Buddy P's '68 Camaro progress post

[BuddyP]

Figured I'd start a "official" post to keep adding as the project slowly continues. It's been just over 2 years now but at least have a couple small things to show for.

Here's some pics of how it sets on this day... Just picked up the shell from being sandblasted. Unfortunatly that also shows what your actually working with, so now my pass. toe panel that I thought was solid, isn't so. Same with the metal behind the bottom part of where the front window would go. Must have rusted from the inside out because the outside was nice and smooth. Not sure how I'm going to go about repairing either of those spots without getting into a whole new mess of things. Guess I'll keep my eye out for a more solid shell. To top that off I also had my original cowl hood blasted only to find out the cowl portion is loaded with bondo. Got the doors and a few other misc panels blasted and coated as well. Am now waiting for my cowl panel and other misc. items to get finished at the powdercoaters.

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[steemin]

Hey Buddy,
It has been awhile since I have seen your car..
To me it looks like you have made some significant progress :)
I know in the back of your mind you were concerned about
what the sandblasting would uncover..
Better now than later..
Stay the course brother!!
Scott

[colt zantop]

glad to see some more progress! compared to some cars ive seen people start with...Id say you got a pretty nice solid shell to work with man! lookin good...keep those progress pics coming!

[formula98]

Hi BuddyP, Nice to see progress. I'm still waiting on parts (and money) so no progress on my car. Looks great!

Ron

[BuddyP]

Thanks Scott, Colt and Ron!

Here's another minor update, got parts back from powdercoaters today. I'll get some stainless hardware and get these mounted on the subframe. Now just waiting for a buddy of mine to finish painting my steering box and tie rods!

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[colt zantop]

sweeet! nice stuff man!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

so nice..

[steemin]

Nice..
You are doing this ride right..
Scott

[ProTouring442]

Wow!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"
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[trapin]

Looking good, Buddy.

[rocketrod]

Looks great! Hopefully before the end of the year I can get my stuff dropped off for powdercoating.

[1Fine69]

man i wished i started off like that....way to do it right man.

[trapin]

In hindsight I wish I would have powdered all that stuff too. I ended up spraying them with Hot Rod Black with an HVLP gun. They came out great but it was such a hassle.

[Mark Antrim]

Looking good, glad to see your still working on it

Mark Antrim

[BuddyP]

Thanks again guys!

Yeah Mark, slowly but surely. Just waiting for the steering box and tie rods to get back from paint. Now I just need to get over your way and see yours like I've been taking about for the last year! Maybe after the holiday rush, get in in for paint yet?

[ProTouring442]

Speaking about things the blasting can uncover. When I had the shell of my '72 blasted, it uncovered a spot on the dash where the factory spot-welder melted the dash (all metal here) creating a hole som 1-1/2" in diameter!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"
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[BuddyP]

Well winters over, getting back into car mode a bit. Got the core support, headlight brackets and some other mics parts powdercoated a satin black along with getting my steering parts painted. Nothing major at this point but here's a couple pics....

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[trapin]

Any progress is good progress. I love how your frame came out. What are you using for tie rod sleeves? And thanks for the update.

[Steve68]

Looks great!!!

[BuddyP]

Any progress is good progress. I love how your frame came out. What are you using for tie rod sleeves? And thanks for the update.
Thanks! So far it's turning out ok. The rod sleeves are a set of extruded alum. jobbies I got from a guy off from ebay. Here's another auction of his for them, only these are for a 2nd gen. I'm sure he has more for the 1st gen...
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[Asia]

wow, that looks sweet!

[BuddyP]

Well, several months later, not much new but did pick up a few parts and as of a week ago I got the motivation to start cutting up some sheet metal again. Got the trunk floor and inner rear fender wells cut out, just about ready to replace. Just need to smooth and prep the frame rails to accept the new full trunk floor...

Also picked up a alum. radiator and electric fan to add to the front end along with a set of rear brakes to match the front.

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[steemin]

Hey Buddy,
Nice score on the brakes and the radiator..
Slowly but surely its coming together.
What did you end up deciding on the wheels?
Scott

[trapin]

Good to see ya at it again, Buddy. You got yourself some work there with all that sheetmetal.

[BuddyP]

Scott, still considering some BMW wheels... sounds like they'll work out ok.

I hear that Tony, and the reason why I procrastinated so long on starting on the body...

...and here's a couple updates. Got the trunk floor fit and screwed into place along with both rear inner fender wells. Hoping to have them welded in next weekend. Have my rocker section close to being fit, but needs a little more messaging for it to be ready to be welded in.

If anybody see's anything out of wack here, let me know, I'd rather catch it now!

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[dropit69]

are you gonna mini tub?..if so wouldnt this be the time to do it? looking good to me..but im no body expert..

[BuddyP]

Darrin, would absolutly love to mini tub... but when I figure in the extra cost of the mini tub kit, wider wheels and tires, that's half the cost of a good LS1 motor/tranny setup. Money I'd rather save to put somewhere else. I can deal with 1.25" less tire width in the rear. If I had more funds available I'd do it.... no body expert here by any means either lol, just learning as I go. I've never done body work before.

[steemin]

Buddy,
looking good.
I need to get up there soon and check it out.
Scott

[BuddyP]

Well 8 months later and not too much more to show for, Did pick up a 12 bolt rear end. Fully rebuilt with new axles and 3.73 posi differfential. Hoping to get the body started on at a buddy of mine's shop this fall. With all hope, I will have a roller by the beginning of next summer.

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[trapin]

Good to see you're keeping the faith Buddy. LOL!!! DON'T SELL IT.

By the way, it was nice meeting you at Woodward. I wish we could have hung out more but I got out there so late. I only stayed another hour after you left. Hope to see you up here for Autorama in March next year.

[BossaNova]

Everything (parts/mods) look really good. Keep up the good work.

[BuddyP]

Thanks guys, still trying to plug along the best I can...

Finally picked up a motor... A 6.0 LQ4 long block. The truck it was in was in a fire, motor looked pretty grubby when I got it... but sure was resonable $$. Had the block blasted this past week and got some block paint on it. Have a L76 intake coming and my 90mm FAST cable TB got here just the other day. Also plan on L92 heads and Autokraft oil pan.

