i hate my job :/ sortof venting

[muthstryker]

yep i hate my job its hard to get up and go in the morning same with my dad (hes my boss). i dont get paid **** (lousy 8.50 an hour) i do so much (jack of all trades no really i am) im acutally the companys excavator i dig for the foundations and grade everything out. not bad for 17 i supose but its one of the owners of the company hes just a peice of !@#!, the other owner the one we have been staying with the company for its starting to belive everything his drug addict partner tells him. its just really frustrating. not only that they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP! he wants everything done for as low as possible and has us call the subs to ask them to lower there price. well the real world dont work like that. if you want quality work. you have to pay. well anyways im done for now better get back to work. yay..............

[OHCbird]

"the real world works like that"... true and false- it works the way it wants to, when it wants to. It won't ever be the same, no matter where you go. There are VERY few people out there that will just stand back, let you do it all the way you feel it should, and pay full dollar. Some guys like him get that way (bitter) from dealing with a-holes all the time, so when some (what they feel is) minor BS comes along, they don't feel like dealing with it, and other wind up bearing the load.

Dude- don't worry; you're 17 and have a long life ahead of you. If you get hung up on stuff like that at this early of an age- guess what you might wind up becoming?

Cheer up!

[shmoov69]

Yes, I must say that the real world DOES work that way! It shouldn't, but does! 99.9% of people want the best (whatever it may be) for the absolute cheapest! (IE. something for nothing!) If that were not true, Wal-Mart would not exist! Believe me, I am having a problem with a "good" contractor that wants our (my company's) quality, but want it for the price of the "pete in a pickup" with no overhead, expeirience, and quality for that matter! I have told people before, pay me now or pay me later! It sometimes is so true and they call me back after they get screwed by someone else. But most people still do it.
Just remember that times like this, and how you handle it is what will build your attitude for a long, long time to come! Just think of it as "character building"!! LOL! As you walk away muttering rattin, smattin, filthy, stinkin, flippin, stupid, stinkin, piece of filthy, trash, worthless people!

[nancejd]

If people want the best, they certainly don't go to Walmart. It's more like the worst for the least. In general, people do not value labor, they only value the finished product. Look at how much people complain about the cost of body work on a car. If they think it costs too much, they are free to do it themselves. In order to understand why you should pay one person more to dig a ditch than another guy, you need to understand at some level that there is a qualitative difference in ditches in the first place. That's why pay has relatively little to do with skill related to the particular field it is associated with.

[muthstryker]

see my dad gets the bids from the sub contractors and this guy says ok go with them. then when they are done and send in there bill the same as the bid he says its too high and wants it lower.

example


painters bid 15,000

owner says go with them

painter gets done and sends in his bill for 15,000

owner says nope hes to much call them and have them lower their price...



why confirm a price then say no to high lower it..

its things like that.

[harshman]

you'll run out of paint companies who will work for you running it that way. bail and bail fast (i'm a gen. contractor).

[muthstryker]

its not only the paint companys. its EVERY sub that comes out works for us. then he yells at my dad because noone wants to work for the company. and this is a very very small town and ppl talk alot.

[4MuscleMachines]

Seems like your Dad is making most of the decisions and finding the subs. It's just the owner that pays the bill when it comes. Time to go out on your own.

[muthstryker]

my dad is more then capleable of running his own company but its the funds that stops him or he would. i even know how to do his job they just wont let me ive called people for him and stuff having my dad as the superintendent really helps i know how to call in for inspections, know how to read plans properly (i actually catch things the framers miss)

[MrQuick]

your 17, The way I see it you got a head start in the business.

Learn as much as you can, get as much training as humanly possible. If theres a license you can aquire will on the job do it. Then as soon as you get the oppurtunity branch out on your own or get a partner and do you best.

A wise assss once said: Its not what you do now but how you prepare for the future.

[muthstryker]

i was thinking about taking a construction managment class at the local college to kind of help but i also want to get my certification for machine operator but that is 7,000 and that could be alot of parts for the gto :D haha

[MrQuick]

...don't make the mistake of passing a great opportunity to make more money by spending money on a car that will still be there.

Make the money first then you can have what you want later. I sound like a freeking fortune cookie!

[TonyHuntimer]

Yes, I must say that the real world DOES work that way! It shouldn't, but does! 99.9% of people want the best (whatever it may be) for the absolute cheapest! (IE. something for nothing!) If that were not true, Wal-Mart would not exist!

