my '72 Mustang project, 4.6 turbo'd

[modularboy]

here's my project, it's a 1972 Mustang Grandé, it has a 351C Boss engine with 4-speed toploader, but in the future that engine is going out again to make room for a 4.6 twin turbo engine...

suspension up front, boxed lower arms, all new p.u. bushings, still on the to do list is or a set of tubular upperarms or i'm gonna box them myself like i did with the lower ones
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swaybar is a 1" type with p.u endlinks bushings.


rear is more interesting, the rearaxle will be 4-linked in a triangulated setup. so no more leafsprings.. shocks/springs is a set from comp. eng.
4-links
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/10/DSC01691-1.jpg
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my wheels..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/09/DSC01687-1.jpg
255-45-17 front/285-40-17 rear

just put the new fuel line in, and little while ago i've measured everything for the four-links setup, made drawings of all the brackets i will need, and gave them to a friend of mine who will lasercut them for me...

frame is already tied together
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/10/DSC01099-1.jpg

new dashlayout..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/10/DSC01243-1.jpg

autometer gauges, except those in the airvent, those i bought at a show in Germany, they will light-up once ignition will be on.. otherwise they will be dark...

more to come soon...

[formula98]

Looks like a great start and a fun project. Keep the posts coming.

[Restomod]

Damn nice work!! What 4.6 are you going with??

[louie@g-machine]

did you run the rear suspension through any sort of geometry package? getting a useable 4 link setup in the early mustangs is near impossible, i have ran the numbers, and basically gave up the idea. Very interested to see what you come up with.

[500hp club]

Keep up the good work. You get out of it what you put in it. verry nice ride :cheers:

[modularboy]

Damn nice work!! What 4.6 are you going with??

"just" a 4.6 SOHC... but i've seen those living happily with 600hp...in a streetcar...:drive:


did you run the rear suspension through any sort of geometry package? getting a useable 4 link setup in the early mustangs is near impossible, i have ran the numbers, and basically gave up the idea. Very interested to see what you come up with.

i didn't ran any numbers or used some sort of calculator, just read a lot, looked at stock suspensions a lot ,from different manufacturers, and they all seem to "do" a different approach of the rearsuspension build-up, angles,length of bars and such,.. so im sticking to the room i've got underneath, but i think i will have to cut the floor up for some clearance, just minor.. and just go with the best set-up possible, the rods are adjustable, so there's some room there.

[6'9"Witha69]

Nice progress so far. I like your rim choice. What color will it be?

[DusterRT]

Just curious; with your links, why didn't you put a threaded end on both ends (assuming you built them yourself)? Constructed like that, you'll have to unbolt one end to make any adjustments rather than simply popping the jam nuts loose and turning the tube..

Also, where did you get those ends, and what size are they? I was looking for something similar for a project I was working on, but couldn't find anything other than monsterous pieces for off-road toys (ie, 3/4").

[Turbo Rob]

Looks good. I look forward to seeing your Mustang at a Saturday Night Cruise in Den Haag one of these days.

Rob

[705.0Merc]

Looks good, I'd love to do a four link rear.

[kmcanally]

did you run the rear suspension through any sort of geometry package? getting a useable 4 link setup in the early mustangs is near impossible, i have ran the numbers, and basically gave up the idea. Very interested to see what you come up with.

What type of rear suspension are you putting in your project? The Air-Ride rear setup uses a triangulated 4-link that apparently works really well. It would be relatively easy to duplicate this setup but with some coil-over shocks in place of the air bags. Another mod I would make to this design is to move the lower bars from the original front leaf spring mount to the inside of the frame rail for greater tire clearance.

[modularboy]

Just curious; with your links, why didn't you put a threaded end on both ends (assuming you built them yourself)? Constructed like that, you'll have to unbolt one end to make any adjustments rather than simply popping the jam nuts loose and turning the tube..

Also, where did you get those ends, and what size are they? I was looking for something similar for a project I was working on, but couldn't find anything other than monsterous pieces for off-road toys (ie, 3/4").

i bought these bars at a shop in England, (www.wisbech-engineering.co.uk), they offer them "double-adjustable", but this will be my streetcar, so i will have to adjust them only once, so therefor

i chose single-adjustable

size of the threads are 3/4, ..

@kmcanally, that's where i got the idea from, from the airbar from "airride", i'm just gonna copy it onto my car..

shocks/springs will be a set of coil-over from compition engineering..,
so maybe in the future ,airbags are easily installed..

@Turbo Rob,..

it may take a while, but it will finished 1 day..:razz:

[DusterRT]

Ahh, I see.

Oh and the link above is incorrect; it's (www.wisbech-engineering.co.uk)

Have any full car shots? Sounds like a cool project!

