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Brandon Miller
08-06-2007, 09:50 AM
Anyone know of any shops in the middle TN area that acid dip bodies?

KWIKND
08-06-2007, 03:17 PM
You don't want to acid dip a body. Acid stays in the nooks and crannys and will ruin your paint. Look for a Ready Strip. They use alkyline solution instead.
Good Luck,
Dan

MarkM66
08-06-2007, 04:51 PM
You don't want to acid dip a body. Acid stays in the nooks and crannys and will ruin your paint. Look for a Ready Strip. They use alkyline solution instead.
Good Luck,
Dan

Why doesn't the alkaline solution stay in the knocks and crannies?

LateNight72
08-06-2007, 04:57 PM
Why doesn't the alkaline solution stay in the knocks and crannies?

It does...

It's just not as harmful as acid, once dried. The slightest amount of moisture getting on the acid, once dried, will reenergize (for lack of a better term) it and it will begin wrecking havoc on the paint/metal.

-Todd

RobM
08-06-2007, 07:28 PM
I think media (not sand) blasting is a good way to go... i have heard soda blasting can cause paint problems.

I am also a big fan of air craft stripper... yes it can get into seams... so don’t let It.

tape off any thing you don’t want it to get into and strip those small areas by hand. I have found that any kind of wax and grease remover that body shops use will neutralize it and remove it once its done its job

GA350
08-07-2007, 03:57 AM
There is a place in Atlanta called Un-Paint. I have used them before to strip bolt on parts but never a whole body, they can do whole bodies though, they had several when I was there. The parts look great when you get them back, anything that's not solid metal is gone. I don't know what chemical they use, you might have to get in touch with them and see.

David Sloan
08-07-2007, 04:10 AM
There is a place in Atlanta called Un-Paint. I have used them before to strip bolt on parts but never a whole body, they can do whole bodies though, they had several when I was there. The parts look great when you get them back, anything that's not solid metal is gone. I don't know what chemical they use, you might have to get in touch with them and see.

I have used un paint years ago! an they do a good job.I think they have had problems because they did not get the body's neutralized after the stripping.
BUT as others have pointed out the stripper gets in to places you cant get it out! an it will wreck a paint job latter after its done.

GA350 welcome to the site. good to have some more Ga. members!!

trapin
08-07-2007, 04:34 AM
You don't want to acid dip a body. Acid stays in the nooks and crannys and will ruin your paint.
Dan, there may have been some isolated situations in the past but this is just not the norm when it comes to acid-dipping. Several People here have had their cars acid-dipped with no problems. I'm one of them. Andrew Borodin had his done years ago and I've not heard of him having any issues either. Even 'The Mule' was acid-dipped. The place that does it here in Michigan takes great strides to nuetralize the acid once the vehicle is removed. I have not had any issues.

jy211
08-07-2007, 04:59 AM
check out my post in the southern states area...I was gonna acid dip but found this place in FL...

http://www.autorestorationdepot.com/

HsvToolFool
08-07-2007, 03:53 PM
The people I plan to use are in Jackson, MS about
5 hours from the Tenn/Alabama border...

http://www.metalfinishings.com/

They also use non-destructive alkaline, but also do
e-coating with a zinc phosphate coat underneath.
After an e-coat, no need to worry about rust inside
rockers or nasty stripping agents leaking out later
and ruining your paint. It's been a while, but I recall
that their prices were very reasonable. But I'm glad
I also know about that Florida shop now because
they're prices also look good.

KWIKND
08-07-2007, 04:19 PM
Dan, there may have been some isolated situations in the past but this is just not the norm when it comes to acid-dipping. Several People here have had their cars acid-dipped with no problems. I'm one of them. Andrew Borodin had his done years ago and I've not heard of him having any issues either. Even 'The Mule' was acid-dipped. The place that does it here in Michigan takes great strides to nuetralize the acid once the vehicle is removed. I have not had any issues.
I guess the deciding factor would then be (just like everything) the prep work done to avoid problems. I don't think I would pick someone out of the yellow pages for something like this. I would hate to find out after the paint is layed down.
My builder has had problems. I don't know any details other than a passing comment."I would never paint another car that had been acid-dipped. Nothing but problems."
The residual acid burned off "The Mule" upon re-entry so that example does not count! LOL
Thanks
Dan

MetalWorks
04-22-2009, 08:23 PM
We do acid dipping here on the West Coast.

It's by far the most superior way of prepping anything metal for painting.

It's all the guys that don't really know about the process that gets you all worked up about this. And truth be known the "acid" part of the dipping is what stops all the issues from happening.

Guys you have to understand what compounds go into the paint used to paint your cars. Once you understand that then you'll quickly see why once removed from a classic car it's imperative that it be acid dipped.

romanss
04-23-2009, 04:48 PM
Dan, there may have been some isolated situations in the past but this is just not the norm when it comes to acid-dipping. Several People here have had their cars acid-dipped with no problems. I'm one of them. Andrew Borodin had his done years ago and I've not heard of him having any issues either. Even 'The Mule' was acid-dipped. The place that does it here in Michigan takes great strides to nuetralize the acid once the vehicle is removed. I have not had any issues.

