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Steve Chryssos
05-12-2007, 02:08 PM
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http://web.mac.com/streetfytr/iWeb/TwistMachineLLC/NewPaddles.html

Click on the above link to get a first look at our latest paddle design called SuperSport. These are so new that we have not had time to add them to twistmachine.com. Hope you like em. I tried them out today on Jimmy's red 69 and they feel great. Video will follow soon. Next up? We will be doing final testing on "Manumatic" specific torque converters.

Thanks for looking.

TitoJones
05-12-2007, 02:32 PM
So great looking! I really like the machined lip around the perimeter, and of course the '+' and the '-' symbols are sweet.

Nice work Steevo!

Tyler

Ralph LoGrasso
05-12-2007, 02:51 PM
Those look great, Steevo!

Mr.VENGEANCE
05-12-2007, 02:54 PM
ah.. THAT is what my car will be running..

trapin
05-12-2007, 08:55 PM
Perfect. Those will look nice on mine. Still trying to figure our a way to hide the main shifter. I wish the push button devices weren't so dangerous for this thing.

Steve Chryssos
05-13-2007, 02:35 AM
T,
On John Buttera's latest build,he tucked a smal shifter between the driver's seat and the trans tunnel.

Go to http://www.speedwaymotors.com and search the word: shurloc

Make some inquiries though. I'm concerned tht the detents might only offer two positions. Should be easy to modify though. I plan on thrying this out on our latest build. There are some other interesting race car shifter solutions there as well that might work. Search shifter.

Steve68
05-13-2007, 05:45 AM
Looks nice, If I ever get the LS/4l60 built for the Nova I will be getting one of these from you,

gsxrken
05-13-2007, 06:55 AM
I really like your shifters. They add back a little something that autos usually take away from the driver experience. I dropped into a Ferrari dealership a few weeks ago and almost all of the F430s sold are now the F1 paddle shift, which surprised me.

Have you ever toyed with the idea of a shifter for a clutched car?

Steve Chryssos
05-13-2007, 05:02 PM
What's up Ken. I think about it incessantly. It is pretty much impossible to make a product that I can put in a box and happily sell to people for their hot rods--Mostly because every hot rod is different. All of the Ferraris at that dealer are built to the exact same spec.

I'm over it. Rather than dream about unrealistic projects, I got busy on a solution: Install a torque converter with a large surface area multi-disc lock up clutch, and also tweak the converter efficiency to greater than 90%. Then just keep the sucker locked up! Planetary or not, direct drive is direct drive. The motor and tranny are connected and the gears are engaged. The rest is just semantics.

I will pick up two converters next week and field test them. You are local, so I will be glad to give you a test drive in a coupla different cars. Give me a call and I will be happy to explain it in greater detail.

TheMonkey
05-14-2007, 06:13 AM
Steve-

great looking new paddles.

what tranny are you testing your TC in? (hoping you say 4L80E...)

Scott.

Steve Chryssos
05-14-2007, 07:29 AM
A 4L60E and a 4L80E.

ZuperZport
05-14-2007, 08:09 AM
Another awesome product from Twist Machine!!

Sure to leave a permanent grin on your face after use!

XV Motorsports will be premiering our 1968 Charger with the Shrifter installed behind a 600 HP 6.1 HEMI at the XV Motorsports Open House June 16th!

Steve will be on hand with his awesome Street Fighter Camaro, so don't miss out!

All are welcome!

trapin
05-14-2007, 08:46 AM
Steve, these Manumatic Specific Convertors....are these convertors that "you" are designing or from a different company that you're thinking about selling through Twist Machine? How long before they are available and what sizes and stall speeds do you hope to have?