[modularboy]

Ahh, I see.

Oh and the link above is incorrect; it's (www.wisbech-engineering.co.uk (http://www.wisbech-engineering.co.uk))

Have any full car shots? Sounds like a cool project!

sorry for the bad link, it ok now...

i haven't got any full car shots but some part-car shots.

enginebay..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/11/DSC01426-1.jpg
hood from usbody..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/09/DSC01041-1.jpg
enginebay again
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13623&stc=1&d=1162417574

Full car..
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13625&stc=1&d=1162417574

greetz Ben

[kmcanally]

that's where i got the idea from, from the airbar from "airride", i'm just gonna copy it onto my car..

Cool...I am glad to see someone doing this. I will be real interested to see how it comes out.

[Turbo Rob]

@Turbo Rob,..

it may take a while, but it will finished 1 day..:razz:

Modularboy,

It will be about 2.5 years before I can even start looking for another job in Nederland, so you should be finished before "ik terug". If there is ever such a thing as "finished" with a car!

[modularboy]

it's been a while, but the last week i had a short vacation so there was time to work on the car..

upper mouniting points
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/01/DSC01790-1.jpg
thats where they will go in
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mounting points on the axle
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mounted!!
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the floor was kinda in the way for the coil-overs..
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and i have some luck, the original tank can go in again..
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next on the task list is, mount the tank and make a sump in the tank for the fuelpump and a cover for accessing the pump...

greetz Ben

[modularboy]

back to work!!
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[modularboy]

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[Martin71RS]

Very nice Ben!! :twothumbs if you continue in this pace you'll be finished before I am :scared:

Martin

[modularboy]

don't worry Martin, its still a long way to go... :D

[modularboy]

well, it has been a while, sorry for that. almost a year

a lot has been done, the car has seen the road , the 351C runs great (more on that later on..), and of course lots of modifications have been done.. here it is the first time on the road
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/DSC01966-1.jpg

the first thing that came to mind was that the rear springs were way to harsh, i had 200lbs springs in there, swapped them out for 150lbs, the car sit a little lower now, shocks were swapped for QA1 pieces

also 1 thing got my attention was the fuelconsumption,...

at almost 10miles to the gallon, thats not funny anymore, a friend of mine said it was smoking a "little", well sitting in the car when idling wasn't funny to, i couldn't see the trafficlights because my eyes were burning..

i tried to get the mixture right.., but to cut a long story short.. here's my $500 Barry Crap carb.. it was a brandnew piece, it ran 130 miles
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/DSC01971-1.jpg

here's what i did with it..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/DSC01976-1.jpg
nice customer service as well over there at Barry Grant (500 bucks down the drain that is!!).. i never seen a better example of bad workmanship. holes drilled different sizes, shavings inside the carb, casting flaws everywere, its a genuine piece of.... well you know what i mean..

so i now have a QFT-carb , now that's a piece of work..
it instandly gave me around 20mpg from the start, which is decent i think..

[modularboy]

so that was my BG-adventure,.. , time to move on.

time to take on the front suspension..
the lower arms are already modified. now i did the uppers
i did the rollerspringperch conversion
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/P1010342-1.jpg
here's both of them
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/P1010343-1.jpg

standard upper arm
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made some template's
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and some mods on the inside
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[modularboy]

i painted everything, put new 1"lowering coils in it (550lbs)
and put it back together.

new brakes! im going for a Mustang Cobra 2004 conversion. front and rear..
the old drums
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/P1010398-1.jpg
rear brakes
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/P1010403-1.jpg
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and the front, this is original a disk car, so there are no conversionbrackets available as far as i know, . i started with '65 hubs, these put the wheels 1/4" more to the inside, but with the disc on, and i have to use a small spacer for the calipers, it will be back to the original track width
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/P1010424-1.jpg

old 11" disk and new 13"
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made some templates
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then made the mout of wood for test fitting, and works out great, now i have to put every size on paper and have them lasercutted.. like i did with the rears.

more on the engine!
this engine is staying!! i like it a lot.. lots of power, and theres to much time put in to it, taking it back out is a waist i think..

so i upgraded a little, it now has a new crane cam , the F-238, and because of that, hydraboost!
with the previous cam i had trouble with braking (lack of vacuum..) so this thing would only made things worse.
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also some new valvecovers. had to made a modification, otherwise it wouldn't fit
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soon some more.

[Restomod]

You are doing some great work,keep it up!!

[modularboy]

next thing was try to fit the shocktowerbrace's. well, they don't anymore , because of the angle of the hydraboost , that has come up a bit to clear the most of the valvecovers, the mastercilinder is now in the way, so more drawing,cutting has been done.

