1001 HP Bugatti breaks the limits! 250mph?

[BMF Machine]

I am sure most of you have seen this Quad Turbo Beast!

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/06/veyron/index_01.htm?campaign_id=aol_autos_bugatti

This is a nice article on the VW on steriods! Good pictures, just fun to look at, I love the 1000 horse power gauge in the console! But at 1.3 million, I don't think I will ever be able to own one.

But where can we test drive one at? The salt flats would be nice? It says at 253 miles per hour it still gets 3 miles per gallon That is 84.33333 gallons an hour?. That is Cool!

Just Checking In,
:offtopic: :smoke: Kevin :smoke:


"Power emanates from a quad-turbocharged 64-valve W16 engine, born of two mated V8 blocks. A 7-speed manual transmission and 4-wheel-drive complete the package, which goes from zero to 62 in 2.5 seconds, and from zero to 188—approaching the top limit of many other supercar—in a terrifyingly short 16.7 seconds."

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

daaaaaaaamn... still ugly as sh87598ugioa

[WS6]

I think its freaking gorgeous. Wow what a car. I had no idea the engine is uncovered completely. Ten radiators? That car is cool.

[shmoov69]

Fugly! Wicked, but still FUGLY!!!:barf:


daaaaaaaamn... still ugly as sh87598ugioa

[DRCE]

For a million three I can think of a few cars I'd like to build. Hell I'm pretty sure I'd be eclipsing the 250mph barrier as well :)

[surlyjoe]

The scariest part is it costs them around 5 mil to make one. So yes they sell at a loss.

[Scott Parkhurst]

Would a new Z06 with twin turbos be a better option?

I think so...especially in the styling and pricing depts.

Performance in the 'real' world would be comparable, and even the 'unreal' world performance would be 'close enough' to me.

Make it a 'race case' LS motor topped with the new AFRs, and add a touch of spray on top of the twin turbos for added madness.

The Bugatti is cool, but it's too much "Bug" and too much dough for me. I love the engineering, but I'd rather be influenced by it than have to pay for it.

~SP~

[F70t/a]

God I love that car!!!!

[formula]

The engine aside, the level of engineering in that car is incredible. I love every inch of it, short of the stupid retro grille.

[Jim Nilsen]

Gale Banks is probably rolling on the floor and John Lingenfelter is rolling over in his grave since both of them have acheived the goal for the most part in non production cars. It sure raises the bar for what is to come.

I would still rather have a McLaren F1 for that king of money. After all,if you can afford to get into trouble with a car like that you might as well have room for 2 girlfriends instead of one:jump:

Jim Nilsen

[BMF Machine]

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to ruffle feathers. This is a production car, not a one of. I have never seen so much cool stuff packed into a production car. We have a lot of incredible builders, on this site alone. They all know how to go really fast, and look really cool doing it. So does Bugatti.

John Lingenfelter would have been very impressed with a quad turbo 16 cylynder, and Gale Banks is probably already on the waiting list, lolol. Gale has a fast UGLY Dakota, that smokes more than the space shuttle. This car is an engineering marvel, of style and modest power with incredible speed and did I mention style! I love the Launch mode switch!


McLaren F1 Specs:
top speed= 240.1 mph (I would be happy, with one chick in the car, at 253 leaving the F-1 in the dust,lol)
0 - 60 mph= 3.2 seconds (0-62 in 2.5 is much better! NOS might help the McLaren but I don't think it would help that much)
100 mph= 6.7 seconds (0-188 in 16.7 is cooler)
0 - 1/4 mile= 11.6 seconds
power= 627.1 bhp @ 7400 rpm (I would rather have 1001 Hp?)
hp per litre= 103.41 bhp per litre
bhp/weight= 550.09 bhp per tonne
torque =649.4 nm / 479.0 ft lbs @ 5600 rpm
V-12 (V16, Bigger is better, then add four Turbos and walla, we have a winner!)

www.IIMUCHFABRICATION.com (http://www.iimuchfabrication.com/)
Jp’s modest 427 equals the HP, and beats the torque specs on the McLaren motors. But Jp will tell you, he ain’t planning on going 250 miles an hour, not in a car anyway.


