Dale Jr. to leave DEI after 2007 season

[rob07002]

Just annouced the departure.

I can see it now. Jr. driving the black Bud sponsored #3 Chevy for RCR.

Bad biz decision on Theresa's behalf IMHO.

[trapin]

That's a weird family to begin with. Personally I don't see why people fuss over him as much as they do. I think if his last name wasn't Earnhardt he'd be no more popular than Greg Biffle or Ryan Newman. And I was a big fan of his fathers. I miss Dale in the sport terribly. Probably why I don't pay as much attention to it like I used to.

[Damn True]

Hmm, last I heard Thresa offered him controlling stake in DEI. I guess the terms of that deal weren't to his liking.

[dropit69]

according to press conf..he said they were way off from making a deal..Theresa is a idiot for not making this happen..i think you put JR with RCR or GIBBS and it could be a winning team for sure..just please dont go to Hendrick ..

[6'9"Witha69]

..just please dont go to Hendrick ..Yeah, Hendrick has good drivers, they don't need Jr. (Gordon fan here).

[Bill Howell]

That's a weird family to begin with. Personally I don't see why people fuss over him as much as they do. I think if his last name wasn't Earnhardt he'd be no more popular than Greg Biffle or Ryan Newman. And I was a big fan of his fathers. I miss Dale in the sport terribly. Probably why I don't pay as much attention to it like I used to.

I agree 100%. Dale was the man and since he is gone, NASCAR has been going downhill with too much PC and France Family control.
Jr, IMO could care less about the sport, he is just out there making laps and selling tee shirts. With the money he gets sponsorship wise, he should win every week. Everyone wonders why he is so popular, but regardless of his position, even if it is 34th, the TV will be focused on him bitching and running mid pack instead of watching the leaders. Personally I could care less who he drives for or what he does. Show me some fender rubbing and I will be happy. Even Tony Steward has let me down now with his backing down to the powers that be. He was dead right about "debris cautions" but backed down when NASCAR pushed. One thing though, at least he WILL speak his mind. I wish they would go back to the days when the drivers would fight it out in the pits after the race, that was racing....:headbang:

[6'9"Witha69]

I wish they would go back to the days when the drivers would fight it out in the pits after the race, that was racing....:headbang:does throwing your helmet at another car work?

[rob07002]

I agree 100%. Dale was the man and since he is gone, NASCAR has been going downhill with too much PC and France Family control.
Jr, IMO could care less about the sport, he is just out there making laps and selling tee shirts. With the money he gets sponsorship wise, he should win every week. Everyone wonders why he is so popular, but regardless of his position, even if it is 34th, the TV will be focused on him bitching and running mid pack instead of watching the leaders. Personally I could care less who he drives for or what he does. Show me some fender rubbing and I will be happy. Even Tony Steward has let me down now with his backing down to the powers that be. He was dead right about "debris cautions" but backed down when NASCAR pushed. One thing though, at least he WILL speak his mind. I wish they would go back to the days when the drivers would fight it out in the pits after the race, that was racing....:headbang:

Bill there's no more fighting in sports anymore, period! The special interest groups won't allow that to be shown on the public airwaves and corrupt the children:bsjerk:

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

Hmm, last I heard Thresa offered him controlling stake in DEI. I guess the terms of that deal weren't to his liking.

Terms were in the 50-70 MILLION to BUY 51% of his dad's company.

[Bill Howell]

does throwing your helmet at another car work?

LOL, I can remember when you better leave your helmet on, so you didn't get your bell rung later.....hehe

I can remember when we went to a fight and a race broke out.

[Bill Howell]

Terms were in the 50-70 MILLION to BUY 51% of his dad's company.

and what is that, the tee shirt sales for one year?

[Samckitt]

Rob I have to agree with you, I would like to see him in a black #3 running for RCR as well. I too was a big fan when Sr was running, since then it just hasn't been the same. Too much BS, & greed in the France family. Now with COT & Toyota running I am even less interested than before. Jr is DEI's cash cow, without him I don't think they will be making much $$. Jr might be hurting next year with a new team. Even though I would rather see Gordon hit the wall over a checkered flag finish I will admit the Hendrick's engines are good. It will be interesting.

