with ideas for my next project.
I do have one question why the name payback?

[Vegas69]

Thank you guys! I am not revealing all my cards just yet. It's done under the hood and I am pretty excited about it.

[Vegas69]

Well I finally got my front brakes. Have to say Frank over at Prodigy Customs came through for me as always. 13" rotors have been on back order and he hooked me up with 14" for free. Keep in mind guys that I have spent a nickel or two thisyear with him so don't go asking. :lol: They are flipping huge!
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I have only had time to install the drivers side. Had to buy C6 bolts from Chevy for the mounting brackets. I also had to clearance the spindle slightly with a aggressive file for the caliper bracket to mount flush. Plenty of clearance now and the wheels fit nice as well. Drivers side is all shimmed out and ready for some fun.
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[Vegas69]

I fired her up for the first time this morning. She sounds really really good and healthy. Only 90 today but the fans kept it right at 195 where I have it programmed. Stoked is an understatement right now.

Crank your speakers for some big block music
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I need to play with timing and idle speed still. About a tea spoon of oil on the floor from one oil line at filter adapter after 20 minutes. Think they probably just need a littl more torque. I have since learned these fittings need to be pretty tight after my fuel fiasco.

[Denvervet]

Great to see that coming to fruition. Nice deep BBC sound...I'm jealous you've gotten that far . Good work.I'm still waiting on my Gbar so I can get mine off the rotisserie.

[GPI]

Those brakes were worth the wait. Did they finally show yesterday? Guess I need to make another trip across town and hear it run in person. Nice work!

[Vegas69]

:cheers: Long road boys.....Nick hope to take you for a ride when you come over.

[Vegas69]

Well after all these months I have steering!!!! Smooth as butter and looks great too.
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I now have brakes too! Fought a couple leaks with the connections around the master cylinder. Loosening the lines and retightening them did the trick. I vaccuum blead them last night. The old lady let me borrow her leg. Brakes feel great, no leaks, really like the feel of them so far. DSE dash is fully bolted in along with the column, steering wheel, brake switch, drivers seat is in. When it's done I'll post all the photos.
Made a homemade bench bleeder.
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It's on the road this week! Have a couple of trick parts here and on the way to dress her up a little. haha

[novanutcase]

WOW!!! Looks and sounds great!

Congrats on getting her on the road!

John

[68/CamaroFL]

Nice Sound! and looking Great!!! :cool:

[mdprovee]

Congrats, looking good and getting closer.

[orbit]

:jawdrop: Ok, ok, ok... I can hardly contain myself and its not even my build!!! LOL

Time for some pix:spank2: of this beauty! All of it though, not just a quarter or fender or rim..... please?

[130fe]

Todd, thanks for letting me drop by on Sunday. It was good meeting you. You have a very nice car and it will be fun to drive when you get done!

[2ndgenracer]

Hey Vegas,

Saw your post and thought I'd check out your ride, man this thing is phenomenal and the detail work is killer.

Brett

[ZFSix]

Beautiful car man. Any updates?

[Vegas69]

Thanks guys...probably not to many updates until the stance is nailed and I finish up a few details. Right now I have the new Rack and Pinion here but overnighted new teflon washers for the fittings. Then the Rack is going in and some final adjustments on the coil overs. Then a ride:naughty: and down to ATS for exhaust. Then alignment and finally stereo and interior finishing touches. It's been 108-110 lately and hard to drag myself out of the AC at night.

[ZFSix]

Thanks guys...probably not to many updates until the stance is nailed and I finish up a few details. Right now I have the new Rack and Pinion here but overnighted new teflon washers for the fittings. Then the Rack is going in and some final adjustments on the coil overs. Then a ride:naughty: and down to ATS for exhaust. Then alignment and finally stereo and interior finishing touches. It's been 108-110 lately and hard to drag myself out of the AC at night.
I know the feeling, I've got a project in my garage that needs to be tackled, but 100+ degree weather makes me stay in the a/c!

