69 Firebird Build

[dropit69]

oh damn ..that is so sweet ..is the sub frame black?..pics man pics !!!!

[sik68]

Awesome! Can't wait to see it in the car!!

[cdoggy81]

Looking forward to seeing them as well :)

[69TAPoser]

The subframe comes uncoated and it still is. I need to test fit everything as SpeedTech doesn't make Poncho engine mounts yet. Once I test fit everything in the car, I will take everything back apart have the subframe powder coated matte black to match other components (wheels, valve covers, etc.).

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Speedtech subframe in the raw...working on transferring everything over. Once I get everything installed and the Pontiac engine mounts fabbed, I will disassemble and have the frame powder coated:
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Simpson camlock belts:
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Budnik steering wheel (set in place (crooked) but not installed yet):
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Phil

[Motown 454]

That looks sweet! It will look great when its powder coated. That shot of the interior looks good, those belts will hold you in there. Keep the updates coming.
Wayne

[CliffS]

Awesome Phil! Needed that Poncho drug :naughty:

[pchdrive]

Just a "Merry Christmas" shout out to you and the family Phil!
I know it has been a long project. Looks great and I hope 2009 is the year when "wicked bird" flys. Post up some new pics when you can.
All the best,
Rich

[cdoggy81]

Nice :)

[69TAPoser]

Hi Rich-

Merry Christmas to you and your family!

I have the motor set in the new sub and have had my fabricator over to look at mocking up some motor mounts. We will need to tweak the stock Pontiac mounts and build new perches. He mocked up a set, but is now on vacation until th end of next week, so "WickedBird" is sitting idle for the holidays. :sick:

Phil

[Motown 454]

It will defenitely be worth the wait.

[icebird84]

truly excellent work , this Bird will out life us all :1st:

[69TAPoser]

Just a quick update, I put the new subframe under the car today with the motor and headers for a final mockup. Everthing lines up nice!

I just need to have my welder over to final weld the motor mounts. and then I disassemble everything from the subframe, have it powdercoated, and put it all back together!

Phil

[1971CHEVELLE]

This car is going to be awesame.

[Motown 454]

You should be able to put it back together blind folded lol . Glad to hear its moving along . Wayne

[69TAPoser]

Here are some pics (ride height has not been adjusted):

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Link to more info: http://www.69taposer.citymax.com/subframe2.html

Phil

[SamHatco]

Looks great Phil, looks like your over the hump and pretty close to paint.

Sam

[f1shman]

:drool: I'm going to short circuit my keyboard one of these days from drooling over this thread. Great job Phil! I can't wait to see more updates from you, and to start seeing your car around at some New England events!

[Motown 454]

Lookin good Phil !

[Lenie]

Phil, I've always liked that engine of yours and man does it look good sitting in your new subframe. Congrats and keep em' coming.
Lenie

[jayb53guy]

Man, that looks purty! :)

[69TAPoser]

Thanks guys, your encouragement provides motivation! :)

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Now that I have confirmed that everything aligns, I (again) removed the subframe from under the car, put the motor on a dolly, and started stripping all the components off of the subframe.

Speedtech sent me some additional gusset supports for the shock mount area (I believe they were getting some deflection under heavy road racing), so once I have it stripped, my welder will be back over to weld the gussets and final weld the engine mounts (they are currently just tacked in place).

...then off to the powdercoater and FINAL frontend assembly!

Phil

[Munster]

Nicey, nicey.

[69TAPoser]

Got a little bling from Marqez Design today:

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...Very nice pieces.

Tomorrow we do all of the final welding on the subframe and I will post some pics.

Phil

[Motown 454]

Those are sweet Phil !

[SamHatco]

I have been thinking of getting those for my car. What about backup lights? Do you lose them? Car is looking great!

Sam

[454bug]

Got a little bling from Marqez Design today:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

...Very nice pieces.

Tomorrow we do all of the final welding on the subframe and I will post some pics.

Phil

Boy, those Marquez guys have some REALLY nice products!!!

Keep up the great job!

[69TAPoser]

I have been thinking of getting those for my car. What about backup lights? Do you lose them? Car is looking great!

Sam

Hi Sam-

You are correct, no white area of the lenses for the reverse light.

The engine mounts on the subframe have been final welded. We also added guessets to the upper control arm mounting area that Speedtech had sent me. I believe they were getting some deflection in this area during road racing.

It is off to the powdercoaters on Monday!

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Phil

[69TAPoser]

back from the powdercoater in matte black and reassembly has begun...

