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Steve1968LS2
08-17-2007, 10:52 PM
I thought it would be fun to have a contest of sorts. Recently I built a 408 stroker small block Ford engine for my Fairlane. It wasn’t a low buck affair, more middle of the road and what I was thinking was a little guessing game.

Guess the corrected HP and TQ and win a prize. The closest person that guesses will get a few cool prizes from my private stash of schwag. In the unlikely event of a tie I will send stuff to both winners. If there are a bunch of ties then the earliest ones win. The amount your off from either number will be added together. This isn’t ‘The Price Is Right’, so you can go over.

Here’s the basic mix:

1975 351W block
Stroked to 408
Eagle cast crank
Forged Rods
Dished SRP forged pistons
10.9 compression - run on 91 octane gas
Comp Magnum roller rockers (alum)
Comp 7.7 inch Magnum push rods
Comp vertical bar roller lifters (recommended by Stangnet)
Edelbrock Victor Jr single-plane intake
Holley 950 cfm carb (73/73 jets)
Comp double roller timing chain
1 ¾ long tube headers
Mallory Unilite distributor
7 quarts of 30w oil in Milodon pan with windage tray
236/240 .555/.576 110LSA Comp hyd roller cam
AFR 205 heads with ti retainers and their “nitrous port”

Lets see.. helpful info:

The AFR heads flowed
308 intake and 243 exhaust at .600
310 intake and 249 exhaust at .700
154 intake and 122 exhaust at .200

Correction factor was 1.098 (was HOT today)


Anyway, just something fun and winners name and website gets in the story. Oh, “blown up” is a valid guess ;)

Oh, the engine was also tested with a RPM Performer and 750 carb, but the guess is for the vic/950 combo. The contest will run until next Wednesday morning California time, lets say 10am PST.

Most of all, have fun…
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Mr.VENGEANCE
08-17-2007, 10:54 PM
510/ 502 tq..

TonyL
08-17-2007, 11:46 PM
485hp/475tq

MrQuick
08-18-2007, 12:32 AM
475 hp 510tq

elcamino80
08-18-2007, 01:22 AM
495hp / 520tq

Jim Nilsen
08-18-2007, 01:44 AM
435 hp and 450 tq.

Nice looking engine too!

MarkM66
08-18-2007, 03:28 AM
502/502

crazyfireman
08-18-2007, 03:38 AM
468hp/477tq

E30M30
08-18-2007, 03:49 AM
500/500

rocketrod
08-18-2007, 04:08 AM
505 Hp/ 525 Tq

sonic69
08-18-2007, 04:21 AM
507/510

StRacerDuke
08-18-2007, 05:14 AM
535/503

Oh, what was the cost to build?

LS1NOVA
08-18-2007, 05:43 AM
498/521

rayy
08-18-2007, 05:54 AM
539 / 545

SicMonte
08-18-2007, 05:58 AM
hmmm.....457hp, 486tq

dylanCamaro582
08-18-2007, 06:27 AM
455 hp / 465 ft-lbs

slenning
08-18-2007, 06:38 AM
489hp/499tq

andrewb70
08-18-2007, 06:45 AM
Westech dyno or some other shop? LMAO

Andrew

D Rock
08-18-2007, 06:53 AM
480hp/485tq

TA219
08-18-2007, 07:10 AM
485 hp / 515 tq

LMDGUY
08-18-2007, 07:11 AM
503hp 515tq

derekf
08-18-2007, 07:32 AM
430h/450t

Steve1968LS2
08-18-2007, 07:38 AM
Westech dyno or some other shop? LMAO

Andrew

Now don't be like that.. It was Westech but they calibrate thier dyno on a regular basis. Thier Superflow is one of the best cells out there and the room pumps a ton of air. An engine in there is the best it can be.

We ran the mech water pump and fuel pump shown.

Now make a guess sucka... ;)

BA.
08-18-2007, 07:45 AM
I'll push the high side....


540 / 530 tq

CamaroAJ
08-18-2007, 08:09 AM
1hp Bob
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andrewb70
08-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Now don't be like that.. It was Westech but they calibrate thier dyno on a regular basis. Thier Superflow is one of the best cells out there and the room pumps a ton of air. An engine in there is the best it can be.

We ran the mech water pump and fuel pump shown.

Now make a guess sucka... ;)

Since its Westech I gotta go with 578hp/550tq

Andrew

jack67rs
08-18-2007, 10:46 AM
I'll say 523hp 510tq

Steve1968LS2
08-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Since its Westech I gotta go with 578hp/550tq

Andrew

Smartass :slap:

lol

We will chassis dyno the car to back up the engine dyno number.. oh and the dragstrip should show as well.