Also have a T56 tranny, freshly rebuilt, that I have setup to buy. So I will have that soon as well.

Here's right after I picked it up....

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[chevelle19700]

lookin good

[rocketrod]

Nice!!

[BossaNova]

Congratulations on the score!
Love the idea of the L-76 intake & L-92 heads.

[Mike Holleman]

Buddy, I recently finished building an LS2 with the heads and intake you are planning. Heads were ported, a comp cam and headers and it made 445 RWHP. Not a bad combination. You will love it.
Mike

[trapin]

Buddy, go with a 228/228 112 cam and the ported L92 heads and you'll be grinnin' from ear to ear. That thing will scream and still get great gas mileage.

[steemin]

Awesome job Buddy.
Can't wait see your progress..
Scott

[Rybar]

Looks good, nice score on the motor.

[BuddyP]

.... well there won't be a roller by early summer but motor is close to complete. Just got my new set of alum. valve covers, oil pump and timing chain/gears in the mail the other day. Rocker arms, stands and bolts should be there in the next week. Gotta get the cam and oil pan on order and should have a mostly complete motor by the first part of May. Will post pics when I get it painted and home.

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[BuddyP]

Finally picked up my tranny, T-56 out of a '04 GTO.

Still need to get a LS7 clutch and flywheel, harness and other misc items to install it.

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[1971CHEVELLE]

Wow awesome project

[Ratty 46]

Graet project & looks like your going at it the right way.....

ratty 46

[BuddyP]

Thanks again guys...

Just got my motor back from my motor builder... now I can start bolting on the accessories. Still need to get a fuel rail, harness/PCM/coils, headers, power steering and alternator. Going to paint the intake silver and paint the pulleys and valve covers a dark gray to match the subframe.

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[DEIGuy38]

Nice looking work and parts.

Try http://www.jimsperformance.com/ they reworked my stock harness and added fuel pump relay and fan triggers. He knows his stuff.

Try http://www.pcmforless.com/ for the PCM. Sent mine off and had it reprogrammed. If you make changes to the motor, send it in for a reprogram for $50.00.

[BuddyP]

Thanks for the info!

[Chris 68]

I want those wilwoods! I'm buying mine this week! and that motor is beautiful. awesome build!

[colt zantop]

lookin good buddy!! lmk if you still want that exhaust.... talk to ya later

[jtmiller92]

Vey inspirational, I cant wait go get started on mine. Maybe I'll actually go out a do some work to it instead of sitting on the computer. lol

[BuddyP]

Well I'll give a breif update... was waiting to update the thread when I got the shell back from the local collision shop. It's getting the trunk floor, main floor, qtrs, rear valance and mini tubs welded in. I'll have it back in about a week and will post some shots of it along with some updated shots of the motor.... this is gettin exciting now!

[72camaross]

looks awesome man! keep up the good work!!
I'd love to find that motor and tranny combo as well! good job

[BuddyP]

Got the shell back from the body shop. Got the full floor, full trunk pan, rear valance, rocker panel section and both qtrs fit and welded in place. Have a LOT of grinding and sealing to do now.

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[trapin]

Love the engine Buddy. What camshaft did you go with?

[colt zantop]

lookin good!!

[T_Raven]

Awesome progress. Body work pics are always nice to see

[BuddyP]

Love the engine Buddy. What camshaft did you go with?
Guess it's been awhile since I checked my built post! I think it's a 228/232 .591/.609 lift. It's a Comp cam. Pulling from memory here.

[BuddyP]

Here it is on the rotisserie.....

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[BuddyP]

Well winter is over and back on the car... got the subframe connectors installed this weekend. Just need to get em welded in. Next will be ordering a rear suspension setup, looking at a G-bar.

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[Dons67]

moving along nice!! keep up the good work - - some day you and your boy will be cruising out for ice cream and you'll just smile and think it was well worth the wait.

keep it up

don

[Motown 454]

The car is looking good, nice progress.

[OnEdge]

Car is looking really good. Look like you are making some good progress. I showed my wife the picture of your son in the car and she said, " That almost looks like our son in your car" I was like yup. I look forward to getting my little guy out there in the garage working on the "Hot Rod".

[CruizinKev]

looking good! :twothumbs

[BuddyP]

Car is looking really good. Look like you are making some good progress. I showed my wife the picture of your son in the car and she said, " That almost looks like our son in your car" I was like yup. I look forward to getting my little guy out there in the garage working on the "Hot Rod".
I hear ya! Can't wait to go to some show with him in the car. I just hope I can get it finished up soon enough that he can enjoy that in his youth! He loves being out in the garage and playing with the tools!

[Dalamar]

very nice work. your before & after shots show some great progress.

[BuddyP]

Update... received my Alston G-Link from Frank the other day. Now I'm all set for my last bit of welding on the body. Need to weld in the subframe connectors, G-link brackets and seat pans along with a couple misc. minor touch ups. Hoping to get it over to the welders tomorrow night. After that will be seam seal then off to the Line-X shop for undercoating.... Wow, and soon to be a roller! Downhill battle after that point. Can't wait!

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[BuddyP]

Also got some accessory running gear on the motor as well.... Have a nice harmonic balancer for it but don't have it on yet. Also need to lightly notch the left valve cover for alternator clearance.

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[BuddyP]

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[Rybar]

Looks good, I'd like to see how much work that G-link is to install.

[BuddyP]

Looks good, I'd like to see how much work that G-link is to install.
I'll take some pics... going to get the frame rail mounts prepped and ready for weld tonight if I have time. From looking through the instructions it'd be no problem for someone that can weld and has a welder... I have neither so I need to prep it and run the shell up town to a buddy of mine's shop. Everything looks pretty straight forward.The worst part of it will be having to shave down the axle housing leaf mounts for the new G-link mounts.

[srh3trinity]

Great looking group of parts that you have there. The rendering looks awesome and it is nice to hear that you are getting close to being a roller. Keep us posted.

[Jarcaines]

Great build! Can't wait to see more!

