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go-fish

12-03-2006, 12:40 PM

It's not only a matter of a re-match, Florida is a conferance champ, and not only that but it's arguably the toughest conferance right now. Michigan didn't win thier conferance championship. I believe the teams playing for the crystal ball should be a conferance champion first. We saw the Sooners lose a Big 12 title game afew years ago, skip over Auburn and get blown up by USC. Now, I am a staunch Sooner fan but I don't think the BCS worked that year.

colt zantop

12-03-2006, 12:45 PM

.....im sure florida will end up playing ohio...I am just HOPING for THE rematch.....florida does deserve it...I will admit....

go-fish

12-03-2006, 03:09 PM

If Michigan did play O State again and won what would that do? It would make them even at 1-1. They would theoreticly have to play a third game to break that.

Project69

12-03-2006, 08:15 PM

Ohios playing the Gators on Jan. 8 for the Championship, thats gonna be a game to watch #1 v.s. #2 :twothumbs

trapin

12-04-2006, 06:02 AM

Geez, isn't it enough to get smacked around like a little biatch :spank2: by OSU once a season? :poke:
LOL!!! We lost by a field goal...how is that a butt-whipping? And as far as what happened yesterday, we got screwed by the voters. This was more about voting AGAINST a rematch then it was voting for the 2 best teams. Michigan was ahead of Florida the entire season...we earned the right to play Ohio State for the National Championship and have been denied that right because of politics. They don't want two Big Ten teams competing for the Title....that's all this is about. Florida does not deserve to go....I'm sorry but Michigan would pummel them in a matchup. Ohio State should be sending all those voters Christmas cards for keeping us out of the championship game. It would have been real interesting to see what would have happened at a nuetral site.

It just goes to show, the voters have always hated Michigan and the Big Ten. And they always will. This is almost as bad as '97 when the voters gave a share of OUR national title to Nebraska as a little retirement gift to Tom Osbourne.

parsonsj

12-04-2006, 08:29 AM

Florida does not deserve to go....I'm sorry but Michigan would pummel them in a matchup. If Michigan had beaten Ohio State when they had the chance, then we'd see Jan. 8. :cheers:

jp

6'9"Witha69

12-04-2006, 08:58 AM

I was yelling so loud on Sat after the 4th quarter interception I think my whole city heard me. I am one happy camper!!

trapin

12-04-2006, 12:21 PM

If Michigan had beaten Ohio State when they had the chance, then we'd see Jan. 8. :cheers:

jp
I respectfully disagree. The National Championship should be contended for by the 2 best teams in the nation. That has always been the premise of the BCS. Michigan and Ohio State are clearly the 2 best teams in the nation and should be playing in that game. Instead, the voters allowed themselves to be swayed by all the SEC blowhards at CBS and ESPN and Meyer's belly-aching to the press or anyone else who would listen. At least one guy at ESPN has his head screwed on right....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2685195

I know this much, on January 8th, for the first and possibly LAST time in my life I will be rooting like hell for Ohio State.

parsonsj

12-04-2006, 12:52 PM

Michigan and Ohio State are clearly the 2 best teams in the nation and should be playing in that game. Instead, the voters allowed themselves to be swayed by all the SEC blowhards at CBS and ESPN and Meyer's belly-aching to the press or anyone else who would listen.Clear to whom? Seems to me that, while close, the college football experts see Florida as the second best team in the country. As evidence, I'm looking at the Harris and AP polls. There is no way it is clear.

SEC blowhards? Tell that to Auburn, who missed out in 2004 despite going undefeated.

Bellyaching? I think Lloyd Carr has some explaining to do to his players. Why wasn't he lobbying? He should have been out making the case for his program. The fact that he didn't lobby hurt his case.

I grant you the decision was close. I also stipulate that Michigan had a phenomonal year. But they are not head and shoulders above all the other teams. They better get their helmets buckled on tight, because USC will be waiting for them in Pasadena. I'm a USC anti-fan, so I'll be rooting for Michigan.

