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TitoJones
06-28-2006, 05:10 PM
Guys-

We just sold our last set of the tall AFX spindles for the F/X body platforms. We do have around 15 sets of the tall spindle for use on A/G body cars with B body upper/lower ball joints. Steering arms are going off to the anodizer middle of next week, and we should be shipping in about 3 weeks.

For those F/X body guys who missed out on the 2nd batch, the 3rd batch will be ready in the middle of Sept, but the price has been increased from $625 to $695.

A and G body guys- you have 15 or less chances to get in before you feel that price increase. Steering arms are $175 for the pair.

Tyler

Larry Callahan
06-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Way to go Tyler!

formula
06-29-2006, 09:20 AM
Wow...hey....great....so....about those...second gen spindles...any word on them? :hammer:

zbugger
06-29-2006, 11:16 AM
Wow...hey....great....so....about those...second gen spindles...any word on them? :hammer:

And for this, you're not getting any.....

formula
06-29-2006, 11:18 AM
Humph. I didn't even want them.

Can I please have them now?

Steve1968LS2
06-29-2006, 11:45 AM
Selling out is ALWAYS a good thing.. congrats Tyler!

TitoJones
06-29-2006, 04:17 PM
Thanks to all you members here our AFX spindle venture has been a total success. We will continue to make these types of products and cater to platforms that don't get much love.

Formula-

You are a very persistant guy. We are working with Marcus at SC&C on completing the steering arms. I can't give you a timeline, but I can say we will have an application for the 70-81 F body by the end of the year.

You are blacklisted from buying them though. ;) J/K

Tyler

NvrDun71
06-29-2006, 04:44 PM
Hey Tyler....
This may be a stupid question or idea but have you guys considered manufacturing a cheaper version of the AFX design spindle? Possibly out of a different material (without sacrificing integrity) with something other than the C5/6 hub/bearing assembly. More or less just a bare bones spindle with the same design??? Just Curious if there was an option for us poor folk who want to reap the benefits of an awesome design on a budget.....

TitoJones
06-29-2006, 05:04 PM
Hey Tyler....
This may be a stupid question or idea but have you guys considered manufacturing a cheaper version of the AFX design spindle? Possibly out of a different material (without sacrificing integrity) with something other than the C5/6 hub/bearing assembly. More or less just a bare bones spindle with the same design??? Just Curious if there was an option for us poor folk who want to reap the benefits of an awesome design on a budget.....


We asked our forging company about doing different materials, and our die cannot do anything but aluminum. We thought of doing a 1 off set in Titainium, but the shrinking of the cooled part will not work with the tolerances of the dies we have.

I usually don't do this, but Heidt's and Fatman both make a taller spindle that will accept stock style hubs and brakes, but the real drawback is the 2" pin drop. The drop on their spindles cause huge tie rod to rim issues, and limit widths to 7" or under.

We wouldn't make a downgraded spindle due to our strive to push the envelope on all our products. Besides, before we sold out, we were cheaper than a set of DSE upper control arms, which don't offer much in terms of handling, and we continue to out perform $3K stage 3 DSE kits and Guldstrand mod cars. For the price, our performance and quality cannot be touched.

Tyler

Bill Howell
06-29-2006, 05:13 PM
I am looking forward to doing a article on the installation of my set Tyler, and "trying them out" at the protouring event here in Sept.!

NvrDun71
06-29-2006, 07:39 PM
We asked our forging company about doing different materials, and our die cannot do anything but aluminum. We thought of doing a 1 off set in Titainium, but the shrinking of the cooled part will not work with the tolerances of the dies we have.

I usually don't do this, but Heidt's and Fatman both make a taller spindle that will accept stock style hubs and brakes, but the real drawback is the 2" pin drop. The drop on their spindles cause huge tie rod to rim issues, and limit widths to 7" or under.

We wouldn't make a downgraded spindle due to our strive to push the envelope on all our products. Besides, before we sold out, we were cheaper than a set of DSE upper control arms, which don't offer much in terms of handling, and we continue to out perform $3K stage 3 DSE kits and Guldstrand mod cars. For the price, our performance and quality cannot be touched.

Tyler

I here ya man. I appreciate the response. I have heard nothing but excellent reviews about the AFX spindles. Just thought I would throw the question out there. In time I will have a set......

chicane67
06-29-2006, 09:59 PM
In a thought.

