Schwartz Extreme Wagon

[1970cuda]

Many of you know that Jeff is building me a wagon. I chose Jeff because this is an off beat car and seemed to fit with what he builds. Here are a couple pictures of how it looked when it first showed up at his shop.
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[andrewb70]

More...More...More!

Andrew

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

Kris does it again

[Bill Howell]

You're such a tease!:slap:

[jeff s]

Here's a couple from last week.

[Pro-touring towncar]

Wow, looking great. I need to get a wagon.( it's like I don't have enough projects now)

Tim

[Radlark]

that is going to be one sharp looking wagon I can't wait to see the finished project! I also love that rendering of the wagon that kris did its something different

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

comments, suggestions, hate mail?

[Bill Howell]

Yeah, I hate it! I hate it isn't mine. Damn sweet ride. One day when I grow up, I want Jeff to build me one just like it.:kewlpics:

[69Nova]

Thats so sweet. What wheels are those?

[1970cuda]

haven't finalize brand of wheels yet but they will similar to ones shown. we will be running a 19x9 with 245/35/19 michelin ps2's in front and 335/30/20 in the rear(ps2 also). wanted to run larger in front to help with understeer but there isn't that much room with the air ride and such

[Bill Howell]

Forgelines, forgelines, forgelines...............................

This subliminal advertising message brought to you by me.

[Radlark]

Yeah, I hate it! I hate it isn't mine. Damn sweet ride. One day when I grow up, I want Jeff to build me one just like it.:kewlpics:


Yeah what he said!

[Kenova]

:jump: aaahhhh bummer.... I was expecting to see a Radio Flyer!:geek:
It's looking good. Wagons can be cool, two door wagons are cool, but a two door wagon that's been Schwartzed has to be the coolest.:twothumbs
Ken

[camaro608]

that is the sickest chevelle wagon ive ever seen!
post more pics (in the future)

[Blown353]

Looks cool... and as a potential customer I'd like to see as many frame/body fitment pictures as possible. I really want to see some detailed pics of one of those frames installed before I decide to order...

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Dang what a transformation!! Looking great! :cheers:

[syborg tt]

looks very nice. I have a friend that lives 10 minutes from his shop. Looks like i am going ot have to visit him and you wagon if you don't mind.

[1970cuda]

please do.
take as many pictures as you can and email them to me!!!!

[MrAngry]

I am TOTALLY diggin' the side exit exhaust!

[syborg tt]

please do.
take as many pictures as you can and email them to me!!!!

not a problem i will do my best to get out there in the next two weeks

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

no more comments, suggestions?

[syborg tt]

looks good

it's hard to tell from the picture but the airbag looks close to the spindle

[1970cuda]

it is a little tight be there is enought room through out full travel ect. (no rubbing or contact)

[nvawgn]

wagons hoooooooooooooooooooooooo....

[WS6]

I love wagons and I too love that side exhaust. That is going to be a sweet ride when completed.

What do you have planned for the powertrain?

[1970cuda]

6 speed with a ls motor either with a procharger or twin turbos. more hp than a wagon will ever need

[Van B]

Looking great. It has come a long way since Jeff did my minitub job last summer. Then it was just the raw shell. I am looking forward to seeing it as soon as Jeff calls me and tells me that my Kinesis wheels are in.

[jeff s]

There's a bit of clearancing to be done on the chassis yet for the bags, since it's made for std coilover shocks. And the Kinesis wheels are in process, should be pretty soon. The Royal Purple/V8TV 69 Camaro chassis should be assembled by then too.
thanks

[bret]

When is the target completion date for the wagon? This thing neds to be at our Street Challenge event in September. We did a 62 Buick Invicta wagon a couple of years ago that was just a friggin HOOT! It was all stock suspension and frame with airsprings, ShockWaves, and 4 wheel disc brakes. Steve Grissom piled 5 magazine guys in that thing and ran around Putnam Park road course all afternoon...they got out giggling like school girls. Open track day takes on a whole new dimension with 4 of your closest friends in the car. Think about the difference between going to the bar alone and going with 4 friends...bring on the party! Also, one can now have several more first hand witnesses to your driving skills :).