[Motown 454]

Nice work. You have a bunch of sweet parts there. Those lower bars for the four link look really stout. I have the Air Ride G bar but it doesn't have bars like those.

[BuddyP]

Looks good, I'd like to see how much work that G-link is to install.
Wasn't too bad Ryan. Just lining up the main brackets on the rear end was something you had to be careful with. Don't have a photo of the rear end yet but here's the brackets mounted on the body. The shell is getting welded up at a shop uptown right now so will get more photo's when I get it back.

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Nice work. You have a bunch of sweet parts there. Those lower bars for the four link look really stout. I have the Air Ride G bar but it doesn't have bars like those.

Thanks!.. yes those bars are beefy. I like the solid joints vs the poly bushings.

[BuddyP]

Been awhile but here's some good updates... Rear suspension and final welding was completed. Got the underside fully seam sealed. Took it up town today to the Line-X shop and got er undercoated.

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Dougs Headers..... motor very close to complete. Sold my modified LS1 pan to get a Autokraft pan. Still need harness, PCM and fuel rails.

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[steemin]

Wow you have made some serious progress since I last saw your car.
The underside looks great.
Good decison with the undercoating IMO for your intended use..

Once it is a roller you will be really motivated!

Scott

[trapin]

That lining is BAD BASS Buddy. Wish I could have done that. The only thing I will regret through this whole process is not getting my car on a rotisserie. Great progress. Keep it coming.

[Steve68]

Really like the underneath,

what kind of coating? epoxy??

[daredvl22]

The line-x looks fantastic. I was thinking about doing the same with my project. I already spoke to my local line-x dealer, and they'll do it for a decent price. My only concern is the heat from the exhaust. Did you consider this? If so, any idea how the line-x will hold up? I assume the exhaust will never get hot enough to cause any harm. I'd just hate to redo everything because it melted.

Project looks great!

[Rybar]

Looks killer, thanks for the G-link install pics. Mines getting done as we speak.

[colt zantop]

wow buddy...progress is coming along nice! that undercoating looks killer! wish I could have done that! I love those headers too...

[BuddyP]

Scott, getting very motivated... so motivated that the sled is still apart and there is snow on the ground!

Tony, just lucky that I ran across one to use!

Now I can throw the rear end under it and next will be getting the motor/tranny dropped in and start finishing it off to the point of firing it up.

Ryan, make sure you post some pics of yours too

[BuddyP]

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[colt zantop]

very nice! that undercoating looks great! did you build the rollbar? it sure is coming together!

[BuddyP]

Well been a few months and while not any major new, this past weekend was a milestone.... The Camaro is now offically a roller!! Have all the accessory drives installed on the motor. While the L76 intake is still on, I should see my LS3 intake with injectors and fuel rails in the mail in the next day or two. Hoping to hit up the fuel tank and fuel lines next. Next milestone/goal is to fire the motor.


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[CliffS]

Awsome project, g-link pics come in handy. Waiting for mine.
subscribed.

[dropit69]

very nice progress !!!!

[robertjra]

wow looking good way to go nice to see a build coming together!

[BuddyP]

Forgot to post my tank update... ha! Thanks to James OLC I picked up this Rick's tank with pump and sending unit. It is mounted under the car but don't have any pics yet. Car is back up to the body shop to get the firewall and dash painted. That will allow me to start hooking up fuel lines, brake lines, steering, etc. between the motor and body.

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[joeko23]

Great job on the build. It's coming together

[BigMal69]

BuddyP, any updates on the car? I live in Michiana as well and am working on a '69 LS1.

[kmdracer]

68 is my fav year. Subbing to the thread. Good progress so far, nice to see one that gets built on a real world schedule.

[datsbad]

Hey Buddy ....Looking good there . Hope all is well
Jason

[tommycomfort]

Just did a scan through the whole build, WOW! Can't wait to see it on the road!
Tom

[BuddyP]

Thanks a bunch guys... need the motivation (well, and $$). Just had the firewall, dash and inside trunk area painted, am picking it up this weekend. Can't wait to see it! Will post pics when I get it.

Jason, all is well. Looking forward to seeing your next build.

..."real world schedule"... Ha! Yeah, 8 years and counting. Told wifey if it was going to take me 10 years I didn't even want it... guess I have less than 2 years to get it complete.

[trapin]

I'm on year 10 myself Buddy. The car is looking great. One of my biggest regrets was no getting it on a rottiserie when I had the chance.

We need to talk about that tank and where you got it. Very interested. I still do not have a fuel tank.

[joeko23]

Great progress!

[BuddyP]

Tony, when I first came on this site and saw your build page I thought "how did he get some much done so quick" lol! Give me a shout sometime.

[colt zantop]

everything is looking good buddy! can't wait to see the new pics! hopfully we can get together soon for a show.....detroit autorama is in end of FEB :)

[BuddyP]

As promised here are updated photos of the firewall, dash and paint. Picked it up from the body shop over the weekend. Wow.... it now has some color! Had the firewall smoothed out and dash painted same color. This will be the final color of the vehicle as well.

Here's of the little helper after painting some satin black under the dash...
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Pieces and parts...
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Started laying in the floor matting and wire harness....
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Gave the trunk a nice coat of splatter to finish it off, read to get battery mounting squared away.
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[BuddyP]

Got the Fatmat installed on the floor and roof...

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The boy can't wait to drive it!!

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[juarch328]

Awesome build!

[joeelutz]

Buddy, I just read through your thread and your car is looking real good! What are you planning to do for coil mounting? The reason I ask is we manufacture some trick billet coil mounts for LS2, 3, and 7 coils that allow you to neatly relocate the coils anywhere that is convenient such as firewall, lower frame rails, etc. If they look like something that you could use, maybe we could do some trading. I could use a couple good renderings of my project 67 Camaro to try out some stripe and wheel options. If you are interested, shoot me a PM.
Thanks,
Joe
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[BuddyP]

Some minor updates. Was able to get some more items installed and assembled. Picked up a rebuiilt heater box with new heater core, got the tank installed and started installing the fuel lines. Need to finish routing the fuel lines in the rear to the tank.