To compromise the thought in a well engineered product by making a 'cheaper' version is something ATS will not do. The product is what it is..... and if could have been done 'cheaper'..... I am sure it would have been.

But the 'no compromise' motto of ATS stands true. Once it's in the blood there is no turning back.......

71Formula
06-30-2006, 08:28 AM
We are working with Marcus at SC&C on completing the steering arms. I can't give you a timeline, but I can say we will have an application for the 70-81 F body by the end of the year.


Now that is good news! I have got to get a set of those for my 71. Keep us updated on these will be available. I know I will start saving up the pennies right now.

aonghus
06-30-2006, 02:43 PM
...and we continue to out perform $3K stage 3 DSE kits and Guldstrand mod cars. For the price, our performance and quality cannot be touched.


I have nothing to contest with regards to quality, but as of yet, are there any apples to apples comparisons between the addition of the ATS spindles versus the Stage 3 DSE kits?

I lurk quite a bit on these forums and others, read the mags. I havent seen any real world tests. Just "bench racing" and discussion regarding the advantages of modified geometry provided by the taller spindle versus the stock height spindle.

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

formula
06-30-2006, 06:52 PM
Thanks to all you members here our AFX spindle venture has been a total success. We will continue to make these types of products and cater to platforms that don't get much love.

Formula-

You are a very persistant guy. We are working with Marcus at SC&C on completing the steering arms. I can't give you a timeline, but I can say we will have an application for the 70-81 F body by the end of the year.

You are blacklisted from buying them though. ;) J/K

Tyler

I prefer obsessive over persistent. Plus when I grew up, I learned that persistence often leads to reward. I'll leave you guys alone till the end of the year. Time to start saving up!!

lowboy
06-30-2006, 08:16 PM
Guess I missed out again. Been waiting on the Chicane suspension system w/splined swaybar to be completed. You guys at ATS promised to contact me as soon as this kit is finished. Wouldn't mind some kind of heads up so that every time I see that the AFX spindles are sold out, I don't feel like I missed out.

vanzuuk1
07-01-2006, 02:42 AM
Speaking of persistent, any word on a price for the back spoiler in fiberglass?

Rick Dorion
07-01-2006, 06:18 AM
In the interim I purchased the SC&C UCa's with the 1" taller UBJ. Is there any reason to go with an ATX tall spindle using a std UBJ when they become available or get the standard height spindle along with my existing tall UBJ?

TonyHuntimer
07-01-2006, 06:22 AM
Hey Tyler,

How much are the bearing Corvette bearing pack's going for these days?

Congrats on selling out! It's nice that you don't raise the price on the spindles as soon as the foundry raises your price. Instead you wait until you receive the higher priced run. That's good for your customers. :)

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

jwcarguy
07-01-2006, 09:29 AM
Formula makes a great point about being "obsessive" But aren't we all obsessive about our cars and pro-touring in general! Which means we want the best products and services for our babies that we are obsessive (and sometimes persistent about) Excellence, great customer service and Top of the Line products are what you will get from ATS!
I was one of the lucky ones that just bought a set of AFX spindles to change direction on my 68 restored SS to go to Pro Touring. Tyler, Shane and the ATS staff have been instrumental in helping me and all of us in our quest to build the best cars to suite our individual needs.
I will post my own experiences/ results with the new spindles, but if you're in dought, you should talk to some of the top notch suspension gurus (that we are lucky to have on this site) about the quality, craftsmenship and performance with ATS products.
My car will be down at ATS' shop for Tyler and Shane to set up the alignment hopfully next week. I'll post my opinion/ experience then. That's if I ever want to stop driving it and actually get out of the car! (Obsessive!!)
Many Thanks to ATS and their staff, for all the help,state of the art products, information, service and support! :headbang: Jeff Wheeler

Marcus SC&C
07-03-2006, 10:14 AM
Rick, our Stage 1 with the adj. arms and tall UBJs aren`t 1" tall they`re closer to half that. Combined with our variation of the G mod the Stage 1 (or 2) is just slightly less aggressive than the ATS tall spindles alone. Better or worse? Once you get into a nice negative camber curve and an RC height 2"-3" *above* the ground it`s more splitting hairs and what works for each individual cars springs/dampening rates,tires/air pressure,anti roll bar rates etc. than what`s "better or worse". Of course the improved geometry is only part of the AFX spindles appeal. One thing`s for sure though muscle cars have never had it as good as they do today! :) Mark SC&C

Rick Dorion
07-03-2006, 12:19 PM
That's what I get for relying on my memory, Mark :)

Thanks for the insights. Sure do like to stare at the stage 1 kit installed while I wait for my engine!!

