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dennis68
10-26-2004, 05:06 PM
Well, we got a pair of 2005 GT's today. They run pretty good, I had one on the rack for PDI and was somewhat unimpressed with the underpinnings. Contrary to the rumors I had heard, no IRS yet. It does run a true 3-link albeit with a set of the shortest links I have ever seen. The LCA are 18" center-to-center and the 3rd link is 8" :hand: . I figured they would have provided room for some longer links, at least the PHB is 41". I also did not like the looks of the frame mount for the 3rd link, or maybe I just over engineer the hell out everything. The OE Ford mount is a simple stamped steel mount held in place by (3) 12mm bolts threaded into the rear subframe sheetmetal :scared: . Wish I had my camera, maybe I can some pics tomorrow.

protour_chevelle
10-26-2004, 05:09 PM
Are you sure there wasn't a nut welded onto something where you can't see? Sounds kinda hackish?

-Matt

dennis68
10-26-2004, 06:13 PM
Oh, I'm sure are floating nuts inside the cabin, point was more that there wasn't any frame or heavy steel reinforcing to the pan area. Seems like the under the tremendous acceleration/braking forces that car is likely to be subjected to (was today :3gears: anyways) it could rip off the floor.

protour_chevelle
10-26-2004, 06:32 PM
Sounds iffy to me. Perhaps theres something tucked up in there that you were not able to spot?

I'm not doubting you, I never thought Ford would be so cheap on something like that.

-Matt

blown69nova
10-27-2004, 02:44 AM
Sure looks sweet though!

Rick Dorion
10-27-2004, 03:28 AM
Sounds like a good aftermarket candidate! My brother is buying a GT this Spring. He only keeps cars a few years and over maintains them so it may be mine after that!

Mean 69
10-27-2004, 12:15 PM
I work right around the corner from the Saleen factory, and drove by there last week. They had about fifteen of them waiting to be converted. Two of them were on a truck, so I spyed the chassis as well. I thought the exact same thing, the control arms are really, really short, especially the upper. I couldn't see the brackets.

One thing I will say is that they sound super nice, and I actually like the styling of them. Given the lack of competition in the current "muscle car" arena, these things are going to sell like mad. The aftermarket is going to have a huge opportunity, no one is going to leave them alone.

Dennis, did it look like you could modify the links, etc? I couldn't see enough, but it wasn't terribly obvious that you could without cutting. (And by the way, I still owe you some info, been a bit busy. Hope it isn't holding you up?)

Mark

MoeBawlz
10-27-2004, 12:34 PM
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Saleen Mustang

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Roush Mustang

I think the Saleen looks great, Im just not to fond of the wing...

dennis68
10-27-2004, 01:33 PM
You could build a new mount for the 3rd link, there is room for some more length-maybe 6". The lower links would take a bit of hacking to get something longer in there, you would have to cut out the factory frame mount and channel the floor to create enough room for the links to pivot.

No, not holding me up. Whenever you get to it. Thanks.

zbugger
10-27-2004, 07:02 PM
Damn Dennis, I think you're asking too much. It is just a ford anyway.....













Hee hee hee..... Starting crap.

TonyL
10-27-2004, 07:58 PM
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wow, thats some good photoshop work right there. nicely done.

MoeBawlz
10-27-2004, 08:29 PM
I wish i could take credit for it, but I found that online...

MoeBawlz
10-27-2004, 08:35 PM
and as it seems, as quickly as they are sold and driven off the lot... they are just as quickly sideswiped and sent to a body shop...

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dennis68
10-27-2004, 08:40 PM
Ooooooops!!

Jagarang
10-28-2004, 03:56 AM
That looks like he was "hot dogging" and lost it into a pole. That yellow paint is on all the nice panel munching parking lot posts, lamp bases etc! Too bad. I hope they were allright!

GT350Clone
10-28-2004, 05:36 AM
The wrecked car was done by a transport driver - car slipped off the "plank" in the rain. Probably a Chevy guy, who couldn't handle the power! :slap: :enguard: :icon_razz

Here's some more 05 shots and details:

Ford Racing program is offering a "body in white" to certified racers. Not legal for street use - can't be titled. Cost is $3500! :cool: They are also working on a "turn-key" racer (not street legal as well) - no pricing announced, probably close to $50k.

Some VERY interesting tuner cars coming out, although (IMO) the tuners are having a hard time "improving" the body...
Saleen
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MRT
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Steeda
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TonyL
10-28-2004, 11:27 AM
love how saleen gave a nod to elenore and put the driving light by the headlamp. too cool.

will69camaro
10-28-2004, 11:33 AM
Body in whites used to be 1500 but they bumped the price because you could buy a wrecked 6cyl and with a little swapping of VIN and buying all new ford parts you could have a running GT for around 10k or a replica Mach 1 for 20. They raised the price to hopefully run away those kind. There are already a few people i've heard of that have the body in white 05's and have had them for a while and are working on making them their turbo drag cars. I wouldn't mind getting a body in white and making a track car, even if you cant title it, it'd be pretty fun to drive around a track :cool:

Thanks for the pics of the Saleen and various styles i hadn't seen a few of them.

William

MoeBawlz
10-28-2004, 03:37 PM
I keep finding more and more stuff on the 05 Stang

Dragstang (http://www.paulshp.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=506&password=&sort=1)

mdprovee
10-29-2004, 06:43 AM
I just saw one on the freeway this morning. I like it and I am a chevy guy. Now to figure out how to buy one without spending any camaro money.

Mike