Main goal now is getting to the point of getting the motor started. As of last night the subframe is bolted back up to the body. Need to button up a lot of wireing yet, get some gauges and sensors, plug wires and battery/battery cables.


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Tight tollerance areas, the header is just touching the steering box. Not sure what to do here other than milling a couple degrees off the backside of the header flange. Also passenger upper control arm dosn't have much clearance. Has about 0 degrees camber, going to be an issue when putting a few degrees of camber in it.

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[Roberts68]

Since it is always so easy to spend other peoples money I will suggest aftermarket UCA's and a more compact steering gear. I know it isn't probably anything you haven't heard, but I think both would remedy your ailments handily and offer additional benefits to the build.

While it is sooooo easy to have "scope creep" but I feel these would be worthwhile additions to your project if it can be funded.

[sixfivepost]

Awesome Buddy! I love the color, but I'm biased :-)

[BuddyP]

Since it is always so easy to spend other peoples money I will suggest aftermarket UCA's and a more compact steering gear. I know it isn't probably anything you haven't heard, but I think both would remedy your ailments handily and offer additional benefits to the build.

While it is sooooo easy to have "scope creep" but I feel these would be worthwhile additions to your project if it can be funded.

Ironically enough I've been eyeing Ridetech's front end kit that includes UCA's, LCA', spindle and shocks... but will probably wait until the car is in the complete stage. I'll have to check into the steering box. Would rather catch it now than pull it apart later.

[BigMal69]

Great progress Buddy! Any other pics of how you mounted your your ECM? I want to do something similar. Also, where did you pull the harness through the firewall at?

[DirtShark]

Really nice work on your car, keep it up!!!

[Motown 454]

The car looks great. Nice work.

[BuddyP]

Here's a photo of the motor and subframe mounted up to the car. Also got my coil mounts bolted up. Still plan on painting the valve covers. Just still trying to get final few items to get the motor fired up hopfully soon.

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[cheapthrillz]

Building a Pro-Street car with those skinnys on the front? lol

J/K.... Car is coming along nicely!

[WS6]

Looking good Buddy!

[BuddyP]

Still trying to get some loose ends tied up. Started running cable for batter and such. Also just got ahold of a hub for the steering column.

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[tommycomfort]

Hey Buddy, where did the steering wheel hub come from? We need something similar to that for one of our projects.
Thanks, Tom

[Motown 454]

Nice progress. That color looks great in the sun. Nice work.

[BuddyP]

Another little update. Gauges were delivered this past Friday! Went with Speedhut. Mounting the Tach and Speedo in the original gauge pod.

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[Dalamar]

nice work! I like the gauges and center console holder. nice touch.

[Auto Rod Technologies]

Looking really good, anxious to see this one in person!

[zbugger]

Buddy, did the plates for the gauges come from Speedhut too? If not, where?

[BuddyP]

Thanks for the kind words! Allen, I designed and had the plates made. If you are someone else is wanting to use this application PM me and I can get some more made.


Looking really good, anxious to see this one in person!
Thanks! I'll need to run by your shop sometime this spring/summer

Picked up some angle rings to mount the small gauges and took a couple more degrees out of them. The '68 dash as such a slant to it I needed a good angle to be able to see them. They are still borderline but won't really know until I get a seat mounted in the car. The temp gauge I'm going to do a pillar mount so that it is right in front of my face.

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[Lenie]

That's a great look Buddy. This is the part of my build I have no idea what to do. I may have to take this and run w/it. Keep posting.

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[BuddyP]

That's a great look Buddy. This is the part of my build I have no idea what to do. I may have to take this and run w/it. Keep posting.
Thanks! Yeah have at it. Can hook you up with the template for that plate in that area as well. I will note thought, now that I've done it, to maybe look at mounting the gauges at the very top (unless you have A/C vent there) for better visual access to the gauges.

Before I forget, I want to thank Vince Ortiz aka Mr. Quick for cutting the gauge mounting panels.

[BuddyP]

Well thanks to Jason Mitchall I was able to get my dash and gauges all wired up last weekend. I can actually turn the motor over now but not ready to fire yet. Got a chance to set a seat in the car finally and yet another roadblock. Roll cage is too far forward and for me to be comfortable and not eating the dash, the seat sets about 6" behind the roll bar. Cut and hack some more I guess....

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[BuddyP]

Ignore the ugly shifter...

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[Mr T81]

Nice build, what size are the speedo and tach? 3 3/8?

[BuddyP]

Nice build, what size are the speedo and tach? 3 3/8?

4.5", stock holes are 4 3/4"

[JMitch19]

I like how the gauges look lit up. Can't wait to get mine in my car. Once you get that thing fired up your motivation to finish it will go throw the roof.

[BuddyP]

You bet Jason! Have my trailer up for sale to help pay for parts to get it fired and paint, hope it sells soon. After that for the most part is interior, wheels and trim!

Can't wait to see yours done, will be darn sharp with those Forgelines!

[Lenie]

Buddy, really like the way it turned out. You've got to be getting stoked. What kind of trailer you selling?

[BuddyP]

Thanks Lenie, I'll be officially stoked when I hear it running!!!

Sellint a full aluminum 7x14 'V' nose tandom axle with finished interior and work bench.

[Dons67]

Those gauges are very nice - I did something similar in mine but mounted them above the havc controls - even though i mounted them like you did i could hardly see them once i was in the seat and driving -- if you can before you put everything together try to get them at an angle similar to the tach where they are tilted back that should be enough to be able to see them fine - - i ended up ordering a gauge cluster from year one for the floor console because it was driving me nuts

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[Motown 454]

The dash came out great. I love the way the gauges came out.

[fountjr]

Nice Build! I a building a 67 camaro in a similar manner!

A couple questions...did you build your own roll cage? or buy a pre-bent and install yourself? Also, did you use the stock steering column or buy aftermarket?

I lived in the Michiana area for the last 5 years but recently moved out West...wish we could have hooked up before I left.

Keep up the good work!

[BuddyP]

Been a bit since posting an update but have done quit a bit.

BIG NEWS!!! FIRED THE MOTOR AND IT RUNS!!!