[Vegas69]

It's been a while since I updated my project. As some of you know I had some fuel system problems after a few test drives. Very noisy pump and low pressure when hot. Replaced the pump and it was junk out of the box.
I was very burnt out after working on the car nonstop since it showed up in April and haven't done much to it for a few weeks. The 100-110 degree temps will zap you pretty quick. After all this is supposed to be fun. I am ready to dig back in with fall and decent temps around the bend. I have redesigned the fuel system with new components and old. I will be running a return style system with the following components:
Feed: 1/2 npt to 10an
New Aeromotive shut off valve/filter 10an
Mallory 140 fuel pump
1/2 hardline and 8AN after pump
Holley return style regulator(Wanted to use the same bracketry)
1/2 hardline and 8 an return line into the top of the tank
1/2 to 10 an Vent from the top of the tank
I am still waiting on two 1/2 stainless fittings from Ricks so I can have ATS weld them in for my new return and larger vent. Ricks only puts a 1/4 npt vent standard. It should be atleast as large as your fuel line. As soon as I get the tank squared away I'll have it knocked out in a couple nights or a day.
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[Vegas69]

I also had some major concerns about the fuel sender. The needle has always been pegged on Empty. Knowing I had 4 gallons in the tank I checked the resistance at my sender plug and found .5 ohms. That explains why it's pegged on empty. After a call to Hector over at Ricks Tanks I discovered that they have the sender off the tank floor more than I expected. Now that I have the tank out and the entire fuel system apart it was time to test it. I found nothing wrong with the sender. It looks like I'll have one hell of a reserve. :D That could get me in some trouble.
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[Motown 454]

Better that you know you have extra fuel, than wondering why its using so much and reading empty so fast. Hope you enjoyed your vacation.

[Vegas69]

It's been a adventurous few weeks to say the least. Business had been crazy busy and I spent the better part of 2 weeks redesigning my fuel system to a return style system which included ATS welding in some stainless stell bungs. I ended up with a mallory 140 pump and three 1/2 npt bungs. Feed, retun, vent. I ran 1/2npt to 10an feed to the pump and 8an hardline and braided to the regulator, 8an and 1/2 hardline return to the top of the tank, 1/2 vent from the top of the tank. Everybody said it was overkill to run that size vent. I filled my car up tonight with the pump at full blast. With a 3/8 barb it would barely take fuel. Mallory really lead me in the right direction. Highly recommend those guys!

After all my fuel fun it was time to take her down to ATS for exhaust. Frank at prodigycustoms sent me my magnaflow system in stainless with 3" pipes and mufflers. After getting the fuel system dialed in and open headers I decided to drive her down to ATS. It's about 15 miles from my place. The car ran absolutely fantastic and I hadn't calibrated the speedo and was running 90-100mph down the I 15 into Vegas. Car felt so good! I get down to the frontage road to ATS and goose it to show off and slammed on the brakes to make the turn. The engine floods out and the headers catch fire from the excess fuel. Now the air cleaner catches fire. Luckily I grabbed my extinguisher for the ride and Tyler came running. I popped the hood immediately and we got it out before much damage. Well turns out the rear float level on a 850 holley being to high will dump fuel into your engine under hard braking especially to a stop. I had the pleasure of spending 4-6 hours sanding headers with soap, water, and fine steel wool, brushing floor boards, and replacing a couple wire loom nylons. I got so damn lucky . She's about 80% of what she was pre fire. Meaning detail wise.
So I pulled the carb off and ripped it apart to see if any debris was present from my fuel plumbing job. Carb was clean. Had to be rear float level. Put her back on the car and it leaked like a siv. Replaced the float bowl gasket and it leaked. Had to replaced the bolt nylons to get it to quit. This is when I went to school on holley float adjusting. Finally got her dialed in tonight .
Time for the test drive. Take her out and hammer her pretty hard. This biatch flys! Running down the freeway doing 80 and it sputter and dies. Just what I need right now. It's out of gas. Best news I have had in 3 weeks. Old lady bring a gas can and she fires right up and I filled it up dialed in the idle and there she sits.
Springs are settling super fast. I need to crank up the coil overs again to get it to where the front doesn't rub and the back looks proportional.
Pictures and a killer video are coming very soon .

[newbaa]

Beautiful. absolutely gorgeous. Black is just a killer color.

Betcha that fire scared the crap outta you! i know it would have me. kinda reminds me of Steve and Bad Penny... only able to drive it a few miles and disaster.

Can't wait for more pics and videos!

[Motown 454]

Sorry to heart about the fire. Looking forward to the pictures and video!

