Are there any Pro Touring Trucks?

[adpostel]

I am completely new to the whole Pro Touring Concept, but am not new to old muscle cars. But my question would be are there any PT Trucks out there? and if there are, are there any Pics. I have a 68 Chevy LWB Truck and I really like the PT Look and Style. If I were to go the PT or obviously start out with the Street Fighter class then upgrade to the PT class, what mods would be recommended and where is the best place to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated, if information on my truck is needed, I can post....Just let me know. Thanks in advance.

Adolph Postel
Houston, TX

[lower90xcab]

Yes, there are a few pt trucks out there. Here is my attempt with a 98 S10. The truck started life has a ZQ8 which is GM's sport suspension from the factory. All the mods are in my sig.

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[myclone]

IBut my question would be are there any PT Trucks out there?
Adolph Postel
Houston, TX

I dunno if either of my trucks qualify (see sig) for what most people consider Pro Touring to be but I enjoy them as well as the fact this site provides great info that us truck guys can apply to our hay haulers (then we can go kick those guys butts on the track that say trucks cant do the Pro Touring thing :evil: ). Another benefit is that when that cute chic next door needs her tv/entertainment system/etc moved do you think its gonna fit in the back of a Pro Touring car with the fuel cell, battery, roll cage, etc back there? Nope, but we have no worries since our hay haulers have room to spare even with all that stuff mounted in the bed :naughty: .

[Foudie]

Scott, sweet S-10!

[slow4dr]

Click on "Projects" It's the 57 at the top left.

http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com/

[adpostel]

Wow those are some nice trucks.

[astroracer]

This is my '95 GMC Sierra... A 4/6 drop, full poly bushings and a Hellwig rear bar made this guy into a slot "car"...
I consider this a Sport Truck but, if I was to add some big brakes and a few more engine mods, it would be more in the PT flavor.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/08/MVC003Fvi-1.jpg
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[PT Goat]

My tow rig/daily driver might qualify: '03 Silverado SS, lowered, hotchkis bars, big Baer brakes, hawk pads and braided lines, 285/45/22 Toyo S/Ts and a few engine hop-ups.

[TonyL]

Thread on PT trucks #1 (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14864&highlight=pro-touring+truck)

Thread #2 (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19091&highlight=pro-touring+truck)

[Nine Ball]

Sport Trucks.

Until I see something like a '55 Chevy truck with a 10-pt rollcage, fully independent suspension, performance brakes, sectioned body to lower the cg, and a killer engine combo..... I'll call them Sport Trucks.

[neki67]

Sport Trucks.

Until I see something like a '55 Chevy truck with a 10-pt rollcage, fully independent suspension, performance brakes, sectioned body to lower the cg, and a killer engine combo..... I'll call them Sport Trucks.

I remember one that was built like you describe it. It was in one of the magazines, got crashed (I believe at the track) and rebuilt. Must be other people on this forum who remember that particular truck and provide more details and/or pics.

René

[adpostel]

Ya, I was hoping someone could help give me some direction as to what to do first.

Suspension?
Brakes?
Wheels/Tires?

and where exactly is the threshold on the upgrades, I mean my 68 is still in stock stance, but the whole front end, CA's and sway bar and springs, shocks, Disc Brakes, the tilt steering and the 10 Bolt 3:73 Rear End are from an 86 Chev Truck. Also, is it necessary to have an Air Bag Suspension, or would just upgraded bushings and drop kit fit the bill? Also, is it absolutely neccesary to have all 4 wheel Discs? And if so, is there a stock type donor that would work, before spending so much on the aftermarkets?

Any Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Adolph

[TonyL]

you'll not find anyone here willing to tell you what is or is not "required" to have your vehicle considered "pro-touring". the formula was easy with pro-street, fat tires on back, skinnys on front, big engine.

pro-touring is far different. There is no right way or wrong way to fit in.

Is your truck better at everything performance wise than it was stock?
If so, you win. Game over. It's pro-touring now.

Theres no limit to how far you can take it. I'd start with suspension.

[ironworks]

Click on "Projects" It's the 57 at the top left.

http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com/



THAT TRUCK IS DUMB.