Got all the sensors intalled, intake setup and installed. Had to get a new steering box, the "used" one was junk. PS lines all plumbed. Just need to finalize cooling plumbing. Still need to install complete exhaust, just open headers right now. Also need to finish my PCV setup. One issue I have is the throttle body doesn't seem to have enough spring tension. It doesn't snap all the way back when pushing on the gas pedal. Using a Lokar throttle cable but seems to have a lot of friction in it. I have no sharp bends in the cable.

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Also got my brake lines mostly routed. Need to take care of a few loose ends though.

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[MrQuick]

nice job buddy.

[boostin05blacksti]

Been a bit since posting an update but have done quit a bit.

BIG NEWS!!! FIRED THE MOTOR AND IT RUNS!!!

Got all the sensors intalled, intake setup and installed. Had to get a new steering box, the "used" one was junk. PS lines all plumbed. Just need to finalize cooling plumbing. Still need to install complete exhaust, just open headers right now. Also need to finish my PCV setup. One issue I have is the throttle body doesn't seem to have enough spring tension. It doesn't snap all the way back when pushing on the gas pedal. Using a Lokar throttle cable but seems to have a lot of friction in it. I have no sharp bends in the cable.

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Also got my brake lines mostly routed. Need to take care of a few loose ends though.

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Buddy,
Love your build. A lot of the questions that you have I also have. Couple of questions:
1)I see you ran the engine side of the wiring from the american autowire kit. Is there a reason for this? I though that the PSI harness ran everything for the engine? No?
2)What intake setup are you running?
3)What radiator set up did you go with?
4)For the brake lines did you buy a standard camaro kit and modify it or bend your own for a full custom set up?

Also when you run the pvc stuff can you do a detailed install? I need to figure this out also. Also have any picture of how you ran the battery setup? Im curious as to how you ran everything, Im working on that now...Thanks for all the help. Im sure it feels awesome to finally hear her purr...

[BuddyP]

Thanks Vince.... nice lookin PS hose eh?!

Yes some of the wires from the AAW are required. Ignition, oil and temp send for gauges, wiper motor and power to electric fan. That's pretty much it. PSI harness has everything for the motor. The second group of wires of the AAW (that has the green wires) are healights, turn and horn.

Intake are Spectre parts that I pieced together. Filter is just a K&N bought from Autozone.

Radiator I bought off ebay from a guy just north of Detroit. Can't remember the name.

Yes, bought brake line kit form Inline Tube and modified/bent to fit. I seemed to button up better than I had expected.

As soon as I receive my oil catch can from Mike Norris I'll deffinatly post up the PCV setup. Basically have put a PCV provision in the rear of the drivers and front of the pass side valve cover. One hose will go from front of intake to catch can, then from catch can to back drivers side. Other hose will go from TB to front of passenger valve cover. I'll post pics hopefully soon.

[Roberts68]

Congrats on the milestone!

I heard mine run last summer for the first time in 8 years so I know something of the thrill you must have felt, only yours was with an entirely new beast between the wheelwells!

I have the same Master cylinder and combo prop valve but mine will mount a bit differently. Which kit did you start with and modify to suit?


I was wondering how did you resolve the header to PS gear clearance issue?

Also, forgive me for not reading back but what Transmission are you running?

And lastly, I will just echo everyone else about the gauges and the car in general. Keep it up Buddy, looking great!

[Auto Rod Technologies]

Nice clean look!!

[BuddyP]

I started with Inline Tube kit for '68 camaro. It was the standard disc brake kit in stainless. Didn't have to modify very much. I came out pretty good.

As far as the header to PS clearance, when I swapped gearboxes I shaved the flange of the header at a bit of an angle. That seemed to do the trick.

Tranny is a T56 out of '06 GTO

Thanks for the kind words! It helps keep the frustrations down LOL!


Congrats on the milestone!

I heard mine run last summer for the first time in 8 years so I know something of the thrill you must have felt, only yours was with an entirely new beast between the wheelwells!

I have the same Master cylinder and combo prop valve but mine will mount a bit differently. Which kit did you start with and modify to suit?


I was wondering how did you resolve the header to PS gear clearance issue?

Also, forgive me for not reading back but what Transmission are you running?

And lastly, I will just echo everyone else about the gauges and the car in general. Keep it up Buddy, looking great!

[MrQuick]

I wish I would have gone with a 90 at the end.... :P

[boostin05blacksti]

Buddy,
Any more info on the brake line setup you used? I have the same brakes, and master. I dont have the same block under the master. Inline is telling me to run a 70-72 brass distribution block under the master, is that what you did? I really would like to keep it as clean as possible. Is yours from wilwood or inline tube? Im getting ready to order and would like a similar look to your setup. Thanks,
Steven

[Roberts68]

Steven, Not to comment for Buddy but I will. I just bought the same combination Prop valve/distribution block from Speedway. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Wilwood-Adjustable-Proportioning-Block,41747.html

Best price around by far on this item.

Tobin at Kore3 has a cool Stainless bracket I picked up that mounts it under the master horizontally, I have that but haven't mocked it all up yet except by eyeballing it without bolts,
trial fitting the parts and lining up the holes. It looks very compact and I am stoked to get it in there.

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[boostin05blacksti]

Thanks for the reply man! Time to do what I do best..spending more money. Buddy, sorry for going off topic, Looking forward to more updates. Thanks, Steven

[BuddyP]

Been a couple months but still some decent progress. Got coolant in the motor to find out the next day that my new heater core was leaking.... yup, rip it back out. One of the tubes was not soldered in well. Got it built back up and re-installed. Hope it's good now since the fenders are on.

Had gotten the inner fenders and fender, header panel jambs painted for assembly. Also had the valve covers painted to match. Inner and outer fenders are now installed. Used all stainless fasteners. Motor is pretty much buttoned up. Received my oil catch can from Mike Norris and have the PCV lines ran.

We are now about ready to take up to local shop for paint. Just need to get a couple other items squared away first. Will be looking for a set of wheels after paint.

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[CliffS]

You made some big steps Buddy! Do you have a good paintshop?

[BuddyP]

You made some big steps Buddy! Do you have a good paintshop?

