what type of suspension for 69 bird

[philman]

Hello to all, this is my first question to this forum. I apologize if this is a redundant question. So I have picked up a 69 firebird and would to upgrade the stock suspension components. The car will not be an all out protouring ride due to cost constraints however I would like it handle better wthin reason. I have done my homework on the possibilities rack/pinon subframe,air bags etc. My budget is limited to about 1500 to 2000 for this aspect of the project. What would you guys recommend to give me the best handling vs cost in the parameters I have given. Thanks in advance.

[chicane67]

Global West control arms, do the "Guldstrand Modification", shocks (like Bilsteins), springs (many to choose from), ATS steering box and bolt on a stay bar (Hotchkis) to compliment.

All of this could be done for 1500 - 2000.

Dump the idea of rack and pinion... its a waste and bags wont fit into that budget unless that is all you want to do and dont replace anything else... which isnt safe and doesnt get you any where you need to be in the end.

[rohrt]

For that Budget look into the Hotchkis TVS system.

[JLM]

I'd listen to Chicane67 on this one.

This is the route I've elected on my 69 bird.

G-Mod with stock UCA and LCA's
Delrin bushings
Bilstein shocks
AFCO 800 lb/in. springs with hidden adjusters
Hotchkis 1 1/4" hollow front sway bar
Poly bushed front eye drop leafs. Probably a custom set to compliment the high rate front springs.
Bilstein shocks in the rear.

Then of course a good set of tires.

[69TAPoser]

I am using Global West control arms on the front of my Bird as well (with QA1 shocks). But I am not "on the ground" yet.

Phil

[jerome]

what are hidden adjusters?
i assume they just are used for adjusting corner weights and heights?

Jerome

[JLM]

The hidden adjusters are a perch and thread base for the spring. They mount in the LCA below the spring and allow for adjustable ride heigh, the benefit of which helps with corner weighting.

If you run the AFCO 5.5 x 9.5 springs this gives you a nice drop with about 2.5-3" of adjustability.

On top of that, this combination is rather inexpensive. The AFCO springs come in around $60.00 per and the adjusters are around $40.00.

[68Formula]

Let's start with: How do you intend to use this car? 100% street, 100% track, or some mixture (roughly X% street vs. Y% track)?

[ProBell]

I also agree with chicane67. I would spend the money on fixing the front end geometry. The bolt on parts are a good way to go but if you have a local chassis shop give them a call.They may be able to build you some thing custom that fits your needs. Northern Fabrication gave me a great price . That is how I started, Then I went a little nuts.
Good luck with your project. Randy

[Tom Welch]

Chicane speaks wisdom on this one.

[chicane67]

Or.... the ATS spindle, Del-a-lum bushings in the control arms, Bilstein shocks, front and rear springs and a stay bar.

[BonzoHansen]

For that Budget look into the Hotchkis TVS system.
And check GP Superstore for a Hotchkis G/P, and Hotchkis for a $150 rebate!