[Steve Chryssos]

There's a bit of clearancing to be done on the chassis yet for the bags, since it's made for std coilover shocks. And the Kinesis wheels are in process, should be pretty soon. The Royal Purple/V8TV 69 Camaro chassis should be assembled by then too.
thanks

Looks awesome. Tell us more about the frame install. Floorpan mods, body mounts, etc.

[jeff s]

Bret, You know I love track days and I'm sure 1970Cuda will too. Not sure if it'll be done by then, I may come to hang out anyway.
Stevo, No floorpan mods required, bolts to stock body mounts. The camaro unit bolts in as well. Fabrication of bumper mounts and a custom motormount is needed.
thanks

[1970cuda]

bret, thank you for the offer i would love to do that but i don't think that it would be done in time but who knows. I know that jeff could have it done by then but i don't think i could afford to pay him to get it done by then.

[Diognes56]

That is a sweet wagon :D .

David

[1970cuda]

jeff send me more photos so i can post them for your fans...lol

[1970cuda]

before jeff and sherman and associates(sheet metal) magic on a "rust and accident free body"

[1970cuda]

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this panel was not availible so it had to fabed by Jeff

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[Kenova]

Are those NOS panels, or repops? I can't imagine anyone reproducing panels for wagons.
Ken

[1970cuda]

the quarters are from Jason at Sherman and Associates www.shermanparts.com (http://www.shermanparts.com)
They are actually El Camino Quarters. Kevin Oeste told me about that little trick. The outer wheels houses are for standard chevelle that jeff and his crew had to modify to work. Jason has helped me so much in figuring out what will work and what might work with at little assistance.

[jeff s]

The drop down panel, 2 photos up, was not available and was fabricated by us.

[1970cuda]

jeff has had to fab a bunch of pieces for the wagon. i swear that his panels are better than the factory could ever do!!!!!
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[1970cuda]

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metal working magic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1970cuda]

rear panel

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during

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done

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[Siroadrnr]

rust free=no charge for the rust!!!

[syborg tt]

man that looks nice. I can't wait to see it in person

[1970cuda]

don't forget lots of pictures

[1970cuda]

335/ 30 /20's michelin ps2 rears
245/35/19's michelin ps2 fronts

[1970cuda]

kinesis or forgelines? please see tread in tires and wheels for pictures and make suggestions. thank you

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

making progress

[1970cuda]

more pics

[Bill Howell]

I can not believe you are letting Jeff and crew butcher that car like that. I think you should just sell it to me and let me "save" it, being the purist I am. lol
I am so jealous of you and that car. Mark my words, it will be a huge hit and Jeff will get some well deserved accolades when yall get finished with it. Now, order the Forgelines and let's see them mocked up.:kewlpics:

[1970cuda]

bill, I really appreciate your comments. Jeff's pictures and comments like yours and others on the board really help to take some of the stress out of the build.

[Bill Howell]

Stress? What stress, remember you have joined the ranks of not even being a "car guy" since you are letting someone else build your cars now. :hammer:

There can not be any stress,now that you have "arrived" and pay for your builds. Shoot, I bet there is even a money tree in your back yard too.

J/K, I have been there/done that very recently, I feel your pain.

[1970cuda]

loving life

[1970cuda]

thank you steve for the half page hometown hotrodding article. you rock.......

[1970cuda]

coooooooollllllllll now if i could only post them. see them at
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/64wagon.htm

[1970cuda]

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[southernfriedcj]

That is one sweet build!

[jeff s]

I want brakes like that for my car!

[syborg tt]

looks awesome - just when i thought the 14" i had was big enough now there is a guy with 15's

[Steve1968LS2]

thank you steve for the half page hometown hotrodding article. you rock.......

Hey, I just print the cool the stuff people send me :)

Killer wagon, I'm a big fan of the project.

[Ricoch3T]

Yea very nice work, I love seeing something different!

[1970cuda]

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[Bill Howell]

Oops, wrong color primer. Gross mistake, go ahead and sell it to me now.:slap:

[1970cuda]

its a wagon... shouldn't it be green?

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[torval]

That is gonna be one SICK wagon!

[msra_chevelle]

Robyn --

How is the build coming? The wagon going to be finished for SEMA? If it's there, I'll make the trip from Minnesota just to see it.