Yes, fortunate to have a friend that owns a local paint shop and has recenlty built a very nice PT '68 camaro for himself. He's been a great help to this point. Ready for paint at this point, just waiting for him to get some other vehicles pushed out of the shop to fit mine in.

[CliffS]

Yes, fortunate to have a friend that owns a local paint shop and has recenlty built a very nice PT '68 camaro for himself. He's been a great help to this point. Ready for paint at this point, just waiting for him to get some other vehicles pushed out of the shop to fit mine in.

Lucky you if you only think about those horror paint-jail stories.

[BuddyP]

Finally got coolant in the motor I hope for good. Was fighting a slight leak around my cooling fan switch that I had threaded into the coolant system. After being tapped, leaking, wrecking threads, getting new fan switch, welding on a bung and so for I am now proud to say I have a (as of now anyway) non leaking $100+ cooling fan switch! Only now to find another small puddle under the motor. As I was having a nervous breakdown thinking it was a head gasket I saw some coolant seeping around the hose coming off my steam port. Looks like it trickled down the front of the head and followed the head gasket around to the side of the motor then dripped on the floor. Soooo, so far so good. I have yet to have the car up to temperature. I'll cover my eyes for that........

Oh and I think.... think... I have all the leaks taken care of on the #&@*# stainless steel brake lines connections. I'd use standard brake line if I did it again!

Now just waiting to get it in for paint. Also almost have my adjustable rear spoiler mocked up.

[BuddyP]

Still waiting to get it in for paint. In the mean time I got my adjustable spoiler mocked up. This mock up is with a simple cardboard template. Am having the actual spoiler laster cut.

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[Motown 454]

I thought it was the real one. The car islooking great.

[Steve68]

now I know why you sold me that GM stocker, damn!!!!

[BuddyP]

Well, car is still locked up in paint jail.... so as of now, here's an updated rendering.

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[srh3trinity]

That new rendering is AWESOME!

[Auto Rod Technologies]

Car's looking good, who's painting this baby?

[BuddyP]

Car's looking good, who's painting this baby?
Got a local buddy of mine that runs a paint shop painting it.



Spoiler is finished and ready to install once I get the car back from paint

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[MrQuick]

Looking good Buddy, can't wait to see that bad boy on the car.

Thanks again for the business. Remind me to get you a set of pull hooks later.

[BuddyP]

Looking good Buddy, can't wait to see that bad boy on the car.

Thanks again for the business. Remind me to get you a set of pull hooks later.

Thank you Vince! It turned out great. I'll deffinatly hit you up on the pull hooks. Thanks!

[Auto Rod Technologies]

Sweet, anxious to see how it turns out.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

hell yea man that thangs gonna be bad!

[Karls73]

Awesome job.

[syborg tt]

Just went through the entire thread - Really nice Build.

[BuddyP]

Thanks Marty, it's coming along decent at the paint shop. Hope to see it in primer in another couple weeks. Paint right after that!

Just need to find a smokin deal on a set of wheels now.

[BuddyP]

In Primer.....

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[tommycomfort]

Exciting progress!

[Roberts68]

Awesome Buddy! I was just outside and I think I could feel your anticipation in the night air.:cheers:

[Lenie]

Attababy Buddy.

[Camaro1968]

Looking great! Good thread too, definitely subscribing

[RBEAST]

seems like forever to get it done dont it ? looking great ! how much longer till paint wanna see it done lol already

[MrQuick]

haa looks awesome buddy.

[JMitch19]

Lets see some color!

[BuddyP]

seems like forever to get it done dont it ? looking great ! how much longer till paint wanna see it done lol already

You're not kidding, Hope to see it with paint in a couple more weeks!

[Lenie]

Buddy, I bought that two week line from my painter a couple of times.... Went and took my car back two years later. Hope to see yours soon, really like what your doing to it.

[MrQuick]

lets just hope you don't have to do too much clean up.

[BuddyP]

Thanks Lenie!

Yeah the dust from the shop is gonna suck to clean up. Probably be a full weekend detail job.

[BuddyP]

Still waiting for final paint..... so here's a pic of the harnesses I picked up. Impact individual shoulder wrap arounds.

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[BuddyP]

We now have paint! Is still in the paint shop, still needs rubbed out then will be home soon. Now I need to figure out wheel color....

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[MrQuick]

looking good.....Black wheels!!

[BuddyP]

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[BuddyP]

looking good.....Black wheels!!

Thanks Vince, yeah that was my first thought on wheels and also what a few other said as well. After seeing the paint on the car it's a bit darker than I thought I'd be which got me pondering on brushed centers.

Here's the potential wheel choice.... So black center or brushed?
And if it matters, car is minitubbed but with stock width rear end.

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[syborg tt]

I bet your getting excited.....

[tommycomfort]

Awesome progress!

[jreut703]

Love the color and great build thanks for keeping us up to date on everything. Makes you want to get out in the garage.

[compos mentis]

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[CruizinKev]

:drool: oh nice!!

[BuddyP]

Looks good skip!

I ended up ordering the wheels brushed with polished hoops, figured this way I can always have them coated if I decided to. Half tempted to keep the brushed center and do satin black hoops.... I have a few days to change my mind.

[colt zantop]

MAN ITS LOOKING KILLER! nice...nice....nice....

[eric1967]

Looks good skip!

I ended up ordering the wheels brushed with polished hoops, figured this way I can always have them coated if I decided to. Half tempted to keep the brushed center and do satin black hoops.... I have a few days to change my mind.


I like the idea of brushed center & satin black hoops.

[BuddyP]

I like the idea of brushed center & satin black hoops.

Well I chickened out on the black hoops. I ended up actually doing brushed centers with smoke clear coat finish and polished hoops. I can always powder coat the hoops down the road. Should see the wheels on my porche in 2 weeks!