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the missing piece will be a piece of round tubing, so it will be a 1 piece design

next week i'm bringing al the stuff that has to be lasercut to my buddy , so he can cut it and then i can paint everything and start mounting the frontbrakes and the new shocktowerbraces.

and some picture's of the car.. the frontend needs to be down a little, but time will do that i guess, (i hope!! otherwise, the coils will be cut.)

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[Martin71RS]

:poke: Hey, I've seen that place before ...


Looking good there Ben! keep up the good work.

[CliffS]

You made some nice progress Ben, looking good!

[jackfrost]

I bet you're the only one around your town w/ a badass car like that. :twothumbs:

this car looks a LOT like my Javelin:
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/vbpicgallery.php?do=big&p=3034

[modularboy]

thanks guys, i still have a lot to do!!

[modularboy]

here it goes, another update..

i've finally got the brackets in for the diskbrake conversion and for the strutbrace..
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the brackets painted and mounted
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the car on all fours with disks allaround
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and heres the strutbrace, i made it in 1 piece now..
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time to move to the inside of the car..

i totally stripped the interior out so i could put the sound-deadening mats in..
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made some doorpaneels..
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[modularboy]

made a centerconsole..
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and a new console for the radio,heating panel and the cross-over filter for the subwoofer.
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and the rearinstall...
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soon some more..

[Martin71RS]

Wow Ben...youve made some great progress!

I guess I can see it live the next SNC?

Martin

[modularboy]

Wow Ben...youve made some great progress!

I guess I can see it live the next SNC?

Martin

that is the plan Martin !!

:seizure::drive:

[Benoit23]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/P1010459-1.jpg

What size gauges did it take to fill the pods?
Your car is looking great, very inspiring.

Thanks,
Chris

[modularboy]

thanks Chris,

these gauges are 5" in-dash version from Autometer,

i had to do some trimming on the original molding, but it was mostly a simple bolt-in..

greetings

Ben

[nickm347]

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Your car looks great. What kind of grille and headlights did you use? I would like to do something like that on my 73. THanks
-Nick

[MZ 500]

Wow nice work on all you have done so far I was looking at your roller perches and a-arms it's funny just last week I got those parts out for my car to look at doing the same things you did.

What bearings did you get for yours and what tubing size is that? I was also thinking about converting the a-arms over to roller bearings as well and adding plates as you did. Are there any hints you have before start on mine? The 70 71 Torino uses some of the same parts up front so this is grate info for me I will also be doing a shock tower brace as well I had to weld up a few cracks on mine so I want to prevent that in the future.

Check out my link below to see where I am at with my car

Later Matt Z.

[modularboy]

sorry for the late respons, kinda forgot about this again,.. been a little busy...:bsjerk: :D

@Nick

the grill is a custom made by me.. still not finished , it needs some more work around the headlights.

the headlights are for a Golf , early one type I/II, they are the same diameter.., they are the clear ones.. gives much more light then the original ones..

@Matt,

contact this site http://home.bresnan.net/~dazed/test

i got the master roller perch kit..

top quality stuff with everything you need supplied, he also offers them assembled i believe..

and i will look at your car!

this winter is again a busy 1, only this time, more time planned for the Mustang.

the roof is gonna be replaced, badly needs new sheetmetal, a donor is waiting for it.

and the front will be lowered a bit more, it has been a year now with the new springs, and i think i doesnt settle any more than it has now, so i will start with a half coil, and see what that gives me..

and i hope some paint in the spring!

[aussiebj]

looks great and its good to see another stang being built...

[Swiftandswank]

did you get the hydroboost in already? And if so what did it take to put in?

[lh_kustoms]

cool stang keep up the nice work

[modularboy]

did you get the hydroboost in already? And if so what did it take to put in?


yes i have, the rod that goes on the brake pedal had to be shortened. and the plate on which the unit is mounted, uses a different bolt-pattern than the mustang-pattern, i took the plate off and removed the studs

redrilled the plate to match the mustang pattern,welded the old holes shut and bolted it on, with some shims on the bottom bolts, to raise the unit up so it would clear the valve covers..

it really works well with the 1-1/16 master cilinder from a 96 Mustang i put on there and with the Cobra brakes...

@LH-Kustoms

thanks!

[mikelspower]

I love what you have done to your mustang. It looks great. The custom stuff is awesome.

[delark]

I'm sorry for kicking an ancient thread up. But is there any news on this mustang? I'm very interested, as I have the same stang, and I'm planning things like you did. I'd really love to see what's become of this!

Regards,

Delark

[modularboy]

well actually its has become a bit further, currently i'm on vacation, when i come back, i will place an update, i hate to say this, but i kinda forgot about this site...

sorry..

cheers

Ben