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...progress!!!

Phil

[Motown 454]

One word SWEET ! It looks excelent. Phil did you use the breather like Payback used on his valve covers ?

[69TAPoser]

One word SWEET ! It looks excelent. Phil did you use the breather like Payback used on his valve covers ?

Thanks!

Funny you mention it, I did see that breather. I am looking into that as an option. :)

Phil

[WS6]

so pretty it's almost a shame that it has to be covered by a body.

[69TAPoser]

Test-fitting the Marquez taillights in the body:
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...The trunk is already final painted and the overspray is what you see in the taillight body "rungs." Once the body is final painted, I think these will look killer.

Phil

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

wow those look great!.. how many months did you wait for them tail lights to come..


lol.

[69TAPoser]

wow those look great!.. how many months did you wait for them tail lights to come..


lol.

About a month. It just took a little reminder. :secret:

Phil

[Motown 454]

Those will look sweeet against the color your using. They will really offset the darker color.

[f1shman]

Those do look sharp. What are your plans for reverse lights?

[69TAPoser]

Those do look sharp. What are your plans for reverse lights?

What are reverse lights? :ssst:

Phil

[gearheads78]

Everything is looking killer. Love the subframe and the lights you went with.

[69TAPoser]

Primed the 455 tonight. It was good to see some oil flowing through the rockers even if it was being manually pumped!

I need to tie-up a few loose ends, but should be able to fire the Poncho this week! :fingersx:

Phil

[Motown 454]

Sweet post a video, I'll be watching for it.

[69TAPoser]

It's almost fitting that on the day that it is leaked Pontiac will be shut down...my Pontiac comes to life!

About 2 months shy of the 3-year anniversary of the build.....IT'S ALIVE!!!!!! :woot:

Tonight we ran the engine for the 1st time on my freind Kurt's home built test stand. We ran it for about 15 minutes and it ran right at 175 degrees with 50 psi of oil pressure at idle.

The crappy movie below is taken from my phone, IT SOUNDS MUCH BETTER IN PERSON!!! The carb was custom built by a friend of mine that specializes in custom built holley's and the thing is nasty. It combines holley and demon-like qualities and has a hair trigger with absolutely no hesitation.

The video sound sucks...but check it out:

http://www.69taposer.citymax.com/f/262006968581.mov

Getting closer!

Phil

[Munster]

Congrats on your new born.

[CliffS]

Congrats Phil, getting closer indeed!!!!

[cmarcus]

Congrats, Phil! I just finished reading your thread from beginning to end! I know my uncle has a FB that has been sitting in storage for years now. This makes me think I should give him a call...although I doubt he would part with it! And I don't know if I can wait three years! Again, a BEAUTIFUL car! I am on my way to your build page!

[dropit69]

congrats Phil but damn get a cam and some real video..lol...

[Motown 454]

Congratulations Phil I'm glad you got to hear it run. When are you figuring on droping it in?
As far as another video I agree I couldn't get this one to play , so I'll watch for the next one. :twothumbs

[SamHatco]

Man... that is one strong sounding poncho. I hope you bought stock in a tire store. The torq those pontiac engines make your going to go through rear tires pretty often. Nice job! :1st:

Sam

[69TAPoser]

Here's a better video:

http://www.69taposer.citymax.com/enginerun.html

...It does not have a wild cam, but the entire package was designed to work together well and reach peak hp at 5500 rpm (longevity). I am leaving a little hp on the table (lift) with a relatively mild cam (hydraulic roller). The software dyno says 525 hp and 550 ft lbs of torque and we think that is probably pretty close. I will post the engine specs later today.

As you will see from the stand and the garage (a friend of mine), this is a "backyard build." :)

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Engine Specs:
- 455 (+.030)
- 9.5:1 CR
- Crane Custom Roller Cam – 230-236 (@.050”) -114 L/S
- Crane Roller Lifters
- 1.65 Harland Sharp roller rockers
- Edelbrock RPM Aluminum Heads - ported (flow 283)
- Cometic Head Gaskets
- Kauffman Valley Tray
- BHJ SFI Steel Harmonic Damper
- Torker II Intake (HPC Coated)
- TRW Pistons
- ARP Bolts and Studs throughout
- Balanced and Blueprinted
- BOP Rear Main Seal
- Flowcooler Water Pump
- MSD Billet Distributor and Coil
- Canton Road Race Oil Pan
- Lakewood Scatter Shield
- Aluminum SFI Hays Flywheel
- March pullies
- Custom built holley carb

Phil

[69TAPoser]

It's rolling again...! :yeah:

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...Transmission is bolted backup with the new hyrdraulic clutch.