[RBEAST]

you mentioned the steering box was junk and was from a 3rd gen camaro, what did you use to replace it? is the ratio faster on the new box than what would have been the original box? I've done alot of work on my 68 including tubular control arms uppers and lowers,all new ball joints,tie rod ends,idler arm, pitman arm, pretty much everything under front end except steering box and it dosen't feel right so im thinking its the box .... just checking options I really want this thing to handle better. thanks


franko

[syborg tt]

Here is a snap shot of an old post on GM Boxes


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[BuddyP]

you mentioned the steering box was junk and was from a 3rd gen camaro, what did you use to replace it? is the ratio faster on the new box than what would have been the original box? I've done alot of work on my 68 including tubular control arms uppers and lowers,all new ball joints,tie rod ends,idler arm, pitman arm, pretty much everything under front end except steering box and it dosen't feel right so im thinking its the box .... just checking options I really want this thing to handle better. thanks


franko

Franko, yeah the box was used and ended up being worn out. Replaced it with a reman Z box from Advanced auto. It was under $120. Just used my "old" box for a core. Same box, same ratio.

[BuddyP]

Car finally posted bail at paint jail and is now home again. The anticipation on the drive home from work knowing I was going to pick it up tonight was a rush in itself. Right now it is all platinum silver with satin black tail pan. Will be doing something in the way of stripes but that will be down the road, and after this thing is on the road. As soon as it was unloaded off the dolly and in the garage I didn't hesitate to start assembling a few trim items that had been awaiting in boxes in the garage. Installed the new door handles, marker lights and billet gas cap from Ridetech. The unfortunate thing is all the body shop dust over everything on the car (and I mean everything). Got the trunk area and interior wiped down. Still need to go through the motor, subframe, underbody, etc., that'll keep me tied up for a few more days.

Oh, and wheels get shipped tomorrow!

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[T_Raven]

That color looks really good

[srh3trinity]

What color wheels are you going with? I have been thinking about a similar color. I will probably do a matte black wheel. It is looking great!

[BuddyP]

Wheels shipped today! Boze Lateral-G 18x9 front and 18x11.5 back. Polished lips with smoked clear over brushed centers.

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[armourmark]

Car is looking fantastic!! Did you roll the rear fender lip at all? I am struggling with where the outside edge of the tire should end up on the rear in relation to the fender.

[BuddyP]

Car is looking fantastic!! Did you roll the rear fender lip at all? I am struggling with where the outside edge of the tire should end up on the rear in relation to the fender.

Not yet.... I plan to though. I don't think I'll have a choice. I hope to have tires in within a couple weeks.

[srh3trinity]

That color looks great with your paint!

[tricktom1]

looking good

[Zanie]

Your paint looks fantastic!
You might want to double check your measurements before you mount your tires on those back wheels.

[BuddyP]

Plugging away slowly at re-assembling. Ordering parts, waiting for them to come in, forget about some order those, wait for them, forget some more...... it's a big viscious circle. Rear bumber and side window mounting componants should be in this week. Hoping to have wireing fully buttoned up this coming weekend.

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[MrQuick]

looks great buddy,

[compos mentis]

Lookin good Buddy. :twothumbs:

[Motown 454]

X2 I'm with Skip. Very Nice!

[colt zantop]

LOOKING GOOD! very very nice! I love the wheels.

[icemanrd19]

looks great

[BuddyP]

Got the remaining electrical finished up (Thanks Jason Mitchall!). Never thought turning on headlights would feel so exuberating! Everything worked except the brake lights, picked up a new brake switch at Autozone and got it installed. Everything works now.

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Also, Front tires came in today! Azenis 615K 265/35/18's

Backs will be here in a couple days then will get them mounted.

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[tommycomfort]

Looking great!

[geberhard]

Buddy, the car is looking amazing! What color is that? Gui

[BuddyP]

Buddy, the car is looking amazing! What color is that? Gui

Thanks! Platinum silver from 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee

Rear tires came in today.... 315/30/18's. Hope to get them mounted up the first of next week.

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[BuddyP]

Finally got the tires mounted on the rims. Car is currently at tranny shop (sore subject). Probably won't have it back until next week. So until then, I can't install them on the car.

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[syborg tt]

My God - please put them on the car !!!!!


Finally got the tires mounted on the rims. Car is currently at tranny shop (sore subject). Probably won't have it back until next week. So until then, I can't install them on the car.

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[Auto Rod Technologies]

Damn.. those look nice..

[csouth]

Nice color combo. I wish the Falkens came in 19", love the tread pattern.

[BuddyP]

As soon as I get the car back from tranny shop Marty!!!! (Should be Monday or Teusday at latest)

Yeah the tread pattern is pretty neat. Would've had Rivals but not all their sizes are available yet, and needed either 255 or 265 in the front of which they offer neither

[colt zantop]

those look SICK mounted!!! can't wait to see them on the car...

[BuddyP]

Car is back in my shop! Got a chance to mount the front wheels tonight....

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Also threw the front spoiler on tonight

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Here's with rear wheels installed, however, am pretty disappointed with the settings on the G-Link, with it setup on it's lowest and softest setting as you can see here it's still setting 3"-4" too high. Now I'll have to spend some more $$ on shorter spring with take up springs, etc., to get it to set right. So much for having all that adjustability. So with that said I just did a quick mount of the rear and pulled them back off. I plan on raising the front about an inch since the new springs will still want to settle.

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[CruizinKev]

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[Roberts68]

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Cherish this pic Buddy, that's a great one!
The wheel color could not be better with your car. Looks simply fantastic!

[csouth]

Looks good Buddy! Are you shooting to have this ready for GG Columbus?

[BuddyP]

Kevin, got them from Nasty Performance. I sent you a PM

Chris, as awsome as it would be, I doubt it. I think I'll be able drive it by then but won't have interior or the bugs worked out at that time. Funds are holding me up now. But I won't rule it out!

[BuddyP]

Cherish this pic Buddy, that's a great one!
The wheel color could not be better with your car. Looks simply fantastic!

The kids have been great! Thanks for the kind words, am really happy how they came out.

[csouth]

The kids have been great! Thanks for the kind words, am really happy how they came out.

The kids or the wheels?...lol JK
I know how it is with the funds. Now that I have more funds for the project, it seems like I don't have time to get the parts on...:banghead:

[BuddyP]

The kids or the wheels?...lol JK
I know how it is with the funds. Now that I have more funds for the project, it seems like I don't have time to get the parts on...:banghead:

I hear ya, but that's why I don't get to bed until 2am each night! It takes it's toll....

