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69Nova
06-25-2007, 08:02 AM
Ok so I just decided to start a thread that I will update with autocross pictures. Instead of making new threads everytime I'll just add to this one. Also if anyone else autocrosses there car post pictures here too!

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This event went great. We got 6 runs, which let me really work on me. I was only two seconds off my buddy in his S2000.

My times were- 58.691 57.669 55.587 54.622+1 54.726 54.122

As you can see from my times I defintly took it slow and gradualy drove the car faster and faster(but not much faster).

I know that other people on this site have to autocross there car. So post up about your experience and pictures if you have some.

69Nova
06-25-2007, 05:18 PM
Anyone???

David Pozzi
06-25-2007, 06:01 PM
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Here's my wife autocrossing her 73 camaro.
She ran at a Lotus Club event and beat most of them! :pat:

David

parsonsj
06-25-2007, 06:29 PM
From last month:

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Damn True
06-25-2007, 08:12 PM
If you guys have video this thread could be a very useful tool for introducing people to auto-x.

69Nova
06-25-2007, 08:21 PM
David- Mary's Camaro looks awsome. Defintly some cool pictures. How many people run CP in your area? I have run with three diffrent clubs and have had one other guy in my class.

John next time you go you gotta let me know.

mpozzi
06-26-2007, 10:20 AM
The midwest and west coast have the best of the best for Solo II C Prepared. While my car does okay, it's mainly pro-touring and a street car, and isn't "prepared" to what the rules allow. On a 40+ second course, I'm usually 2 seconds behind the tube-frame, race rubbered, and lightened cars that can win at Nationals. I'm giving them about a 1,000 lbs and at least 200 RWHP, and there isn't much available for tires in a 17" diameter wheel so I run the Kumho V710's.

Locally, I have a great time and enjoy running in the class. As for going to Nationals in Topeka with this particular car . . . no way!! A couple of years ago, the Nationals CP class had almost 65 entrants (a record). Last year, I think there were 48 or so. It's a very popular class. At the Nationals Tour this year in Atwater, I had six in my CPL class. Here's a link to the results and most of the entrants in CP could compete for the win at Nationals (several are already National Champions). http://www.scca.org/Event/Event.asp?IdS=40CE01-21F27A0&Id=6377

I have other pics and I like True's thoughts on this thread being a place for providing input for new, fledgling autocrossers. It's a great sport and offers a place to "haul the mail" without getting a ticket or in an accident. I encourage anyone that enjoys spirited driving to bring your car to an event and compete.

Don't worry about turning the fast time of day but work on being smooth and transitioning well in the corners and slaloms. Learn your car and then make modifications to improve what you already have.

Cheers and good thread,
Mary Pozzi

Damn True
06-26-2007, 10:24 AM
...and most of all Mary, unless there is a flash flood or tornado at the auto-x site you are not going to hurt the car. There won't be another car within hundreds of feet of yours and there is nothing to bump into other than a tiny rubber cone.

There is more risk in driving your car to a Goodguys show than running the pi$$ out of it at an auto-x.

69Nova
06-26-2007, 10:49 AM
On a 40+ second course, I'm usually 2 seconds behind the tube-frame, race rubbered, and lightened cars that can win at Nationals. I'm giving them about a 1,000 lbs and at least 200 RWHP, and there isn't much available for tires in a 17" diameter wheel so I run the Kumho V710's.

Thats awsome Mary! Your not that far off for having a street car.


Don't worry about turning the fast time of day but work on being smooth and transitioning well in the corners and slaloms.

Thats exactly what I did and I consistantly turned quicker times. I didnt go any faster I just was way smoother than I have ever been. Also I started working on finding braking points which helped too.

mpozzi
06-26-2007, 10:50 AM
...and most of all Mary, unless there is a flash flood or tornado at the auto-x site you are not going to hurt the car. There won't be another car within hundreds of feet of yours and there is nothing to bump into other than a tiny rubber cone.

There is more risk in driving your car to a Goodguys show than running the pi$$ out of it at an auto-x.

That pretty much sums things up but don't tell that to the guy who loaned his buddy his Porsche GT3 for his final run. The buddy inadvertently mistook the brake for the clutch, or vice-versa, at the finish lane, and didn't stop until he hit a couple of parked cars. The photos are gruesome (three cars probably totalled including the Porsche) and it will be an insurance nightmare. While this is rare (I've only heard of two major incidents such as this one in my 30+ years involvement in Solo II), it can happen. I do not recommend parking your cars near the track exit lane . . .

What will occur is tire wear. Lots of it and rapidly. If anyone plans on autocrossing a lot, get another set of wheels and tires solely dedicated to this sport. If your car is still street driven, your everyday rubber will last it's normal life. And if you do compete on your street rubber, make sure you up tire pressures accordingly. I raise them at least 10 psi over that used for street pressures, and then adjust for suspension tuning (understeer/oversteer/track surface) from there.

The rest of the drivetrain shouldn't suffer too much stress but do check "nuts and bolts" at least once a year. Especially if you have aftermarket suspension and chassis parts installed as they can loosen and change their adjustment/alignment settings. The creaking and snapping sound I heard at the last event was my solid body bushing bolts loosening. Two of the four (the front ones were fine) had about 15-20 lb/ft of torque when checked. We also found that both of the transmission mount bolts had left on vacation. One didn't go far as it was still wedged between the mount and the crossmember but the other was probably languishing somewhere on some road someplace else. The transmission ear threads were cleaned, dried, and new bolts installed with Loctite. And yes, they will be checked periodically.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

69Nova
06-26-2007, 10:51 AM
Mods is it possible this could be made a sticky????

mpozzi
06-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Thats awsome Mary! Your not that far off for having a street car.

Thats exactly what I did and I consistantly turned quicker times. I didnt go any faster I just was way smoother than I have ever been. Also I started working on finding braking points which helped too.