Onto buttoning up the brake lines and getting to work on the wiring.

Phil

[gearheads78]

It's rolling again...! :yeah:


...Transmission is bolted backup with the new hyrdraulic clutch.

Onto buttoning up the brake lines and getting to work on the wiring.

Phil

Kick ass man!!! Keep going........

[SamHatco]

Great progress, Phil! As they say one project at a time. This car will be so cool. Looking foward to more updates.

Sam

[CliffS]

SWEET Phil, keep it coming!!!

[69TAPoser]

Some minor updates, but I feel like I can start to see the light at the end of the tunnel (but then again, maybe that is an oncoming train) :)

Decided to go with a RobbMc hig volume mechanical pump (the fuel line looks close to the belt in the pics, but it is not):

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Headers installed (again)...
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Fuel line routing:
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Phil

[Motown 454]

That pump looks like it will push some fuel. Looks good ...

[SamHatco]

This build is so clean you must use surgical gloves. Awsome build. :1st: Keep it up.

Sam

[zman1969]

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Dang Phil that is super clean- too bad it wont stay that clean for long when driven :scared:- keep up the good work - LOOKING GREAT!

[69TAPoser]

Thanks guys. Let's just say that I am looking VERY forward to the day that I have to clean it! :drive:

Dropped off my core support, doors, and fenders at the media blaster today. I am hoping it will start looking like a car within the next 4 weeks! :twothumbs

I also removed the driver's side header (again) as the steering shaft for the rack is clearance issue. I know this may be coming. So I have a "tube" shop re-routing 1 header tube. Of course I will then need to have the headers re-coated. :sick:

Oh well, all in the name of progress!!!

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Warning: naked parts! :geek:

Doors and fenders back from the sandblaster today. The pics are of the totally stripped parts. The doors are unreal. The previous owner had ordered these from the midwest back in the mid-90s (i have the receipt) they are mint!

The fenders are from CA. A small repair required on each one, but they are both in VERY nice shape. Way better than using repro fenders...

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...The lighter color on the panels looks like primer, but is actually where the sandblaster used a more aggressive media. Eveything you see is bare metal.

Phil

[Motown 454]

They look good Phil. Its nice to see good sheetmetal instead of swish cheese.

[pchdrive]

Hey Phil,
Looking good. You are getting closer man and doing an excellent job!
Rich

[69TAPoser]

Wow how time flies! This weekend marks the 3-year anniversary of when I picked up the '69 project.

I am on vacation alone this week (kids are at summer camp and the wife is working), so I hope to make lots of progress on the Bird! My body shop is getting the fenders in primer and the inners/core support in final paint. I hope to have the front end on by the end of this week! :fingersx:

Here's some progress I made in the engine bay:

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I hope everyone had a great 4th of July weekend!

Phil

[GM_muscle]

wow is all i can say. i am about to start a 69 bird.

[Code Red]

real nice man

motor looks real similar to mine,

mine is a 400 with edlebrock heads, intake and dougs headers i tell you those dougs headers can be a real PITA at least on the GTOs

[Motown 454]

Phil That looks sweet . What brand is that hose . I want to use all black hose and fittings on mine. I like the black on the air filter and valve covers. Sweet. Have you tried to start it yet??

[69TAPoser]

Phil That looks sweet . What brand is that hose . I want to use all black hose and fittings on mine. I like the black on the air filter and valve covers. Sweet. Have you tried to start it yet??

Thanks guys. Hey Wayne. The fittings and hose are all Jeg's brand. I fhaven't fired the engine in the car yet, still need to do the wiring.

Also, my steering shaft goes right thru 3 header tubes on my Doug's headers, so I am looking into custom headers. :hmm:

Any new news on FNQUIK?

Phil

[Motown 454]

Nothing from Mike but I bought a Fast XFI for the car.I'm going to post a better picture in my build thread. I got it reasonable.
These car are a never ending story....

[69TAPoser]

These car are a never ending story....

...Ain't that the truth! :rolleyes:

Phil

[pchdrive]

Wow how time flies! This weekend marks the 3-year anniversary of when I picked up the '69 project.

I am on vacation alone this week (kids are at summer camp and the wife is working), so I hope to make lots of progress on the Bird! My body shop is getting the fenders in primer and the inners/core support in final paint. I hope to have the front end on by the end of this week! :fingersx:

Here's some progress I made in the engine bay:

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I hope everyone had a great 4th of July weekend!

Phil

Hey Phil,
Wow! Time has really flown. I look forward to seeing some progress pics for this week......Hope it has been productive.
Rich

[69TAPoser]

Hey Rich! Nice to hear from you. How is the truck project coming along?

As expected, I am waiting on the bodyshop for my radiator support and additional parts so that I can mount the radiator. They are also painting the door hinges so that I can get the doors mounted. I hope to have them today or tomorrow. Most likely tomorrow.

I have been working out a few small things including re-adjusting my front seats (they were too close to the dash) and fixing a power steering fluid leak.

Also, I have started to address some of the issues that have popped up along the way...

I installed my steering shaft for the rack and it hits not 1 header tube, but 3 (just my luck). So I am now having custom stainless headers made. Anyone ever use: http://www.stainlessheaders.com/customheaders ? I spoke with them yesterday and they are sending me their mock-up kit.

Here is what the mock-up kit looks like:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/Ford20Custom20HeadersJPG-1.jpg

And here is the finished product of the above mock-up:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/Custom20Headers20FordJPG-1.jpg

Another issue that I have is due to the big bearing Ford 9" rear end I am using, my Moser axles have a large 3" diameter flange and the hub bore on my wheels is about 1/8" smaller in diameter. This results in the wheel not sitting all the way down on the Wilwood rotor hats. :squint: I spoke with Bonspeed and their wheels don't use the axle flange for centering the wheel, so they recommend having the axle flange machined down to clear the wheels. I just need to see if the machine shop that I use can turn the axles. Just a heads up, let your wheel company know if you are using a Ford 9" rearend. This somehow got missed in the ordering process.

If a have any good pics to post of progress, I will post them later this week.

Phil

[SamHatco]

Man, Phil those headers are a work of art. They will really pop with the engine. Great progress. It seems like just when you have everything worked out on a project plan something throws you a curve ball. Keep it up. :twothumbs I bet you can't wait to see some doors and fenders on the car.

Sam

[68400BIRD]

Great progress. I hope I do not run into to many things that need to be redone. I plan on installing my complete suspension and drive train to mock everything up and then take it all back out. At that point I will have all of the brackets,lines, and rear end figured out. I hope. LOL Keep up the great work.

[pchdrive]

Hey Rich! Nice to hear from you. How is the truck project coming along?

As expected, I am waiting on the bodyshop for my radiator support and additional parts so that I can mount the radiator. They are also painting the door hinges so that I can get the doors mounted. I hope to have them today or tomorrow. Most likely tomorrow.

I have been working out a few small things including re-adjusting my front seats (they were too close to the dash) and fixing a power steering fluid leak.

Also, I have started to address some of the issues that have popped up along the way...

I installed my steering shaft for the rack and it hits not 1 header tube, but 3 (just my luck). So I am now having custom stainless headers made. Anyone ever use: http://www.stainlessheaders.com/customheaders ? I spoke with them yesterday and they are sending me their mock-up kit.

Here is what the mock-up kit looks like:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/Ford20Custom20HeadersJPG-1.jpg

And here is the finished product of the above mock-up:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/Custom20Headers20FordJPG-1.jpg

Another issue that I have is due to the big bearing Ford 9" rear end I am using, my Moser axles have a large 3" diameter flange and the hub bore on my wheels is about 1/8" smaller in diameter. This results in the wheel not sitting all the way down on the Wilwood rotor hats. :squint: I spoke with Bonspeed and their wheels don't use the axle flange for centering the wheel, so they recommend having the axle flange machined down to clear the wheels. I just need to see if the machine shop that I use can turn the axles. Just a heads up, let your wheel company know if you are using a Ford 9" rearend. This somehow got missed in the ordering process.

If a have any good pics to post of progress, I will post them later this week.

Phil

Hey Phil,
The truck (aka tow vehicle/parts hauler) is coming along nice. Here is pic of it.
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Here is link to build thread. It is going home soon (in primer) for install of LQ9 6.0/4L80E.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=252364&page=12

Those headers look awesome man.
Please be careful when you start up/break in that nice engine. Be sure to use EOS. The 462 in our bird is running like crap now backfiring through the carb. Timing seems OK so I have this pit in my stomach that the flat tappet cam has gone flat. Need to get it to my engine guy to confirm but have been dreading it. If that's the case it will need a complete tear down after only 5,500 miles.
Oh well......
Take care,
Rich

[Motown 454]

Headers look sweet Phil. They'll really shine in your engine bay.