If given 1.3 million, I would invest 257,000 in a new Cessna 172 with Garmin 1100 avionics w/autopilot and xm radio. I would use the rest for gas money and take a long vacation. But the Bugatti is just a sweet looking, and killer built car, I had to post it up to make sure everyone has seen, that there are still automakers out there, trying to push the envelope of insanity.

Kevin:candle: :smoke: :wasntme:

[Dagger]

Looks like a Ford GT and an Edsel had a baby.

[Rich Team11 H/O]

That car is insane...yeah you can build a race car that will go just as fast, but does it have suede and leather interior, brushed and machined aluminum trim, stereo surround sound, air conditioning navigation and power everything? Can a race car run day and night to and from work in the rain, heat, cold pull into a regular gas station to fill up and not need to be rebuilt at the end of the week?? I think not. The bar has been raised. If I could afford it, I would buy one in a hearbeat.

[BuddyP]

I would still rather have a McLaren F1 for that king of money. After all,if you can afford to get into trouble with a car like that you might as well have room for 2 girlfriends instead of one:jump:
:lol:

[BMF Machine]

That car is insane...yeah you can build a race car that will go just as fast, but does it have suede and leather interior, brushed and machined aluminum trim, stereo surround sound, air conditioning navigation and power everything? Can a race car run day and night to and from work in the rain, heat, cold pull into a regular gas station to fill up and not need to be rebuilt at the end of the week?? I think not. The bar has been raised. If I could afford it, I would buy one in a hearbeat.



I could not have said it better, Sweet Car!
Kevin:candle:

[Rich Team11 H/O]

Would a new Z06 with twin turbos be a better option?

I think so...especially in the styling and pricing depts.

Performance in the 'real' world would be comparable, and even the 'unreal' world performance would be 'close enough' to me.

Make it a 'race case' LS motor topped with the new AFRs, and add a touch of spray on top of the twin turbos for added madness.

The Bugatti is cool, but it's too much "Bug" and too much dough for me. I love the engineering, but I'd rather be influenced by it than have to pay for it.

~SP~

New Z06 is an awesome car, with twin turbos I would imgine it would be even better, but the Bugatti is on another planet in every single way...they are simply not in the same league, its just that simple. The Vette not matter how much money you dump into it is a production sports car for the masses and engineered as such. The Bugatti is a car made to exceed everything we consider high performance....the damn thing can whip the a$$ of an F1 car out of the box while sipping your latte, and listening to Van Halen surrounded by the best materials money can buy! It doesnt get any better than that. (well, maybe if they threw in Giselle :) )

[Bandit]

Wow, a car that can take home 1st place for both fastest and ugliest in show!! :2nd:

Paul

[Ralph LoGrasso]

I would still rather have a McLaren F1 for that king of money. After all,if you can afford to get into trouble with a car like that you might as well have room for 2 girlfriends instead of one:jump:

I saw a documentary on the Bugatti and one of the things i found most interesting was this:

If a McLaren F1 is already traveling at 100mph, and the Bugatti launches from a stop from the point where the McLaren passes it, the Bugatti will reach 170mph BEFORE the McLaren (which has had a 100mph head start). That is INSANE. In case that was confusing, the Bugatti accelerates from 0-170, quicker than the McLaren accelerates from 100-170.

[D Rock]

I saw a documentary on the Bugatti and one of the things i found most interesting was this:

If a McLaren F1 is already traveling at 100mph, and the Bugatti launches from a stop from the point where the McLaren passes it, the Bugatti will reach 170mph BEFORE the McLaren (which has had a 100mph head start). That is INSANE. In case that was confusing, the Bugatti accelerates from 0-170, quicker than the McLaren accelerates from 100-170.

That would be a race I would love to see.

[BMF Machine]

That would be a race I would love to see.


That would not be much of a race at all. It would be a butt whipping! Proper Spanked! :spank2:

It would land the two chicks and the Mclaren, in the garage of the owner, of the Bugatti,if racing for pinks!

The Bugatti, in my opinion, is a beautiful car with great lines. We should all appreciate it!

