Lee steering box!

[pitts64]

I just swapped out my 12 to 1 AGR box (https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif) for a Lee box specked by Mark Savitske at SC&C. http://www.scandc.com/ (http://www.scandc.com/)
The Lee box is such a fantastic box compared the the AGR.
Now my car centers so well I can cruise the parkway at 80-90 and take my hand off the wheel.
It has that terrific bounce back and feel much like a manual box but 12 to 1 faster! And it was only a few bucks more.
Mark Savitske has us B body guys covered.https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif


Thanks Marc!!

[ponchopwr70]

I have the same box from sc+c but I have an A-body car. That box along with my 14" lecarra made a huge difference. Its one of the best things I've done to my car.

[syborg tt]

Just an FYI - I had a brand new AGR box for my project and ended up selling it to a friend. Long story very short Al put it in his truck and it started leaking like a siv. We called AGR and they said they the seals went bad from sitting and that we would have to ship it back to them and give them a check for $150.00 and pay shipping both way's.

They have to one of the worst company's that i have ever delt with. I have also talked with many other syclone /s10 owners and all have had similar problems with just as bad customer service.

In the end i did buy a Flaming Rivers box and but was seriously considering a Lee box also. Both of which I think are great companies to work with.

AGR = po po in my book

[6'9"Witha69]

:secret: Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box

[syborg tt]

:secret: Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box. Go with the Lee Box

:secret: another secret - avoid AGR - avoid AGR - avoid AGR

[TitoJones]

How long have I being saying this now? 3 years?

You want a rack feel in a box? ATS 670 gear box built by Tom @ Lee Manufacturing is the way to go.

Tyler

[Marcus SC&C]

Tyler,yep you were right all along. :) Tom Lee and his custom valved steering gear really are THE best. :worship: Mark SC&C

[pitts64]

Thanks for the tip Mark!

[Skip Fix]

Yep the AGR box I out in my 97 truck is stiff to the right and less stiff to the left. Their tech line came up with all kinds of reasons besides the box it would do that. Gotten used to it now.

Funny thing the tractor I have a Kubota has so much assist when I get back in the truck it after using it for a couple of hours feels like it has manual steering at first.

[TD509EFI]

Does Lee still do rebuilds? I was hoping to have them go over my 79 Z box; I e-mailed them a few months ago, but never heard anything back.
These new boxes might be a better way to go. Any difference in feel between the 800 or the 670? I always thought that the 800 should be used in heavier cars, such as my Camaro, but if the smaller box has the same feel and strength, I might get that instead.

John

[nowukno]

Does Lee still do rebuilds? I was hoping to have them go over my 79 Z box; I e-mailed them a few months ago, but never heard anything back.
These new boxes might be a better way to go. Any difference in feel between the 800 or the 670? I always thought that the 800 should be used in heavier cars, such as my Camaro, but if the smaller box has the same feel and strength, I might get that instead.

John
Yes they still do rebuilds,They can match your pump to your box also to help it run cooler,I heard Tom had a stroke A while back but he's ok and back in the shop..Im about 20 mins south of them

[Karch]

Im about 20 mins south of them

Sure you are...and you own a helicopter, or drive on the shoulders at 95+ :drive2: (too much traffic). :)

[nowukno]

Sure you are...and you own a helicopter, or drive on the shoulders at 95+ :drive2: (too much traffic). :)

Ok Ok,on a sunday night drive Im 20 mins. out from them..

[Tig Man]

For years and years!!

[Steve1968LS2]

I wonder if he can help my Ford system??? hmmmmm

[CarlC]

Tom is the best there is. I picked up my new pump from him last month. He could have stuck me with a $300 pump, and I would have paid it, but he said no, and charged me all of $85.

Lee's is a throwback in time, and that's one of the reasons why I like dealing with them. He is all about hands-on and practical approach. A phone call is by far the best method, and don't be afraid to call early.

[TD509EFI]

I just ordered my Lee steering box from Marcus at SC&C this week after a great discussion over the phone. I have heard and read about Lees'steering boxes for many years; other than knowing he produces one of the best steering boxes out there, I really didn't know too much about him. Thanks to Marcus, I now know a lot more about Lee and many other aspects of steering and suspension. It was a real pleasure talking to him, could have chatted all day if given half the chance. I look forward to receiving the box, and if anyone else is thinking of purchasing any steering or suspension parts, it's well worth your time to give Marcus a call!

John

[OH6 G35]

LEE :worship: :worship: :worship:

[pitts64]

I e-mailed AGR and told them I want a complete refund. I haven't heard anything from them yet.

Skip, they pulled the same BS on me and I fell for it!

[NW S/D]

Anyone have a phone # for Lee? I need to have the orignal box on my 73 T/A rebuilt.
Thanks Jeff.

[TD509EFI]

If he's available, Lee can be reached at 818-768-0371. E-mail:[email protected]

John

[NW S/D]

Thank you!
Jeff.

[MrQuick]

Does anyone have or can take a picture of a Lee box next to a GM power steering box. Like to see if it can be the option to fix a header clearence problem. thanks in advance.

[Gary Wells]

Which of the Lee boxes would be best for my G body Buick ('87 Turbo Buick)

[CarlC]

Lee does not make a different box, he rebuilds them as needed. The envelope dimensions will be the same.

[MrQuick]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Hi Carl.