[BADVELLE]

The whole deal always puzzled me to begin with, who runs that team, sure is not Theresa, owners are supposed to be with their teams at the race! I have been to every Texas race for the past 7 years, both since they went to 2 races at that track, I have never seen her at the race! When I spend time in the garage, I have seen every other major owner, but her.

I never understood why the son of the legend did not have equal, if not greater ownership in the legends name in the first place!! It is a forgone conclusion that he will be in the #3 car next year,but I think he may drive for his own team!?!? JR MOTORSPORTS - he is a marketing king! Just my .02 cents.

[Samckitt]

I am surprised Sr didn't leave some of it to Jr in his will. Assuming he had one.

[rob07002]

Rob I have to agree with you, I would like to see him in a black #3 running for RCR as well. I too was a big fan when Sr was running, since then it just hasn't been the same. Too my BS, & greed in the France family. Now with COT & Toyota running I am even less interested than before. Jr is DEI's cash cow, without him I don't think they will be making much $$. Jr might be hurting next year with a new team. Even though I would rather see Gordon hit the wall over a checkered flag finish I will admit the Hendrick's engines are good. It will be interesting.

Well if Nascar has there way, I think that very scenerio might just happen.

Can you imagine the level of intensity when the first lap is made at Daytona next year with Jr. behind the wheel of a #3 Chevy!

The friggin place would explode:headbang: i don't think one single fan would sit for the entire race. And it would just put Nascar on a whole other level, nothing that has been scene in sports history. The races for that entire season would probably be sold out and the Frances would be smiling all the way to their Swiss bank.

[Brandon Miller]

I agree that the sport has changed dramatically since Sr. passed. He could say pretty much anything he wanted and NASCAR would say yes sir. Now the France family, Brian in particular, is in it for nothing more than greed. The whole COT thing is a joke. The drivers and owners need to get pissed off enough and split like what happened with the Indy league several years back. Now Brain France is wanting to have a track built in China with a race there. Is he gonna pay for all of those teams to get over there? He and Mike Helton both need there hind ends kicked royally for all of the screwups they've done. Personally I want to see Jr. drive a black #3 for RCR.

[wiedemab]

I heard that the deal was --whatever amount of money $50M to $70M, but that he would have to report to a board of directors. I'm not sure of the details, but I dont' think it was going to work out where he would be the sole decision maker.

[Cruiser]

I agree 100%. Dale was the man and since he is gone, NASCAR has been going downhill with too much PC and France Family control.
Jr, IMO could care less about the sport, he is just out there making laps and selling tee shirts. With the money he gets sponsorship wise, he should win every week. Everyone wonders why he is so popular, but regardless of his position, even if it is 34th, the TV will be focused on him bitching and running mid pack instead of watching the leaders. Personally I could care less who he drives for or what he does. Show me some fender rubbing and I will be happy. Even Tony Steward has let me down now with his backing down to the powers that be. He was dead right about "debris cautions" but backed down when NASCAR pushed. One thing though, at least he WILL speak his mind. I wish they would go back to the days when the drivers would fight it out in the pits after the race, that was racing....:headbang:

Since when is he bitching, since when is the camera focused on him? Hell they hardly show him at all. people that bitch about him are just jelouse their driver is not in his position and is as popular. he has come to the defence of a few drivers this season about issues the latest being Jeff Gordon. Jr is good for the sport and learned very well from SR how to make money driving a race car and not just winning races. SR made the sport what it is today froma collectable and driver marketing stand point and he taught JR well.

JR may not be all that is expected of him driver wise, but who is and who can hold a candle to his father. Not many, maybe only Gordon and Stewart in talant and the young bush when it comes to balls. Before anyone says Mark Martin he never had to take to the finish line and we saw that at this years Daytona 500. Mark should have been an Indy car driver.

JR is getting better and maybe a change is whats needed for him. He is the only driver besides Tony Stewert that I would love to meet and just hang out with. They are race car drivers and gear heads, Jr is a major gear head. They guy loves to have fun and just look at his house!!! It's all about dirt go carts, fishing, having fun, friends and enjoying his own place. You dont see media with him getting into trouble, he's not chasing women, he not some crazy drunk ass indiot have law inforcment problems. He's one of the few super stars and people a kid can look up to and parent can be assured there kid is not going emulate some iresonpocable idiot.