Tony_SS
08-18-2007, 11:18 AM
486/501

tripower
08-18-2007, 11:23 AM
Since its Westech I gotta go with 578hp/550tq

Andrew

So Westech is a bit "optomistic" on their dyno readings are they? :) My dad is a distribution center manager in one of the buildings next to Westech in Mira Loma. He says he sees all kinds of cool stuff going in and out and can here the rowdier pulls!

My guess is 490hp/470tq

Ralph LoGrasso
08-18-2007, 11:40 AM
I'll play:

509 HP / 547 TQ

Steve1968LS2
08-18-2007, 12:25 PM
So Westech is a bit "optomistic" on their dyno readings are they? :) My dad is a distribution center manager in one of the buildings next to Westech in Mira Loma. He says he sees all kinds of cool stuff going in and out and can here the rowdier pulls!

My guess is 490hp/470tq

I don't think it's optimistic.. I think that their cell is optimised for pulls. When the fans kick on you can barely pull the door open to go in. They have a kick ass water cir system. What happens is that an engine "is the most it can be" on it's pulls. In hindsight I guess it is "optimistic" but not in the sense that the number are inflated. They are just the best case senario. Steve Brule at Westech is also VERY good at adjusting and optimizing carbs.

They dyno a lot of engines there, but the real benefit of the dyno is tuning for AF ratio and for seeing gains and losses from part changes. We saw a big change from the dual plane to the single plane and we saw zero gain/loss from the addition of a one inch spacer.

Midwest Performance
08-18-2007, 12:56 PM
488hp 530tq

G-TX
08-18-2007, 01:30 PM
:revto9k:
510 hp/525 tq

WhiteG240
08-18-2007, 01:43 PM
426hp/450tq

airrj1
08-18-2007, 04:25 PM
513hp/505tq

Mark68
08-18-2007, 04:29 PM
520 hp / 535 tq

Kenova
08-18-2007, 04:41 PM
No un-educated guess here. I just want to hear the sucker idle :drool: .
Ken

Beige
08-18-2007, 05:02 PM
350/378 on 7 cylinders because you had a bad plug wire on cyl #8

LateNight72
08-18-2007, 05:06 PM
415hp/464tq

Project69
08-18-2007, 05:55 PM
513 hp / 529 tq

tracar91
08-18-2007, 05:56 PM
396hp/ 428 tq

But I'm a Chevy guy :)

gsxrken
08-19-2007, 12:05 PM
545HP/535TQ
That's a small cam for 408 inches and the 205s.
Please post the Dual plane w/ 750 carb numbers as well.

formula
08-19-2007, 01:57 PM
502/532, but something chunked on the balls-to-the-wall pull, so "we're certain the motor will prove itself once we've cleaned up the gouged cylinder wall and run the car on a chassis dyno" :fingersx:

steemin
08-19-2007, 04:17 PM
493hp
512 TQ
Scott

monza
08-19-2007, 05:41 PM
550hp
540TQ

Vegas69
08-19-2007, 05:41 PM
512 HP/487 ft lbs

sunkistcamaro
08-19-2007, 06:46 PM
464 Hp / 421 Tq

FScope
08-19-2007, 07:20 PM
536 hp / 508 tq

moparguy
08-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Sounds fun...maybe 499hp / 525tq

MuscleRodz
08-20-2007, 06:34 AM
498hp/555tq

69Pony
08-20-2007, 08:35 AM
565hp / 510tq from the flywheel.

TheMonkey
08-20-2007, 08:48 AM
462 / 462

mtuck
08-20-2007, 09:45 AM
521/546

paulk68
08-20-2007, 09:45 AM
468 hp / 480 tq

slowcamaro
08-20-2007, 09:47 AM
530hp / 520 tq

Scott Parkhurst
08-20-2007, 11:53 AM
538hp/528TQ

GMachineDartGT
08-20-2007, 12:54 PM
Was that on an optimistic dyno, no accessories/exhaust?

488hp/500tq.

Steve1968LS2
08-20-2007, 02:10 PM
Was that on an optimistic dyno, no accessories/exhaust?

488hp/500tq.

Open 1 3/4-inch headers.. running the mech water pump for cooling and even though we had an elec fuel pump the mech one was left installed (just pumping air)

kmcanally
08-21-2007, 04:04 AM
Cool...I guess 515hp and 540tq. I am real interested in the outcome because I have a 351w block in the garage waited to be poked and stroked. A 150 shot should put the rwhp at or near 500 which should be enough for low 11's maybe hi 10's with sticky tires?

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 09:13 AM
The contest is now closed...

The correct numbers.. rounded off was 552/530

If you add those numbers together it's 1,082

I will add up everyone's scores on all the various websites and pic the winner(s). Thanks for playing along!