TitoJones
07-07-2006, 11:34 AM
Hey Tyler,

How much are the bearing Corvette bearing pack's going for these days?



The last time I checked, they were going for $430 per bearing pack. That has to hurt.

12 sets of A body left guys. ;)

Tyler

jfman
09-22-2006, 11:33 PM
The last time I checked, they were going for $430 per bearing pack. That has to hurt.

12 sets of A body left guys. ;)

Tyler

$161 at autozone.

chicane67
09-22-2006, 11:56 PM
$161 at autozone.

And what product do you get in the box for $161 ?? I doubt it is a Delphi/Timken for $161.......

There is a big difference between manufacturers when it come to OE quality or better. So the question is do I skimp, or do I get the quality that I expect ??

Id be interested to see what is offered for $161. If it is a Delphi/Timken.... they would most likely be seconds.

ilovefirstgens
09-23-2006, 12:08 AM
And what product do you get in the box for $161 ?? I doubt it is a Delphi/Timken for $161.......

There is a big difference between manufacturers when it come to OE quality or better. So the question is do I skimp, or do I get the quality that I expect ??

Id be interested to see what is offered for $161. If it is a Delphi/Timken.... they would most likely be seconds.

Well i just got rear bearing packs for my c4 rear from autozone and theyre timken... $154 btw

chicane67
09-23-2006, 12:44 AM
BIG difference between C4 and C5/6........ considering that the C4 has been around since what, '84 ??

Carver67
09-23-2006, 09:33 AM
I just stumbled across a gm dealer/warehouse on the web listing the c5 bearing packs for 299.42

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=213815&chapter=DP1ZA1&appSectionid=19&groupid=20135&subgroupid=60598&make=6&model=Corvette&year=2005&catalogid=1

Anyone seen lower yet for original GM Parts?:dunno:
Mike

NvrDun71
09-23-2006, 10:02 AM
Rockauto.com has ACDelco C5 bearing packs for $252.79....seems like a hell of a deal

EFI69Cam
09-23-2006, 10:25 AM
Rockauto.com has ACDelco C5 bearing packs for $252.79....seems like a hell of a deal
If you buy them from ATS for just $350ea. they come with an awesome spindle attached to them.

NvrDun71
09-23-2006, 10:34 AM
If you buy them from ATS for just $350ea. they come with an awesome spindle attached to them.

Very true....But he was just asking for a good price on C5 bearing packs.

jfman
09-23-2006, 10:58 AM
If you buy them from ATS for just $350ea. they come with an awesome spindle attached to them.

LOL I wish ! The spindles dont come with hubs...

TitoJones
09-23-2006, 02:03 PM
LOL I wish ! The spindles dont come with hubs...

Yes they do. The pricing on them is $695 per pair with brand new GM C5 Corvette hubs installed. That works out to $347.50 per spindle with a hub installed, which is less than a GM dealer will sell you 1 hub!

Tyler

Bill Howell
09-23-2006, 02:07 PM
The C-5 brakes mount up to the spindles much better than they do to the hub only option also.:poke:
This is without a doubt the best money I have spent on my malibu, period. While it is certainly not a cheap fix, you certainly get your money's worth and I guarantee you will not be unhappy with the results.

jfman
09-23-2006, 02:36 PM
Yes they do. The pricing on them is $695 per pair with brand new GM C5 Corvette hubs installed. That works out to $347.50 per spindle with a hub installed, which is less than a GM dealer will sell you 1 hub!

Tyler

Damn I always thought it was for the spindles only...

How much for just the spindles W/0 hubs ?

Rick Dorion
09-24-2006, 03:33 AM
Is the 3rd batch available?

Taylor1969
09-24-2006, 04:26 PM
Is the 3rd batch available?

I spoke with Tyler on Thursday... He said they should have them soon - hopefully by the end of the month. I plan to get a set and all new front suspension MOOG pieces as well

EFI69Cam
09-24-2006, 05:44 PM
Damn I always thought it was for the spindles only...

How much for just the spindles W/0 hubs ?

You won't be able to buy them separate and save any money.

rohrt
09-25-2006, 10:23 AM
I guess I thought that price was w/out hubs also. I would be much more inclined to buy the spindles w/out the hubs. All about purchasing parts under the radar. But then you still have to deal with the Metric bolts.

TitoJones
09-25-2006, 10:42 AM
You can buy a pair of our AFX spindles with no hubs for $445 BUT----
You MUST send us your hubs for installation, no exceptions. Proper install requires our fixtures and special tools, so you will not get a pair with out the hubs installed before shipping.

Just a FYI- We have only had 2 people send in hubs, and they both ended up going used after pricing the GM ones out. The Autozone bearing packs are not of the same quality that you will get from GM, we have closely looked at both and decided to go directly to Delphi for our hub needs. We purchase so many at a time that we get them cheaper than GM dealers do, and often get calls from them to purchase our hubs.

Tyler

jfman
09-25-2006, 01:38 PM
You can buy a pair of our AFX spindles with no hubs for $445 BUT----
You MUST send us your hubs for installation, no exceptions. Proper install requires our fixtures and special tools, so you will not get a pair with out the hubs installed before shipping.

Just a FYI- We have only had 2 people send in hubs, and they both ended up going used after pricing the GM ones out. The Autozone bearing packs are not of the same quality that you will get from GM, we have closely looked at both and decided to go directly to Delphi for our hub needs. We purchase so many at a time that we get them cheaper than GM dealers do, and often get calls from them to purchase our hubs.

Tyler

Thanks for the info. It's just that I found a complete pair of C5 spindles and the hubs are on it.

About the highlighted part. Does that mean that The bearings wont be serviceable by anybodyelse but you? Please explain.

Also, is ther a mailing/notification list for when the new batch of spindles and arms are ready?

TitoJones
09-25-2006, 02:28 PM
Once we have installed the hardware and hub to the spindle, it can be serviced by the user while the spindles are still attached to the car. Look at our install guide for the procedure:
http://www.t56kit.com/downloads/files/7.pdf

We are not doing a wating list this time around, people just place the order at this point, and we ship as spindles come in.

Tyler

GinoRin
09-25-2006, 07:21 PM
Are the G body spindles still in stock, or is everything sold out? I have the Baer Track setup brand new with global west offset upper control arms for b-body spindles, but I think I want to put the better spindles and C6 Z06 brakes on my Grand National. If I read the website correctly, I already have the correct upper control arms. By the way I have the stock lowers with the GW del a lums installed and also eibach pro-kit springs. I Had Simmons make me 18x8.5 front wheels but Group A told me there is a different offset used when youre using B-body spindles. Will the AFX spindles change the hub spacing/offset as compared to the Baer track setup? I just want to make sure my brand new wheels will work if I swap over to the AFX/ C6Z setup. Sorry for the newbie questions, but I just discovered the AFX alternative and like the design MUCH better than the b-body option, and would also like to take advantage of the superior hub.

Thanks in advance!

Bill Howell
09-25-2006, 07:26 PM
I can not answer all your questions, but I just did the swap and had to get new wheels. the ones that fit are 17x7 with 4 3/4 bs. What is your bs?

jfman
09-25-2006, 09:14 PM
I can not answer all your questions, but I just did the swap and had to get new wheels. the ones that fit are 17x7 with 4 3/4 bs. What is your bs?

What kind of car ? A-body ?

Bill Howell
09-26-2006, 12:43 PM
Mine is a G-body. 80 malibu

796spdbu
09-28-2006, 02:22 PM
Tyler....I have a 79 malibu with hotckis upper arms and tubular lowers from an s-10.Will the afx spindles work with my arms.The s-10 lowers use the same lbj as the malibu.What bracket does it require for the 14" z-06 brakes to work?
Bill howell... what suspension are you going with on your bu.I havent been on for some time and was wondering if i missed something on it?

Bill Howell
09-28-2006, 06:18 PM
I installed the ATX spindles and SC&C UCAs. Excellent results, I highly recommend them. Absolutely the only surprise was the required change of b/s for front wheels. Wheel track location does not change, but on my car ( I have 1" drop springs also) the wheels dropped into the wheelwells far enough I had to change the b/s inboard about 1/2".
C-5 brakes really helped too, now it will stop....lol

GinoRin
09-29-2006, 06:27 PM
Bill,
I'd agree completely about the backspace difference from going to the ATX spindle from the stock G body spindle, but my question is whether or not there is a backspace difference when going from a b-body spindle on a G-body to the ATX spindle on a G-body. Does anyone know??