PS. Ralph, Thanks for the 411 on the F-1 100-170 time, I could not find it. The car probably wieghs less than a crotch rocket, that helps the 0-100 time look impressive, but I knew with low torque and no where near overkill on the Horse power it had to be lacking from 100 up.

Kevin:smoke:

[CraigMorrison]

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What about the Koenigsegg CCX!?!?!

Sex on wheels, 806 hp sold in the USA and a steal at just over $500K :Alchy: Have a look. 1.3g Lateral & 9.9 @ 146mph in the quarter. Dealership now open in Caesar's Palace in Vegas. Definitely going to to a side trip at SEMA to do some drooling.


http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/i-travel-at-extreme-speed-the-koenigsegg-ccx-156966.php

[Ralph LoGrasso]

The CCX is awesome looking!

One thing I found interesting: it runs 225s up front. That must be a typo? Especially on a 9.5" wide wheel.

[Bandit]

OK now here's an extreme machine that some of us may actually be able to own someday.

http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/frames.htm

100mph in just 6.8 seconds. Overall time 0-100mph-0: 10.88 seconds. WOW
2 g's in the twisties. 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

This is a Formula car for the street, for under 6 figures. A pure driving machine.
I'd take it over a Z06.

Paul

[CraigMorrison]

Bandit- I saw a review of that car on Top Gear last year in England. WOW That is one cool little rig. I LIKE! We were talking about taking that sort of concept and wrapping it in a 27 Track T. How cool would that be?

[Bandit]

Not sure I would call the Atom a car, more like a street-legal blown 4-cylinder shifter cart!!

Paul

[Jim Nilsen]

It took a bit of wondering why Volkswagon would do a Bugatti then it all started to make sense when I kept thinking it looks like a bug and has bug in the first part of the name and should be made by a company that really knows what a bug should be like.

It really is an incredible car that goes like stink but it still looks like a bug so should it be called a stink bug?

I have to tell you that the cold medicine I'm taking is really messing with my mind , can you tell:headbang:

Jim Nilsen

[WS6]

couple things to keep in mind when comparing cars. top Gear actually did this not too long ago also. The McLaren was built over 10 years ago. Since then cars have not gotten that much faster, just more refined. I am not talking just the fastest ever. I am referring to Ferraris and Lambos and Porsche. A LPE Stage 2 427 C5 vette spanks a McLaren and will damn near catch the Bugatti I bet. Maybe not in total acceleration. This too was built five years ago.

Now for the king in my mind. Just a single one off car that was based on a very streetable and highly sought after dealer optioned car known as the B2K. That would be a Callaway vette to those that don't know. This one off car used an engine that was notorious for having nothing over 4500 rpms. That would be the 5.7 TPI. This was not a purpose built race car. It was simply a modified Corvette and it went 250+ before the McLaren ever did. The car? The Callaway Sledgehammer. Simply badass. Love the Callaway Aero Kit on any C4 Corvette.

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/callaway_sledgehammer.htm

[BMF Machine]

Sweet Vette, I had a 1986 with the ZR handleing and a 7 speed transmission. It was a piece of junk transmission, but it handled like it was on rails. I bought it in 92 when I was 19 and went through three transmissions that summer? It was red on red w/targa top. I wish I would have put an auto in it and kept the thing:nopity: !

But I still like the Bugatti better!

Kevin:smoke:

[Rich Team11 H/O]

couple things to keep in mind when comparing cars. top Gear actually did this not too long ago also. The McLaren was built over 10 years ago. Since then cars have not gotten that much faster, just more refined. I am not talking just the fastest ever. I am referring to Ferraris and Lambos and Porsche. A LPE Stage 2 427 C5 vette spanks a McLaren and will damn near catch the Bugatti I bet. Maybe not in total acceleration. This too was built five years ago.

Now for the king in my mind. Just a single one off car that was based on a very streetable and highly sought after dealer optioned car known as the B2K. That would be a Callaway vette to those that don't know. This one off car used an engine that was notorious for having nothing over 4500 rpms. That would be the 5.7 TPI. This was not a purpose built race car. It was simply a modified Corvette and it went 250+ before the McLaren ever did. The car? The Callaway Sledgehammer. Simply badass. Love the Callaway Aero Kit on any C4 Corvette.