[Vegas69]

Been taking her on routine little runs. To the gym and for a haircut yesterday. Tonight I went to lowes and ran a big loop on the freeway. I have to say driving my 08 550i is a bore now. :rofl: Walking out of lowes tonight made it all worth it. The flourescent light really made the wheels bling. A nice couple was like what is that thing. First set of jaws dropping. The picture sucks but I couldn't resist and shot it with my cellphone. She looked about 10 times as hot. If I had a lawn chair and a 6 pack well....
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[craigs73]

need to make a video of that car in action :drive1: :bananna2: man i can only hope that my car turns out half as nice as ours:twothumbs

[newbaa]

lol, most of the time i hate it when people take up two parking spaces......... but i would have done the EXACT same thing. and it's a perfect place to park it. cement curb on one side and it doesn't look like there is another spot beside you.

[Vegas69]

Appreciate it guys.....my buddy does some sick videos and I'll have a really nice one as soon as the interior is done and I have time to film it.:drive1:

[Motown 454]

I'm looking forward to seeing that video!

[Vegas69]

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[Flash68]

Todd, that looks bad ass. Got some interior shots?

[ProdigyCustoms]

Lookin good. The contrustion area is a good spot. One of our favorite cars.

Try getting some pictures at dusk, or just before not in bright sunlight.

[68/CamaroFL]

:hail: Nice Pictures Todd
That is one Beautiful Machine!!!

[Vegas69]

I am no photographer and have a Canon Elph that is decent at best. I am taking the car down to two shops this week for interior ideas.

[LT4POWR]

very tasteful choices...super nice car!

[Motown 454]

Todd Sweet pictures. How well do those tires hook up? Can you get it to come out of the hole or do you just fry them?
Wayne

[Vegas69]

They don't stand a chance.:1st:

[skatinjay27]

what other int. shop are you gonna talk ?
BE CAREFULL!

[orbit]

That car is stunning.:hammer: The paint is perfect! And when you have a black painted car thats perfect, there is NO better color!

Very jelous.:woot:

[BIGX69]

Bad Ass!!!this Car Has So Much Trick Stuff On It...simple But Hotttt!!! One Of My Fav.....

[Vegas69]

Means alot coming from you.....your car is going to be a true one of a kind. Met with an interior guy today. We came up with some really good ideas. I have a feeling I may need to trim the fat to keep it affordable but it will be top notch.

[Vegas69]

Got one word for this car. Insane. First time I have ever punched the throttle and got sideways going 55!!!!:D That 587 ftlbs at 3700 gets it done. The money spent on the headers and exhaust was worth every penny. I am confident I am getting every last ounce of horsepower out of this engine. Working out some bugs this week.

Clutch pedal wasn't returning to the pedal stop. I made a z bracket out of 3/8 steel and a stronger spring. I attached it to the blow proof bellhousing. With these 2 1/8 headers using a stock spring setup is not going to happen. Redo

Pinion angle/ rear tire rub. After a discussion a month of so ago I discovered that the pinion angle was supposed to be 1 degree negative of the drive line angle with a G Bar. A little more with high horsepower applications. I set mine at 2 degrees negative tonight after having it 2 degree negative of level. It did smooth out the acceleration somewhat. I knew I would gain some clearance from the front of the tire to the fender lip. It actually moved the tire back .5 inches and centered the tire in the wheel well.:thumbsup: Two problems solved in one. It didn't get rid of the vibration that starts right at 72. It's got to be wheel balance because it has none until that point. (Buy the Prodigy Bar....the stock setup absolutely sucks for pinion angle adjustments) I hope the neighbors kids were in bed.

Hesitation hot off idle/ hard hot start I bought a Phenolic .5 carb spacer. This cuts way down on the heat transfer between the engine and carb. From some research new fuels boil easier than old. The cooler you can keep your carb the better. Tomorrow it's going on and then I will tweak the idle mixtures and accelerator pumps. This should help me eleminate the stumble off idle and hard hot start.

Re routed my vent for my fuel tank. More of a striaght up design. While under the car tonight I now have a leak at my pump inlet. Drip ever once an a while. I used high temp teflon and let it set up for 72hrs. These things are a bitch to seal.

I also adjusted all four coil overs for the third time. The front is higher than I would like but it seems to still be settling. I am going to drive it for a few weeks and then worry about getting it perfect.

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[skatinjay27]

todd did you figure out somthing for the back seats?
theres a guy from nasty z that got some crossweave material from sparco that matched his seats and i asked how he got it. he said his warehouse works with them and it was a special order but said he knows of the material with the metal sheen youhaveon yours and could get it from them... siad its pretty expensive though, it was like $200 for 1 meter by 5 meters.