And finally, this is college football. It's a bunch of 18-21 year old kids playing a game. We should be having fun with all this! :cheers:

jp

trapin

12-04-2006, 07:10 PM

Bellyaching? I think Lloyd Carr has some explaining to do to his players. Why wasn't he lobbying? He should have been out making the case for his program. The fact that he didn't lobby hurt his case.

That is very true, I have no arguement for that. In fact, at lunch today I was listening to a sports radio program and all the callers were complaining about just that. That Carr doesn't do much lobbying for his players or for the Heisman either. It just sucks is all. We had a great year, then we lose Bo, lose the game, and now lost out on a chance for the National Title.

I guess there's always next year. Go Buckeyes.

.......I can't believe I just said that. :barf:

parsonsj

12-04-2006, 08:03 PM

How about this: I'm a Bengals fan. I had 15 years of futility! Not even a whiff of the playoffs until last year. In Cincinnati, the 90s are known as the "Lost Decade".

Marvin Lewis is awesome!

jp

OHCbird

12-04-2006, 11:26 PM

Yeah... wow. great. mmmm-huh. yup.

This really sucks- I (by virtue of being a Wolverine) have hated Ohio Mistate since birth (almost as much of Notre Dame), and now live in Gator infested NE FL. I must admit, in the SEC games, I rooted for them, but now this is just pure punishment. The Football Karma just isn't with me this year...

Who do I root for, Big Ten (I won't go as far as Tony, you brave soul... go wash your mouth out with soap), or the local boys? My daughter is set to chose between MI and FL. This could get ugly!

Well- at least we get to beat up on USC, again. Is it possible Pete Carrol might lose 3 in one year? Damn- football karma again.

And to boot- Troy Smith has to be an absolute lock for the Heisman. What an impressive player.

parsonsj

12-05-2006, 04:35 AM

I'm a Gator alumnus, and I couldn't hate those schools from Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama more. Yet come bowl season, I root for all of the SEC schools. I will admit to rooting against FSU and Miami (and USC and Notre Dame) every week, including bowl week. Here in the heart of the GatorNation, it's been a very good year indeed. Not only does Florida get to play for the NC, but Miami had such a poor season that they fired Larry Coker, and FSU imploded to the point they "bought out" nepotism's poster boy Jeff Bowden. That's awesome!

jp

colt zantop

12-05-2006, 05:05 AM

the final votes did one thing..... gave us 2 games that will be total blowouts..... you know ohio is gonna KILL FLORIDA and I think michigan is gonna smoke USC...... oh well......we will see :)

OLDFLM

12-05-2006, 09:17 AM

I respectfully disagree. The National Championship should be contended for by the 2 best teams in the nation. That has always been the premise of the BCS. Michigan and Ohio State are clearly the 2 best teams in the nation and should be playing in that game. Instead, the voters allowed themselves to be swayed by all the SEC blowhards at CBS and ESPN and Meyer's belly-aching to the press or anyone else who would listen. At least one guy at ESPN has his head screwed on right....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2685195

I know this much, on January 8th, for the first and possibly LAST time in my life I will be rooting like hell for Ohio State.

Welcome to the Force Tony! Home of the Scarlet and Grey! (c:]

Go Buckeyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

OLDFLM

12-05-2006, 09:22 AM

Twas the night before game time, and all round the Shoe,

Not a creature was sleeping, they were saying “Florida who?”

The banners were hung by the lamp posts with care

In hopes that St. Troy would find Ginn through the air.

Drunken and crazy and burning their beds,

While visions of kick off danced through their heads.

When all of the sudden there arose such a clatter,

I sprang from the keg to see what was the matter.

When there in the sky, in a Coupe Deville sleigh,

Was Woody Hayes decked out in scarlet and gray.

He looked on the crowd that was gathered around,

And said that he heard that a game was in town.

I came here to watch it, and wish you good luck.

Though it's not like you need it, cause Florida Sucks!

JoshStratton

12-05-2006, 10:55 AM

Guys. Guys. Guys. Does it REALLY matter who we play? There is only one name engraved on that trophy. :twothumbs

Go Bucks!

XTRMEASURES

12-05-2006, 02:45 PM

go L.S.U.