It does work that way. That's how Summit and Jegs are killing all the speed shops.

my $.02
Tony~

[aonghus]

I'll probobly get knocked for this.... but what the hey.

If you're unhappy about making $8.50 an hour, quit. You choose to do what you're doing. Find something that isn't mannual labor. When I was 17, I said to myself, "Since I don't have a degree and can't start a 'career' yet, what job can I do that isn't completley unskilled, what is something people would rather not do?'

Thats where you get more $. At least being around our age group. I'm not talking cleaning out port-o-lou's or anything.

For me I figured, most people hate approaching strangers, especially to sell them things. Why not sell stuff in a store? Learn to deal with people and to sell what you want. Not to mention the people you'll end up meeting.

I worked for a year hauling vending machines, (I'm a big dude I can move a 72"er by myself) Doing landscape work like laying out pallets of sod, building fences and digging ditches. As satisfying as working with my hands is I'd rather save that joy for working on my '68. There is far more money to be made for far less effort...

C

[go-fish]

When I was framing houses I had a similar situation. The boss man was a cheap skate but was teaching me alot and I knew I was "paying my dues". Then one day the foreman came to work crankin' hard and started beef with me because I was supposedly trying to take his spot. In reality I was coming into my prime. I went to another guy, who built much more pricey homes, worked one day at what I made before then got a raise by like four dollars. He was a very honest guy and knew he would be making more money having me on. I would have been held back so much by staying with the other guys. The old boss man even wanted me back when the crack head started losing him business.

So my advice, go to your competitor and get a job or find a construction company that will pay for you to get licensed. When it comes to your old man, he shouldn't be mad at you for wanting to find a better situation. I don't want to sound like a Navy recruiter because I don't try to convert people to my religion or get people to join the military, it is a personal choice. But, you could get college money and get every license from 40 ton crane to excavator as an Equipment Operator in the Navy Reserve SeaBee's, the Navy's Civil Engineer Corps. Believe it or not, but with the new congress you wouldn't have to worry as much about getting called up to go to war. There is a reserve Battalion in Whidby Island, Washington too. I got my licenses and everyone on the outside who is anyone accepts them. I'm planning on using my GI Bill for WyoTech too.

At least see how much one of your competitors would pay you, it could be used as ammunition for a raise at your current job. Just tell them what your skills are. You never know.

[Bandit]

I worked for a year hauling vending machines, (I'm a big dude I can move a 72"er by myself) Doing landscape work like laying out pallets of sod, building fences and digging ditches. As satisfying as working with my hands is I'd rather save that joy for working on my '68. There is far more money to be made for far less effort...

C

Good point, I used to do manual labor for a living, I worked for a small truck painting company that had a huge and demanding workload. I capped out at $10 an hour, the most the owner could pay me. The only way I could make more was to log hours commercial sandblasting, working my butt off! (Extra $4 an hour) $16 an hour, not bad for a young guy with only a high school degree, but I chose to move on. The job was hard and thankless. The owner practically begged me to stay, but I just couldn't see anywhere else to go in that business. I got into the IT field--best career move I ever made! Now I no longer count down my hours at work, I make more than I did before and don't work nearly as hard. I'm glad I left, in retrospect almost 10 years later, I would probably be in about the same situation had I stayed with my old job. I still enjoy manual labor, but at least I can do it as a hobby and not have to kill myself just to feed my family!

You're still young, keep a good attitude, get as much experience as you can, save as much money as you can for now, then when the time is right get out and move on. Consider higher education as an option, there's always ways to do it. Look for the learning opportunities where your at, if nothing else you will find good examples of what NOT to do in your next job. Sometimes that's all you need for motivation!

[Jim Nilsen]

Paying DUES, I remember getting a job for little money doing maintenance work and slowly getting a bit more money with each review. Then one day they layed me off because I made toooo much maoney,LOL. I then went to a major corporation that paid very well and applied. They required 3 years experience, I had exactly 3 years experience. Made $3 more per hr right off the start. You have to pay your dues or become a member of a group or club to make real big money in this world. I have paid a lot of union dues to make a lot of money.