Thanks everyone!

GinoRin
10-04-2006, 02:36 PM
does anyone know???

Thanks

Marcus SC&C
10-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Off the top of my head I`d say you`ll need slightly less backspacing with the AFX spindles. They`ll be very close. I`ll dig out a set of B spindles and rotors and check them vs. AFX spindles. Can`t promise it`ll be tomorrow but I`ll try. Mark SC&C

GinoRin
10-04-2006, 07:38 PM
Mark,
Thanks so much! Once I have that answer I'm putting my new b-body spindle baer track kit up for sale and ordering AFX spindles so i can stack in some C6 Z06 calipers n rotors :) I just want to make sure the new 18" simmons wheels I got are going to be the correct backspace, as I ordered them from group A specifically to fit the B-spindle. But I guess if they need less backspace I could have the mounting pad of the wheel milled a little, too... either way, thanks for checking that out for me! I'm sure others will eventually have the same question if they already have custom wheels made for the b-spindle.

P.S. does anyone make a rear disc conversion kit for the 8.5" 10 bolt drum rear? want to put the 4 piston C6Z brakes in the back too...

Thanks in advance!

Marcus SC&C
10-05-2006, 11:29 AM
Gino I just measured them. The measurments aren`t ultra accurate because I had to guestimate a little (the parts I dug out were a 12" B rotor and an 11" B spindle) but it should be pretty close. The AFX spindles have about 1/4" less total offset than the B body spindles so your wheels will probably be just fine. We`ve had issues from time to time with our G-5 package because it requires a wheel with no more than 4.5" BS. The AFX spindles will allow you to run 5" BS maybe even a little more which is a LOT easier to find in 17"+ dia. ! Mark SC&C

olds87
10-05-2006, 11:57 AM
How much of width can go on the wheels for spindles?

jfman
10-05-2006, 12:05 PM
There are a lot of variables to be considered. (car type it's going on) short or tall spindle(A-body guy here) Thickness of rotor used etc..

I think I would prefer to buy a wheel with a little more of offset than less because you can always add a spacer(within reasonable thicknesses) if you have too much offset but you cant always have the mounting surface of the wheel shaved if you dont have enough of it ... In fact I would never want to have wheels that were milled on my car for safety reasons.


OLDS87-
I'm going to go with 7inch wide wheels on the front to give me more room and facilitate fitment. My friend went with 8in in the front and he is having turning radius issues due to the wheels being so much wider than the stockers. That's an important factor for a street car.

jfman
11-28-2006, 10:19 PM
You can buy a pair of our AFX spindles with no hubs for $445 BUT----
You MUST send us your hubs for installation, no exceptions. Proper install requires our fixtures and special tools, so you will not get a pair with out the hubs installed before shipping.

Just a FYI- We have only had 2 people send in hubs, and they both ended up going used after pricing the GM ones out. The Autozone bearing packs are not of the same quality that you will get from GM, we have closely looked at both and decided to go directly to Delphi for our hub needs. We purchase so many at a time that we get them cheaper than GM dealers do, and often get calls from them to purchase our hubs.

Tyler

HAve you guyz gotten the new batch yet ? I already have hubs because I bought everything at once (hubs/rotors/caliper/hoses) from a used c5 corvette a while ago etc...

I want to know if I can send them out to you guyz now. I'm ready to buy VISA in hand lol :)

TitoJones
11-28-2006, 11:22 PM
Yep. We have them in stock, steering arms too.

Tyler

jfman
11-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Ok. I'm ready to buy them. I'll get the adjustable uppers, the balljoints and the steering arms as well. Can you give me a total and most importantly an address to ship the hubs to ?


Also I have a question about the steering arm. Is the arm directly machined/reamed to accept the steering arm ball joint or is it a pressed in insert ? Reason I am asking is that I'm installing a 4th gen Camaro rack and pinion in my car and It would be nice to have the matching insert/machining in the arms for the 4th gen balljoint.

72NovaSS
11-29-2006, 01:25 AM
P.S. does anyone make a rear disc conversion kit for the 8.5" 10 bolt drum rear? want to put the 4 piston C6Z brakes in the back too...