BADVELLE

12-05-2006, 04:55 PM

It just goes to show, the voters have always hated Michigan and the Big Ten. And they always will. This is almost as bad as '97 when the voters gave a share of OUR national title to Nebraska as a little retirement gift to Tom Osbourne.

Yea, your right on one point, the National Title in '97 was shared, Michigan just got lucky that they played WSU in the Rose Bowl, instead of getting their butts handed to them by Nebraska in the Orange Bowl, like Tennessee did!!!

trapin

12-06-2006, 09:35 AM

LOL!!! Touche my friend, touche.

Although that would have been a VERY interesting match up, Michigan and Nebraska.

69CamaroRacer

12-07-2006, 08:44 AM

Guys. Guys. Guys. Does it REALLY matter who we play? There is only one name engraved on that trophy. :twothumbs

Go Bucks!

Yes and it will read "The Michigan Wolverines" Hail to the Victors http://www.mgoblue.com/sounds/victors.wav

OLDFLM

12-07-2006, 08:51 AM

Not for the National Championship!

"Hail to the Victors" would imply that TSUN won something...
They didn't win the Big 10, they didn't win again OSU and they're not going to the National Championship...

If you're not a winner then your a... Wolverine!

Go Bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

69CamaroRacer

12-07-2006, 08:57 AM

ok msgt Ingle.. because you are my elder and ranking nco I will try to give some resepct here ... Being that you have a few years on me you should remember more games then I do .. and if you look Michigan has a commanding lead in the history of their meeting. You can not judge a war by one small battle but when one side consistantly wins over a long pierod of time then you know who the better team is... GO Blue !!

OLDFLM

12-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Senior Master Sergeant to you... j/k LOL Go Bucks!!!!!!!!

Besides I see you're in FL now... at least you have a team to route for in the National Championship! LOL

Although the Gator's stand less of a chance than the Loser-rines would have...

BADVELLE

12-07-2006, 11:03 AM

LOL!!! Touche my friend, touche.

Although that would have been a VERY interesting match up, Michigan and Nebraska.

100% agree Tony, it should always be decided on the field, not by some voters and a computer program! Since my wife is from MI, we were hoping to see U of M in the National Championship, it makes you feel for the kids that laid it on the line on the field! Anyway, I will be anxious to watch the spanking you guys give USC in the Rose Bowl!

JoshStratton

12-07-2006, 11:41 AM

.. and if you look Michigan has a commanding lead in the history of their meeting.

Maybe from 1897-1950, but since then it has been 28-27-2 in favor of OSU...hardly commanding.

I will let our 6 (soon to be 7) national championships since 1950, and 6 (soon to be 7) Heisman trophies vs
*ichigan's 1/2 and 3, (un)respectively tell the story. *ichigan may have started the tradition, but OSU perfected it. As long as Gomer Pyle is in charge of Blue, OSU will keep on winning.

go-fish

12-07-2006, 01:44 PM

JoshStratton

12-07-2006, 04:27 PM

I am afraid of FLA. They were my pre-season favorite to win the whole shibang. It should be a really good game.

BADVELLE

12-08-2006, 10:48 AM

What's up with the refusal of the Wolverine fans to accept facts? It is the way it is. U of M DIDN'T EVEN WIN THE CONFERENCE. Get over it guys, you really don't deserve Floridas spot, I'm not a fan of any of the top 4 teams, a third party if you will. I can see it clearly without school colors getting in my field of vision. If the tables were turned, the Wolverine fans would be silent. Shhhhhh!!!

The only issue here is that they have no conference title game, as in the SEC and the majority of every other big conference. Technically speaking, I have never understood how you can compare a conference champ if you have no title game, regardless of what happened during the season! After seeing FL play ARK in the title game, it further enhanced my feeling of this will end up being a blow out for OSU. In a perfect world of college football, FL and MI would be playing the +1 game for the right to meet OSU in the championship game. So, until that time, everyone will have an opionion, just like everyone has a pooper!

parsonsj

12-08-2006, 11:22 AM

JoshStratton

12-08-2006, 11:46 AM

I'm hopeful this game is not the blowout some of the enthusiastic OSU fans think it will be. I'm remembering 3 Rose Bowl games in particular:
1971: Stanford 27, OSU 17.
1975: USC 18, OSU 17.
1976: UCLA 23, OSU 10.