My strategy (based on three timed runs) is to make my first run for education. I want to learn the track surface, the driving line, if it drives like it walked (always walk the course and have it memorized in your mind BEFORE you drive it), and any irregularities I didn't notice when I walked it. Remember, the pylons and corners come up a lot faster when you're behind the wheel.

My second run is much quicker and I take the information from my first run, process it, and go from there. If I need to apex a corner differently, I do it on this run. I join several parts of the course together as what I do on one corner can drastically affect the subsequent sections of the course. I hope to stay clean and not hit any cones.

For my last run, I only work on the sections of the course that need it. For instance, I will take a slalom and clean it up. Or work on car placement or braking so I can exit a corner under better power. I take the good from my second run and leave that parts of the course alone. Luckily, I don't hit many cones (rarely are my times "dirty") and since I typed this, I'll probably hit every cone from here on out . . . JINX!!

Again, smoothness is the key. I was at an event last weekend and there was a very cool '69 Camaro that could have turned some very good times. The guy driving left a lot on the table as he kept showboating with wheel spin and tire smoke, and just abused the hell out of the car. Those in the know just shook our heads and I wanted to take the car from him and give it a good home . . . yeah, I wish!! And his friend in a fourth-gen was even worse with the abuse. We won't even go there . . .

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

69Nova
06-26-2007, 11:11 AM
On walking the course I walk it untill I can recall everything in my head. This past event a few guys didnt take a dip(plus the pavemnet was very rough) into consideration and ended up spining up into some bushes/trees, one guy taped a tree.

Damn True
06-26-2007, 11:19 AM
That pretty much sums things up but don't tell that to the guy who loaned his buddy his Porsche GT3 for his final run. The buddy inadvertently mistook the brake for the clutch, or vice-versa, at the finish lane, and didn't stop until he hit a couple of parked cars.


Mea Culpa Mea Culpa.

I should have said, "Unless you loan your car to a moron........"

Why anyone would hand over a GT3 (or a Miata for that matter) to someone who is unfamiliar with the car and let them race it (even in an environment as benign as an auto-x) is beyond me.

mpozzi
06-26-2007, 11:24 AM
On walking the course I walk it untill I can recall everything in my head. This past event a few guys didnt take a dip(plus the pavemnet was very rough) into consideration and ended up spining up into some bushes/trees, one guy taped a tree.

Sounds like the course designer left the safety requirements back at home that day. Very poor course design for that to even be a possibility for an OC, or off-course, excursion. A tree . . . ???

Autocross sites are becoming fewer and fewer due to the insurance requirements and potential for liability. We love our sport and don't need ANY cars damaged because of negligence on the part of a course designer. Autocrossing needs to be kept out of the news and not percieved as anything harmful to person(s) or property (either a car or to the site we're playing on).

Glad to hear you paid attention when you walked the course and didn't fall prey to the dip. Out here, we run at the same site where the 49er's play and there's lots of undulations in the parking lot. The course designers plan accordingly as getting a car airborne means it's unbalanced. When that car comes down to earth, it will usually go in the direction it was going when it left the ground and then turn where the front wheels are pointed. It's a tricky site and because my exhaust is very low, I don't run there.

You'll do fine with the sport and work gradually on improving your times with good driving.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

69Nova
06-26-2007, 11:33 AM
I dont have any pictures of the area I described but here is a picture of a vette off course...

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David Pozzi
06-26-2007, 10:36 PM
Some video, sorry it's so jerky, but that's what happens when they convert the file to .flv
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69Nova
06-27-2007, 05:14 AM
David or Mary what are popular cars in CP? I'm trying to decide what I want to build for a autox only car and I really like the class.

Also if you know of any good autocross websites to checkout please post them up.

mpozzi
06-27-2007, 11:02 AM
The Fox-bodies Mustangs are very popular and do well in CP. Check out Maier Racing (they're located in Hayward, CA) and there's some good autocross footage on their site. I think it's www.maierracing.com (http://www.maierracing.com) but google it if this doesn't work. Mike Maier (Bill's son) is incredible and an excellent driver.

For starters, get the current Solo II rulebook as it will become your Bible for this sport. It's online and you can download the sections you need, or you can buy one for about $20 directly from SCCA. There are weight penalties for tube-frame cars and weight allowances for V6 engines. Some of those V6 engined F-bodies are fast . . . there are two that can easily dominate CP and both are here on the west coast.

Unfortunately, you'll also be looking at a tow vehicle and trailer if you get really serious with CP or even a Street Prepared car. The modifications it takes to be even remotely competitive will take the car off the street very fast.

E Street Prepared, or ESP, is one category down from Prepared and you should be able to change most of the suspension, wheels and tires, a little of the engine, add a good exhaust, and be competitive out of the box. While it's not Prepared, the level of competition is just as fierce as CP is. Out here in CA, some of the ESP cars turn the same times as CP cars do. Most are still street driven as well. Again, get the SCCA Solo II rule book to make sure what you do is legal for the class you run in.

Cheers and keep on this thread,
Mary Pozzi

eville
06-27-2007, 11:08 AM
Great thread, I'm hooked! Just joined the SCCA and can't wait to get out to some events by this fall. For you SF Bay folks I just found this site... http://www.baautox.com/forum/index.php

69Nova
06-27-2007, 11:43 AM
Funny you mention Maier Racing, I just found them today. I was checking out youtube.com and saw a video of there yellow fox body. I guess I'll probly start looking into early fox bodies. I was planing on ordering a rule book friday. On the tow vehicle I am getting a new bigger truck later this year and I already have a trailer. Thanks for all the info and help.

The one truley awsome thing about autocross is the people. So far I have yet to meet anyone I didnt like. Everyone is very helpfull and just want you to have the most fun and do as good as possible.

69Nova
06-27-2007, 04:52 PM
I found my calling. I gotta have a car this serious.

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Damn True
06-27-2007, 07:18 PM
Wait'll you see the CP Corvettes!

David Pozzi
06-28-2007, 08:27 AM
I found my calling. I gotta have a car this serious.

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Ask Mary about what it's like driving that car, she has!!!