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/callaway_sledgehammer.htm

For a long time that car was one of my favorites. There was a guy here on Long Island that had a red true twin turbo Callaway...it looked insane. My favorite car of all time (until the Bugatti), also a one off, was the prototype Vector W2 with the aluminum Olds twin turbo engine supposedly had 1100 HP...this was way back in 81!! ....wonder what ever happened to that car. Supposedly the turbos generated so much heat that the carpeting in the rear used to catch fire. I am not sure but I think Andre Agassi took delivery of one and then handed it back due to said problem.

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Second thought I think the Vector is still my favorite.

[BMF Machine]

I liked the looks of the Vector, I remember it, My fav was the Testarossa? Fastest production in it's day?

But the Bugatti completely goes past that, and the only thing that was a little burnt up on it was the leading edges on the spoilers, the winds friction at 253 probably burnt the leading edges off the paint! lololol

Kevin:jump:

[shmoov69]

OOhhhhh........Sledgehammer..........mmmmmmm, yum!!
My all-time favorite car. 255mph in a street Vette in 1989, truly ahead of its time.:3gears:

[ItalianBullitt754]

This car is an engineering marvel but costs way too damn much. There is a 3 step process to get it into high speed mode 220+mph. You actually have to go through a check list while the car is off to check fluid levels, tire pressure and tread etc. Then you turn the key and push the selected mode. Thwe BMW M5 has a similar button to take its' V10 from 400hp to 505hp. Electronics are great. Now you can have a car that your wife can drive all civil like and then push the button and unleash hell!

The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 was made just to prove a point and put their name back on the radar.

Another car that might make you wet yourself under hard acceleration would be the TT Ford GT that a shop in Florida built for a guy named Joe. Over 1000RWHP! On a stock 5.4L long block!

[Ralph LoGrasso]

So I was wondering how the CCX clicks off sub 10 second quarter mile slips while running 20" rear tires. Obviously this car should be more traction limited. I assumed it was due to some seriously advanced traction control systems (which I've been thinking about incorporating into my project a lot lately). While doing some research, I found that Koenigsegg (as well as Aston Martin and Lotus among others) employ the Race Logic system in their production cars:

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control

The system is really advanced -- allows you to dial in wheelsping in 1% increments up to 25%. Anyways, if anyone else was wondering how they were achieving these time slips with 806hp and 335/25/20s: that's a big part of it.

[Rich Team11 H/O]

So I was wondering how the CCX clicks off sub 10 second quarter mile slips while running 20" rear tires. Obviously this car should be more traction limited. I assumed it was due to some seriously advanced traction control systems (which I've been thinking about incorporating into my project a lot lately). While doing some research, I found that Koenigsegg (as well as Aston Martin and Lotus among others) employ the Race Logic system in their production cars:

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control

The system is really advanced -- allows you to dial in wheelsping in 1% increments up to 25%. Anyways, if anyone else was wondering how they were achieving these time slips with 806hp and 335/25/20s: that's a big part of it.

Thats awesome stuff...didnt know that was available aftermarket, never even bothered to look...I think I have a new toy to buy.

[ItalianBullitt754]

Race logic really isn't that expensive either. I wonder how it would work on most newer cars. The Mustang has traction control that is driver defeatable with a button. It cuts spark and back off but don't know how it would work under full throttle situations.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Race logic really isn't that expensive either. I wonder how it would work on most newer cars. The Mustang has traction control that is driver defeatable with a button. It cuts spark and back off but don't know how it would work under full throttle situations.

I'm not really sure, but it's supposed to be a non-intrusive system that actually makes the car faster rather than slower as most TC systems do. The first thing I do when I get into my Camaro is turn the traction control off, since it's so intrusive and makes the car much, much slower.

[ItalianBullitt754]

I'm not really sure, but it's supposed to be a non-intrusive system that actually makes the car faster rather than slower as most TC systems do. The first thing I do when I get into my Camaro is turn the traction control off, since it's so intrusive and makes the car much, much slower.

Exactly! thats what the Stang does. it pulls back. Feels like I let off the gas. Oh well.