In all 3 games, Ohio State came into the game ranked #1, with their legendary coach Woody Hayes at the helm.

As Charlton Heston said in Armageddon: It has happened before; it will happen again. .

I'm hoping it happens again this year. :cheers:

jp

HAHAHAH I severely doubt it will be a blowout. We are not playing Notre F-N Dame this year (I LOVE Michigan compared to them). Florida has a lot of speed on the corners. OSU is going to have to spread them out quite a bit. The real challenge will be the Florida front line. If they can stop the run, it will be veddy veddy interesting.

BADVELLE

12-08-2006, 11:49 AM

You all are right, anything can happen!

67jeff

12-08-2006, 01:53 PM

Go Bucks!!!! No one remembers #2 anyway :)

rockdogz

12-08-2006, 02:17 PM

I'm hopeful this game is not the blowout some of the enthusiastic OSU fans think it will be. I'm remembering 3 Rose Bowl games in particular:
1971: Stanford 27, OSU 17.
1975: USC 18, OSU 17.
1976: UCLA 23, OSU 10.

In all 3 games, Ohio State came into the game ranked #1, with their legendary coach Woody Hayes at the helm.

As Charlton Heston said in Armageddon: "It has happened before; it will happen again."

I'm hoping it happens again this year. :cheers:

jp

It is interesting how Woody didn't win the big games... Tressel and Troy, however, OWN the big games...:enguard:

Go Bucks!:twothumbs

parsonsj

12-08-2006, 02:39 PM

Tressel and Troy, however, OWN the big games...Down here, Meyer and Leak have the same rep. Florida has never gone 6-0 against Tennessee, Georgia, and FSU at any time. Until Meyer arrived.

They seem to be a tough, gritty bunch. It's different than the Fun-n-Gun of the ole BallCoach.

1 month from today ... can't wait!

jp

Damn True

12-08-2006, 03:32 PM

Why don't teams in the Big-10 play their entire conf?

And, what's with throwing teams like Bowling Green, N. Illinois, Cincy, Vanderbilt, Central Michigan and Ball St. in as your out of conf. games.

Pansies.

I'll take a team that schedules ND, Ark. and Nebraska for their out of conf AND plays their entire conf during the season.

Steve68

12-08-2006, 03:38 PM

I've been to the Swamp many times had a chance to go to school there, passed it up, I've lived here almost all my life, two words

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!:bananna2:

JoshStratton

12-08-2006, 05:05 PM

I'll take a team that schedules ND, Ark. and Nebraska for their out of conf AND plays their entire conf during the season.

That's kind of hard to do when your conference has 11 teams and you play 4 out of conference games. 12 game season.

Damn True

12-08-2006, 05:16 PM

That's kind of hard to do when your conference has 11 teams and you play 4 out of conference games. 12 game season.

Big-10 = Eleven teams, whatever. The only smart thing in Colombus is the sign on the Highway that reads, "California, 2296mi".

Hmm, sounds like there's only room for one out of conference game. You ought to be able to slot the Southern Indiana school for blind one-legged girls in there somewhere.

Ok, fine. Play your out of conference games, but nutt-up a bit and schedule some real teams. Bowling Green, Vandy, and Ball St. Please.

audioman

12-08-2006, 07:15 PM

Down here, Meyer and Leak have the same rep. Florida has never gone 6-0 against Tennessee, Georgia, and FSU at any time. Until Meyer arrived.

They seem to be a tough, gritty bunch. It's different than the Fun-n-Gun of the ole BallCoach.

1 month from today ... can't wait!

jp

John
My vote is for a party for the Florida game. Lets get it together. I,ll bring my picture of the Swamp. I can't wait to see how cold its going to get in Ohio on Jan 8th
Dennis Hopper

OHCbird

12-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Ok, fine. Play your out of conference games, but nutt-up a bit and schedule some real teams. Bowling Green, Vandy, and Ball St. Please.