[Vegas69]

That's a good lead since I plan to put a back seat in it after all. Just working on the sound system, AC/heat, etc right now. Back seat will be last but soon. How do I contact him?

[skatinjay27]

ill pm him for his email/phone.

[wblanton]

Car is awesome but I dont know if you noticed but someone has painted some palm trees on the side of your car.:pat: That is some slick ass paint, awesome stance.

[Matts01ES]

Man where did u get that braided line in black?

[01somta]

Man where did u get that braided line in black?

You can get it from jegs, I believe it is the 350 series.

[Matts01ES]

Thanks for the info

[vp23271]

Vegas,

The car looks great!

I like your simple solution for mounting your fuel pump.



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[Vegas69]

Thanks guys...Rick I have changed that design and pump since but the concept is the same.

[Vegas69]

It's been a couple weeks and I haven't got a whole lot accomplished. Well yes and no.
I have a small vibration that starts at 72. Thought it was wheel balance so I tried some dyna beads.
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Not to bad to install. Take out the valve stems and put in 4 oz of these tiny beads. Patience goes a long ways. Didn't do a damn thing. :D I am starting to think it's just a by product of solid motor mounts and overdrive.

[Vegas69]

Well the car is out of commission for interior work. I talked to a couple shops and they wanted crazy money and the car for the rest of my life. So I decided to get as far as I can, of course being happy with the outcome and what I am not capable of or have time for someone can finish.

Well 600hp and 2 1/8 primaries makes some serious heat. The floors are coated inside and out, and I also have second skin dynapro or whatever they call it. The floor was still getting hot especially in the foot boards and tunnel. I decided to add a second layer of insulation. It's 3/8 inch thick with jute and foil on both sides. The whole floor and tunnel is done. I built up the rear floor pans to be even as they would be from the factory. Since I have the DSE connectors it puts a nice hump in the floor pan for the carpet. I then taped it all with aluminized heat tape.
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I am also going to leave the jute on the carpet. Should be nice and cozy now. I already cut the carpet to short.:unibrow: I have a new set here.

[Vegas69]

I have spent alot of time looking at different stereo and speaker options. You really didn't think I was going to half ass the sound system did you.:D

I decided to go with an Alpine 2008 model with IPOD, HD radio, Blue tooth, etc. You can pick your songs right on the head unit. Pretty slick set up. It's wired up and ready to go.

I am also running the factory setup in the dash, except for I opted for the kenwood upgrade. The bracket that came with it was so flimsy I decided to make my own.

Now for the fun part. Everything else is top of the line JL Audio. I am going to have 2 4" speakers in the kicks with tweeters. 2 6x9's in the rear dash with tweeters. 10" sub in the trunk along with my 1320 watt amp. Should get the job done.:thumbsup: Once I get the carpet back in and seats all the rest of the sounds system. I am going to take it somewhere to build the box. The amp will be mounted to it and maybe the trunk carpeted.
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I have to say that I have never been that interested in interior or sound systems. I am enjoying it so far.

[Vegas69]

I need my car back on the road by next weekend for some cruises and Sema stuff. I now have the Heat/AC unit brackets and misc. to get it level and in the right position for ducts and hoses. With a shaved firewall and not wanting to breach it, things are more difficult.
I decided I wanted the combination of old school fresh air vents and modern AC and Heat. I have good memories of opening the vents in my 68 on a cool night. So it will have both. I installed the 4" JL's in the kicks and isulated the area behind the speakers.
Since the dash top was replaced by Prodigy Customs during the body restoration, the defrost vent mounts were missing. I fabbed up some brackets out of some roofing materials and they are exactly where they need to be.
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[Vegas69]

I spent a **** load of time on the rear dash shelf getting it to fit decent. I trimmed the edges with molding. I also insulated it with the same material used on the floor. The JL 6x9's are in and it looks decent. I need some more molding to put in the cut outs for the roll bar. All and all not the proudest moment of the build but I think it's good enough.
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[Vegas69]

The rest of the day was spent on misc. wiring including the AC, convenience lights, stereo, and cutting the carpeting. At the end of the day it was cool to have the interior lights working with the jamb switches and playing King George off the ipod through the front speakers. :thumbsup:
Tomorrow I'll install the kicks for the final time, run all the amp wiring including rca cables, intall the carpet for good, shifter boot, radio, cut the holes in the firewall for the AC and heater hoses.
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[Motown 454]

aweet ! Where did you the fresh air in from? Didn't you close off the openings? It looks sweet.