Theresa just turned DEI into a museum..........

Joe

[shmoov69]

Ok, here is what I said when this whole rumor started a few months ago. If (and it did) it happens (Jr leaving), the reason IMO is a stratigic money making scheme. I think it is and has been planned for along time for him to get in a fuss with Theresa over something and go and drive a black #3 for Childress for a year or two. Sell a freakin' ton of collectables and all the hype and everything. Then kiss and makeup and go back to DEI richer than ever imagined. I think that the heads of DEI, RCR, Budwiser and maybe even Nascar are in on it to boost sales across the board. I think it was planned. But could be wrong!
On the whole DEI ownership thing, yes it was his dad's and all. BUT, Theresa was there from almost the begining helping Dale Sr market the whole idea of collectables and all to make lotsa money. You gotta remember that she is a woman and can smell money from miles away and knows how to get it! LOL! So, she is just as deserving of the company as Jr, but not more IMO.

[Bill Howell]

Since when is he bitching, since when is the camera focused on him? Hell they hardly show him at all. people that bitch about him are just jelouse their driver is not in his position and is as popular.

Joe

Have you ever listened to him on the radio at a race? He bitches about everything.

Did you ever watch Sr at Bristol? He was coming to the front, period. Knocking people out of the way if that is what it took, but he was coming to the front. He could drive ANY car, good setup or bad. He was real talent. Jr on the other hand, IMO is just famous. Yes he is a decent driver, but there are several running right now that are better and have better showings each week. Maybe it is the trouble in the shop? I guess we will know once the new "Dream Team" is assembled next year.

As far as he being the star, everytime I watch the race anymore, He is always the talk of the reporters. Regardless of where he is running, he is being analized, etc.

I am a Stewart fan, because 1. He has proven he can drive anything with a steering wheel. 2. He is a contender or winner most of the time. 3. He could care less about being PC or a (NASCAR) team player. 4. He has enough business sense to have built a fortune and will do well even after he retires, which I think will be soon.

I was also a Sr. fan when he was hated, when he was just like Stewart and racing was all he thought about.

NASCAR is similar to religion though, hard to change others opinions and usually leads to bad threads...lol

Meanwhile, NASCAR will sell more tickets this weekend and the price of being a racefan will go up and the Frances will be smiling. Jr. will sell more tee shirts because of all the hoopla and all will be good in Jr. nation. Rednecks all over the country will drink more Bud and AB will be happy. Drunks will fight, go to jail and help local coffers with fines. All while they are wearing $3 hats and $4 shirts they paid $30 for. Other drunks will throw beer cans on the track if anyone with a 4 on their car wins, and NASCAR will sooner or later ban beer from the tracks, unless of course they sell it, in plastic cups. Meanwhile all Sr.and Jr. fans will have dreams of Earnhardt and #3, together again...... oh the fairytell.

I am not argueing with you or anyone else, just repeating my original post and my opinion, I could care less who he drives for. It will have no effect on my paycheck whatsoever. I just hate to see it the topic of discussion every frecking weekend. NHRA is just as bad with the Force saga. It must be the marketing part of the sport that I don't get, I guess I missed the memo.

[rob07002]

Have you ever listened to him on the radio at a race? He bitches about everything.

Did you ever watch Sr at Bristol? He was coming to the front, period. Knocking people out of the way if that is what it took, but he was coming to the front. He could drive ANY car, good setup or bad. He was real talent. Jr on the other hand, IMO is just famous. Yes he is a decent driver, but there are several running right now that are better and have better showings each week. Maybe it is the trouble in the shop? I guess we will know once the new "Dream Team" is assembled next year.

As far as he being the star, everytime I watch the race anymore, He is always the talk of the reporters. Regardless of where he is running, he is being analized, etc.

I am a Stewart fan, because 1. He has proven he can drive anything with a steering wheel. 2. He is a contender or winner most of the time. 3. He could care less about being PC or a (NASCAR) team player. 4. He has enough business sense to have built a fortune and will do well even after he retires, which I think will be soon.

I was also a Sr. fan when he was hated, when he was just like Stewart and racing was all he thought about.