So by that accord, we should throw out Ohio State's Northern Illinois, Cincinnati, and Bowling green victories? And USC? They played as many conference chuckle-heads as the rest of them did (Az, AzSt, Wash, WashSt, Stanford?).

ALL the teams have schedule soft-spots. Yes, even my neighborly Gators have some cream-puffs in there (that they almost got beat by).

BCS sucks.

JoshStratton

12-09-2006, 06:46 AM

So by that accord, we should throw out Ohio State's Northern Illinois, Cincinnati, and Bowling green victories? And USC? They played as many conference chuckle-heads as the rest of them did (Az, AzSt, Wash, WashSt, Stanford?).

ALL the teams have schedule soft-spots. Yes, even my neighborly Gators have some cream-puffs in there (that they almost got beat by).

BCS sucks.

BCS does suck.

I only wish we would have played Wisconsin. They are the greatest 3rd place team in any conference's history of the sport. Unfortunately there are too many teams in the Big 10.

OSU may play some cupcakes, but all teams do. It helps keep the money in state and helps out their brother/sister universities. OSU has a strong relationship with the other universties in the state, and playing them strengthens that. They also are the only team in the history of college football to play 3 number 2's in one season (not to shabby). They may not have the strength of schedule that teams like FLA and USC have (which I dont understand because Notre Dame and the Pac10 sucks), but they make do with what they get.

We played Texas the last 2 years, Miami of FL the next 2 years, and then USC the 2 years after that. Granted Miami didnt play well this year, but I dont see USC scheduling non-conference games like that (except OSU in 2 years). You can't claim Notre Dame because they are overrated, USC plays them every year, and did I mention they suck?

I love college football :)

parsonsj

01-03-2007, 09:34 AM

Five days to go. The boys in orange and blue arrived in the desert yesterday. Ray McDonald is questionable (torn ligament in elbow), and he is a force in the middle of the d-line.

Otherwise, Florida is healthy.

Ted Ginn, Jr. is giving me nightmares.

jp

OLDFLM

01-03-2007, 09:39 AM

I fully expect the Bucks to steam roll over Flori-duh!

btw anyone watch the might Wolverines eat humble pie?
The biggest whiners in the NCAA are now 2-time losers! LOL

Go Bucks!!!!!!

V/R,

parsonsj

01-03-2007, 10:09 AM

I fully expect the Bucks to steam roll over Flori-duh!Good thing for the Gators that they'll play the game anyway. :)

I did see the USC-Michigan game, and was very impressed with USC's guts (and passing offense) in the 2nd half. Both Florida and OSU should feel fortunate they don't have to play USC in So-Cal. I warned those Michiganders to get their chin straps on tight.

But the game of the year so far is the Boise St. / Oklahoma game! What a masterpiece! Hook and ladders! Statue of Liberty! Wild stuff!

Sigh ... still 5 days to go.

jp

JoshStratton

01-03-2007, 11:01 AM

Ted Ginn, Jr. is giving me nightmares.

I wouldnt worry too much about him unless he runs straight. He dances too much recently to be REAL effective. He is just dangerous enough to require double coverage.

Anthony Gonzalez, Brian Robiske, and Roy Hall are your real threats.
...oh yeah, Antonio Pittman and Chris Wells too.

Camaro_Kyle

01-03-2007, 08:39 PM

As a current USC student all I gotta say is UCLA beat us fair and square and I give them props for that, they played great. Although disappointed that we didn't make it to the championship, I'm rather glad we didn't. I had serious doubts going into the Rose Bowl and thought Michigan was gonna kick our butts, especially after watching Michigan's competitiveness when they played OSU, but we pulled it out. Although we did pretty good against them, I think OSU would've kicked our asses. So, when Monday comes you can find me rooting for OSU, and right now I'm sitting here rooting for Notre Dame, but it ain't looking good.

OHCbird

01-05-2007, 12:45 AM

MI had 3 good drives, two wound up being turnovers. They should have won, but Carr didn't lead them in the 2nd half. I give USC big props for exploiting all UM's weaknesses: Hall at corner (too small, not physical enough to defend Garret / Jarret), placing more emphasis on the right side (stopping Hart), and passing over the other DBs. Mich's line is usually solid as hell, but USC pressured Henne just enough to force things.