Can you tell me what the name of the place in Michigan is ,please? Or does anyone have any reccomendations in the Buffalo area? I'd be closer to that.

Thanks,

Roman

Ron S
04-23-2009, 05:23 PM
I had one dipped several years ago,and swore I would never do that again unless I could have it dipped in some kind of sealer right after.The acid keeps working out of the seams,even after the the car was painted,a real nightmare.Ron

critter
04-23-2009, 05:39 PM
I had mine done by Redi-Strip of Jackson, MS. Not acid, alkaline followed by a phosphate finish. That's the best way to make sure you've killed the rust. The down side is that it also take out every bit of the seam sealer. You'll be amazed at how much seam sealer there is in a car when you have to replace it.

Charley Lillard
04-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Dan, there may have been some isolated situations in the past but this is just not the norm when it comes to acid-dipping. Several People here have had their cars acid-dipped with no problems. I'm one of them. Andrew Borodin had his done years ago and I've not heard of him having any issues either. Even 'The Mule' was acid-dipped. The place that does it here in Michigan takes great strides to nuetralize the acid once the vehicle is removed. I have not had any issues.


Yes the Mule was dipped, E-Coated and it shows signs of still having acid trapped in some of the seams. The entire process was covered in Popular Hotrodding. I would not acid dip another car. Camaro X and Jackass were both media blasted.

Restomod
04-23-2009, 06:05 PM
I was told of "Dry
Ice" is being used to strip,anyone seen/had this done?

critter
04-23-2009, 06:07 PM
10+ years on mine and no evidence of any problems. Perhaps they didn't do something right?

trapin
04-24-2009, 08:42 AM
Yes the Mule was dipped, E-Coated and it shows signs of still having acid trapped in some of the seams. The entire process was covered in Popular Hotrodding. I would not acid dip another car. Camaro X and Jackass were both media blasted.
Sorry to hear that Charley. I guess every car is different. Mine has had paint on it for 2 years and I've not had a single issue arise. I don't think Andrew has either, although I could be wrong. I'll say this though....the acid dipping process is getting mighty expensive. 7 years ago my shell was $1800 to dip. I don't want to guess what it is today.

Roman, the place that did mine is; International Paint Stripping in Romulus, Michigan (734)942-0500.

JamesJ
04-24-2009, 12:25 PM
There is also a place in Jackson MS, cant remember the name.

23corner_blitz
04-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Sorry to hear that Charley. I guess every car is different. Mine has had paint on it for 2 years and I've not had a single issue arise. I don't think Andrew has either, although I could be wrong. I'll say this though....the acid dipping process is getting mighty expensive. 7 years ago my shell was $1800 to dip. I don't want to guess what it is today.

Roman, the place that did mine is; International Paint Stripping in Romulus, Michigan (734)942-0500.

Did the co. change to Redi-Coat?

http://www.redi-coat.com/index.html




E-Coating Price List

Hood * 150.00
Hood Hinges 30.00
Fender 100.00
Valve Covers 30.00
Inner Fender 50.00
Tailgate 125.00
Valance 30.00
K-Frame 75.00
Rad. Support 75.00
Crossmember 30.00
Door 125.00
Cycle Fender 30.00
Deck Lid* 125.00
Intake Manifold 40.00
Control Arm 20.00
Backing Plates 20.00
Oil Pan 20.00
Running Board 50.00
Sub Frame 200.00
Truck Bed Side 250.00
Coil Spring 15.00
Truck Bed 1000.00
Frame 800.00
Axel Hsg. 125.00
Wheel 30.00
Wheel (alum) 50.00
Body 13’-6” 2500.00
Body over 13’-6” Call
* Additional cost may occur on these parts.

trapin
04-29-2009, 05:52 AM
You know I think they did or Redi-Coat is a side business of theirs. Interesting. Nice to know the process is still around. Mine was originally done by a company called Carponents but they pretty much just picked up and delivered the vehicles (essentially doing all the leg work for you).

$2500 bones to do a shell like mine. Wow. Not much of a deal anymore.

Sparky67
04-29-2009, 12:42 PM
I was told of "Dry
Ice" is being used to strip,anyone seen/had this done?

The process is called FlashJet, it was developed to strip paint off aircraft. When I worked for the Navy back in the late 90's, it was used at Naval aviation Depot Jacksonville. The process is very expensive and I haven't heard of anyone using in the automotive stripping industry. http://www.flashtech-inc.com/Process.htm


Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

Sparky67
04-29-2009, 12:50 PM
You know I think they did or Redi-Coat is a side business of theirs. Interesting. Nice to know the process is still around. Mine was originally done by a company called Carponents but they pretty much just picked up and delivered the vehicles (essentially doing all the leg work for you).

$2500 bones to do a shell like mine. Wow. Not much of a deal anymore.

The bodies are dipped at International Paint Stripping, and the building next door to them is Redi-Coat. Which does the e-coating. I had my shell done there back in 2005, but my parts was done at a local company in Dayton. The local company quality is far superior to Redi-coat. Although, I think most people's problems is not with the stripping process, but with the preparation.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro