Pic of the new Z06 [Archive]

TonyL

11-09-2004, 08:57 PM

Here's a look at the next Z06 (from GMI)
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6-piston front and 4-piston rear calipers
• Cross-drilled rotors
• Aluminum engine block with 104.8-mm bores and pressed-in liners
• Forged steel crankshaft with 101.6-mm stroke
• 6-bolt, forged steel main bearing caps
• Titanium connecting rods
• Cast aluminum flat-top pistons
• Racing-derived CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads with 70-cc chambers
• 56mm titanium intake valves
• 41mm sodium-filled exhaust valves
• 11.0:1 compression ratio
• Composite manifold with 90 mm single-bore throttle body
• Camshaft with 15-mm (.591-inch) lift
• Dry-sump oiling system
• 7000-rpm redline
WEIGHT: 3130lbs/1420kg

500hp/475lb-ft torque

Got this from digitalcorvettes.com (and i borrowed it from GMI) pic hosted at imageshack so it wont drain their bandwidth.

yody

11-10-2004, 12:08 AM

WOW......................how much$$$?

will69camaro

11-10-2004, 12:25 AM

Is that just a concept or is that really going to happen? That thing looks increadibly bad ass!

William

TonyL

11-10-2004, 02:47 AM

the rumors are that this is real. and it should be under 60 grand.

Novacane

11-10-2004, 05:05 AM

That picture is 95% the real deal. I have been watching the car evolve for the last 1.5 years and that is about as real as it has gotten. I have one one order, at least ear marked at my dealer, and have a trip planned to Detroit in January to see it unvailed. That will be at the NAIAS show!

Current price structuring has not been finalized but rumors place it in the high 50's to low 60's.

The big rumor right now is the possibility that the car has an aluminum frame. Other confirmations are, Brembo brakes, 335/19 rear tires, 7/0L (nice block for pro-touring build ups! :seizure: ) carbon fiber hood...

I hope that don't strip out the cool electronics like the navagation!

CAMAROBOY69

11-10-2004, 06:24 AM

The front end looks almost exacly like a Ferrari 550.
Ferrari 550
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I actually think the Corvette looks better in the front.
Corvette ZO6
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ProdigyCustoms

11-10-2004, 08:13 AM

Hopefully they will make it in a convertible, then I am in!

Foudie

11-10-2004, 09:30 AM

I just went to the local dealer with my buddy to order his new '05 vette and the sales manager assured me that it is not a concept. It is the real deal that will be in production next year. 500 hp? Sounds like we are stepping back in time about 30+ years.

Brad

ProdigyCustoms

11-10-2004, 09:40 AM

500 hp? Sounds like we are stepping back in time about 30+ years.

Brad

Actually we are far surpassing 30 years ago as 500RWHP today is equal to north of 600FWHP in the old days. And nothing back then had 600HP, 450HP on a 1970 LS6 being the highest.
The muscle cars of old were awesome, but the new stuff is simply amazing.

Blown353

11-10-2004, 10:21 AM

3130 lbs? While definately not a heavyweight, that falls a wee bit short of their sub-3000lb target for the car.

Regarding the frame, I thought it had been confirmed that the Z06 will get hydroformed aluminum frame rails in lieu of the base C6's hydroformed steel frame rails.

I'm also questioning the Ti connecting rods (based on cost alone, the increase in base price over the standard C6 doesn't seem to be enough to cover those along with all the other changes), and the dry sump simply because it is such a departure from everything else GM offers or has offered in the past. Would be nice though, I'll keep my fingers crossed for them.

Also, cast pistons? Seems kind of odd and a total departure from the rest of the components on that spec sheet. Guess GM doesn't want to deal with a bunch of phone calls over cold start piston slap they'd likely get with forged pieces.

Personally, the best part of the new C6 is that it's causing the prices on used-C5's, especially the Z06's, to drop. I'm planning on picking up a nice low mileage silver or electron blue 2003-2004 Z06 early next year as a new daily driver. :seizure:

trapin

11-10-2004, 10:26 AM

It'll be a Corvette to remember...that's for sure.

Lowend

11-10-2004, 10:28 AM

Hmm - that engine is 4.094" bore x4" stroke
That is a hell of a lot of piston speed for a 7000RPM redline

Foudie

11-10-2004, 10:34 AM

Actually we are far surpassing 30 years ago as 500RWHP today is equal to north of 600FWHP in the old days. And nothing back then had 600HP, 450HP on a 1970 LS6 being the highest.
The muscle cars of old were awesome, but the new stuff is simply amazing.

Is the new Z06 rated at 500 Rear Wheel? I was under the impression that the 500 was rated at the flywheel? Someone clear this up for me.

Brad

TonyL

11-10-2004, 01:00 PM

Remember the facts and figures above are still speculation. Noone but a select few GM people know the true output of that car, so debating how much power it makes one way or the other is still moot. Ive heard rumors as high as 600hp.

one thing that has been confermed is that Z06 engines will be hand assembled.

will69camaro

11-10-2004, 01:09 PM

Nice to see that they are all hand assymbled now. I wonder if they'll have a little plate that has the signatures of the people that built it like SVT was doing with their engines. I cant wait to see how much hp they actually produce and what kinda times they'll put up.

William

TonyL

11-10-2004, 01:42 PM

(the following is a article written by NSAP over at GMI, and where i heard about the handmaking of the engines)

2006 Corvette ZO6 Engine to be Hand-Built
By: NSAP
www.gminsidenews.com

General Motors is adding to it's line of the "World's Best Powertrains" with the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 powertrain. The LS7 engine will be hand-built to perfection.

Recently GM opened its all new Performance Build Center. The Center is dedicated to building high-performance engines for low-volume, premium vehicles. The first engine to be built at the new facility is the new LS7 OHV Small-Block V8 that will be used exclusively for the new 2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6.

The new Build-Center is located in Wixom, Mich. and is 100,000 sq. ft in size. Specially trained technicians build each engine from start to finish. The facility will be capable of producing up to 15,000 powertrains annually with highly flexible 'mix' that can respond quick to changing market conditions. Every engine that the plant builds will be hot-tested.

boodlefoof

11-10-2004, 03:17 PM

I was hoping it would be a forced induction engine myself. :D

BADVELLE

11-10-2004, 03:27 PM

Is the new Z06 rated at 500 Rear Wheel? I was under the impression that the 500 was rated at the flywheel? Someone clear this up for me.

Brad

The SAE standard is at the flywheel, which is true I believe of all American Made automobiles. I am not aware of any HP rating from an OEM being advertised at the rear wheel. There was an old, I believe, Popular Hot Rodding that they did a dyno test on some production hot rods like the Corvette, etc. The rear wheel numbers were far from the advertise HP (flywheel). Which you would figure this I guess after the power is transmitted through the driveline to the rear axle. Just my 1/2 cent worth.

ProdigyCustoms

11-10-2004, 03:39 PM

I am fairly certain the factories started rating HP at the rear wheels in 1971, hence the big drop in HP in 1971. Mostly for insurance reason as I remember.

Josh69

11-10-2004, 03:44 PM

Actually we are far surpassing 30 years ago as 500RWHP today is equal to north of 600FWHP in the old days. And nothing back then had 600HP, 450HP on a 1970 LS6 being the highest.
The muscle cars of old were awesome, but the new stuff is simply amazing.

Current cars are rated with hp at the flywheel, which includes accessories like alternator, water pump, etc., along with a complete exhaust system. Known as SAE Net.

Back in the old days, they measured without any accessories and in some cases even without water pumps, which gave the higher ratings. Known as SAE Gross.

The difference can be as much as 20% between the two. The OEM's phased in this method in about 1972.

However, both are done at the flywheel for the OEM's...no one uses RWHP other than aftermarket and guys that go run their car on a dynojet or mustang, etc. RWHP is at best a calculated estimation which is affected by unknowns like frictional losses, parasitic losses, etc.

Novacane

11-10-2004, 03:55 PM

The 500 hp is at the flywheel. However I'm sure it is underated. The current C6 has been dynoing around 420 at the flywheel. This has been true for 4 that I have seen on the dyno doing testing.

The bore to make 427 cu inches is 4.125" with a 4.00" stroke. Making that power N/A is a walk in the park. My 420 motor in my C5 is well stacked but not crazy and it makes 625 flywheel hp. 427 ci x 1.2 hp/cu in is 512. These motors are making that 1.2 all day! Once you start tweaking them we are seeing 1.5!

A lot of this is due to the cylinder head design. Fast Burn combustion chambers. The GEN3/4 motors also make torque like no other. That 500 is peak. Wait until we see the power under the curve!!!

Steve1968LS2

11-10-2004, 04:14 PM

Well this was posted on another board.. and they shut downt the thread...

Dear Sir,

Please remove the pictures that are part of the following:

LS2 Forums > General Forums > Bar-n-Grill > Newest C6 Z06 Spy Pic and Info

These pictures are the property of General Motors. Please contact me so we can discuss this issue in further detail.

Thanks,
Robert A. Mitchem
Securitas Computer Forensic Investigator
General Motors Corporate Security
Office 313.665.xxxx
Cell 313.304.xxxx

So maybe it is a REAL picture??? :)

Flyboy

11-10-2004, 05:01 PM

Another Z06 spy shot....

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TonyL

11-10-2004, 05:30 PM

no um... its "not" a "real" picture.... It "could" be real...... we will wait and see if GM sniffs it out here, Its supposed to be the real thing.

BADVELLE

11-10-2004, 05:39 PM

jonny51

11-10-2004, 07:03 PM

I don't think it is a mistake these pictures "leak" out.

jonny51

11-10-2004, 07:03 PM

oops douple post

ProdigyCustoms

11-10-2004, 07:31 PM

Current cars are rated with hp at the flywheel, which includes accessories like alternator, water pump, etc., along with a complete exhaust system. Known as SAE Net.

Back in the old days, they measured without any accessories and in some cases even without water pumps, which gave the higher ratings. Known as SAE Gross.

.

Ya know, I believe you are right. Guess I brain farted this one. For whatever reason I got it in my head it was rear wheel. Thanks for straightening me out. And don't you dare tell my wife I admitted I was wrong!

Steve1968LS2

11-10-2004, 08:49 PM

um....He wants to be contacted, but leaves out the last 4 digits of the number! As for the pic, we see "spy" photos all the time in car mags. I wonder if they have issue with those also??

Ummm.. the admin guy took out his numbers.. dont wanna be posting thiem around..

The IP traced to Detroit.. the company is real..

Maybe this was hacked from GM???

Flyboy

11-11-2004, 07:02 PM

A photochopped version from another board.... black, lowered, with a slightly larger front opening....

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Blown353

11-11-2004, 07:06 PM

A photochopped version from another board.... black, lowered, with a slightly larger front opening....

Can somebody 'chop a version that's been lifted and ridin' on 28" Spinnahz? :hammer:

Flyboy

11-11-2004, 07:45 PM

Can somebody 'chop a version that's been lifted and ridin' on 28" Spinnahz? :hammer:
:lol: Now that would be T-Y-T-E :rotfl:

TonyL

11-11-2004, 08:57 PM

some more news spreading ivolving the pic....
Dear Sir,

My name is Mike xxxxxxx and I'm the xxxxxxx of Broadcast Communications for General Motors.

I've noticed that you have one of GM's embargoed photographs of the 2005 Corvette on your website. Since this image is embargoed until January 10, 2005, I am asking that you remove the image from your site until the embargo is lifted. While I don't expect you to tell me who provided you with the image, I am wondering if you would tell me if you received the image before Noon on Tuesday, November 9.

If there is any confusion regarding usage of GM's embargoed images or if you would like to discuss the situation with me, I can be reached through
email, or by phone at 313-665-xxxx. Thank you for your help with this matter.

(from another board) but the cat's outta the bag, methinks...
and judging by asking when the pic was leaked they know who leaked it.

68RallySport

11-16-2004, 11:40 AM

Does anyone know what the tire sizes are gonna be? Not so much how tall the rims are but the amount of ruber on the road?

David

J-R0d

11-17-2004, 11:10 AM

Supposedly 325's on a 19" in the rear.

Most of the info in that blurb is accurate as far as I understand it. GM claim to the pic pretty much confirms it being the new Z06 (and now folks are in trouble for it).

The heads on it are going to step power output to the next level...