View Full Version : Who Draws Ya'lls Concepts ?
RedAddiction
12-21-2004, 09:34 AM
I have seen a few of ya'll have concept drawings of your projects and seen a few mention that there was someone who drew them for you. So who can I contact to help me out ? It would be great to have something to keep me inspired and remember what I"m shooting for.
colt zantop
12-21-2004, 09:46 AM
kris horton does most of them on here. there are a few others that do them also.
Ralph LoGrasso
12-21-2004, 01:41 PM
Kris Horton did my renderings.
www.carsbykris.com
KrisHorton
12-21-2004, 02:35 PM
I've done renderings for a lot of folks around here including Ralph, Scott (XcYZ,) Jody (CAMCOJB,) Tyler, and many others. Renderings are a great way to keep you motivated as well as show others what you plan to do with your car. They also help with gaining sponsors if that's the route you're going. They aren't just pieces of artwork, but pretty strong marketing tools.
If you're interested, e-mail me at
[email protected].
There are also other artists out there that do work similar to what I do and they are all very talented as well.
Kris
JohnUlaszek
12-21-2004, 06:40 PM
Gary Mutant did mine, he has a great style. Kris Horton is a favorite around here for obvious reasons. The real key is to find someone who will help you visualize your finished product and understand the warped mind of us pro-touring types.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
DarkBuddha
12-21-2004, 07:53 PM
My, oh my, how I love a good rendering... and I'm in complete awe of Kris's work! :worship: And he is absolutely right about it being completely motivational. That said, between being a poor doctoral student composer and having a new baby, the last thing I can afford is a nice rendering. But I do have some late night hours to kill. So, as an alternative I offer the "mediocre photochop" approach to rendering. It's good enough to keep me inspired and on track and it's free! I've done these with the really bad free software that came with my digital camera and scanner. I've attached some examples...
Yep, cheesy, but functional. Just an a idea...
TonyL
12-21-2004, 08:58 PM
there's John McBride (JohnnyGMachine)
His site (http://www.roddersedge.homestead.com/main.html)
and mike desmond
madmachines.com (www.madmachines.com)
DusterRT
12-21-2004, 10:16 PM
What is the average cost of a drawing like these we're talking about?
Travis
KrisHorton
12-22-2004, 01:17 AM
I think prices typically vary with the artist. From what I've been told, I'm priced competitively with a lot of the other guys out there. I think a lot of artists tend to keep their prices between them and the customers though. I try to. Some artists will only give you a front and rear shot of the car, others put together several views of the car. It all depends on the artist.
Kris
BADVELLE
12-22-2004, 08:30 AM
Gary Mutant did mine, he has a great style. Kris Horton is a favorite around here for obvious reasons. The real key is to find someone who will help you visualize your finished product and understand the warped mind of us pro-touring types.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
I have seen some of Gary Mutant's work (this nova which was on the wall at DSE for some time and some interior shots), his work is great. Here is his info that I rec'ed from Kyle Tucker, Gary Mutant 502-448-0881. I prices will probably vary on what you want, full color, B/W, etc., I would say, but don't know. Like Kris said, pricing is kept between artist and customer. Happy Holiday.
JohnUlaszek
12-22-2004, 10:20 AM
Gary's work is water color, and really jumps off the canvas. It also has a lot of hidden depth that only a hand painted piece can have. For a few extra dollars Gary supplied me with a very high res Tiff file of the Nova rendering which I printed on an Epson 2200 printer and gave to Kyle as a Christmas present. The rendering was recently seen in the latest Nova performers.
The disadvantage to a painting is that it is rather inflexible. Horton's 3d models allow a whole different dimension and capability that was the exlcusive domain of only large companies just a few years ago.
Ideally, I would like a water color from Gary and a 3d rendering from Kris.
While a quality rendering is not inexpensive, they can be extremely useful tools from visualizing the concept to procuring sponsorship and press releases, not to mention its just damn cool to have a picture of your project in its finished state to keep your project focused.
JohnnyGMachine
12-22-2004, 11:17 AM
Im another PT board guy that has done some design and illustration work for a couple of guys on here. I've designed everything from diecast models and t-shirts to Radio Controlled stunt vehicles and even 1:1 scale cars. I've been a professional designer now for almost 10 years and my design skills are well rounded. I can take a product, whether just a center console or a bodykit, from the imagination and concept stage and take it into production. I've developed a bodykit for the new 2004 GTO which looks like it will carry a real GM part # and offered as a dealer package. I designed and developed a bodykit and interior design for Tyler at ATS for his killer 1968 pro-touring Camaro. I have also worked with Larry Radcliffe on his RADLARK from paint scheme layouts to final presentation renderings which were used in helping him get sponsored for a lot of the parts he's installing on RADLARK.
