I am thinking of getting this LT4 vette.. what are your thoughts?

[Steve1968LS2]

I'm not super familiar with the LT4 but I have been looking for new play car that I can take to the track when the Camaro is down or when I just want to not care as much about track damage. 6-speeds are hard to find in C4's

Here is the car:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/ae36&.src=ph&.tok=phcUKlEBFSuUqsjz

What it has:

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1996 Chevrolet Corvette LT4 VIN 1G1YY2254T5107052
White with black/grey interior
Chrome GS wheels 17X9.5 & 17X11"
Nearly new Dunlop 315/35/17's in the rear
Targa top

Bose Gold Stereo AM/FM/Cass/CD (single)
Cruise Control, Climate Control (AC blows cold)
Standard (ie, not sport) dual power seats
Everything works.

114,400 mi. and counting. Daily driver, 26mi. fwy commute each way, I work swing shifts, NO stop and go traffic. Runs very strong.

Recent new parts-

Rear wheel bearings
Windshield
Radiator
Water pump
Opti-spark cap & rotor/wires/spark plugs
Cruise control servo
Walbro fuel pump
Hurst short throw shifter
VB&P Sport springs
VB&P sway bars w/urethane bushings(32mm front/26mm rear)
Bilstein sport shocks
Steel braided brake lines/Hawk pads/rear bias spring
Random technology high flow cats
Sylvania Silverstar headlights

Other parts on the car when I bought it (installed @ approx. 65K mi)

Walker DynoMax mufflers
New Opti-spark unit
160* thermostat
Coolant bypass kit
Granatelli high flow MAF
Vortex Ram air intake
Clutch

Misc.-

Breathless performance driving lights complete kit (mounts
in front license plate space) Not installed yet, see here:
http://www.breathlessperformance.com/products/255.asp

Wolf front end bra (installed once for 10 min.)
Indoor car cover
Weatherstripping is cracking, I have new replacements
(aftermarket) not installed.

Take off parts to go with the car (factory parts unless specified)-

Springs (soft ride suspension)
Sway bars
MAF
Air cleaner housing
Shifter
Headlights
KYB "white" shocks, installed for 5k mi.
Right side cat. converter (Left was thrown away-rattling)

Original Sawblade wheels 2- 17X8.5" and 2- 17X9.5"
with nearly new (4k mi) BFG TA KDW's mounted (see pictures)

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He is asking $14k but I think I can talk him down a bit.. thoughts on this deal? I could get an LT1 car a bit cheaper but I would think the LT4 would add a bit more value.

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[Bill Howell]

I think that is a bunch high myself. A lot of miles, not for the year, but alot nevertheless. Looks like a well kept car, just a load for a 10 year old vette. I would have issues at 10K much less 14K. I sold a similar 91, five years ago with 60k miles for 10 or 11. C4s were just one gen old at the time, now they are two. Don't let emotions muddy the water.
If it is truely just for playing and track days, why get such a nice one to beat on anyway.
Just my take.

[Van B]

For that kind of money you are not far from getting a C5. You should be able to get a high mileage 99 FRC for around $15 ish if you look hard enough. Of course I work in wholesale, but they are out there.

I would keep looking.

[Steve1968LS2]

I think that is a bunch high myself. A lot of miles, not for the year, but alot nevertheless. Looks like a well kept car, just a load for a 10 year old vette. I would have issues at 10K much less 14K. I sold a similar 91, five years ago with 60k miles for 10 or 11. C4s were just one gen old at the time, now they are two. Don't let emotions muddy the water.
If it is truely just for playing and track days, why get such a nice one to beat on anyway.
Just my take.

KBB is 13,760 in excellent shape.. remember, it's not easy finding and LT4 and a six-speed.. LOTS of automatics out there. Plus I thought the upgrades were good for what I wanted to do (even extra wheels for some R-Compounds).. I would like to find a nicer one cause I imagine I will drive it a alot as a daily.. Oh and a 91 is nothing like a 96 since the 91 had a TPI engine :)

But, you did give me somehting to think of.. Seriously though.. it's hard to find a six-speed LT1 UNDER 10k.. believe it or not..

Keep the advice coming.. it helps :revto9k:

[nancejd]

I think you should just get a new Z06 and call it a day!:3gears:

[Steve1968LS2]

I think you should just get a new Z06 and call it a day!:3gears:

:lol: I want to pay cash.. that aint gonna happen with a new or even used Z06.. besides it won't even get to live in the garage.. that space is all for Penny. I've been looking at C4's all week and haven't found a decent 6-speed under 10k.. crazy..

Anyone know the hp/tq rating of an LT4 compared to an LT1?

[USAZR1]

Nothing wrong with a 96 w/LT4,Steve. That's an excellent car that will run like a bat with a few mods. LT1's weren't available with the ZF 6spd in 96 so that's why you're having problems finding one.

I've owned an 85 w/4+3 & Z51, 93 40th Anniversary w/auto (wife's car),a seriously modded 90 ZR-1,and a Callaway Aerobody 91 ZR-1 (seriously modded,too and #19 of nineteen built). Have a soft spot for C4 Corvettes.