Damn True
06-28-2007, 08:51 AM
Check out photos here:

B & C Prepared:
http://www.americanauto-x.com/gallery/prepmod.asp

These are my favorite, BSP Vintage:
http://www.americanauto-x.com/gallery/bspv.asp

69Nova
06-28-2007, 09:40 AM
Ask Mary about what it's like driving that car, she has!!!

Mary whats it like driving that car?!?!?

mpozzi
06-28-2007, 10:53 AM
Ask Mary about what it's like driving that car, she has!!!

It's probably the best handling car I've ever driven and it's like a big slot car. Frank Stagnaro owns it and did most of the prep work himself and has owned the Mustang (no, it's not a real GT350) since 1968 or so. He's autocrossed it since the early '70's if I remember correctly. Very competitive CP car and it was very easy to drive. Just point, shoot, and steer around cones. The Mustang didn't feel "big" and drove "small."

It's been 25 years since I first drove that car (man, I feel OLD!!!) and it's a completely different car now. Back in '82, it still had the warmed over 289 and OEM configured suspension (leafs, etc.) but now everything's fully adjustable and coil-over, plus the engine's built to the limit of the rules. Remote brake reservoirs, lightened chassis, the works. For CP, the rules have changed to allow tube-frame cars (10% weight added for penalty), V6 cars can run around 2500 lbs, and most of the V8's are between 2800-3000 lbs. These are now specialty cars that have had lots of good technology and serious coin spent on them.

Frank flirted with the CP championship title many times before he finally won!!! Back in 1982, he should have won hands-down but a pesky pylon cost him the title. Since then, the Mustang has many CP and CPL championships with several drivers. I won twice in the car and Frank's significant other, Barbara Ogg, has a couple CPL wins as well. Great car that is easy to be driven well!!

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

69Nova
08-26-2007, 02:44 PM
Just to bring this thread back to life I figured I'd post a video of one of my autocross runs today. We got six runs in (the video in run two).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qobfnj5NyY

Edit: I added another to youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vsGa2-M6BI

69Nova
08-27-2007, 10:24 AM
I found some pictures of my car from yesterday on the internet.

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Only other guy in my class!

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mpozzi
08-27-2007, 03:19 PM
Okay Andrew . . . we are going to take up a collection to get you some nicer numbers and class designation. Or send you to art school so you can use Painter's Tape so it's more pleasing to the eye. Just kidding but it really looks professional to have good magnetics on the sides of the car. In a pinch, get the magnetic material directly from your local sign maker and cut out numbers yourself. Spray paint them using the flexible interior paint and you're good to go.

www.solotime.com (http://www.solotime.com) has a vast selection of numbers and kits. They're not that expensive and you can choose colors, type fonts, and sizes. Minimum size for autocrossing should be 10" but I recommend 12" for best visibility.

Congrats on your autocrossing and keep 'em coming. There's also a monthly magazine, North American Pylon, that has most of the nation's events in it. Great reference material as it also has the upcoming events. I think a yearly subscription is $24.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

MrQuick
08-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Good stuff Andrew...they run SoloI up near you? gotta try that too!


Hey, if anyone knows...whats Rick Brown been up to? https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

69Nova
08-28-2007, 04:31 AM
I'll look into it.

69Nova
08-28-2007, 04:39 AM
Okay Andrew . . . we are going to take up a collection to get you some nicer numbers and class designation. Or send you to art school so you can use Painter's Tape so it's more pleasing to the eye. Just kidding but it really looks professional to have good magnetics on the sides of the car. In a pinch, get the magnetic material directly from your local sign maker and cut out numbers yourself. Spray paint them using the flexible interior paint and you're good to go.

www.solotime.com (http://www.solotime.com) has a vast selection of numbers and kits. They're not that expensive and you can choose colors, type fonts, and sizes. Minimum size for autocrossing should be 10" but I recommend 12" for best visibility.

Congrats on your autocrossing and keep 'em coming. There's also a monthly magazine, North American Pylon, that has most of the nation's events in it. Great reference material as it also has the upcoming events. I think a yearly subscription is $24.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

LOL! Yes I need magnets bad. I think I found a local place that will make me some numbers like the red car for a good price. But art school does sound fun....... LOL

vanzuuk1
08-28-2007, 04:07 PM
Car looks great Andy. Keep this thread going , its awesome.

NovaPwr
08-28-2007, 04:35 PM
Well, I have recently been taking the Nova to the Central Pennsylvania Regions autocross events held at the Mid-State Airport facility. It has been a total blast. Never tried anything other than drag racing in my 50 years and this has been the most fun in a car ( well almost the most fun) I have ever had while driving! The car was basically the drag race style until I stumbled onto this forum and with all the info I have got here and changes I have made it does all right at the auto-x. Just thought I would put a few pics here with Andrews.

Dave

vanzuuk1
08-28-2007, 04:54 PM
Dave, that car will look great at pocono. In october.

69Nova
08-28-2007, 05:07 PM
Thanks Dirk.

Dave your car looks awsome.


It has been a total blast. Never tried anything other than drag racing in my 50 years and this has been the most fun in a car ( well almost the most fun) I have ever had while driving! The car was basically the drag race style

That quote is exactly why I try and get people to come with me to a autocross. I got a few of my friends and one of my friends dad to come out and try and and now they never miss a event with me. We all bring stuff to share and help each other out. It's a ton of fun. I recently got my dad to come to this last event and watch and now he is hooked. Were on the hunt for a cheap car so I can really get competitive and go to bigger events(my goal is to reach nationals one day).

LeadSSled
08-28-2007, 06:40 PM
I run my modified Impala SS in the Street Modified class here in the East TN Region of the SCCA. At 4200 lbs, it is like bringing a knife to a gunfight, but it sure is a lot of fun! Here are a few pics. I'll try to post a little video up later.