If you have any questions about any of my services feel free to email me. My prices are very competitive for the quality of work I can offer. Currently I'm creating a new webpage. There's a recent post of mine showing an example of one of my renderings...a 1968 Pro-Touring Camaro - Street Fighter.
John McBride
Midnite Octane - Concept - Design - Illustration
JohnnyGMachine
12-22-2004, 11:21 AM
Here's the rendering of the 1968 Camaro Street Fighter PT car that's being produced in 1:18 diecast for GMP. I'm looking into producing prints of this 12x18 if anybody's interested.
John
JohnnyGMachine
12-22-2004, 11:23 AM
Here's a couple renderings I did for Larry Radcliffe. I beleive the car is out of the paint booth and at his house for reassembly. We revised where the 2-tone is split. It's gonna be sick!
JohnnyGMachine
12-22-2004, 11:24 AM
I designed the wheels, bodykit, hood, and rear spoiler on this Z. It was produced as a Tyco R/C radio controlled toy. Could be a Killer looking 1:1 car too!
BADVELLE
12-22-2004, 11:25 AM
Here's a couple renderings I did for Larry Radcliffe. I beleive the car is out of the paint booth and at his house for reassembly. We revised where the 2-tone is split. It's gonna be sick!
Me like, me like a lot!!!!!! :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
KrisHorton
12-22-2004, 01:35 PM
John McBride,
I saw where the painter decided to change the color split. Looks pretty sharp and seems to flow really nice. It's the same guy who painted my Chevelle. Larry sent me the finished pics and sounded really proud of it when we spoke on the phone, but I think it'll be under wraps until he lets the cat out of the bag himself.
John Ulaszek,
Thanks for the kind words. My workflow is probably the most practical and inexpensive for the hot rodder that isn't sure what he wants. I try to give the customer as many options as humanly possible. I've done layouts showing up to 10 different paint scheme/color options in one picture for people to pick and choose from. Seems to be a good way to help make up their mind and put them at ease when taking the car to the painter. Nothing is more nerve racking than taking a car to a painter without a clear-cut idea commited to something you can actually give the painter instead of waving your arms.
Kris
406ben
12-23-2004, 11:04 AM
I agree, the price I set is usually an agreement between me and my clients. One thing I like to do as well since this isn't my main line of work, is I trade for parts or services on occasion. Right now I'm working on a t-shirt design for a local small race team and they're trading me for my business cards and couple other items. I do mine mostly in marker, chalk, and digital background work. I'm experimenting now with some more digital stuff in Photoshop and Illustrator. Here are some examples of my work...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/62wagon-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/willyswoodie20copy-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/Finalg0320copy-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/Vet20S1-2.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/vette20side-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2004/12/smallwagon-1.jpg
The top drawing was for fun and the idea was taken from a photo in a mag., the Woodie was done for a concept from a 2 door coupe, the Chevette was my first concept for my own project, and the Nova was done for a national Nova club gathering T-shirt. The red car (http://go-all.com/?go=car) was a concept I did in school as a proposal to do a less expensive, smaller, and rear engine Corvette concept, much like an H2 is to the original Hummer. My proposal was for it to replace the Camaro as an afoordable Chevy performance car (http://000info.com/?go=car), about the price and size of an MR2 Spyder. This one was done entirely in Photoshop. The wagon is one of my dream rides, and this one is currently under construction in Illustrator. I used a sketch in the background and starting building it from there.
If folks can't afford my work, I do my best to give them suggestions on how to draw their own car (http://0-2u.com/?go=car). One thing that works pretty well for concept sketches is to go to google images and find a nice photo and view you like and print it. Take it to a window with some paper and trace the outline and details you want. Then with a good outline drawing you can photocopy it several times. At this point, pull out the colored pencils or markers and go to town. After tracing enough times this way you can get to the point where you can do it freehand! A fantastic book to pick up for about $20 is "How to Draw Cars Like a Pro" by Thom Taylor. Try Barnes and Noble if you have one near. This book goes from the basic to advanced drawing skills. I recommend it to anybody. Hope this helps.:)
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