[69TAPoser]

Truck is looking awesome Rich! You are going to have 2 projects done before I finish 1! :cheers: I did pick up my next project though, a rolling '73 Camaro shell from CA that is solid (http://www.73camarobuild.com). I will start on this when the 'Bird goes to paint jail this winter.

Sorry to hear about the flat tappet cam issue. Guys with those cams around here are running the Valvoline VR1 racing oil with higher zinc or they are running an oil additive. What were you using for oil? My '69 has a hydraulic roller cam, so I hope to avoid the lobe wear issue.

Thanks Wayne, I will post some pics of the mock-up process and the results. :)

Phil

[69TAPoser]

No new pics worth posting yet, but I have been working hard on the Bird.

The radiator support is in and I have created brackets to mount the AFCO alum radiator. The rad is at my welder's shop where he is tigging the brackets on.

Also, the rear axles are at the machine shop where they are taking care of the wheel interference issue. Should have them back tomorrow.

The fenders are repaired and the inner fenders have been blasted and are almost ready for paint. My hinges are being prepped for paint....the doors are the next to get installed.

I have been doing lots of research on driveline angles as I am getting ready to locate the pinion angle of the rear axle (I am using the DSE adjustable pads). I am measuring and getting ready to order my drive shaft from CC5Speed. They have recommended a 3.5" aluminum drive shaft based on my HP.

Talk about project creep...the picture below just blew me away. I may change my stripe color. What do you guys think....

Flat black stripes:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/camaro07-1.jpg

Or stick with the silver stripes...?
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Which way would you go?

[hdesign]

Phil, I still like the silver stripes better.

[pchdrive]

Phil,
Listen to Ben and stick with silver.
Rich

[SamHatco]

Silver, no question about it.

Sam

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

flat black..

[gto406]

I am with Mr. V, flat black! Sweet looking 'Bird Phil, btw!

[cdoggy81]

Try to tie the stripe in with the shade / color of the inside of your rims. Silver rims = silver stripe. Black rims = black stripe...
Good stuff so far!!! :-)

[Motown 454]

I thought you were going to say that was your newest project. lol I like the black stripes. Either way you can't go wrong..

[69TAPoser]

I thought you were going to say that was your newest project. lol I like the black stripes. Either way you can't go wrong..

LOL Wayne. I wish I had the coin to get a new Camaro right now. It's all going into the Bird! :doh:

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Okay, thanks guys! I will stick to the plan (silver stripes).

Today I set my pinion angle and measured for the drive shaft. I will be ordering the shaft on Monday.

I also pulled the rear out as I was using the adjustable DSE leaf pads and they need to be welded now that the angle has been set. While it's out, the welder will also add 2 brake line mounts then it will go to the powdercoater.

I got the radiator back from the Welder and will get that mounted tomorrow and post some pics.

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Radiator support and radiator installed...

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...still need to cleanup the bracket welds a bit.

Inner fenders aren't installed as they are being painted.

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Rearend housing blasted, powdercoated, and installed:

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Driveshaft from Inland Empire (alum. 3.5" with a 1350 pinion universal):
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[SamHatco]

Progress!! Don't you just love it? Looking good Phil.

Sam

[tones2SS]

Looks good man. Keep up the great work.

[Lenie]

Phil, looks good. I've been beating myself up for about 2 years now debating whether or not to add flat black on my hood. Wife keeps convincing me not to but man, it just looks nasty.
Lenie

[Motown 454]

Looks good Phil..

[69TAPoser]

Weekend progress, the car is rolling again with it's final stance:

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Phil

[Motown 454]

You've got to be so excited to be this close to driving it.

[icebird84]

looking good

[tones2SS]

Getting there buddy.
Keep up the progress.

[69TAPoser]

Got the car back on the KwikLift and installed the 3.5" alum diveshaft from Inland Empire. Next I will be working on the mock-up for the custom stainless headers:

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Phil

[Motown 454]

Thats a nice looking piece of equipment. They make some nice stuff.

[gto406]

Looking good Phil!

[Motown 454]

Phil any news on the header kit?

[69TAPoser]

Thanks for asking Wayne... :)

I received the mock-up kit from Stainless Headers Manufacturing (http://www.stainlessheaders.com/customheaders) and was able to mock up the driver's side yesterday.

