What is your cars weight ??

[69c4x11]

Just wondering what other cars on this site weigh ?? Mine weigh's in at 3240 with 5 gal of gas ,,,

[PeteRR]

3700 lbs. I still have a full interior + finished trunk and the car still has all of it's original factory steel. I have installed a bunch of aluminum components and removed the 85 lb, 5.5' heater box.

[chicane67]

Around 2800.........

[KAA]

3680 no driver. Needs to go on a diet.

[harshman]

Around 2800.........

Plik!!!:moon:

[andrewb70]

My RX7 is 2900, my GTO 3900.

Andrew

[chicane67]

Plik!!!:moon:

Aww.... come on. Tell me how you really feel Andy !! :rolleyes:

[alcino]

About 2900

[McssGmachine]

3240 without heater or AC and a half tank of gas.

Brian

[CarlC]

3375, full tank, no driver.

[ZZ430]

Just weighed the 67 Camaro convertible the other day.

3260 with 1/2 tank.

Martz subframe, coilovers, R&P, ZZ430, Richmond 6-speed, scattershield, Currie 12-bolt, composite rear springs, Wilwood front and rear, CE SFCs, aluminum driveshaft.

It always seems to be heavier than we think.

[CAMAROBOY69]

I had mine weighed about 2 years ago with the steel hood and it WAS around 3200. Now its probably a little heavier since I have the T56 tranny. I believe the 18" wheels and tires actually added more weight too compared to the 14" wheels and tires I used to have.

[1Fine69]

i think with the aluminum black and heads it might break the 3000 mark

[Steve Chryssos]

3150 lbs. All steel including the hood. Even has iron heads. The aftermarket front clip and R&P steering saves a good amount of weight but the roll cage adds weight back in. It does not have heat AC, door glass, insulation, back seat


I'm gonna weigh it again in Power Tour trim. That will add door glass, stereo and a little heat insulation to the floor. I also changed the fuel cell from a 16 gal aluminum unit to a 22 gal stainless tank. We shall see.

I HATE adding weight!!! :banghead:

[Steve68]

Just add more "horsepower".

[grand_marquis_gt]

Probably close to 4K#....

[Steve1968LS2]

3420 with the heavy ass big block and TH400 with gear vendors OD..

I am hoping to be close to 3000 when done even though I am adding a steel hood, a bit of dynamat and a bigger 20gal fuel tank..

[Steve Chryssos]

Just add more "horsepower".

There's Arnold Schwarzeneggar and then there's Bruce Lee. My money's on Bruce Lee any day. Bruce Lee can kick Ahnold's ass!

[Steve68]

I wasn't insinuating to put a fat hog iron headed big block in there!!!


Just some nice AFR's, maybe a little more cam, 400 shot, just a little something,

I agree better things in small packages, I was originally going with a BB 700r4,4:10's then I realized that I wanted it to handle like my BMW's lite, nimble, quick, big changes.......

[wendell]

steve1968LS2,
I'm interested to hear your plan for 3000lbs. That's pretty lite for a camaro. spill the beans.

[69c4x11]

You aren't kidding that's lite!! My 6.ol block and the t56 add some extra... I also have air& heat,all aluminum from top of firewall to tail, the c4 rear and front arms on the 2x4 frame {bare frame weighed 175# with no suspension attached... The 20's on back are like anchors...All body panels steel

[69c4x11]

You aren't kidding that's lite!! My 6.ol block and the t56 add some extra... I also have air& heat,all aluminum from top of firewall to tail, the c4 rear and front arms on the 2x4 frame {bare frame weighed 175# with no suspension attached... The 20's on back are like anchors...All body panels steelbut is this really a pro-touring car if it has 20's on the rear?????