Steve Chryssos
05-14-2007, 09:49 AM
Scott,
Can you save me a 2nd spot for "The Red Car"?
/S

Steve Chryssos
05-14-2007, 09:56 AM
Steve, these Manumatic Specific Convertors....are these convertors that "you" are designing or from a different company that you're thinking about selling through Twist Machine? How long before they are available and what sizes and stall speeds do you hope to have?
Developed in conjunction with Pro Torque here on Long Island. News and pix should be ready by the end of this week/early next week. Took 'em for a ride in one of our cars after a discussion in which I suggested that pro-touring cars need different torque converters. They disagreed until our little test drive. After the drive, they were completely sold on the importance of setting up a converter for DEceleration as we all acceleration. Should be really cool.

Converters will be sold thru Twist Machine. That way you will be sure that you are getting a unit that is spec'd for pro-touring.
Thanks for asking

ZuperZport
05-14-2007, 10:07 AM
Steve - Consider it done! - Scott


Hope to get Bill H. here also!

neki67
05-14-2007, 01:25 PM
the importance of setting up a converter for DEceleration as well as acceleration.

No further transmission modification(s) required, Steve?

Guess I'll have to make another moneytransfer to Twist Machine soon . . .

Great going Steve, keep it up!

René

vanzuuk1
05-14-2007, 01:29 PM
Dont give him my spot!!!!!

Steve1968LS2
05-14-2007, 01:45 PM
Very nice! I love the new design! Looks more OEM.

4OfaKind
05-14-2007, 02:03 PM
T,
On John Buttera's latest build,he tucked a smal shifter between the driver's seat and the trans tunnel.

Go to http://www.speedwaymotors.com and search the word: shurloc

Make some inquiries though. I'm concerned tht the detents might only offer two positions. Should be easy to modify though. I plan on thrying this out on our latest build. There are some other interesting race car shifter solutions there as well that might work. Search shifter.

Maybe that should be your next product after the TCs. Hidden and/or push-button main shifters specificly designed for Shrifter! :thankyou: I call first dibs. LOL

Mal

trapin
05-15-2007, 06:17 AM
Developed in conjunction with Pro Torque here on Long Island. News and pix should be ready by the end of this week/early next week. Took 'em for a ride in one of our cars after a discussion in which I suggested that pro-touring cars need different torque converters. They disagreed until our little test drive. After the drive, they were completely sold on the importance of setting up a converter for DEceleration as we all acceleration. Should be really cool.

Converters will be sold thru Twist Machine. That way you will be sure that you are getting a unit that is spec'd for pro-touring.
Thanks for asking
Great. I'll hold off on my drivetrain then this Summer and just concentrate on some other areas of the car. No sense in dropping it in yet when the car won't be ready to drive for another year. I'd rather wait for your convertor and just order that up with the paddle shifter.

TheMonkey
05-15-2007, 06:59 AM
.... a solution: Install a torque converter with a large surface area multi-disc lock up clutch, and also tweak the converter efficiency to greater than 90%. Then just keep the sucker locked up! Planetary or not, direct drive is direct drive....

Steve-

Would you mind elaborating a bit on the technical stuff?

if the electronic trannys can be totally customized, what would the advantage be of replicating the direct drive clutched setup like Ferrari F1?

how do you get efficiency > 90% ?

what would the main differences be between the currently available TCs & the one you are designing, and what is the downside to aggressive downshifting with the conventional TC?

will the weight of the TC be like the current performance stuff, or *gulp* stock (4L80E)?

anticipated price point (range)?

thanks in advance,
Scott.

TonyHuntimer
05-15-2007, 07:00 AM
Steevo,

That's a great looking new product. Great pic too? Did you take that?

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

6'9"Witha69
05-15-2007, 07:55 AM
Man, my 700 looks worse by the minute some days. I see a tranny swap with some TwistMachine goodies in my cars future

Steve Chryssos
05-15-2007, 08:33 AM
Scott,
I'm heading out to pick up both new torquer converters now. While I am there, I hope to take pix of of the following innards:
-High efficiency fin design
-Multi-disc lock up clutch
-Weight reduction/strength features. (most converters will be 9.5" dia!!)