Haha

[65chevelle''ss'']

My grandpa gave me his '35 Chevy pickup before he passed away. I wanna "Pro-Tour" it someday after my Chevelle is complete. I was thinking a complete Morrison chassis would fit the bill nicely :)

hmmmmmm.....someday

[go-fish]

Sarting points would be suspension, a truck would more readily accept a rear suspension upgrade like a four bar.space= less hassle. Before that, see what you can do about finding a 2000 and up Tahoe/Yukon 4x4 rearend. Posi and good gears with factory discs.
I would recommend boxing the frame and adding some cross braces to give everything a firm foundation. Find out where your center of balance is and think of ways to get it to the center. Get some good shocks. Pro-touring to me is about touring the open road. Whatever would benefit winding open roads, the straight at the end of the curve, right into another hairpin. It means different things to some but overall it's about Pro (meaning something that is better than the avg.) Touring (totravel from place to place especially for pleasure). At least that's what webster says.

[lower90xcab]

Scott, sweet S-10!

thanks!!!


Ya, I was hoping someone could help give me some direction as to what to do first.

Suspension?
Brakes?
Wheels/Tires?

and where exactly is the threshold on the upgrades, I mean my 68 is still in stock stance, but the whole front end, CA's and sway bar and springs, shocks, Disc Brakes, the tilt steering and the 10 Bolt 3:73 Rear End are from an 86 Chev Truck. Also, is it necessary to have an Air Bag Suspension, or would just upgraded bushings and drop kit fit the bill? Also, is it absolutely neccesary to have all 4 wheel Discs? And if so, is there a stock type donor that would work, before spending so much on the aftermarkets?

Any Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Adolph

I would start with the suspension, then work on the brakes and then wheels/tires. Im still amazed at how well my truck handles in the corners. I have never had it on the track, but would like to really soon. I have just played around with the truck on the backroads in lafayette. Like I said before my truck had the ZQ8 Sport Suspension under it from the factory. Since I have lowered it 5/6 with Belltech parts the handling went up 10fold. I would like to find some bigger sway bars and swap a 4link and coilovers on to all four corners.

4th gen camaro or c5/c6 vette brakes seem to be the most swaped factory disc brakes right now. I swaped LT1 Impala disc brakes on to my 12bolt. Im looking into the process of modifying my drop spindles to fit a 4th gen camaro front disc brakes.

Hope that helps.

[neki67]

pro-touring is far different. There is no right way or wrong way to fit in.

According to one of the previous posts, there apparently is however a 'DUMB' way of doing it, . . . . . :sleeping:

[ironworks]

That is my "dumb" truck, Sorry to confuse, I was just being an ass.

[Lawrence]

Well, the plan is to build this one up to be as "pro-touring" as my budget can get. It's currently second gen Camaro clip front and rear, but I intend to put a 4 bar at the rear, and aftermarket front suspension on. It's got an LQ9 motor and either a 4L60e or 4L80e to start with, and will eventually get twin turbos. Whether that counts as "pro-touring" or not is beyond me, but I'll enjoy it either way.

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[neki67]

That is my "dumb" truck, Sorry to confuse, I was just being an ass.

Guess who's feeling like an a$$ now . . . . :hammer:

[StRacerDuke]

Wasn't there a Black 57 Ford at SEMA last year that was P/T? Anyone have the specs/pictures?

I remember it having greyed out TT2's and big brakes on it. Never got the details of any motor or suspension work.

[Air Daddy]

Wasn't there a Black 57 Ford at SEMA last year that was P/T? Anyone have the specs/pictures?

I remember it having greyed out TT2's and big brakes on it. Never got the details of any motor or suspension work.

This 56?
I here it belongs to some guy that once worked for Boyd Coddington.
Hell, who hasn't worked for Boyd?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/08/14-1.jpg

[TonyL]

I here it belongs to some guy that once worked for Boyd Coddington.
Hell, who hasn't worked for Boyd?

HAahhahah

wait. No one makes fun of the foose.:getout:

(at least until I get overhauled.)