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LeadSSled
08-28-2007, 06:57 PM
This video is from 2004 when my car had a stock motor with only "Bolt on" mods:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS1TI05Pi2c

This video is from 2 years ago, also with the bolt-on motor, at a "high speed autocross" on a 1/4-mile oval. It is a little fun compilation that a buddy put together for me. I was killing some cones that day.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDXI5tEj8fE

This video is from earlier this year. The car now has a 500+ HP 385 CID stroker LT1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcyCKVmMBHk

This video is also of a "high speed autocross", but with the new stroker motor. I see 80+ mph on the back straight at these events:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/80d9e3ab-4437-4df9-8160-98ed0172c3bc.htm

MrQuick
09-01-2007, 12:27 AM
I'll look into it. you'll get hooked....fast
http://youtube.com/watch?v=paClRcT39HY

01badz28
10-31-2007, 09:17 AM
Thought I'd bring this one back from the dead.

I run my 2001 Camaro with the ETR region in Knoxville with Terry and (sometimes) Tony B. Car runs SM due to subframe connectors and aftermarket LCAs, otherwise its a shock / spring / sway bar car on R-compounds. Motor is a stock LS1 with the exception of an air lid, cat back, and LS7 clutch.

Here are some pics from RTHIII:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/10/20070914_00006-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/10/rthautox058-1.jpg

Getting greedy at 411 last year:

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69Nova
10-31-2007, 10:27 AM
Car looks good. I bet its a blast to drive around the cones. I love the last picture.

vanzuuk1
10-31-2007, 02:27 PM
The pass in the grass!

Damn True
10-31-2007, 02:30 PM
I think he's passing something alright, but it isn't another car.

01badz28
10-31-2007, 03:38 PM
Car looks good. I bet its a blast to drive around the cones. I love the last picture. Thanks for the compliments, it is a pretty fun car to drive.
I think he's passing something alright, but it isn't another car. Slick (mostly) tires + wet grass + pushing too hard makes for some interesting moments!

1FstChevy
11-01-2007, 08:19 AM
WooHoo, nice thread we have going here. My buddy and I have attended a few AutoX events this year and are both joining SCCA at the begining of 08'.

I also took my Apollo for a little Auto-X practice this last weekend, and boy if anyone of you with Novas know how saggy those X-Body leaf springs become after 30 years it was quite a show in the turns, the tires were deffinitly eating it in the turns but had quite a bit of fun.

After we pulled the cones up to go home you could tell exactly where the course was, all because of my Buick! My buddies car only left one set of marks from hard braking after he over shot a turn!!!

ullose2
11-01-2007, 01:51 PM
Here is a picture of my chevelle at my first autocross at 411 (the place where ledssleds videos were). I have autocrossed it once more at 411 right before it went to dirt. I have have since gotten 93 LX and i have to run Street Mod because of the engine mods and such. I run with the middle tennesse region SCCA at the nashville superspeedway. I am using the mustang primarily to learn to drive and hopefully will have the chevelle back out next year to try and be at least a little competitive. I always have a blast and have learned so much from the events I have attended.

David Pozzi
11-04-2007, 03:20 PM
I just made this thread a sticky, so it will appear at the top of the forum section instead of just below the sticky threads. Just a heads up on it being in a different location.

David

69Nova
11-05-2007, 09:03 PM
Cool!

2g72
12-06-2007, 06:04 AM
Wow I just lost a good hour of typing to the bulletin board message gods.....that angers me, I will now abbreviate my posting:

First: Nice Nova man! Those are sweet looking cars.

Second: Here is a video of my Camaro running.....(no engine / braking / steering work has been done to the car, just suspension, differential, transmission (T56).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu5KRBqrOyY


That was only the second time I had been out and Im absolutely addicted....I have disease. The other thing I'm addicted to is COMPETITION. Which now that Im trying to join the two has brought up quite a pickle.....


Third: Question for the seasoned autocrossers / club racers out there:

What does it take to competitive in C Prepared on the national level?

Judging by what I have seen, no road going car is going to be able to compete on that level in C Prepared?

I absolutely refuse to have a car dedicated solely to racing at this point in my life....Which leads me to the unevitable requirement of selling my car (which I have already tried and isn't going so well) and buying something that can compete in Stock for awhile and been driven daily....then move along to other classes later / turn it into a club racer.....


Thanks In Advance,

Chuck Mamich

mpozzi
12-06-2007, 04:27 PM
Third: Question for the seasoned autocrossers / club racers out there:

What does it take to competitive in C Prepared on the national level?

Judging by what I have seen, no road going car is going to be able to compete on that level in C Prepared?

I absolutely refuse to have a car dedicated solely to racing at this point in my life....Which leads me to the unevitable requirement of selling my car (which I have already tried and isn't going so well) and buying something that can compete in Stock for awhile and been driven daily....then move along to other classes later / turn it into a club racer.....


Thanks In Advance,

Chuck Mamich

Hi Chuck,

It all depends on what level of competition you're going to be satisfied with. For C Prepared, it will take a specialty-build car to be competitive at the National level. The Ankeny Camaro (V6, 2600 lbs, built to the limit of the rules) was advertised for $40K in Sports Car (SCCA periodical) and I think it sold on eBay (not sure how much). And this car finished only in the TOP FIVE at Nationals.

At a Regional or local level, you can take a street car and do okay. You won't be in contention for TTOD or possibly even a Top Ten time of day but will have fun and get some good competition. Again, your expectation is what's essential to doing well and feeling comfortable about C Prepared.

CP is all about power-to-weight. The majority of these cars are tube-frame, have lightweight engines (V6 or V8), adjustable coil-over suspension, racing slicks, and have been put on a strict diet. They're not street cars. As you're not willing (nor should you be as you have a nice car) to strip your current Camaro to National CP trim, step down and run it Regionally or locally. As you're still a relative novice with Solo II, give yourself a season to become familiar with the events and different types of track surfaces. All of this becomes very important the higher up you are with level of competition. To run a nationally-competitive CP car for a season (unsponsored and all on you), you're looking at at least $3-5K a year. This includes entry fees, tires, fuel, maintenance, and trip expenses (Nationals in Topeka, KS). It doesn't include a tow vehicle nor trailer.