Where's my calculator??? lol

The dyno graph:

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Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 09:34 AM
And we have a three way tie on this site.. you guys are KILLING me!!

We have a three way tie.. lol


545HP/535TQ
That's a small cam for 408 inches and the 205s.
Please post the Dual plane w/ 750 carb numbers as well.


I'll push the high side....
540 / 530 tq


550hp
540TQ

They were all within 12 of the actual number.. good job

I still need to check the other sites...

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 09:36 AM
538hp/528TQ

And an honorable mention to Mr. Parkhurst who had a score of 16. He beat all the guys over at Stangnet.com (who's best score was 17)

99 BUCKET
08-22-2007, 05:12 PM
oops typed answer before I finshed reading the thread

rayy
08-22-2007, 05:38 PM
what gives I posted on the first page 539/545. How about a runner up.:) :2nd:

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 05:44 PM
what gives I posted on the first page 539/545. How about a runner up.:) :2nd:

That's a total of 15 off on Torque and 13 off on HP.. or 28 :)

the guess at least has to have the hp/tq weighted properly. After all if you guessed 530hp and 552tq that would TECHNICALLY be the same number at the opposite, but it really wouldn't be a very close guess.

Still, you got closer than many people and I think you beat everyone on lateral-g..

vanzuuk1
08-22-2007, 06:18 PM
What did Gsxrken win?

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 06:32 PM
What did Gsxrken win?

I'm still scraping stuff up.. actually this site had a tie here.. so two winners from here :)

For sure a "unrated" Dukes of Hazzard (the beginning years) DVD and a company is sending me some calendars with SMOKING hot women posed on PT cars.. :D

And some t-shirts.. random stuff..

The calendar is NICE ...

BA.
08-22-2007, 06:50 PM
DUDE!!!! You're killing me! :banghead:

I guessed 540/530, just 12 off. (post 24) Parkhurst, you're outta here bud! :getout: :rotfl:


Heck I got the torque dead on!


Me wanna see hot chicks!!!
.

BA.
08-22-2007, 06:52 PM
....just giving you a hard time Steve. :) (and you too Scott P)

I realize you've got a LOT of checking to do.

DID I WIN THE ENGINE?!?!?! Bad Penny discarded parts?? Katech LS7? :)

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 09:18 PM
DUDE!!!! You're killing me! :banghead:

I guessed 540/530, just 12 off. (post 24) Parkhurst, you're outta here bud! :getout: :rotfl:


Heck I got the torque dead on!


Me wanna see hot chicks!!!
.

Well hell... when I was adding stuff up I though "dammit, I have a three way tie!!" Then I re-checked and must of looked at someone else and said "oh, I must of added wrong"

So, you are in the top three.. congrats and now I have to go dig up more swag.. I didn't really consider a three way tie on ONE site.

Congrats! You've been added to the winners..

Steve1968LS2
08-22-2007, 09:21 PM
....just giving you a hard time Steve. :) (and you too Scott P)

I realize you've got a LOT of checking to do.

DID I WIN THE ENGINE?!?!?! Bad Penny discarded parts?? Katech LS7? :)

Be happy with the hot chicks callendar.. lol

Oh, and Daisy Duke in the Dukes DVD is :cool:

Steve1968LS2
08-23-2007, 07:18 AM
545HP/535TQ
That's a small cam for 408 inches and the 205s.
Please post the Dual plane w/ 750 carb numbers as well.


I'll push the high side....
540 / 530 tq


550hp
540TQ

You can get a taste of the calendar at www.ignytion.net :drool:


In need these three members to PM me thier full name, address and t-shirt size.

Congrats guys, you out performed every other website.

XCESSIV
08-23-2007, 09:00 AM
425hp/495tq

LMDGUY
08-23-2007, 09:57 AM
NICE numbers!

Kenova
08-23-2007, 11:07 AM
NICE numbers!

Now let us hear it run!:jump:

Ken

Steve1968LS2
08-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Monza.. paging Monza... please report to the courtesy desk....

monza
08-25-2007, 10:38 PM
what ever I win ... thanks! Can't wait for the drive in Bad Penny... sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

gsxrken
09-28-2007, 07:28 PM
Steve thanks running for the contest and the stuff I just received. For the life of me I didn't know what I ordered from "Primedia". All my kids around as I opened it and then it was like the father in "you'll shoot your eye out, kid" Christmas movie, when he wins the leg-lamp, he's reads the word "fra-gil-e" and says it must be made in Italy, and the wife is horrified. Thanks again- :)

monza
09-30-2007, 06:37 PM
Steve
Many thanks, my package was sitting at my door after being away for the weekend. Great stuff thanks again!

BA.
10-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Yup, it was like Christmas! Sweet stuff! wearing some Raybestos swag now!!