[neki67]

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[trackrat79]

This is my project. Look familiar?
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I know your thinking that is not a 68 and your right but acourding to the vin it is. Someone down the line changed the front sheet metal for some unknown reason.
As others have said, I would start with suspension. The back is just about as good as you can get with a few refinments asuming you have trailing arms and not leaf springs so I would start with the front. You have a few choices in that department. You can get bolt in tubular upper and lower control arms from cpp that improve the stock geometry or you can go with a complete after market uprade and even there you have a few choices. Flat out engineering makes a front cross member that bolts in that uses c4 or c5 corvette front components including the rack and pinion steering. Another option is to put a mustang two type kit in and there are several companies that offer kits to put them in our type of truck.

For the back all you realy need is to mount a longer track bar for the fram rail to the oposite trailing arm end. If you realy want to go hole hog I would recomend a wats type link.

Ride Hight and shocks are probly just as important as the previouse items. The lower the better but to go real low you need good shocks that are pretty stiff too not bottom out on every little road reflector or dip in the road.

Weight is a big issue as well. Anything you can do to cut the weight of the truck will help. Some guys say that you just want to remove weight that will help lower the cg and I say bull. Any weight you can cut no matter where on the truck it comes from will help. My truck as it sits right now is around 3800 pounds. Lighter than you thaught huh. Funny thing is that I have not removed that much yet from it's stock form. It was right around 3950 stock.

Any way thats should be enough to get you started.

[ScotI]

The 67~72's are good starting points w/the rear suspensions needing some COG changes & shock/spring tuning. Definitely upgrade the front suspension & brakes.... several companies offer a variety of ways to improve the stock geometry.

Just remember, unless you do swap in some serious hardware..... it's still a truck (that doesn't mean it can't be fun though).

I prefer to have the better handling & still use it for work when the time comes:

[Diognes56]

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I know it is the same guy, and I am pretty sure it is the same truck, but I am not sure if the setup is the same.

Anyway, here is what he was running in 2000.

Quote from: March 2000 Truckin' (http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/truckin_3-00.html)


'57 CHEVROLET PICKUP
Doug Blocker, Prescott, Arizona.
OK, we wanted to see what you could do without any emissions restrictions and invited Doug and his awesome '57 Chevy to our event. His truck uses a 408-cid small-block Chevy that is equipped with a host of NASCAR-style engine components. It makes 680 hp, and the truck handles like it's on rails. With a Ford 9-inch rear and 3.70 gears, Doug's truck is set up more for SCCA racing than it is for the quarter-mile track. Still, this wheel-hopping '57 managed to pull off some decent times.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/09/truckin_300_35-1.jpg



Here is a couple of other pics :) Here (https://www.pro-touring.com/events/Track_Day/Parking%20Lot/Misc_Doug_Blockers_Blue_Truck_Parking.jpg) and here (https://www.pro-touring.com/events/Track_Day/Parking%20Lot/Misc_Doug_Blockers_Blue_Truck_with_Scott_Gillman.j pg).

David

[Diognes56]

I have a 68 Chevy LWB Truck and I really like the PT Look and Style.

If you haven't already, you might be interested in seeing Al's '72 Long Bed (http://www.radrides.com/photogallery.php?sub=als). Here is a good article Here (http://www.customclassictrucks.com/featuredvehicles/137_0501_1972_chevrolet_c10_fleetside_longbed/). :cool:

David

[neki67]

I know it is the same guy, and I am pretty sure it is the same truck, but I am not sure if the setup is the same.

Anyway, here is what he was running in 2000.

Quote from: March 2000 Truckin' (http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/truckin_3-00.html)



Here is a couple of other pics :) Here (https://www.pro-touring.com/events/Track_Day/Parking%20Lot/Misc_Doug_Blockers_Blue_Truck_Parking.jpg) and here (https://www.pro-touring.com/events/Track_Day/Parking%20Lot/Misc_Doug_Blockers_Blue_Truck_with_Scott_Gillman.j pg).

David

I know he seriously crashed it at some point and was planning on rebuilding it.

[adpostel]

Wow, thats a clean truck there! (Al's 72 lwb) Hopefully mine will get somewhere close to half that when its done.