Now, your other question also sounds very interesting and for Stock Category competition, there's F Stock. Both the Camaro and Mustang offer each other good competition but so far the Mustang Shelby GT500 is the car to beat. The Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 aren't classed in F Stock but do well in E Street Prepared with the allowed modifications. You have some options here and all will offer a fun street car as well. Again, tires are going to be the biggest expense to keep you competitive.

Good luck and there may be another thread with more autocross/Solo II information elsewhere in the forums. I've competed my '73 RS locally and done pretty well; there are threads that give the build and fun with this car.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

2g72
12-06-2007, 07:16 PM
Mary:

Thanks for all of the insight, its nice to at least have a clue as to what annual costs would run -- that's not really too terrible...

I am very goal orientated person...as such if I make competing in the SCCA my goal --- I must shoot for the top, even if I do only do local events for a few seasons. However, sinking time and money into a car that I know ultimately can't help achieve my ultimate goal isn't something I'm interested in.

Assuming I can sell my car for decent cash, I can buy an '08 C6 Z51 and run that in Super Stock...it seems that a lot of C5 Z06's are competitive and the new Z51 should be very close to comparable right? Looking through the rules, allowed modifications are pretty minimal which is good as I could compete right off the showroom floor, plus drive it daily as well - which is highly appealing to me.

Assuming that I am correct in my assuption that it would be competitive, I would just need to find a buyer for the Camaro....

Just out of curiousity what kind of HP numbers are those V6's putting out?

mpozzi
12-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Mary:

Thanks for all of the insight, its nice to at least have a clue as to what annual costs would run -- that's not really too terrible...

I am very goal orientated person...as such if I make competing in the SCCA my goal --- I must shoot for the top, even if I do only do local events for a few seasons. However, sinking time and money into a car that I know ultimately can't help achieve my ultimate goal isn't something I'm interested in.

Assuming I can sell my car for decent cash, I can buy an '08 C6 Z51 and run that in Super Stock...it seems that a lot of C5 Z06's are competitive and the new Z51 should be very close to comparable right? Looking through the rules, allowed modifications are pretty minimal which is good as I could compete right off the showroom floor, plus drive it daily as well - which is highly appealing to me.

Assuming that I am correct in my assuption that it would be competitive, I would just need to find a buyer for the Camaro....

Just out of curiousity what kind of HP numbers are those V6's putting out?

I've heard over 400 RWHP. The Z06 is very competitive in SS and as there's minimal mods required, sounds like a good possibility. You'll need another set of wheels and plan on at least two, more like three, sets of tires per year. The $3-5K yearly allowance also doesn't cover anything that might go wrong with the car. Many competitors tow a small utility trailer to haul extra wheels/tires, fuel, air tank, etc. in and that will also help as you won't need a truck or trailer.

The current issue of Sports Car has the Solo Nationals/Pro Solo results and class rundown. You also want to read Fast Track as it talks about which new cars will be classified where and any reclassifications for existing cars. SS can be a catch pond for anything new that's exciting and if you are spending serious coin to be competitive, you want to get the right car. There are also the Solo Forums that can provide tons of additional information.

Good luck,
Mary Pozzi

TonyBolton
12-09-2007, 09:11 AM
My pile:

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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f/f7de43d7-95a5-4d4a-8559-990001617887.htm

blown71
12-09-2007, 10:39 PM
My 2001 Camaro SLP SS - AutoCrossing
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/AutocrossGoodyear403-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/AutocrossGoodyear203-1.jpg
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65 Fastback
12-10-2007, 07:21 AM
My '65 Mustang Autocrossing in Frederick, MD, with the Capital Driving Club (CDC) - http://www.capitaldrivingclub.com/

Tim

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/P1010061b-1.jpg

69Nova
12-10-2007, 08:37 AM
Thats a good lookin mustang.

O'Neall
12-10-2007, 11:01 AM
I love this thread... I don't even autoX and I love this thread! :twothumbs

796spdbu
12-11-2007, 11:25 AM
I live up in southern ohio.Does any one know of a scca club in this area?I have added alot of after market parts to my 95' camaro with the intention of auto-xing.I went to mid-ohio sports car complex and they didnt seem to have any dates for auto-xing.Any help would be appreciated,thanks

Damn True
12-11-2007, 11:35 AM
I live up in southern ohio.Does any one know of a scca club in this area?I have added alot of after market parts to my 95' camaro with the intention of auto-xing.I went to mid-ohio sports car complex and they didnt seem to have any dates for auto-xing.Any help would be appreciated,thanks

Google: SCCA Ohio

First hit: http://www.ovr-scca.org/

Google: SCCA Central Division

First hit: http://www.cendiv-scca.org/

1FstChevy
12-16-2007, 12:20 AM
"up" in southern ohio doesn't quite make sense, but I guess if your speaking in relation to California and such then thats a little better.

How "south" are you? not over here in the southwestern corner are ya? If so there is a somewhat happenin SCCA scene, I've yet to compete as my brakes/suspension project isn't complete, but there are a LOT of Miatas, Minis, and Vettes, only 1 or 2 Pro-Tourers to speak of, and even then they are pretty much just restored original cars with 17" wheels.

vanzuuk1
12-16-2007, 05:06 PM
any northeast guys want to meet at an event,pm me.

va72mlibu
02-12-2008, 05:38 PM
Went out to the local Autocross on Sunday. It was windy as hell, but a lot of fun to get the car out there and slice up some cones. Needless to say, the car got a lot of attention and I gave several rides to people. Here's some pics. Video in the next post.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic/7664087)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic/7664083)
got a little cone rash! :willy: No worries, it'll clay bar out
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic/7664086)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic/7664085)

va72mlibu
02-12-2008, 05:39 PM
Click here to watch Autox-Run-3-33 (http://media.putfile.com/Autox-Run-3-33)
Click here to watch Autox-Run-5 (http://media.putfile.com/Autox-Run-5)

jvtex
02-26-2008, 11:06 AM
Got a few of my Mustang out at the San Francisco Region SCCA event. I run it in ESP.