The world we live in wants everything for nothing and has been that way for a long time. When you have a contract or bid for a job it is all in how you write in the fine print on how well things turn out. Mt brother forgot to put the clause in on a bid this summer on a job that normally states that any other unseen damage is paid for by the customer. The job cost him a bunch in labor he had to eat and it was a friend of a friend thing. Your dad needs to find someone to help him with his bidding contracts and when they want to get a lower price after the job is done, he will be able to laugh and point at the clause in the contract and collect what he bid the job for. You can't knock a guy for trying for a better price but a deal is a deal when it is in writing. You may lose a person you don't want to work for anyway but you won't lose any money for what you did.

It's a give and take thing but being 17 you will be giving for a while before you get to earn what you are worth. Let your dad deal with it and just ride it out and keep your own respect in perspective.

Don't worry about the car if you can use the money to make yourself earn more. Many people ask? What is the best thing I can invest in? It is of coarse yourself! The better you become the more you will make and it is best to start out early than late because you want something NOW that you can get a better one later.

Goodluck, Jim Nilsen

[Bad Bowtie]

...don't make the mistake of passing a great opportunity to make more money by spending money on a car that will still be there.

Make the money first then you can have what you want later. I sound like a freeking fortune cookie!

I admit I made the mistake! Dad says go to college he'll pay half, but nnoooo I just graduate from 12 years of school why would I want 4 more years. Needless to say had I took that advice 21 years ago I probably could have had Frank & Michael @ Prodigy building my cars:twothumbs . I have gotten wiser though. I listen a lot more carefully to dads advice.
BB

[brabbit50422]

school of some kind is the way to go in this world you gotta have a piece of paper otherwise society isnt built for you to succeed. i worked a manual labor job from the time i was 13 till i was 20 as a 6th generation commercial fisherman wasnt easy at all up at 3 home at 430 tired cold wet and smelling like a dead fish. plus the industry is way over crowded so i decided that it was great for a summer job and getting threw high school but college was the way to go. now im in the long haul for an engineering degree and i think ill be better for it.

p.s- i also worked construction in the winter for extra cash and it aint no walk in the park plus those people can be really cheap getting a good boss deffinetly counts so really do what you gotta do dont stay on a sinking ship

[6'9"Witha69]

At least see how much one of your competitors would pay you, it could be used as ammunition for a raise at your current job. Just tell them what your skills are. You never know.When doing this there is some advice with it. Never use another job as leverage you wouldn't actually want to do. You might end up doing it!

I did sub work (residential demolition) for a while in my late teens. Getting out on my own was great. Glad I never had an invoice rejected when it was within bid. I would never work for that guy again.

School, education, training, degrees/accredidations/licenses and experience are all driving factors in what you will get paid. Since you are 17 heed the advice of those down the path ahead of you, there is competition out there for work. The beeter prepared you are, the more you can make.

[steemin]

Time to say Good bye and good riddance..
Life is to short to be miserable...
Besides if you are working in an enviroment like that you are not really learning anything.
I would suggest finding a job with a company that has its **** together. Working for a dynamic organization you will learn more about how the process should work. This will serve you well later in life as you may wish to someday own your own business. Why work for an idiot that doesn't know what he is doing and screws you every week on payday?

Scott
p.s. This is the voice of experience speaking.Been there done that!

[indyjps]

its good experience, youll find most companies are run by *******s, you may get lucky and have a decent direct boss from time to time.

I hate my job too, thats why im quitting in exactly 95 minutes.

i gotta make it to lunch, take the remainder of my vacation so im sure ill get paid for it, wait for my direct deposit to hit the bank, close the account and only then will i mail my company credit card, ID, and equipment back to them, im gone.

[go-fish]

Sounds like Office Space. At least you don't have to wear flare.

[muthstryker]

if we do deiced to go it wont be untill after xmas, i will probaly go to work for our family firend as he is a gen contractor as well, ive done side jobs for him befor and hes just much better to work for. not because we have known him forever but he is just a much much better contractor. and the guys i work for now used to be great untill the original owner did a partnership with the cheap ass. heres a link to the pictures of some of the houses that have been done http://cedarbrookhomesllc.com/photo.html

[muthstryker]

hmm well was woken up by my dad to have him tell me the company is laying me off...they said there isnt enough work for me right now when i could stay busy for about 2-3 months with every thing that needs done. but oh well im kind of glad but kind of upset becuase they couldnt wait untill after xmas.