Thanks in advance!


http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10092

Hope this helps. -brad

TitoJones
11-29-2006, 10:32 AM
JFman-
The addy is on our website at www.t56kit.com. If you give us a call I can go over all the details of your order.
The steering arms are machined with the tie rod taper in it.

Tyler

EricU
11-29-2006, 12:11 PM
We are working with Marcus at SC&C on completing the steering arms. I can't give you a timeline, but I can say we will have an application for the 70-81 F body by the end of the year.

Tomorrow is December 1st! And that is close to the end of the year. Nasa has the following dates for next year;
January 21-22: Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (HPDE only) (http://www.nasaproracing.com/schedules/norcal.html#jan22)
February 4-5: Infineon Raceway (Season opener!) (http://www.nasaproracing.com/schedules/norcal.html#Feb4)

Are you guys close?

I need to get my 77 T/A going for next season as a true track car as I just spent $1,600 fixing the hood on my car as GM didn't bother to put a tow hook on the CTS-V!

Will SC&C's adj upper arms with the ATS 2nd gen spindles work with coil overs?

Thanks Eric.

dipren443
11-29-2006, 12:30 PM
I have been inquiring with regular occurence about this as well. I just received this email from Tyler at ATS yesterday.

:banghead:

Nick



Nick-

I really have no idea. It might be 3-4 months before we even look at it again, then another 2 for machining of the parts.

Tyler


On 11/28/06, Nicholas DiPrenda <[email protected] (http://us.f600.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[email protected])> wrote:
Tyler,

Any ideas on approximate completion date? Within 1 month? 6 months?? I am not trying to be a pain, I am just curious as I was planning on buying my car a Christmas present and if the spindles would be ready within a couple of months, I will wait for those. If not, I will be buying the 670 steering box from you guys within the next few weeks.

Thanks,
Nick

EricU
11-29-2006, 01:03 PM
I have been inquiring with regular occurence about this as well. I just received this email from Tyler at ATS yesterday.


Nick-

I really have no idea. It might be 3-4 months before we even look at it again, then another 2 for machining of the parts.

Tyler


Ouch! Looks like maybe the end of 07?

I guess I will have to start with just the SC&C upper arms and run the stock front brakes for now.

Plus I still have the rearend suspension, rear diff, rear brakes not to mention the LSX & 5-speed conversion.

Eric.

Marcus SC&C
12-01-2006, 07:17 AM
FWIW guys we`re dragging a little on the 2nd gens too. We have 2 cars lined up for fitment and testing and both are having scheduling issues. It`s not going to be a big deal once we get a car in here. The spindles aren`t going to create much if any geometry change because the 2nd gen spindles are already pretty tall so we`ll still be packaging them with a specific tall ball joint for that. The steering arm is where most of the time will be invested. On our side of things we`re still sticking with our modular approach so the AFX spindles will work perfectly with our current Stage 1 package. Mark SC&C

dipren443
12-01-2006, 08:27 AM
FWIW guys we`re dragging a little on the 2nd gens too. We have 2 cars lined up for fitment and testing and both are having scheduling issues. It`s not going to be a big deal once we get a car in here. The spindles aren`t going to create much if any geometry change because the 2nd gen spindles are already pretty tall so we`ll still be packaging them with a specific tall ball joint for that. The steering arm is where most of the time will be invested. On our side of things we`re still sticking with our modular approach so the AFX spindles will work perfectly with our current Stage 1 package. Mark SC&C

Marc,

I have been communicating occasionally with Tyler in regards to this matter for over a year. I wish someone would have said something that you were looking for a car to use a test mule. I could have my camaro there in 4 or so hours, I am just in Western PA and I do not use the car on a daily basis... No scheduling issues from here.

Nick

PM for a phone number if needed.

Marcus SC&C
12-04-2006, 08:09 AM
It`s not just getting a test car it`s getting the time and shop space too. The funny thing is for about 15 years I was never without at least one 2nd gen on my own. Hmmm,this might just be a good excuse to buy another one... ;) Mark SC&C

Damn True
12-18-2006, 03:33 PM
What is the center to center measurement for the brake mounting holes on the AFX spindle?

aonghus
12-18-2006, 03:59 PM
What is the center to center measurement for the brake mounting holes on the AFX spindle?