[[email protected]]

i've never been a fan of the c4's dash...BUT i would get a lt-5 power'd vette if i could find someone to remove my left nut and someone to accept it!

[Steve1968LS2]

Yea, the dash is a bit "knight rider'ish" but the car is fun as heck to dive. Used to drive a buddies when we would go auto-x.

C5's a cool but again the "cheap" ones are all automatics.. cheapest one I've found so far:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=198479047&dealer_id=72517&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=CHEV&distance=0&model=CORV&address=92807&certified=&advanced=&max_price=18000&bkms=1142868215063&min_price=500&end_year=2002&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1796

[rockdogz]

Yea, the dash is a bit "knight rider'ish" but the car is fun as heck to dive. Used to drive a buddies when we would go auto-x.

C5's a cool but again the "cheap" ones are all automatics.. cheapest one I've found so far:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=198479047&dealer_id=72517&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=CHEV&distance=0&model=CORV&address=92807&certified=&advanced=&max_price=18000&bkms=1142868215063&min_price=500&end_year=2002&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1796

Wow, and that one's a bit far away from you!!

[Steve1968LS2]

Wow, and that one's a bit far away from you!!

Yea, vettes in CA go for a premium since our weather is easier on cars.. lol

At first I wanted to spend just $10k.. then I moved up to $12k or so.. the right C5 would run me $17k.. it's easy to start with the "well, it's only xxx $$$ more.." way of thinking. I've always wanted a C4 just cause I love the outside styling and it would be a fun car to shoot around town in, the side benefit is that I would always have a track car even when my '68 is getting worked on.

Still looking for feedback on the LT4.. is it THAT much better than the LT1?

[TA219]

I have no 1st hand expierence but from what i have seen the LT4 hp wise is inline with a stock LS1 but according to this site they generally put down 300 to the rear wheels (my LT1 TA (auto w/ headers and bolt ons) put down 260)
http://www.grandsportregistry.com/faq.htm#6

If price makes the difference then you could buy a LT1 car and do a LT4 conversion for 2k
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?partnumber=pk12550630

[CAMAROBOY69]

Just spend a couple extra grand and get the C5. I think overall you will be much happier. I personally have never cared much for the C4 corvettes at all. The C4 design has never caught my attention at all. Just my polite opinion. :fart:
EDIT! oops I meant the C4 has never caught my attention.

[Damn True]

You might be able for similar money to find somones old spec miata. If all it's for is the track you'd be hard pressed to find a better car in which to hone your skills.

[Steve1968LS2]

You might be able for similar money to find somones old spec miata. If all it's for is the track you'd be hard pressed to find a better car in which to hone your skills.

Track and pleasure driving around town.. while I have always dug Miatas at the track I have seen TWO fatal accidents on the street involving Miata's.. One a decapitation when a SUV hit it head on and went over the hood. :barf:

So no Miatas on the street for me :)

As for the C4/C5 deal.. For the same money I can either get the highest mileage most beat C5 or a very clean C4.. While the LS1 is a better engine I think the LT1/4 would serve me well. And a C4 is on my "list" of cars to own on day. Later when the C7 comes out I will pick us a C5 for dirt cheap..

[Travis B]

A MIATA WTF? They might be good track cars but I would fell like a pretty big homo driving one....

[CAMAROBOY69]

A MIATA WTF? They might be good track cars but I would fell like a pretty big homo driving one....
:lol: :lol::lol::lol:

[Damn True]

A MIATA WTF? They might be good track cars but I would fell like a pretty big homo driving one....

If validation of your sexuality is dependant upon what you are driving.............

[MuscleRodz]

LT-4 is nothing but an LT-1 with a hopped up cam and bigger breathing heads for the most part. Good engine. The ZF-6 speed from the research I have done (since I bought 2 and sold 2 for the '68 Camaro) is not fond of missed power shifts. The trannies are cheaper to buy new than repair which is around 2 grand. For a driver, I have been told by all they are nicer than a T-56.

You could get a ZF tranny in a Corvette in '96. The last one I bought for the '68 Camaro was out of a '96. It is different than all the others and is also better than the earlier trannies. I bought a new bell housing and Centerforce Clutch off ebay and then turned around and sold the entire setup.

$14K may not be high for CA, but it is high for the midwest. Should be closer to $11K-$12K for a clean Vette. Personally, I have been in both and would much rather have an early C5.

Mike

[formula]

found this on the web, thought it might help ya...

http://www.grandsportregistry.com/lt1vslt4.htm

I, for one, like it a lot and would go for it if I could get the price down a bit....I love every even generation of corvettes. C1, C3, and C5 kick butt, but C2, C4, and C6 are my favorite

[Steve1968LS2]

LT-4 is nothing but an LT-1 with a hopped up cam and bigger breathing heads for the most part. Good engine. The ZF-6 speed from the research I have done (since I bought 2 and sold 2 for the '68 Camaro) is not fond of missed power shifts. The trannies are cheaper to buy new than repair which is around 2 grand. For a driver, I have been told by all they are nicer than a T-56.