Steve
NewRarewagon.COM (http://newrarewagon.com)

[1970cuda]

nope, unfortunately is won't be but will be coming to a car show near you in the spring. i have had lots of parts delays but that is expected since nearly everything is one off

[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

i have had the wheels and tires on since early this year but the wife and i went and had another baby....that is why i am doing a wagon
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[1970cuda]

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[1970cuda]

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[dodge]

very cool looking car....well done

[LMDGUY]

lookin sweeet!

[Josh]

Way cool cruizer! Hey I need that old frame for my convertible!!

[1970cuda]

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[Supra510]

Wagon's rule ,sweet project.

[Project69]

And who said station wagons are out of style lol


and thanks...now i need to go find me a nice chevy wagon to work on haha

[frankenstang]

Man those front rotors are big! It's funny now 'cause the 13"s on my car look so small. The floor pans look great in person and should cloear the trans really well. I have to convince Jeff and Robin to go with an F1 Procharger now. The F2 would be too much for the street and a stick shift will kill cogged blower belts. Maybe a Schwartz twin setup would be good too.

[Young Gun]

cool...what color is it gonna be?

[1970cuda]

i am planning to go with a two tone silver combo but jeff is trying to talk me out of a two tone :seizure:

[curly]

The two tone in the original concept is awesome :twothumbs !

[1FstChevy]

Slick looking project! I'm sure I don't have to tell ya, but stick with it so we can see this puppy on the road!

[hoosiergta]

1970 cuda looks fantastic. Love wagons. I'm wanting a Roadmaster .
Jeff seeing the Cad in the background I was wondering what was wrong with the RSE champ comming in to IRP 05 power tour. You were keeping it going but I bet you were only getting 5 mpg.I love the car and felt for you . I broke down around lake of the Ozarks after the lunch break the previous year.

[hoosiergta]

Wow . When I posted I hadn't noticed 5 more pages of cool fab work .

[jeff s]

1970 cuda looks fantastic. Love wagons. I'm wanting a Roadmaster .
Jeff seeing the Cad in the background I was wondering what was wrong with the RSE champ comming in to IRP 05 power tour. You were keeping it going but I bet you were only getting 5 mpg.I love the car and felt for you . I broke down around lake of the Ozarks after the lunch break the previous year.
Broke a valve spring on the Cad b4 rolling into IRP. Wanted to tag along with Poison Dart we had built with Imagine, but took a couple days to get parts to fix the Cad, just went home. Cad's now in New Jersey with new owner.
Thanks

[hoosiergta]

Thanks I just figured it was something with the EFI .

[MarkM66]

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So this is the tunnel after it was raised 2"? Why is there only one weld line?

[Mr Nick]

Looks like the driver and pass side pans are both new, probably cut them 2" more then they needed to be at the trans tunnel...?

[jeff s]

Looks like the driver and pass side pans are both new, probably cut them 2" more then they needed to be at the trans tunnel...?
That's it, Good call!
Thanks

[jeff s]

Not sure if 70 Cuda has decided if it's gonna be Schwartz twin turbo or a big Pro-Charger.
I updated the site with more pics:
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/64wagon.htm

[796spdbu]

I dig wagons and this one is over the top.Great fab work.what kinda primer are they using.Is it an etch primer?

[1970cuda]

leaning toward turbos but we'll see

[jeff s]

I dig wagons and this one is over the top.Great fab work.what kinda primer are they using.Is it an etch primer?
Yes, etching primer.
Thanks

[Code Red]

thats the dogs ballox


(which means very nice)

[1970cuda]

thanks for the translation otherwise i would have thought that those were fighting words..lol

[jeff s]

This project is moving forward again after changing hands. The LSX block is being bored and honed for the 427 dry sump LS7 forged rotating assembly.

[4OfaKind]

This project is moving forward again after changing hands. The LSX block is being bored and honed for the 427 dry sump LS7 forged rotating assembly.

Changing hands? The original owner sold it?

Mal

[jeff s]

yes, that's correct

[msra_chevelle]

Any updates to this wagon? Sorry to see the car change hands. Hope to see progess and finished product.

[liquidh8]

I was loving this build, anyone know what happened to the wagon?

[66SuperSport]

Jeff has the car at Schwartz Performance. It ended up being an abandoned project and is for sale. Not sure how much, but this could still be a really cool car.

[ponjohn]

It ended up being an abandoned project

Does this happen a lot?

Awesome build!!