[BuddyP]

Got the exhuast put up under it Friday night. Had a Pypes 3" X pipe already and bought a couple Pypes Race Pro mufflers to tag on the end of em. Just need downturns and hanger but was at least able to fire it up and hear it. They don't seem to be overly loud at idle, and that's what I wanted. But does have a lot of bass to it. Will be intersted to hear if they mellow out when cruising down the road. They say these get good and loud when you punch it.

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[compos mentis]

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Looking good Buddy.

Hope to hear those Pypes soon. :D

[BuddyP]

Well here's a video of it running from today... however the microphone on the camera sucks so is a far cry from what it really sounds like.

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[syborg tt]

Looks awesome & sounds nice.

[BuddyP]

Thanks Marty! Just too bad the camera does such a poor job at picking up sound.

Now I just need to figure out why my fans won't kick on. I have my fan switch located just before on the entry point of the radiator. It is properly grounded and works when I "jump" the switch with a ground. I ran the car at idle up to 230 degrees but fans never kicked on. The switch is a 210 185. Would there be that much temp difference from the engine head to the radiator?

The switch does work, I pulled it out tonight and held a torch to it and the fans did kick on.

EDIT/UPDATE: I did an experiment tonight, plugged the steam vent line and stuck a turkey temp gauge in that location and let the car heat back up. It was always around 20 degrees behind the motor temp. It read 180 when motor read 200.... and read 215 when motor read 235. I shut it down after that. Switch didn't kick on so either didn't have enough time to heat soak to kick on or is a faulty switch. None the less I decided tonight I'm just going to get a cooler switch to compensate accordingly.

[Motown 454]

Sounds great! Looking like its getting close, very nice.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

uhggghh!!!

my god dude.. she looks BEAUTIFUL...

[BuddyP]

Thanks!... however it's just not quit "transformers" worthy :pat:


uhggghh!!!

my god dude.. she looks BEAUTIFUL...

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Id trade you that right ANY day.. lol!


but its definately streetfighter worthy..

[BuddyP]

Some more updated photos. Spent the weekend installing the door and quarter windows. They deffinatly took a little time but seemed to go in and was able to get them adjusted up fairly decently. Swapped out the rear shocks and get the back end down a little more, still sets a little high but want to see how much the shocks will settle. I have a little more adjustment down also. Now just need to finish hanging the exhaust, get it tuned, aligned and a license plate and will be able to drive er on the road! Interior will come later.

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[Mr.VENGEANCE]

awwwww man that looks great!

[DEIGuy38]

The car is lookin really good Buddy. I love the color and the wheels

[72Z/28]

Love everything about your car man, and it does sound great. Awesome job

[gordonr1973]

So nice!!

[BuddyP]

Good day today, took the car to the chassis dyno. It has only idled up to this point as it was too lean to get above idle much. So a tune and 5 pulls later the fresh 6.0 put out a comfortable 430 rwhp and 396 ft/lbs. HP peaked at 6100 with peak torque at 4600 and 300 ft\lb starting at 2800.

To top that it made it's maiden voyage this evening around the block.


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[craigs73]

NICE!!!!!!!! bet it was nice to get it out on the road for the first time!

[BuddyP]

NICE!!!!!!!! bet it was nice to get it out on the road for the first time!

It was great! Still hard to believe I'm actually driving the thing. Got close to 100 miles on it now, so far so good. It seems to drive really nice. Need to get some interior parts together now. That will be a slow project through winter probably.

[TheJDMan]

Great to hear it is out on the streets now! Now get ready for all the gawkers.

[colt zantop]

LOOKS KILLER!!! can't wait to see it in person!

[BuddyP]

Grocery getter.... any excuse to drive it at this point.

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[Motown 454]

Sweet !

[BuddyP]

300 mile update (first day on road 7-23-13).... so far so good. No leaks of any kind at this point. Motor seems to run strong and solid. Had some driveline vibration and after a few hours in the garage and a couple tries I got it smoothed out. Had some big angles with the lowered rear. Got the tranny shimmed up as far as I could and ended up doing the "Broke Back Configuration" for the driveline to keep the angles smaller. Am at 2.5 on each end of the shaft. Buzzed it down the highway tonight up to.... well, a "tad" over the speedlimit.... and seemed to be smooth. I think any small vibs at this point on the higher end are through the 'Cadillac' like suspension (Ha right), poly motor mounts, exhaust and everything else these things do to resonate through the car.

A couple things on the list now is to alter or swap out the damn door mirror that drops down every time I hit a decent bump or run at a higher speed and change out my PS pump pulley that's making a annoying belt squeal. After the cold weather starts to set in later this year I'll pull the exhaust to get a couple items altered and cleaned up. Then on to getting interior installed.

So at this point pretty happy. Haven't got it out as much as hoped but averaging a 100 miles a week so far. Starting to get more comfortable with it so will start venturing out a little further away from the homestead area.

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[cactuss4]

Sexy sexy sexy!!

[67zo6Camaro]

Grocery getter.... any excuse to drive it at this point.

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Now that puts the touring in Pro-Touring.

Nice Work.

[RBEAST]

I am going thru the same things as you are lol, driveline vibration was on my list too, and i finally got steering aligned much better than the shop i had attempt to do it the first 3 times and all i used was a tape measure unlike the shop with their fully computerized fancy rack... I like those azenzies you got , are they sticky? you've done quite a beautiful job with your 68 ... I still haven't taken my 68 out of town yet either but Im in las vegas and next town is in southern california so a little more shaking down before im ready for the road trip but hopefully soon! I didnt go the LS route you did but that is in the plan real soon as i already have the T56 trans and just looking for a good deal on motor. I have a little over 4 months in my build I couldn't imagine the timeline you had that would have driven me out of my mind lol ... But doing everything by myself didnt leave me at mercy of some shop owner and saved me thousands of dollars as well. still have interior to do but I may let a pro do that as I dont think i'll ever master a sewing machine and I've been trying ( guess I know where my limits are lol)
when i figure out how to post pics i will post my build (lol another one of my limits) but a long story short is WOW your ride is incredible hope you enjoy it for many years to come!!