Biggest props to Pete Carrol for out-coaching Lloyd Carr. Same thing Tressel did. Again. Can we unfreeze Bo please?

As for being the whinniest, I don't get that. I guess if you're a fairweather fan jumping on the bandwagon, it's easy to throw **** like that out there. Funny how all the OSU shirts and **** are now out there. We'll see if they stick with your returning team next year.

Same thing happens every year here in FL- when FL ST is doing better, there's more Seminole fans. Gators tearing it up- the streets run deep in orange and blue. Miami? Nobody up here likes Miami.

OLDFLM

01-05-2007, 05:53 AM

OHC you had me until you threw out that bandwagon crap! I'm a born and bread Buckeye, Brown and Indians fan... and I've NEVER waivered from that! Not even when we went undefeated until the last game of the season and TSUN beat us and we didn't get to go to the Rosebowl... do you know what year that was? You can use both hands! LOL It was the same year that the Browns pulled chalks and left the state and the same year that MLB conspired to go on strike just so my Indians couldn't win it all!

Meat-chicken didn't win the Big 10. (period) Carr whined and whined about deserving a shot at the national championship... rematch, rematch... so much so that it affected his team and they couldn't even pull out a bowl game win!

And as Ricky Bobby said "If you ain't first, your last." M = L

Add to your diatribe that my bride is a born and bred FSU fan... I cheer for her team come game time and she does the same for my Buckeyes. Oh btw Bobby Bowden won his bowl game, Lloyd Carr didn't. FSU took a lot of heat this year but I didn't see any other team out there fielding as many freshman as the 'Noles either. FSU will be tough in 07 and may win it all in 08. I do think it's crap that Jeff Bowden got a $.5M buyout though...

Bobby Bowden & Jim Tressel are class acts. I've never seen either one of them back hand a player after coming off the field or scream at their players or whine about deserving another shot after they lost. Carr needs to switch places with Bo. If I were playing for him I'd probably have to help facilitate that...

Nothing personal OHC (Really) but you know how it is between the Bucks and TSUN. We'd have beat them in the championship, USC would have been a good game and I was cheering for UCLA that whole game... as for Flori-duh... I have a good gator soup recipe if you want it.
It's gonna be ugly... (c:]

Go Bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eat soup! (c:]

p.s. TSUN = That State Up North... there are many homes in the great state of Ohio where you can't say the M-word! Seriously! Woody Hayes would spend the night in Toledo every time they had to play up there b/c he refused to let his players sleep on MI soil... he also wouldn't buy gas up there!

JoshStratton

01-05-2007, 06:27 AM

As for being the whinniest, I don't get that. I guess if you're a fairweather fan jumping on the bandwagon, it's easy to throw **** like that out there. Funny how all the OSU shirts and **** are now out there. We'll see if they stick with your returning team next year.

OHC you had me until you threw out that bandwagon crap! I'm a born and bread Buckeye...

I think OH (IO!) Cbird meant down in Florida where he is at. It is not uncommon to see a lot of Buckeye stuff down there; most Ohioians tend to move to Fl as they get older. It was actually kind of funny visiting my Grandmother before she moved to Vegas. Just about every house on her road had an OSU flag in the yard.

I can totally see his bandwagon point in Columbus though. I have been an OSU fan since I was 5 years old (you should see my Buckeye room - jerseys, autographs, pictures frame, etc...I am bordering on mental sickness). Anywhoo, I have relatives that HATED, I mean HATED the Buckeyes during the Cooper era. Now that they have won a few games, they claim to be avid fans. I disavow all knowledge of their existence as Buckeye fans. Some of them were even avid Michigan fans for 15 years until OSU started winning under Tressel. It’s like all these yahoos who now care about Buckeye basketball. 3 years ago, they couldn’t care less. Once this recruiting class is gone and we start to lose a few more games per year, they will probably sink into oblivion again.

The psychology of it all makes sense. People want to feel good. What makes them feel good is winning, so they will flock to that source when needed. Fortunately for me I am miserable. Go Bucks!