[FScope]

I haven't weighed my car, but would like to. Based on the math formulas where you input 1/4 mile E/T or mph and rear wheel horsepower, my car is estimated to weigh around 3000 lbs w/o driver. This is a 68 Camaro convertible that's supposed to be heavier than a coupe. Now if the car acctually weighs more than that, I can stop wondering how the engine dyno'd at over 460 hp and only get 345 at the rear wheels on a chassis dyno. (I can then blame the chassis dyno)
I did take a lot of weight off the car. The corvette c4 rear took off at least 100 lbs off the rear, probably double that. The front has aluminum heads, manifold, water pump, calipers, hubs, rotor hats, and master cylinder. But I added weight with air condition, power windows, sound deadening, and subframe conectors.

[jeff s]

Cadillac Attack 3970
Street Alien Ultima GTR 2260
Y Gen 3rd Gen 3504
All with 1/2 tank of fuel or more

[DeepBlue68]

Where can you go to get your car weighed? I've thought about doing it before, but never looked into it.

[Steve1968LS2]

steve1968LS2,
I'm interested to hear your plan for 3000lbs. That's pretty lite for a camaro. spill the beans.

Not much to spill.. weighed 3400 with the big block,, TH400 and Gear vendors unit..

Going to a 420lb LS2 with a 110lb T56 will have a ton of weight off the car.

Remember that Penny has no AC, heat, wipers, back seat, leaf springs, power brakes, stereo, etc and I will be running a 21st Century Street Machines subframe with all aluminum C5 suspension parts. My wheels are not overly heavy either (Forgelines)..

I am pretty confident about 3100 lbs.. hoping for 3000 even though I will be adding some dynamat and a steel hood.

[Steve1968LS2]

but is this really a pro-touring car if it has 20's on the rear?????

let's not go there :)

[Dan Sherwood]

Steve,

My 69 "street car" with all the goodies, steel hood, rs equipment, and alot of dynamat and a sbc with alum heads weighs 3735lbs with the th350 and a gear vendors unit. I recently switched from 3.73 gears to 3.42's to make it a little more street friendly, but will still run right at 12.0 in the qtr with no nos.

My 67 with a bbc, roll bar, no rear seat, fg hood and now mostly a "race car" still weighs in at over 3500. I am pretty darn pleased with the way the gear vendor setup works on the 69, and on the longer tracks with the 3.73 gears in the 67, I'm running out of gear before I get down the straights. I'm wondering if you are going to be putting your gv setup on the auction block? I've already got a th400 behind the bbc and the gv would get me to the 165+mph down the straights to run with the viper in my group.

Let me know. Thx!

[wendell]

Steve,
is that car caged? Having spent ALL last night scaling a 68 , I have the feeling that folks are a little optimistic on their car's weight. That said, with out a cage you might be about there (3100ish).

[andrewb70]

Just add more "horsepower".

and bigger brakes....and bigger tires...and...and...and...

Building a car that is as light as possible should be everyones goal. I wish I had done that with the GTO, but it is what it is.

Andrew

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve,

My 69 "street car" with all the goodies, steel hood, rs equipment, and alot of dynamat and a sbc with alum heads weighs 3735lbs with the th350 and a gear vendors unit. I recently switched from 3.73 gears to 3.42's to make it a little more street friendly, but will still run right at 12.0 in the qtr with no nos.

My 67 with a bbc, roll bar, no rear seat, fg hood and now mostly a "race car" still weighs in at over 3500. I am pretty darn pleased with the way the gear vendor setup works on the 69, and on the longer tracks with the 3.73 gears in the 67, I'm running out of gear before I get down the straights. I'm wondering if you are going to be putting your gv setup on the auction block? I've already got a th400 behind the bbc and the gv would get me to the 165+mph down the straights to run with the viper in my group.

Let me know. Thx!

the motor, trans and GV unit was sold off long ago.. going into a pro street 55 Chevy I believe..

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve,
is that car caged? Having spent ALL last night scaling a 68 , I have the feeling that folks are a little optimistic on their car's weight. That said, with out a cage you might be about there (3100ish).

Yep.. not sure if it's chromo or regular steel.. Penny used to be a 9 second drag car so its a full cage.

The before weight I gave from Penny was from a scale so it's pretty accurate. I know the LS2 weighs a TON less than the dominator topped big block. I also know the T56 weighs less than the TH400 and GV unit..

