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RobM
05-11-2007, 01:47 PM
what aloy stainless steel do you guys use to build turbo headers? 409?

64duece
05-11-2007, 02:19 PM
304 is most common. Sometimes I mix 304 bends and 321 collectors / lead pipes. Depends on the application. Some use all 321 but, it's more expensive.

Blown353
05-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Inconel is great but spendy-- and spendy is an understatement. LOL.

321 would be my pick given a stout but "limited" budget-- expect $2500-3000 in material for all 321. If welded properly it should last a long, LONG time.

304 would be my next pick.

I wouldn't even consider 409-- my guess is you'll have fairly significant oxidation after a couple drives.

calforniacuda
05-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Burns Stainless has an article in their catalogue about header material. Good read.

RobM
05-12-2007, 12:24 PM
next question... can i weld 321 with 304 rod? because thats all i have around at the moment

chicane67
05-13-2007, 02:21 PM
Use 347 filler rod to weld 321 to 321

Use 308 filler rod to weld 321 to 304

Use 309 filler rod to weld 321 to mild steel

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RobM
05-13-2007, 05:42 PM
sorry that was a typo i meant to say 309 filler rod. but thanks for the info.

so what would be the effect of welding 321 to 321 with 309 rod? would the welds oxidize?

RobM
05-13-2007, 06:11 PM
any tips for welding 321?

Blown353
05-13-2007, 07:30 PM
any tips for welding 321?

Look in the fab forum... it's been discussed there in great detail. Summary: clean, clean, and clean some more, use the right tungsten, backpurge the tube, and don't overheat it as you will displace the alloying materials from the weld zone resulting in oxidation/corrosion down the road. If you get the tube joints perfect you can often simply fusion weld the components together (no filler rod.)

RobM
05-14-2007, 06:17 PM
well ive started this project... its for a parsche 911.

well see how it handles a few dyno runs and regular street use. I know that the set up will be pushing enough power to get some of the tubing glowing hot.

I back purged most of the welds and i have to say it makes for a much nicer weld. 321 isnt quite as forgiving as mild steel.