[Lenie]

Todd, cars looking good. I like the dash lights photo'd in the dark.
Wanting to see this car.

[Vegas69]

Wayne....kept the original astro ventilation. You block the cowl ducting with Vintage air.

Lenie....been busting my ass on this thing last couple days. All I really need to do is throw the seats in it and detail to make the cruise and Sema Lateral G party. Drivers door panel is just to big and hits the kick panel and the door won't shut. Hope to persuade classic industries to take this one back and send me a new one. It won't be done but close enough to drive. Are you going to the Lateral G party?

[Lenie]

I will be going and hope to see you and your ride there at whatever stage the cars at. Good work.

[chevelle19700]

did you check the pinion angle to determine if that might be your vibration




It's been a couple weeks and I haven't got a whole lot accomplished. Well yes and no.
I have a small vibration that starts at 72. Thought it was wheel balance so I tried some dyna beads.
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Not to bad to install. Take out the valve stems and put in 4 oz of these tiny beads. Patience goes a long ways. Didn't do a damn thing. :D I am starting to think it's just a by product of solid motor mounts and overdrive.

[Vegas69]

Still tweaking on the whole car. I did adjust it once and need to move it up about a degree.

[Vegas69]

Well I decided that I have done enough work on my car lately. It's not finished but getting pretty damn close. When you garage looks like this, it's time to throw the seats back in and enjoy the fruits of your labor. I like driving it more than working on it anyway. I am a crew of one and this is the time to drive my car. It's comfy now and I have tunes. In the next few weeks I'll have a box built, carpet the trunk, and put in the back seat. My main goal was get it decent for the Sema fun.
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[Vegas69]

Carpet is in, radio is in, all speaker wiring is routed, shifter boot, kick panels, rear shelf, all speakers except sub. Sticking point if drivers door panel. The door won't shut with it installed in the right spot for the windlace. Car is identical on both sides. Probably going to need to shave the panel. So may end up recovering both panels and then the rear panels will match so they aren't done.

I decided to clean up the garage and in the middle put the front spoiler on with one bolt. What do you think? With or without the spoiler?
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I took the car out last night and today. What a huuuuuuge difference the second layer of insulation and carpet made. The floor doesn't get even warm and the old school astro venitlation is awesome. It's much quieter as well.


I will be at the Lateral G dinner and hopefully the road races. A shameless photo.
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You will have to see the interior at the Lateral G party or when it's finished. Now for the best part, it's time to take the car out. 75, no wind, and not a cloud in the sky.

[Motown 454]

Your killing me here its 60 rainy, windy and the trees are already loosing their leave's. It looks great, you need to go for that ride to charge youself back up . All work and no play is not good for you .Enjoy your hard work.
Wayne

[slck6t9]

Car looks awesome!!!! I like the front spoiler look too. :cool:

[compos mentis]

Yes to the spoiler.

It will win in a landslide! Lol

[armourmark]

The has turned out great!! I vote to leave the spoiler off. It is such a clean looking front without it.

[BaddestBuick]

I vote for the spoiler on

[01somta]

I vote for spoiler and you have a beautiful car!!!!

[craigs73]

were still waiting on that video of the car in acrion :6gears: :slap:

[Flash68]

were still waiting on that video of the car in acrion :6gears: :slap:


Yeah let's hear some good exhaust video. I wanna hear those dumps!

[Vegas69]

Thanks and I agree on the spoiler going on. Did you see that garage Flash? You will get your video soon...... Are you in town for Sema?

[Flash68]

Thanks and I agree on the spoiler going on. Did you see that garage Flash? You will get your video soon...... Are you in town for Sema?

Yes I am jealous and wish I had my own 2-3 car garage. That's what I get for living in the big city! :banghead: A move to suburbia with a garage and yard gets more tempting every year. Soon....


I wish I was going to SEMA. I couldn't make it this year. I did go last year as a rookie and def plan on being there in 09.

[tom_a]

Looks good Todd! I also vote for spoiler

[Vegas69]

Well the transmission is coming back out of my car. I have been fighting a vibration at highway speed in approx 85-95mph range. There has always been a vibration in the 2600-2800 rpm range in the motor. Wouldn't call it a bad vibration. In fact I rode passenger a few days ago and really didn't notice it around town. Just thought it was solid mounts/body mounts. In 1-4th gear it's really not that big a deal. In 5th more harmonics are transferred and it stays in the pocket longer. Orginally I thought it was pinion angle. Until I pushed in the clutch in the pocket and it went away. I was also able to go through that mph range in 4th and beyond with normal vibration.