Even if Im 3200 I will be happy.. that's not much more than a C6 weighs. Time will tell :)

[grand_marquis_gt]

Of course I want to make my car lighter.

But it ain't gonna happen really. So as long as it's under 4K, i'm happy :)

[Steve68]

I agree lighter, but I'm not going "fiberglass everything" lite and I will have creature comforts air, heat, stereo, wipers, but I won't be adding metal or anything outrageous "floor mounted gun safe" or 1" marine plywood center console with 4 layers of fiberglass.
Make mine with metal hood, insulation, bumpers, just like the factory,



Andrew, what would you have change when building the GTO, engine, trans, interior,???? gunsafe??

[4MuscleMachines]

69 RS, 3088lbs.

[andrewb70]

Andrew, what would you have change when building the GTO, engine, trans, interior,???? gunsafe??

Honestly I am not sure what I could have done at the time to make it lighter. If I was building it now, I think a all aluminum LSx engine would be an option. My trans is already light. Perhaps the AFX spindles. The car is just a tank no matter how you slice it. I feel like I am driving a semi truck after having driven the 3000 pounds RX7.

Andrew

[jeff s]

But I can attest your's is a fine handling tank Andrew.

[nitrorocket]

3700 without driver. Man you camaro guys have it made! If my car were that light, I would'nt always have to worry about more power!

[andrewb70]

But I can attest your's is a fine handling tank Andrew.

Thanks Jeff. She turned out pretty good....

Andrew

[Dan Sherwood]

As one of the "camaro guys" I'm not sure how some of these guys get the weight down either. Over 3900 lbs in the 69 with a 200lb driver and just 200lbs lighter in the stripped down 67 leaves me a long way from 3200lbs where I'd like to be.

I'm afraid I'm one who has suscribed to the "more power" thing to compensate for the added weight. I am tempted to swap out the 700+hp bbc in the 67 for the 575+hp sc from the 69 just to see the difference on the road course, but I'm afraid I'd miss the brutal tq at the dragstrip, although the sbc is no slouch there either.

[Steve68]

I understand the tank aspect, going from driving a M3/325is both not extremely powerful cars, but handle well, to driving the Nova which was set up pretty good, handling wise in 96' by the guy I got it from,

[Steve Chryssos]

As one of the "camaro guys" I'm not sure how some of these guys get the weight down either. Over 3900 lbs in the 69 with a 200lb driver and just 200lbs lighter in the stripped down 67 leaves me a long way from 3200lbs where I'd like to be.

It's a trade-off. The only way to get weight down a bunch is by ripping lots of stuff out. Like a chopper (a real chopper--not OCC). So you end up with "less" car. There are three categories: hard parts (chassis and drivetrain), body parts, and amenities. To get a super light car you have to address every category. I put a star next to the places where I saved weight.
HARD PARTS:
*Subframe
*Suspension parts
*Steering
*Wheels & Tires (yes tires-- 345's are heavy!)
-Aluminum engine castings
-driveshaft
-Rear axle (12 bolts are lighter than 9" rears)
*radiator (1" tube 2 row aluminum is the only way to go)
BODY PARTS:
-Hood and deck lid--That's it! Pretty much every other body part is stressed and should not be changed on a street driven unibody car.
*Fixed lexan rear quarter windows--An easy mod. Do you really care if they roll down? The factory seal pops right onto the edge of the lexan.
*I have also passed on door glass, which is real heavy--but that's extreme. I will put it back in for Power Tour and then probably yank it when I get home.
-Bumpers
*Trimmed front wheelhouses--doesn't save much so don't bother.
AMENITIES:
*Insulation & Sound Proofing
*AC
*Heat
-Stereo
*Seating
-Anything goes if you can do without. Though they were expensive, Ferrari F40's came with cheesy looking straps for raising and lowering the door glass.

Unfortunately, no single change will make your car light. So you gotta look at the whole list of options. From there, you make the call based on budget and preference. You can save money in some places apply the savings elsewhere. Like take, your AC and Dynamat money and step up to lighter, stronger but more expensive wheels. You also have to look at systems where weight will be added such as power adders, roll bars and other safety gear, computers, big brakes, etc.