1968 GT. Stock 302, LT, holley 600, (Need a Motor BAD!). Maier Racing Coils, Strut Tower Brace, Leafs, Pan Hard Bar, Maier-Valve Bilstein shocks. 17x9" with Hoosier A6's (Borrowed). Maier Racing Shelby Hood & Trunk Lid!

You can see the Pan hard bar here!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Mike1-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Mike2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Mike3-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Mike4-1.jpg

More of the same, course is drying out, but ehhh, I know people like Pictures.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Joel1-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Joel2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/Mustang_SFR_Joel4-1.jpg

vanzuuk1
02-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Very cool.

jimhamptons
02-26-2008, 01:49 PM
Very Cool Indeed, nice car!

white79bu
02-26-2008, 03:20 PM
I love to autox but I have to drive an hour or so. And it's not in the best location. But it's a blast.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/mb3-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/mb-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/14-1.jpg
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69Nova
04-22-2008, 05:22 PM
These are from this past Sunday in Gainesville, FL. Got 6 runs in. I defintly put the go slow to go fast saying to use. But it was still like driving on ice with the cheap tires I have.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/04/BucaneerSolo42008121A-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/04/BucaneerSolo42008076A-1.jpg

Love this shot
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/04/BucaneerSolo42008102A-1.jpg

Nessumsar
04-22-2008, 07:36 PM
69: Love how your car looks man. Want to paint mine white, but everyone mad dogs it. Where did you get your front spoiler at, or did you make it? Been looking for one for my car a little bit.

I need to find a local gathering of auto-xers so I can learn how to drive. It looks like so much fun.

Damn True
04-22-2008, 08:23 PM
69: Love how your car looks man. Want to paint mine white, but everyone mad dogs it. Where did you get your front spoiler at, or did you make it? Been looking for one for my car a little bit.

I need to find a local gathering of auto-xers so I can learn how to drive. It looks like so much fun.

SCCA website.

There's one nearly every weekend at either Angels stadium, the duck pond or the old MCAS El Toro.

69Nova
04-23-2008, 04:00 AM
69: Love how your car looks man. Want to paint mine white, but everyone mad dogs it. Where did you get your front spoiler at, or did you make it? Been looking for one for my car a little bit.

I need to find a local gathering of auto-xers so I can learn how to drive. It looks like so much fun.

Thanks. I made the front spoiler. If you want PM me your email and I can send you a few pics to give you a decent idea on how to make one.

Damn True
05-08-2008, 12:45 AM
Some fun auto-x vids:

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Excuse the lame techno/acid-jazz on this one.
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Chevy
07-25-2008, 06:06 PM
Here are few pics from my autocross adventures here in hawaii.
Car is a 68 Camaro with DSE tubulars, Koni coilover conversion, drop springs in back with adjustable Konis, DSE power steering, Baer track 13" front 12" rear. I'm running a SBC 355 with retrofit roller cam, 1.6 roller rockers, Holley Stealth Ram, mated to a TKO 600 via aluminum flywheel. Aluminum driveshaft back to a 12 bolt with a 3.73:1 gear. I run in CP.
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Derek69SS
10-15-2008, 04:49 PM
Here's some from last weekend in Winona, MN with my Chevelle.

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/autox2-1.jpg

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KAILUAZ
01-01-2009, 05:38 PM
Only other guy in my class!

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This guy comes out to Brooksville also, the car is sick:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/99autocross003-1.jpg

autoxcuda
08-17-2009, 02:45 AM
The Fox-bodies Mustangs are very popular and do well in CP. Check out Maier Racing (they're located in Hayward, CA) and there's some good autocross footage on their site. I think it's www.maierracing.com (http://www.maierracing.com) but google it if this doesn't work. Mike Maier (Bill's son) is incredible and an excellent driver.

For starters, get the current Solo II rulebook as it will become your Bible for this sport. It's online and you can download the sections you need, or you can buy one for about $20 directly from SCCA. There are weight penalties for tube-frame cars and weight allowances for V6 engines. Some of those V6 engined F-bodies are fast . . . there are two that can easily dominate CP and both are here on the west coast.

Unfortunately, you'll also be looking at a tow vehicle and trailer if you get really serious with CP or even a Street Prepared car. The modifications it takes to be even remotely competitive will take the car off the street very fast.

E Street Prepared, or ESP, is one category down from Prepared and you should be able to change most of the suspension, wheels and tires, a little of the engine, add a good exhaust, and be competitive out of the box. While it's not Prepared, the level of competition is just as fierce as CP is. Out here in CA, some of the ESP cars turn the same times as CP cars do. Most are still street driven as well. Again, get the SCCA Solo II rule book to make sure what you do is legal for the class you run in.

Cheers and keep on this thread,
Mary Pozzi

I agree, Mary is on it.

ESP or Street Touring would cover the street driven cars. You have to be aware of the rules before you go buying stuff for you car. Just like in any from of actual competition. A lot of the stuff advertised here and that people "want" to put on thier cars are not legal in those two classes.

I think Cal Club was trying or has a Vintage class that runs under an index. That might be for ESP and Street Touring.

That's probably why most of these Pro Turing aftermarket companies don't dive-in and embrace SCCA Solo II. They huddle around these Goodguys type events that are sorta racing since they share the same course, but other than that it's just a free for all.

DMVR SCCA ESP at Marshalltown, IA Go Kart Track. 1995?

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Norm Peterson
08-17-2009, 05:38 AM
Saw this thread only just today and it opened up to this post.



Here are few pics from my autocross adventures here in hawaii.
Car is a 68 Camaro with DSE tubulars, Koni coilover conversion, drop springs in back with adjustable Konis, DSE power steering, Baer track 13" front 12" rear. I'm running a SBC 355 with retrofit roller cam, 1.6 roller rockers, Holley Stealth Ram, mated to a TKO 600 via aluminum flywheel. Aluminum driveshaft back to a 12 bolt with a 3.73:1 gear. I run in CP.
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That's a fair bit of positive camber showing there . . . looked into any fixes yet?