NASCAR is similar to religion though, hard to change others opinions and usually leads to bad threads...lol

Meanwhile, NASCAR will sell more tickets this weekend and the price of being a racefan will go up and the Frances will be smiling. Jr. will sell more tee shirts because of all the hoopla and all will be good in Jr. nation. Rednecks all over the country will drink more Bud and AB will be happy. Drunks will fight, go to jail and help local coffers with fines. All while they are wearing $3 hats and $4 shirts they paid $30 for. Other drunks will throw beer cans on the track if anyone with a 4 on their car wins, and NASCAR will sooner or later ban beer from the tracks, unless of course they sell it, in plastic cups. Meanwhile all Sr.and Jr. fans will have dreams of Earnhardt and #3, together again...... oh the fairytell.

I am not argueing with you or anyone else, just repeating my original post and my opinion, I could care less who he drives for. It will have no effect on my paycheck whatsoever. I just hate to see it the topic of discussion every frecking weekend. NHRA is just as bad with the Force saga. It must be the marketing part of the sport that I don't get, I guess I missed the memo.

I know somewhere in this post I'm being called a drunk.:dunno:

[Bill Howell]

LOL, I am a hardhead, redneck and been known to have a beer or 12 at a race, so I speak with authority.......I think.....hehe

[Cruiser]

DEI was not owned by SR and when asked many times when it was up and coming and after being a contending team when he would drive for DEI SR said "That is Theresa's company and there is no way I would driver for her". "She could not pay me enough and it would cause problems". Ummm go figure. it's not JR's fault that have SR passed that he was lifted into the lime light and considered by all that was Earnhardt and the next coming of SR.

He got the short end of the stick by everyone, fans, France, the media you name it. Now after dealing with it and loosing his father he wants more, he wants equipment to contend with Hendrick, he wanted control over the company because he is a racer and loves the sport. He knows you have to throw money at it by the pound to compete. It's sad to say the sport has grown away from the most skilled guy that can drive the wheels off anything he is strapped into. NASCAR and engineering are two peas in pod. Just look at Toyota and Waltrip. Toyota has the funds and Waltrip does not have the people he needs or can afford to be competitive.

Yes I here JR on the radio, talking about set-up, what can be done and also complaining about problems. That's why they have a radio and communications in the car. The media and fans call it complaining and whining when a driver talks about anything other than his sponsor at any time.

As a SR fan since 1979 it was very sad to see him go. I stuck with him every year as a fan and supported and yelled, chanted and screamed for him to win when I went to races. I was even threated one time at race when all the fans boo'ed him for a few years (friggin beer drinkin stupid rednecks...LOL). When JR came into the sport in Bush I naturally gravitated to him then. After SR died my next guy took a leg up and that was Stewart.........I am not sure who I like more him or JR.

The other thing to consider is Jr and his step mother have never really gotten along, they have always been like oil and water and when SR was around he was able to mix the two. I think they tried for the sake of the name and SR to work it out. The differences with them go deeper than money I think.

I am glad to see him leave. I hope he can become a world class contender on Sundays and be great at what he obviously loves doing. We seem to forget he was Bush Champion and his drive to race was his father and they loved racing together. Spoon feed or what ever some might choose to call it, lost his hero while racing him........how well might have all of us done given the circumstance.

This might be sign he is just ready to move on and be in charge of his own destiny with no hassles. Sr did the same thing many years ago when he went to work for Childress racing. Richard Childress at the time was just a has-bin driver that knew more about how to race than driving a race car. He said once that Dale was born to drive them and he was born to manage them. I think we will see if JR has it in his blood and was born to race. He may find out he's better at managing a team. Michael Waltrip I think has found that he can do neither and should stick to stand-up. He is funny!!

Ohh and by the way no personal attacks meant from my end sorry if seemed that way!!!!!

Joe

[qwik1320]

I agree, DEI blew it letting Jr go. I guess Kerry will have to carry that torch now! :candle:

I'd love to see Jr hook up with RCR and make it all happen again...but not in the #3. Win some more races and a championship or two first.

If not RCR Jr driving with Gibbs would be my #2 choice. Hendricks a distant 3rd choice. Although I just can't see Jr being happy at Hendricks with their "no facial hair" and "shirts must be buttoned at all times" policies...