It ain't easy. But it's a fun exercise when planning a project. I will pull more weight out of my car when I rebuild it in the fall.

[andrewb70]

What Steevo now needs is an LSx all aluminum engine and a manual transmission. :poke: :smoke: I bet that will save 200 pounds.

Andrew

[Steve68]

I wasn't going there, I was going to save face and let him have his auto,

What's wrong no one like my gun safe discripition,:(

Whats the weight diff in subframes?

Steevo- good break down in catagories, some I've done, will do, and won't,

[Steve1968LS2]

What Steevo now needs is an LSx all aluminum engine and a manual transmission. :poke: :smoke: I bet that will save 200 pounds.

Andrew

Steevo without a paddle shifted auto??? :slap:

The LSx is a great idea though.. come on Steevo.. do it.. do it..

[Steve Chryssos]

I will definitely go LS2 on the next rebuild. As for the manual, I really want one of those too!!!

You know--For the museum I'm starting. I'm gonna display it right in between the butterchurner and a typewriter.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[andrewb70]

I will definitely go LS2 on the next rebuild. As for the manual, I really want one of those too!!!

You know--For the museum I'm starting. I'm gonna display it right in between the butterchurner and a typewriter.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Make sure you mount it next to another dinasaur...a picture of me...:3gears:

Andrew

[slow4dr]

I was shooting for 2500 w/out me in it for my Nova. My father has a 62 w/a iron headed BB, straight axle(no fender wells), and it weighs 2850 with an all steel body, 10 point steel cage, and factory interior.

[CHILI442]

'68 442 convertible with A/C, Big block car with aluminum intake. Tremec TKO w/ Lakewood bellhousing. Power windows, steering, and brakes.

With a 1/4 tank of gas and a spare tire it weighs 3900 lbs (without me in it).

She's a heavy B*tch!

[steemin]

I will definitely go LS2 on the next rebuild. As for the manual, I really want one of those too!!!

You know--For the museum I'm starting. I'm gonna display it right in between the butterchurner and a typewriter.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I hear your good at churning butter:wedgie:
Scott

[69c4x11]

let's not go there :)If it's the G-force Cuda with 20's ,, Would it be a Pro-touring car ??What if you add 18's to the rear ?? Then what ?? I know you said let's not go there ,,,But it appears to me some on this site label your a PITA, if you question their status....?? I guess my resentment goes back to last year when I earned my PITA status on this site after 16 posts, about the cars of Scott Whidby, who is my friend,, his car had the {bling's},,he catches crap from some ,,yet the G-force cuda is the greatest thing since the first muscle car, [Who's your Daddy] in Popular Hot Rodding It must be a $$$$$$ thing and the staus about the flak you catch, if you break the norm... I have been to Allan Johnson's and watched the car in different stages of build,,it is one of the best built cars in the country, but it praised now ,where a year ago it probably would have caught more flak on this site for the blings... now some more,, Who has their cars insured ?? I do with Grundy,, My luck is, I'm on the road course,or drag strip and TKO my car,, is Grundy going to pay up ?? it clearly states in my policy NO !! I can't afford to rebuild my backyard car that took 17 months of every spare hour I had,, Now i don't have the luxury of the extra hrs.,, Tell me where to get insurance that will pay up on a race course ,, is it as afordable as Grundy $-490-70k ??? I'll take my chances on getting by Sreet -racing, which do you prefer ??? Which has the biggest rush ??? How many of these [high end ]Pro-touring cars are driven 200-1000 miles on trips or to race courses ??? Heck we can go on and on ,, Lets not go there !!!!:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

[andrewb70]

***Mod warning***

Don't let this thread go down the toilet gentlemen...

Andrew

[my72vette454]

My big block twin turbo vette weighs 3405 with a full tank and no driver, hmm feels lighter than that when the bost kicks in.

[Kenova]

My big block twin turbo vette weighs 3405 with a full tank and no driver, hmm feels lighter than that when the bost kicks in.:drive1:
I would guess it would!!
Ken