Norm

Toadman
08-20-2009, 12:21 PM
My second time out. I don't quite understand the class system... In "street modified" I'm grouped with some turbo AWD Mitsubishis & Subarus. Whatever, it's still fun!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/08/small2-1.jpg

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Norm Peterson
08-21-2009, 03:29 AM
Street Mod is sort of an engine tuner's class, as there is huge freedom as far as the powertrain is concerned (I think the block has to be by the same mfr as the chassis but you're free to do most anything with it).

But in terms of chassis modification SM is still a "street" category, being a lot more restrictive than either prepared or modified.

I'm guessing that there are things about your engine that don't fit within either Street Touring or Street Prepared, such as an aftermarket cam or other internals.


Norm

BIGX69
11-12-2009, 11:59 AM
RTTH 5:machine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOle0sGVlZU

66SuperSport
12-07-2009, 10:47 AM
Chicago region SCCA event.

cmraman
12-07-2009, 11:11 AM
Chicago region SCCA event.

Cool Pics Chris. Didn't know you were on here.

cmraman
12-07-2009, 11:21 AM
Here's the Cutlass on the Autocross in Madison on Power Tour. Brent Jarvis behind the wheel. Someone has to take pictures...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/3601645469_c073cd6a5d_o-1.jpg

In Joliet Good Guys this last September...again Brent Jarvis testing the new suspension....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/4167151044_fb67ff061f-1.jpg

Me actually driving my own car in Joliet. Thanks Chris Jacobs for snapping this one...

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66SuperSport
12-07-2009, 12:40 PM
Rob

Just getting my feet wet on this site. Lots of cool stuff.
Big difference from the first picture of your car to the others.
I'm kind of partial to that third one myself though.

cmraman
12-07-2009, 01:02 PM
Rob

Just getting my feet wet on this site. Lots of cool stuff.
Big difference from the first picture of your car to the others.
I'm kind of partial to that third one myself though.

As you should be

77ta
12-08-2009, 05:53 PM
I made my first AutoX since putting Protouring F bodys Springs, Solid Body mounts and Upper control arms on the car.
I was running Kuhmo Esta XS tires in 285/40/17 rear and 275/40/17 front. The course was well laid out for my car, but I was really having a time learning it and keeping the course straight in my thick numb skull.... So I basically blew my first three runs spinning out on my last chance. I just could not find traction. It was spinning the tires really bad on course. The 35 to 40 degree temps did not help. The car was generating good side bite, but I had to be very easy on the gas pedal to keep the rear behind it. In the evening session I made three clean passes each one faster then the last 35,34,and 32 seconds. This put me right in the middle of the rest of the SM novices I was running with that were about 10 seconds faster in the morning. We were all in the 32 second bracket I think. All of them ( fox body Mustangs ) were running what looked like slicks. They did had a single line around the tires I think they were hoosier I figure they were a little better then my Kuhmos. Still my 32.6 was about 7th in class I think out of 10....
I was about a second faster then 2002 Camaro ss in ESP and about 1.5 seconds behind a ZO6 C6 Vette in SS for reference. The fastest car was a modded C6 Zo6. He ran a 25 second lap.

There were a couple of WRX cars in SM that were nearly the fastest thing on the course regardless of class... they ran 27 seconds ( they need to be reclassed imo ) a well modded 2000 TA ran a 29 with a good driver and 35 with a novice.I also took a in car video but need to conver it from the MOV format somehow. I also used my Ipod and Dynolysious software to record G readings and I will include a picture on the graph. The car pulled a max of 1.05 G's average was .92 to .95 Id say. I think with better driving the car can go faster. Wondering to if I need more front bar or if removing the rear bar would make it faster ? 1.25 frt now and .75 rear. I have a old .625 rear bar somewhere I could try too (all stock bars ).
Thanks


Some pictures.

Patrick
12-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Autocrossed for the first time at RTTH V-- had no idea what I was doing but it was FUN.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/657382024_3TEXsO-1.jpg

RJ66
12-09-2009, 09:33 AM
Glad to see you out using your car, it looked good from the pictures I saw. You might want to play around with tire pressures before you change anything else on the car.



Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

rentedmule
02-24-2010, 12:12 PM
Here are few pics of me running my truck, one from last summer and a few from this winter's series (pics by GrantC)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/sideways-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/winterautox11-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/winterautox4-1.jpg

Sorry for the shaky camera - it's a make-shift mount
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/th_S6302033-1.jpg (http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/rentedmule/?action=view&current=S6302033.flv)

Damn True
05-14-2010, 08:50 AM
If you haven't seen this months Camaro Performers you need to. There is a great article in there by our own Mary Pozzi on auto-xing. A really great primer for 1st timers and some good reminders for the rest of us who have done it a bit, but might be developing some bad habits.

DarkBuddha
09-05-2010, 03:34 PM
Here are a few of the XR killing cones:


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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/73301999.jpg/) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/autox5xk9.jpg/) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/autox2nn8.jpg/)


It's a ton of fun every time I go out... the only bummer is that I didn't start auto-x'ing when I was younger. And while track days are probably a better "deal" in terms of track time per dollar, auto-x offers a seriously cheap opportunity to bang on your car with very low potential for mishap.

Wesley J
09-07-2010, 07:52 AM
My first time out:

uHUyuZELpGM

NSteel67
02-20-2012, 04:59 AM
Hei,

Your mustang look cool with those wheels.
How wide tires you have rear and front? Are those wheels american racing?

tflyboy77
06-14-2012, 10:00 AM
How's your setup doing and have you had a chance to tune it anymore? I have the same setup in my car with the comp springs and all the ptfb frame stiffeners you can purchase. My first autocross will be at the motor state challenge next month.

tflyboy77
06-14-2012, 10:03 AM
Last post was for 77TA. FYI

V8240Z
01-11-2013, 05:24 AM
The San Diego region SCCA has been encouraging pro-touring cars and hopefully there will be a great turnout at their next event Feb 2nd and 3rd.