I'm slowly losing interest in NASCAR, becoming too PC and that C.O.T. is G.A.Y. Next they'll install fart cans on the exhaust to complement that ricer wing!

[mike67cam]

I'd love to see Jr hook up with RCR and make it all happen again...but not in the #3. Win some more races and a championship or two first.


I couldn't agree more. JR needs some championships before he should drive the 3. I just hope he can become a threat to win each week.

[Damn True]

DEI simply lacks the $ to compete with the Hendrick, Gibbs and Roush super-teams.

W/O Jr. they will have less potential value with which to draw potential sponsors, less money, fewer talented employees etc. A shame, but Sr.'s legacy may be reduced to T-Shirt stands cashing in on his memory rather than competitive cars/teams marching in his footsteps.

[trackrat79]

How long till both Truex and Menard leave too. They were both drafted up to DEI from juniors Busch team. Anyone want to wajor a guess as to when the busch team becomes a CUP team and Truex and Menard defect to Jr's team.

[CHROMAHOLIC]

I hope JR goes to RCR and drives a red 3 for Budweiser that would sweet, the fans go crazy now when he's on the track...can you imagine him in a 3. Like him or not and (and I do) if you took himout of the sport the stands would only be about half full. :twothumbs
All I hope is he doesn't go to Hendricks, I don't know how he would fit in with an all girl team like that. They are a bunch of whiners in that sorority.:crying:

[Samckitt]

Chromaholic I am with you brother....

[David Sloan]

quote Cruiser
JR is getting better and maybe a change is whats needed for him. He is the only driver besides Tony Stewert that I would love to meet and just hang out with. They are race car drivers and gear heads, Jr is a major gear head. They guy loves to have fun and just look at his house!!! It's all about dirt go carts, fishing, having fun, friends and enjoying his own place. You dont see media with him getting into trouble, he's not chasing women, he not some crazy drunk ass indiot have law inforcment problems. He's one of the few super stars and people a kid can look up to and parent can be assured there kid is not going emulate some iresonpocable idiot.

I could not agree more!!!!!

[David Sloan]

quote quick1320
I'm slowly losing interest in NASCAR, becoming too PC and that C.O.T. is G.A.Y. Next they'll install fart cans on the exhaust to complement that ricer wing!

Thats funnie Shiiiit right there!! i dont care who you are.
And yall just dont know how true this may be.
Thanks for sharing everybody.

I have been a fan for way to many years an loved this sport very much.
It is as bad as all the other sports i dont watch anymore.
I used to record every race so when i came in that night from the garage i could watch it.
I have recorded maybe 3 race's this year. If it werent for #20 & the #8 a couple others i would probly not watch anymore.
IAM All MOST DONE WITH THIS SPORT TOO!!!

Thanks guys

[vintageracer]

Why does anyone car what Jr. does?

He's not even in the top 10 as far as talent/ability of all the Nascar drivers!

[David Sloan]

Why does anyone car what Jr. does?

He's not even in the top 10 as far as talent/ability of all the Nascar drivers!

I care because i watched him grow up as a racer with his dad.
And nobody is going to be perfect all the time.
Just my 2pennys

[Samckitt]

Why does anyone car what Jr. does?

He's not even in the top 10 as far as talent/ability of all the Nascar drivers!

Whatever.

[Brandon Miller]

Fox sports and ESPN are reporting that Jr. and RCR were in talks last night about a contract and that RCR will have a press conference today announcing Jr. will drive for them next season.

[Hartz]

So much for all of that talk yesterday about taking his time, talking to everyone, and listening to all offers.