I prefer to wait and provide pix as well as answers. I hope to start a thread later in the transmission section. This is all very new, so I want to make sure that I present information effectively.
Thanks for your interest.

Tony,
Yup, I shot that pic in near darkness by sitting in the back seat and placing a tripod on the driver's seat. 1 sec exposure time and a piece of white paper to control reflections in the polished steering wheel face.
I was shocked at the results. I HATE shooting polished parts!!

neki67
05-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Any news yet, Steve?

And I'll ask again; no tranny mods required?

Steve Chryssos
05-23-2007, 12:12 PM
Yup. Just drove the red car for the first time today. I've been working on this program since February, so it was a real thrill to drive the final product. It will be even more thrilling to test out my own car next week. It's awesome. Night and day difference between the typical street/strip converter and one designed specifically for an on the gas/off the gas pro-touring car. Rather than type something custom, I will paste in the text from our up coming new products flyer and post a link to some unprocessed photos
MuscleDrive Torque Converters
Together with Pro Torque, Twist Machine is proud to introduce a line of custom built torque converters that are designed specifically for automatic overdrive transmissions when used in high powered touring and road racing applications. Called MuscleDrive, our custom built converters offer features not found in typical off-the-shelf converters.
High Efficiency Blades
All MuscleDrive converters start from late model high efficiency cores. It is reasonable They are capable of providing in excess of 90% coupling efficiency before lock up. Greater efficiency means less slippage and less heat build up. Combined with a custom tuned stator, high efficiency blade design ensures that more power is delivered to the rear wheels across the rpm band.
Overdrive Tuned Stall Speed
Modern hot rods, such as pro-touring muscle cars, rely on overdrive transmissions to maximize fuel economy and gearing. As such, these cars--as well as modern street rods-- spend most of their drive time in the 2000-2500 rpm range. MuscleDrive torque converters are tuned specifically to meet these needs. Typical off-the-shelf street/strip converters are better suited for wide open throttle drag racing. They therefore yield slippage during part throttle operation. In most cases, our lower stall converter will also perform better at the drags when used in conjunction with low profile “pro-touring” tires. Here, a higher rpm converter might cause excessive wheelspin.
Heavy Duty Lock Up Clutch
The OE clutch is shown at bottom. MuscleDrive is shown at top. The difference is night and day. When locked up, your torque converter yields 100% coupling efficiency for improved power delivery and fuel mileage. Manual transmissions and clutches have a reputation for better power delivery and fuel economy due to a lack of slippage. The “direct drive” coupling of a manual transmission also adds a desirable lugging sensation to your driving experience. That same function and sensation can now be had with your overdrive automatic. MuscleDrive torque converters have unique features such as wide surface area, ceramic impregnated lock up clutches and proprettary design improvements. The clutches handle more power and can be locked up over a much wider driving range--not just light throttle highway driving.
Top Speed Quality
Like a new Corvette or Ferrari, Pro-Touring muscle cars are built to power down the road for distances longer than a 1/4 mile. Precision built, high quality torque converters are a necessity. Unfortunately, off-the-shelf street/strip converters are usually built to low, “budget oriented” standards. MuscleDrive converters, on the other hand, are custom built to your specs. Features include CAD engineering, CNC machining, one piece billet steel front covers, anti-balloon plates, torrington needle bearings (instead of thrust washers), furnace brazing, precision robotic welding and digital balancing. In most cases, a MuscleDrive converter weighs 20-30% less than stock.
Pricing and Ordering
MuscleDrive custom lock up torque converter
pricing starts at $697. Evert part is custom built to your exact application, so please allow up to 14 days for production.

http://homepage.mac.com/streetfytr/postingfolder/PhotoAlbum73.html

Steve Chryssos
05-23-2007, 12:12 PM
No transmission mods at all. Converter installs exactly the same as stock.