Here is what they do:

from this:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/08/Ford20Custom20Headers_2JPG-1.jpg

To this:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/08/Ford2030220Headers1JPG-1.jpg


Here is my mock-up:
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...They'll be made of of stainless with merged collectors and a v-band clamp connection.

Phil

[steve g]

Great build. Keep the photos coming.

[69TAPoser]

Thanks Steve, I do have some updates. I finished the cooling system with the addition of a recirculating catch can, re-mounted the rear fuel filter with a nicer mount, re-routed some of the rear fuel line, and started on the wiring.

I will post some pics this week. I hope to have the wiring completed within the next 2 weeks.

Phil

[Motown 454]

Thats good Phil your build is one of them that keep me sane. lol

[69TAPoser]

Thats good Phil your build is one of them that keep me sane. lol

I am glad it is keeping someone sane Wayne...this one is driving me freakin crazy! :)

I hope my '73 goes a little quicker.

Phil

[Motown 454]

That 73 looks like a pretty clean car to start with.

[69TAPoser]

Re-routed the rear fuel line and found a better mount for the rear filter:

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Added a recirculating coolant can:
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Started final wiring:
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Phil

[Motown 454]

Oh my word I'm not looking forward to wiring mine when it comes back. Did you use an AAW kit ?

[69TAPoser]

LOL, yes it is an AAW kit. It's not too bad, but it does take some studying.

Phil

[Motown 454]

I have the update kit for mine. Not looking forward to it . But its got to be done . someday

[69TAPoser]

I have the update kit for mine. Not looking forward to it . But its got to be done . someday

I bought my car as a stripped project,so I don't have the luxury of having taken it apart, which makes it a bit harder. I do have a colored wiring diagram which I would highly recommend getting to use as a guide.

The AAW is mostly "plug and play" but the connections aren't marked so you have to know where to "plug." :)

Phil

[69TAPoser]

Got a call from Stainless Headers this morning to verify my request/mock-up. They go into production today! They take 3 days to build.

Should be shipped to me by Monday so I should have them by next weekend (or thereabouts).

Phil

[454bug]

Got a call from Stainless Headers this morning to verify my request/mock-up. They go into production today! They take 3 days to build.

Should be shipped to me by Monday so I should have them by next weekend (or thereabouts).

Phil

GREAT!! :attn:

I look forward to seeing how they came out...

Did you take any pictures of your "mock-up" assembly so you could take some "actual" pictures in the same fashion to compare them???

I'd be interested to see how they match up... :)

[Motown 454]

Sweet That wasn't long at all. Thats a pretty fast turnaround.

[tones2SS]

STAINLESS WORKS = good choice!!

[zman1969]

LOL, yes it is an AAW kit. It's not too bad, but it does take some studying.

Phil
Phil, did you get the one for the 69 Camaro and adapt over? thats what I bought. keep us updated
Rich

[69TAPoser]

GREAT!! :attn:

I look forward to seeing how they came out...

Did you take any pictures of your "mock-up" assembly so you could take some "actual" pictures in the same fashion to compare them???

I'd be interested to see how they match up... :)

Yes, I have about 20 mock-up picks, some are here: http://www.69firebirdbuild.com/stainlessheaders.html

Zman- I actually worked thru Frank at Prodigy with AAW to get a Firebird specific wire kit. At the time, I don't think it was on their site, but they were able to make it!

Phil

[Motown 454]

Hi Phil did the headers show up yet? Ifso we need pictures.

[69TAPoser]

Hi Phil did the headers show up yet? Ifso we need pictures.

No headers yet, thanks for asking though.

I have been watching for the UPS guy...it should be any day. :fingersx:

Phil

[Motown 454]

Kinda like waiting for Santa.

[454bug]

Hey Phil,

I'm checking in to see if your Stainless Headers came in and how they turned out??

Hopefully everything came out fine... :)

We look forward to hearing from you!

[pchdrive]

No headers yet, thanks for asking though.

I have been watching for the UPS guy...it should be any day. :fingersx:

Phil

Been 4 months Phil! Sure you are busy with the family and work but how about an update?

[ProTour69Bird]

Holy Moly...cheff Boy-R-D-...cheesy beef ravioli. this is an extreme build. your bird is amazing. want more updates!
makes me want to bang away on mine. what you doing for ur hood? fiberglass... sleeper/400/ta/cowl?

[CliffS]

Hey Phil, lost track? Still on the project?

[Motown 454]

I think Phil sold the bird and has a second gen Camaro he's doing.

[CliffS]

Thanks Wayne, lost track, been away for a while.
Buyer has an awesome car.