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I have shaved the handles off of my 67 camaro and will soon be installing the poppers and solenoids and am in need of pulleys and suggestions of how and where to mount the solenoids I have yet to even started the install of the vpa kit from summit but from what I can tell I will have to use some sort of pulley and cable system to connect the solenoid to the latch. So if anyone has done this to a first gen I would like to hear your suggestions.
Also does anyone know of an online supply for these parts.
thanks
fred
Steve Firebird
06-17-2006, 04:41 PM
I have to do the same thing on my 68 Firebird. My old body shop pretty much had it set up I think. I will try to look it over next week and post what I see. I do not think he was using any pulleys. Some how he mouted the noid in line( behind) with the spot on the latch that the outside handel pushed to open the door and it was a staight pull to open the door. But I have found a lot of things he mesed up so that set up my be wrong as well.
rockdogz
06-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Just did this :jump:
What I did was to mount the solenoid vertically, just under the door latch. I put it down as far as I could, but not too far so that the solenoid contacts short out on the door...
I then ran the cable in some hard brake line and ran it up the door. It is curved at the top towards the latch and secured to the door via metal hold-downs. I drilled a hole in the latch at the top where the push button from the outside handle used to press and ran the cable to that.
This is working so far - note that I just did it so I only have only used it about 25 times so far. I also don't know how this will affect the attachment of the door panels, although they will be custom anyway but I may need to change out some bolts to slimmer heads.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need more info.
:twothumbs
Steve Firebird
06-18-2006, 08:48 AM
Just did this :jump:
What I did was to mount the solenoid vertically, just under the door latch. I put it down as far as I could, but not too far so that the solenoid contacts short out on the door...
I then ran the cable in some hard brake line and ran it up the door. It is curved at the top towards the latch and secured to the door via metal hold-downs. I drilled a hole in the latch at the top where the push button from the outside handle used to press and ran the cable to that.
This is working so far - note that I just did it so I only have only used it about 25 times so far. I also don't know how this will affect the attachment of the door panels, although they will be custom anyway but I may need to change out some bolts to slimmer heads.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need more info.
:twothumbs
Do you have any pics?
rockdogz
06-18-2006, 09:24 PM
Well, seeing as how everything is inside the door I guess this pic doesn't help too much. See the two bolts in the lower left of the door? That's the solenoid. Imagine the steel cable snaking upward inside a hard brake line, and that's how I mounted it.
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black67ls1
06-26-2006, 02:06 PM
Glad to see you got the solenoids to work. That's one of the last few things to do on my car. Let me know if your setup is reliable. I'm still thinking of using a push/pull cable. I'd like to mount the solenoid close to the hinged end of the door so the solenoid doesn't get slammed so hard everytime the door is closed.
So what's the deal with slack in the cable? Is there slack when the cable runs up to the thumb lever? I'm considering whether or not to use a metal lever to convert side-to-side motion to up-and-down. I was thinking I could put a rotary spring on this to pre-load the latch and take out some of the play. Don't know if this is necessary, or how pre-loading the thumb latch would affect the inside door lever.
Right now it seems that the inside handle moves >30 degrees before it even starts to open the door.
StuckInBaghdad
09-30-2006, 05:30 PM
I have had mine done for about six years, I mounted mine like rockdogz, and it works like that just fine. I would suggest getting a stronger silenoid than what is offered in the basic kit. After about a year or so, they started acting up, having to hit the button more than once and so on. The last time I was home, they would not open the doors at all! It may just be that the latches need to be lubed, but a stronger silenoid probably would have prevented this.
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