5.0" center to center.

Damn True
12-18-2006, 03:59 PM
Mahalo!

aonghus
12-18-2006, 05:51 PM
upon closer inspection, I've gotta say it appears to be slightly larger than 5"... I'm measuring incorrectly in the picture.

friend is coming over with calipers later tonight, I'll get the real measurement then.

TitoJones
12-18-2006, 06:25 PM
Top secret info..

Tyler

aonghus
12-18-2006, 09:36 PM
Top secret info..

Tyler

This is where I wish i had a sound clip of 'i feel retarded' from tommy boy.

Damn True
12-19-2006, 07:34 AM
So are the calipers meant to bolt directly to those bosses (at 4.959" distant), or is there an intermediate bracket?

andrewb70
12-19-2006, 08:18 AM
So are the calipers meant to bolt directly to those bosses (at 4.959" distant), or is there an intermediate bracket?

If I am reading the print correctly, the 4.959" distance is the vertical rise between the mounting ears, not the center to center distance.

Andrew

Damn True
12-19-2006, 08:34 AM
I was wondering about that.

Marcus SC&C
12-19-2006, 08:36 AM
There`s a factory bracket that holds the calipers and bolts to the spindle bosses. GM#12455799 It needs bolts too,2 for each bracket. GM#14084051
I just measured an AFX spindle and a factory C5 caliper bracket with a digital calipers. I get about 5.05" center to center. Mark SC&C

Damn True
12-19-2006, 08:38 AM
There`s a factory bracket that holds the calipers and bolts to the spindle bosses. GM#12455799 It needs bolts too,2 for each bracket. GM#14084051 Mark SC&C



By chance do you have the center to center for the caliper mount holes on said bracket?

Rubes
12-19-2006, 08:48 AM
By chance do you have the center to center for the caliper mount holes on said bracket?

Math is your friend...but I cheated and used CAD. 5.035" is the center to center of the two mounting holes.
edit: the math works out too!!

Damn True
12-19-2006, 09:31 AM
That should be the true center to center of the mounting bosses on the spindle, correct?

I am looking for the measurement for the mounting holes on the bracket where they bolt to the caliper.

Thanks though.

Rubes
12-19-2006, 09:57 AM
ooops... :slap:Duh, I guess if I actually read your post, I would have known that. Sorry, dont have a bracket to measure. I actually thought the calipers mounted directly to the spindle.

and yes 5.035" is the center/center of the mounting bosses on the spindle.

I'll shutup now

Marcus SC&C
12-19-2006, 10:19 AM
My digital calipers aren`t big enough to measure the caliper pin spacing. My trusty tape measure and Mk1 eyeball put it at about 9.0312535814". :twothumbs Of course it looks like the ol Mk1 may need to be recalibrated by .020"? BTW the holes in the spindles (AFX and C5) are each about .019" oversized so you have a little room for error. Mark SC&C

Rubes
12-19-2006, 10:23 AM
...My trusty tape measure and Mk1 eyeball put it at about 9.0312535814". :twothumbs Of course it looks like the ol Mk1 may need to be recalibrated by .020"? ... Mark SC&C
:lmao:Thats a good one Mark!!

jfman
12-19-2006, 12:15 PM
Just curious.. Why do you need to know this measurement ? Are you trying to bolt aftermarket calipers not desinged for a c5 vette ?

IMO the beuty of these is that they accept c5-c6 compenents ! :D

Damn True
12-19-2006, 12:17 PM
Found a great deal on some calipers and want to find out if they will fit. If I can confirm they will work I will let everyone know what they are.

jfman
12-19-2006, 12:18 PM
Ok but do they have the right "backspacing" ? I mean they can bolt up but it doesnt mean that they will line up with the rotor perfectly..

Damn True
12-19-2006, 12:20 PM
That is what I am trying to determine.

Step # 1, will they bolt to the spindle?
Step # 2, do they have the appropriate offset?

One step at a time.

jfman
12-19-2006, 12:26 PM
That is what I am trying to determine.

Step # 1, will they bolt to the spindle?
Step # 2, do they have the appropriate offset?

One step at a time.

Also dont forget about the clearance for the diameter of the rotor.


Oh ! while I'm in this thread I might as well ask you guys with the same kit. I noticed that c5 Rotors have angled cooling fins. Which way are they supposed to be ?