SSLance
05-20-2013, 08:18 AM
Been a while since this thread was posted too...

Here's my g-body at the Kansas City Region SCCA Solo Event 3 this past weekend.

76347


And here from Event 1 earlier this year.


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76357


I'm actually starting to feel like I'm finally getting at least a little bit more competitive at this. Working the bugs out of the car and the driver.

Too much fun!!

Here's a youtube of this past Sunday's 5 runs

http://youtu.be/-2syhKAS2ak

Rod
05-20-2013, 11:44 AM
cool an autocross picture thread! I have a few

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/IMG_0449_zpseaf834c4-1.jpg (http://s752.photobucket.com/user/crazyshopmonkey/media/Del%20mar%20March%202013/IMG_0449_zpseaf834c4.jpg.html)

rrelco
04-22-2014, 12:50 PM
Yeah buddy....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/02/actionel_zps5f1bf683-1.jpg (http://s995.photobucket.com/user/emonteith/media/El%20Camino%20Shots%20ProTouring/actionel_zps5f1bf683.jpg.html)

pedro gonzalez
04-22-2014, 04:47 PM
Road America Elkhart Lake,Wi. Optima Faceoff June 2013.

Norm Peterson
04-23-2014, 03:36 AM
Cars I've autocrossed . . .

Early to mid 2000's
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Mid to late 2000's
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More recently
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And a little ancient history (1970's) - I did autocross this car but this unofficially timed (and probably incorrect on some level or other) stretch on a Time-Speed-Distance sports car rallye is the closest picture to autocrossing I can find for this one.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif


Norm

MIGHTY MIKE B.
06-07-2014, 08:28 AM
I have just started attending solo events in my area, with everything going on it has taken 3 years to get four events in. The first time was with the cobra the last three have been with the Camaro. The Camaro has Hotchkis suspension with qa1 shocks, ssbc disc brakes front and back, and a rack and pinion steering. The wife and I went autocrossing trice this year in May and she rode along every time. After the first time she wanted her on helmet, know she would like it if she got her on car. We are planning on making three more events this year.970199701897017

SSninja
06-16-2014, 09:25 AM
How is this thread not more active? I thought this was a Pro-Touring board? :)


Few of my daily driver dodging some cones a few weeks back:

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rchaskin
06-16-2014, 09:50 AM
.......How is this thread not more active? I thought this was a Pro-Touring board......

I think most of the pics / vids end up in the thread of the event they were taken at.

Brian2015
06-02-2016, 07:05 PM
I'm hoping you experienced Auto cross guys/gals can help me out. I just participated in my first Autocross event Cincinnati - (starting line school) and I am hooked! I've been wanting to drive my car the way it should/can for a couple years now and I finally took the plunge last weekend. I'm not sure what class I'd be in though, thats where I need the help. I'm driving a 69 Camaro with a 350 sbc and mild cam, Ridetech level two kit, Detroit speed sub frame connectors, 18" wheels/tires, T-56 trans with hydraulic throw out bearing, 4.11 rear end, stock steering gear box and everything else is stock...interior, body, etc. So what should I be in? Someone told me CAM-T. Is that correct? Wanted to check with you guys that know your stuff.

Thanks!
Brian

Norm Peterson
06-03-2016, 03:54 AM
Sounds right.

All by itself, that non-stock cam would put you in CP/XP/EM against trailered cars on race slicks if you were to run it in the more traditional SCCA Solo Street/Street Touring/Street Prepared/Prepared/Modified class structure.


Norm

SSLance
06-03-2016, 04:42 AM
Yep, CAM-T it is. How did you like the starting Line School? You learned a lot about weight transfer and grip I suppose?

Brian2015
06-03-2016, 05:42 AM
The school was great! It was exactly what I needed to learn what Autocross is all about, how to walk the track, what the different cones mean, how to pick the proper line, that spinning tires and sliding the rear end out can be fun and look cool, but it only slows you down.

It also really helped me with proper turning technique during the oval exercise and proper slalom technique. I thought I was going to do the worst in slalom, but it turns out I'm pretty good at that! :) Unfortunately I was in the last group for the full track in the afternoon and a massive storm rolled through a half hour before my turn so I didn't get to push myself and my car to the max since the track was still pretty wet for most of my turn. The last three runs were not bad though, but I still think I had some left in me.

My best time was a 44.3 and the best of the day from a guy with a corvette running slicks was 35.4 so I think I still did ok based on that and the fact I was working with a wet/semi wet track. Had a REALLY fun time and I plan on hitting at least one event a month! Already have the helmet ordered and I'm getting magnetic numbers now. Good times!!

Norm Peterson
06-03-2016, 05:51 AM
Hope you're getting an 'SA' rated helmet.

Just in case you decide to try HPDE's out on the big tracks. 'M' rated helmets generally aren't enough there.


Norm

Brian2015
06-03-2016, 06:25 AM
I am getting an M2010 helmet. I don't plan on doing any track days or road courses since my car doesn't have any real safety eat on it....I have three point seat belts, but thats it...no roll bar, fire suppressant system etc, so I wouldn't feel comfortable out there with this car....well that and the wife promised I wouldn't race the car on the road courses or drag strip....she seems to want me around for a while. :)

BobH
09-27-2016, 12:58 PM
If anybody see's a Autocross I Central Florida will you please PM me.. I seem to be out of sync
Thanks
BobH

DarkBuddha
09-29-2016, 09:32 AM
If anybody see's a Autocross I Central Florida will you please PM me.. I seem to be out of sync
Thanks
BobH
Central Florida region SCCA has several auto-x events regularly. Also, depending on your location, making the trip to run at Brooksville airport with FAST, BMWCCA, or the Corvette club might be viable. Also, don't forget to check out events at the FIRM for open track days, etc.

Also, if you're on facebook, join this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1424578697756657/


Hope this helps.

BobH
09-30-2016, 04:06 AM
Thank you for the info
BobH