GM vs. chrysler type leafs

[RobM]

Does any body know the differences between Chrysler and GM type leaf springs?

I am mainly concerned with the ID of the spring eyes, how wide the spring eyes are, and the distance between the front and rear eyes.

The only reason I’ m asking is all of the nice parts for leaf springs seem to be Chrysler specific and I’m doing the research to update the leaf set up in a camaro.

Can I get these Chrysler parts ( mainly the afco leaf sliders and pivoting front spring eye) to work on Chevy springs? Or should I convert the camaro to run Chrysler springs?

Any one have any experience with this stuff?

[fast Ed]

Don't the Chrysler springs usually have much shorter front segments than GM and Ford springs??


cheers
Ed N.

[silver69camaro]

Don't the Chrysler springs usually have much shorter front segments than GM and Ford springs??


cheers
Ed N.

Last time I looked, that was the case.

[bretcopsey]

Can I get these Chrysler parts ( mainly the afco leaf sliders and pivoting front spring eye) to work on Chevy springs? Or should I convert the camaro to run Chrysler springs?

I am aware of one company that has sliders for GM style springs, but when I asked about running them on the street on this board I was advised against it.

http://www.cmwraceparts.com/Springs/springs32.html

[RobM]

what about the front spring eye?
those afco pivots look nice. can i make those work? seems like a way cheeper way to get what the globel west cat 5 spings produce.

whats wrong with sliders on the street?

[DarkoNova]

Well don't forget that the Cat5 springs are fiberglass.

And wtf is the point of sliders? I don't see how they could really be of any benefit? I can see going over a bump and the spring eye would move backwards instead of remaining stationary, but how would that help anything? :confused:

Matt

[RobM]

i didnt know that the cat5 set up was fiber glass...

this will give you alot of good info on leafs and sliders...

http://web.archive.org/web/20041126011147/http://www.rpmnet.com/techart/leaf.shtml

[zbugger]

The Global West Cat5 springs are NOT fiberglass. The VBP springs are. Jeff Andre from this site is running sliders on his 2nd Gen Camaro..... When he finally gets it on the road again....

[RobM]

i see nothing wrong with sliders on the street as long as you check and service them regularly. do you know what hes doing for a front bushing?

one of the goals of this project is to make all the leaf spring doubters eat their words.

I figured those spring wernt fiber glass ive seen them on some pretty high powerd and fast vehicles

[DarkoNova]

i didnt know that the cat5 set up was fiber glass...

this will give you alot of good info on leafs and sliders...

http://web.archive.org/web/20041126011147/http://www.rpmnet.com/techart/leaf.shtml

Interesting read, but I still don't see how it helps. It eliminates the problem with shackles, yes, but it says "note: you can see how the sliders help maintain roll center height." Except I can't see how it helps maintain it. :confused:

Not trying to be an ass, I'm just seriously not seeing the real benefits of them.

And wow, so the Cat5 springs are standard steel springs? All you're paying for is the bushings? Screw that. :barf:

Matt

[TitoJones]

And wow, so the Cat5 springs are standard steel springs? All you're paying for is the bushings? Screw that. :barf:

Matt

Not quite. You are paying for a spring that 'sits' just about perfect with a great spring rate and excellent bushing design. Global builds their leafs in-house too, where most others re-sell/re-label prebuilt off the shelf drop leafs.

Tyler

[RobM]

global west puts out a hell of a spring. i know they work well on 500+ hp camaros that like to hit 150 mph or more.