[Bob Johnson]

Ok, here is what I said when this whole rumor started a few months ago. If (and it did) it happens (Jr leaving), the reason IMO is a stratigic money making scheme. I think it is and has been planned for along time for him to get in a fuss with Theresa over something and go and drive a black #3 for Childress for a year or two. Sell a freakin' ton of collectables and all the hype and everything. Then kiss and makeup and go back to DEI richer than ever imagined. I think that the heads of DEI, RCR, Budwiser and maybe even Nascar are in on it to boost sales across the board. I think it was planned. But could be wrong!
On the whole DEI ownership thing, yes it was his dad's and all. BUT, Theresa was there from almost the begining helping Dale Sr market the whole idea of collectables and all to make lotsa money. You gotta remember that she is a woman and can smell money from miles away and knows how to get it! LOL! So, she is just as deserving of the company as Jr, but not more IMO.
my wife can smell the money too..but all she can do is spend it...no concept whatsoever about making it..lol

[Bob Johnson]

we can all complain about Nascar and the changes they've made..but nothwithstanding the fact that they keep making more and more money, and that's what they're here to do, it is less appealing to real gear heads.
They are looking for parity..they don't want anyone to run away with it. It's like pro stock drag racing..it's interesting because any small boo boo and anyone can win..of course Anderson just doesn't make many boo boos.. Nascar isn't going to do anything different until it impacts their bottom line. Like it or leave it, they haven't made many costly mistakes in their run..any other race series would give their left nut for a portion of the Success that Nascar has enjoyed. the day of a guy like Junior running a big operation like DEI is long gone. This is big business..you need to understand it takes a board of knowledgeable people to run it..Dale Jr. might be a decent driver, but as far as him being the head of a big company and making decisions without having to get approval from a board of directors...Naaah...

[69TAPoser]

I agree with you Bob.

But I could care less what # JR is in, the color of the car, or who the owner is. Is this fued interesting? Sure at the moment. Does it make the racing any more interesting, that remains to be seen.

I have been an avid NASCAR fan since I was in grade school. I grew up watching Modifieds and Supermodifieds 3 blocks from my house in Oswego, NY with the likes of young drivers like Jimmy Spencer, Mike McGlaughlin, the Bodines, and even Mark Martin in a ASA car. Just to mention a few. Ya know, real racing back in the 70s and 80s.

If you are really watching NASCAR (and I mean beyond the race on Sunday), they have been very open about their intentions. The France family has claimed that they are in the "entertainment business." I.E. not the "racing business." I understand that it takes a lot of butts in seats to pay for this sport, but man, bring back the racing. Please. I am losing interest after being a loyal fan for 30 years!

Phil

[Brandon Miller]

I don't see Menard leaving DEI seeing as how his dad is dating Teresa. DEI is being backed by Menard. Now Truex leaving and going to JR Motorsports cup team? I can see that happening.

[Doug Cooper]

You heard it here first, I believe Junior isn't going anywhere!

He and his sister are using the public and the media as a negotiating tool. DEI will have to step up now and give Junior most if not all he's asking for.
They can see the future clearly without Junior at DEI. He played his ultimate card yeasterday and I feel he will get what he wants from DEI.

[6'9"Witha69]

NHRA is just as bad with the Force saga. It must be the marketing part of the sport that I don't get, I guess I missed the memo.Not to mention the Bernstein crap when Kenny retired and Brandon took over in the #1 spot.

Jr is the "pretty face" of Nascar. Period. Too many other good drivers out there every Sunday that he can't hold a candle to.


I'm slowly losing interest in NASCAR, becoming too PC and that C.O.T. is G.A.Y. Next they'll install fart cans on the exhaust to complement that ricer wing!The wing is a much better suited piece than the old spoiler. It is functional unlike the infamous ricer "shopping cart" wings. I can't believe that a website for handling and performance cars, which has often knocked the outdated 'performance' parts on cup cars is complaining about a part which makes racing more competitive and better. I like the COT as it looks more like the cars they are supposed to emulate.

[CraigMBA]

Not many, maybe only Gordon and Stewart in talant and the young bush when it comes to balls. Before anyone says Mark Martin he never had to take to the finish line and we saw that at this years Daytona 500. Mark should have been an Indy car driver.

You mean like Montoya?

[NOVA]

Strong possibility for Jr to be in a Hendrick Car.

[BonzoHansen]

I am a Stewart fan, because 1. He has proven he can drive anything with a steering wheel. 2. He is a contender or winner most of the time. 3. He could care less about being PC or a (NASCAR) team player. 4. He has enough business sense to have built a fortune and will do well even after he retires, which I think will be soon.I agree. #20 could drive a shopping cart to the checkered flag.



I just read where NASCAR's TV ratings and attendnace is down, last season and this one. I can't find the stupid article on line.