When I had the engine built it went beyond schedule and they were impossible to reach for a couple months. They were supposed to send the flywheel I paid for. It didn't show and I couldn't wait. After a ton of research and talking with the engine builder. I have a gen vi block with a gen iV crankshaft. I assumed since they used a gen vi block that was the proper flywheel. Turns out you can use a gen iv crank with a adapter for the rear main seal. Keep in mind this is an external balance engine. After some research it appears the weight is in a slightly different place and the imbalance is 33 OZ in the gen iv and 41.7 in the gen v/vi. 8 oz is quite a bit a weight on the end of a crankshaft. I am surprised it only showed up between 2600-2800. I hope I haven't done any damage to my engine. :rolleyes: Would have been nice for them to put something in my paperwork indicating this little fact!!! Oh well....time will tell.

See the difference?
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[Vegas69]

Three hours later and it's all apart. Probably a half hour on a hoist.:rolleyes:

Anyway here we go.

This is an interesting picture and what I believe to be the reason the improper flywheel didn't vibrate anywhere but that specific rpm range. The centerforce weights were definitely compensating.
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[Vegas69]

The inside of the bellhousing has a ring around the inside. This is definitely throw out bearing grease.
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The clutch, flywheel, and pressure plate couldn't look better. No oil penetration.
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[Vegas69]

After three days of crawling around on the garage floor, I got it back together. I went with the proper gen iv centerforce billet steel flywheel. Nice piece. Of course I then had to remove the shims from my starter nose due to about .060 difference in nose to ring gear clearance difference from gen iv to vi. I did buy a real metal clutch alignment tool for like 20 bucks. The tranny went in so easy. I had it up and in in less than 10 minutes. Best 20 bucks I ever spent.
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Well, it's smoother everywhere. But......I still have a vibration. Now it's only at 2800 rpm. Man is she a sweetheart everywhere else. I tried to feel a weight on the balancer but couldn't get my fingers in there. Next I need to verify it's got the correct balancer.

It gave me a chance to clean the bottom while I was under there. Changed the oil and it looked great, changed the tranny fluid and it looked fine as well. Seems things are breaking in nicely. Here are some photos of the bottom. Don't think I have posted many.

The guys at ATS did a fantastic job on my exhaust. Fits so nice and snug. Never has it touched anything in the road.
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[Vegas69]

It will look good for a couple weeks.
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[Flash68]

Great pics!

[compos mentis]

At birth, this Camaro was set apart for pro-touring.:twothumbs

[Vegas69]

70 and sunny today...not a cloud in the sky. Polished her up and out to the middle of nowhere on the Arizona side of the lake. Broke the 1000 mile mark today and got a quick video. Road was not the best so I was taking it easy. I still can't get over just how nice it rides yet handles like my Corvette.

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[compos mentis]

Ouch, that teaser hurts!

How about a Thanksgiving gift to us of multiple minutes of in car video to ease the pain?

[Flash68]

I'm with Skip!

Car looks great in action tho. :yum:

[Motown 454]

Your killing me here! lol Sounds real good. That looks like anice road to feel how it handles. I'm glad you didn't get too in the zone and forget the camera man.
Wayne

[craigs73]

all now your just teasing us i think i might need a :smoke: lol so like the others said we need multiple minutes:enguard:sounded real nice and looked good to of course:yum:

[Vegas69]

It was a really tight road with no room for error. I prefer a road on the Nevada side but it's always busy on the weekends. Way better pavement and more room to roam. Next will probably be a chassis dyno video. I still plan to do a real trick video, but I need to quit driving and start finishing.:hammer:

[Flash68]

It was a really tight road with no room for error. I prefer a road on the Nevada side but it's always busy on the weekends. Way better pavement and more room to roam. Next will probably be a chassis dyno video. I still plan to do a real trick video, but I need to quit driving and start finishing.:hammer:

Git er dun! :machine:

[Motown 454]

I'll be watching for that

[bdmridgeback]

Hey, Vegas, hows it going? Just thought I'd stop in and check out some of this bad ass stuff over here.

I love the Pro-Touring scene.

Take care!
Jake