Im looking for a picture of a 670 box next to a GM ps box. Trying to determine (praying) if the inlet and outlet ports are closer to the frame. My headers suck big time.

[65protourgto]

You know on my stock frame i had a AGR and had no problems amazingly. then again I followed those directions to a T, but promptly sold the whole frame out from under the car.

[CarlC]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Hi Carl.

Im looking for a picture of a 670 box next to a GM ps box. Trying to determine (praying) if the inlet and outlet ports are closer to the frame. My headers suck big time.

Maybe a little, and I do mean little. I can take some measurements if needed, but the 670 was basically designed to fit in the same envelope as the old box without significant changes to the surrounding systems.

[6'9"Witha69]

Last time I talked to someone at Lee they said it was all in the area around the bottom shank, not in the upper portion of the box at all.

[MrQuick]

Thank you Carl,
I think im going to have to prop one up next to each other.
Is this the same type of box you have? https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[staged67gspwr]

Whats everyone replacing for there stock PS pump with?im looking at the Lee box but what do i replace my stock PS Pump with?

Thanks

[Marcus SC&C]

You can replace your pump with something else if you want to but it`s not necessary (provided your pump is working 100%). What IS critical is that the box you use is valved for the pump you`re using. The best box in the world valved for a 1967 pump won`t work very well at all hooked to a late model Series II GM pump from a rack from a rack and pinion car. Their volumes and pressure curves are totally different. Use a pump that`s in good working order,match it to the box and you`re good to go. If you want to usea more modern box because of easier packaging with a remote reservoir,more modern seals and fittings etc. that`s cool just,again make sure the box and pump match. Lee will built and valve a box for any PS pump you can think of. We`ve had them build some really strange combinations already that worked fantastic.
BTW due to a health problem Tom Lee is only in the shop a few hours a day right now so he may be a little hard to get a hold of. He`s doing well and should be back up to speed soon. They`re still shipping custom boxes for us in less than a week though. Mark SC&C

[staged67gspwr]

Hey Marcus,what i want to do is get one of these quick ratio boxes but keep my pump stock looking in the stock spot,i dont want to relocate and run remote resevoirs and stuff like that,what do you suggest i do?i will be contacting you about the suspension parts we spoke about i got your email.:cheers:

Thanks

[7TSS]

I just bought a Detroit Speed (DSE) box for my Chevelle. Would the Lee box be significantly better, or should I just stick to what I have?

[nowukno]

I took my 12.1 800 box and pump to Lee and they put that magic touch to it now it feels like a totally differnt car,real responsive nice road feel and slightly more effort I love it..and the best part is it was all done for $500 and thats with them welding there new hipo rag joint on to my steering shaft for me..

[GetMore]

I just bought a Detroit Speed (DSE) box for my Chevelle. Would the Lee box be significantly better, or should I just stick to what I have?
There is a good chance that it is done by Lee and just rebadged.

[Marcus SC&C]

George,we`ll just order the box valved for the stock pump then. No sweat. Just install and enjoy. :) Mark SC&C

[TheRoaringEagle]

I'm sorry, but I've been interested in the Lee box for a bit, just had no time to research until now. I will call in the morning if I have time but I was wondering if there are any powered boxes available? I checked the ATS, SC&C, and leespowersteering.com sites but they all look like manual boxes. Thanks!

[TheRoaringEagle]

Oops, sorry... I guess my last post just shows how much I know about power boxes. It's so small though! If I understand correctly from previous threads, the 800 box is the same size as a stock 67 box right? And the 670 is just compact... I'll just call someone tommorrow

[Marcus SC&C]

Correct,the 800 series box is the size that came in most GM cars. Because it`s more common,it`s more affordable. The 670 is a bit smaller and about 6 lbs. lighter though. On a a 3,800lb. street car that may not be a huge deal but on a race car or and early Camaro that needs just a little more header clearance here and there it`s perfect. Heck,even on the 3,800lb. car,taking 6 lbs. off here and 3lbs. off there etc. is what makes them 3,400lb. cars. :) Mark SC&C

[6'9"Witha69]

Correct,the 800 series box is the size that came in most GM cars. Because it`s more common,it`s more affordable. The 670 is a bit smaller and about 6 lbs. lighter though. On a a 3,800lb. street car that may not be a huge deal but on a race car or and early Camaro that needs just a little more header clearance here and there it`s perfect. Heck,even on the 3,800lb. car,taking 6 lbs. off here and 3lbs. off there etc. is what makes them 3,400lb. cars. :) Mark SC&COld racers saying "worry about the ounces and the pounds will come." In this case, 6 of them.

[TheRoaringEagle]

Mark, can you help me match a pump w/ remote reservoir and a box together? I'll contact you when I get some moneys.

[Marcus SC&C]

Nick,very true!

T.R.E.,certainly,no problem at all. In fact we can do a bunch of different versions. :) Mark SC&C

[pitts64]

Hi Mark,
Have you come up with anything on the upper control arms?
For those guys who don't know, Mark has taken on the challenge of engineering a set of adjustable upper control arms for my 64 B body Pontiac Bonneville.

Every time I take my car out I can't help but wonder how much better it will handle. My 64 Pontiac (last year) has NASCAR roots built in its suspension and steering. I have a photo of Fireball Roberts cruising at 150 mph in a 62 Catalina with his arm out the window!

[Marcus SC&C]

We`re working on it. I`ll drop ya an e mail and fill you in. Mark SC&C