[trapin]

Yeah....let's put Jr. in a number 3 car for RCR and you know what...let's have the sponsor be GM Goodwrench and we can paint the car black too. What a story that'll make.

Yeah....and that's dumbest fuggin' idea I've ever heard in my life. There was only one "man in black" and he's gone now. Retire the number 3 to honor and respect a man that did a ton for this sport and then GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALREADY!

But that won't happen, because that's all NASCAR is about these days; a gimmick to get everyone's attention and sell merchandise. What a sad day that will be.

[BonzoHansen]

I get the feeling listening to little E he has little interest in #3 right now.

[Cruiser]

You mean like Montoya?

Montoya is not affraid to swap some paint. marin was/is the gentalmen racer. I good quality yes, respectable, yes and no championship, yes.

It takes more than just a fast car in NASCAR to win. That's what is appealing to this type of racing. Sometimes the finish line is crossed first my the driver with the biggest set of balls and a deturmination to win at almost any cost. But this thread is not about Dale SR. There are very racers like this now and Martin is as about far away from it than anyone.

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

I hope JR goes to RCR and drives a red 3 for Budweiser that would sweet, the fans go crazy now when he's on the track...can you imagine him in a 3. Like him or not and (and I do) if you took himout of the sport the stands would only be about half full. :twothumbs
All I hope is he doesn't go to Hendricks, I don't know how he would fit in with an all girl team like that. They are a bunch of whiners in that sorority.:crying:

Chevy Chase is reporting on SNL Weekend Update that Earnhardt Sr. is still dead....

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Bill there's no more fighting in sports anymore, period! The special interest groups won't allow that to be shown on the public airwaves and corrupt the children:bsjerk:

I guess you don't watch hockey, huh? Memorable moment from this season: Colton Orr (NYR) and Todd Fedorek (PHI) fight at MSG. Orr knocked out Fedorek.

[rob07002]

I guess you don't watch hockey, huh? Memorable moment from this season: Colton Orr (NYR) and Todd Fedorek (PHI) fight at MSG. Orr knocked out Fedorek.

I was going to say "with the exception of hockey", but the NHL is even highly discouraging that now.

Didn't the local DA out in Long Island want to bring charges against a player for a recent fight?

[Ralph LoGrasso]

I was going to say "with the exception of hockey", but the NHL is even highly discouraging that now.

Unfortunately, they are discouraging it. My guess is fighting will probably be banned within the next 3-4 years or so.


Didn't the local DA out in Long Island want to bring charges against a player for a recent fight?

I think that was for the Islanders Chris Simon hit on Ryan Hollweg of the Rangers. Simon was checked into the boards and retaliated with a "tree chopping" axe motion of the stick to Hollweg's face/neck. He received a 25 game suspension, which if I recall correctly, is the longest ever handed out by the league.

[BMF Machine]

I agree 100%. Dale was the man and since he is gone, NASCAR has been going downhill with too much PC and France Family control.
Jr, IMO could care less about the sport, he is just out there making laps and selling tee shirts. With the money he gets sponsorship wise, he should win every week. Everyone wonders why he is so popular, but regardless of his position, even if it is 34th, the TV will be focused on him bitching and running mid pack instead of watching the leaders. Personally I could care less who he drives for or what he does. Show me some fender rubbing and I will be happy. Even Tony Steward has let me down now with his backing down to the powers that be. He was dead right about "debris cautions" but backed down when NASCAR pushed. One thing though, at least he WILL speak his mind. I wish they would go back to the days when the drivers would fight it out in the pits after the race, that was racing....:headbang:


Tony Stewart! Good Ol' Indiana Boy!



I heard Dale Jr. is gonna be driving the number 8 Wiedaman Toyota next year,lolol

[shmoov69]

You heard it here first, I believe Junior isn't going anywhere!

He and his sister are using the public and the media as a negotiating tool. DEI will have to step up now and give Junior most if not all he's asking for.
They can see the future clearly without Junior at DEI. He played his ultimate card yeasterday and I feel he will get what he wants from DEI.
Hadn't thought of that one. Makes sense. But I still think my theory is on the mark in that it is all staged and to sell merchandise!