You could get a ZF tranny in a Corvette in '96. The last one I bought for the '68 Camaro was out of a '96. It is different than all the others and is also better than the earlier trannies. I bought a new bell housing and Centerforce Clutch off ebay and then turned around and sold the entire setup.

$14K may not be high for CA, but it is high for the midwest. Should be closer to $11K-$12K for a clean Vette. Personally, I have been in both and would much rather have an early C5.

Mike

Yea, I wouldn't want to dump cash into an LT1 to upgrade it to an LT4 since you can get an LT4 for about $1000 more than an LT1 to begin with. For a '96 you have to get the LT4 to get the six speed. Personally I don't care if I get a '94 or '95 (second choice due to the better dash).. or even a '92 if the price was right.

I onlly thought this car was nice since it has a good load-out of aftermarket performance stuff and the extra set of wheels/tires was a bonus. The C5's in my budget range are either very far away or seem to be pretty beat (or worse, automatics).

Oh, and the car can't be black or polo green... lol too much work to keep maintained since it will live in the driveway

[Van B]

You might be able for similar money to find somones old spec miata. If all it's for is the track you'd be hard pressed to find a better car in which to hone your skills.

Great car to learn road racing in. It's all about keeping momentum.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Doesn't someone make a "cheap" LT1 to LT4 conversion? I thought I remember seeing something a while back, around $2k or so?

Personally, I'd skip the C4 and either go with a high mileage C5 or an LS1 F-body.

[Steve1968LS2]

Doesn't someone make a "cheap" LT1 to LT4 conversion? I thought I remember seeing something a while back, around $2k or so?

Personally, I'd skip the C4 and either go with a high mileage C5 or an LS1 F-body.

Lots of people toss out this option and make it sound so easy..

Ok.. find me a high mileage C5 down near $13k with a six-speed and not black..

Oh.. and not wrecked in some way.. lol. I personally love how the C4's look..:dunno:

[rocketman]

i had a new 96 gs vette,love'd it should have kept it.i would buy it

[trapin]

Well...you asked for opinions.

I personally don't care for C4's. For some reason they remind me of divorced "50 somethings" going through a mid life crisis.

But hey, if that's what cooks your sausage...have at it.

Throw on a mock turtle-neck sweater and tan sport coat, put a bottle of Old Spice in the glove compartment and your all set.







....just messin' (hee! hee! heeeeee!)

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Lots of people toss out this option and make it sound so easy..

Ok.. find me a high mileage C5 down near $13k with a six-speed and not black..

Oh.. and not wrecked in some way.. lol. I personally love how the C4's look..:dunno:

LOL, I'm not the best at finding cars--it took me 2 years to find a suitable '68 project and 5 months to find the 4th gen I wanted.

I was more hinting towards going with the 4th gen, then the C5. :camaro: We know you've got the LS1 love, don't regress... J/K.

[Steve1968LS2]

Well...you asked for opinions.

I personally don't care for C4's. For some reason they remind me of divorced "50 somethings" going through a mid life crisis.

But hey, if that's what cooks your sausage...have at it.

Throw on a mock turtle-neck sweater and tan sport coat, put a bottle of Old Spice in the glove compartment and your all set.

....just messin' (hee! hee! heeeeee!)

LOL.. and I want opinions.. it helps with the thought processes.. The interior of C4's always make me think of KITT from knight rider but I like the exterior.. sorta flat and wide.

I've always seen the C5's as looking more.. uhh.. phalic than the C4's lol

The '96 does come with a bottle of Old Spice in the glove box though.. hmmm

I'm just looking not to spend a fortune and have a car decent for street and fun for the track.. If I don't draw a line I will end up with a C6-Z06 parked in the drive..

[Steve1968LS2]

LOL, I'm not the best at finding cars--it took me 2 years to find a suitable '68 project and 5 months to find the 4th gen I wanted.

I was more hinting towards going with the 4th gen, then the C5. :camaro: We know you've got the LS1 love, don't regress... J/K.

That's the problem.. If I get an LS1 I will be tempted to mess with it.. first a small cam.. then some heads.. before long I have TWO project cars. I wouldn't have that temptation with an LT1/4

[Elusive R]

I've driven an Grand Sport Corvette (also had the LT4 and a 6-speed) that had been modified - headers, LT4 HOT cam, etc - and that was quite the car. If you have the cash and you want it, go get it. It'd be a blast. You can pick up the HOT cam cheap and give yourself an extra 40+ HP (not sure of the actual gain)...

[Ralph LoGrasso]

That's the problem.. If I get an LS1 I will be tempted to mess with it.. first a small cam.. then some heads.. before long I have TWO project cars. I wouldn't have that temptation with an LT1/4


True, so very true. It's too damn hard not to modify an LS1 car.

[Whistler]

Too bad this one's black....
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=198304831&dealer_id=57615424&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=CHEV&model=CORV&distance=300&address=32765&certified=&advanced=&bkms=1142885426923&max_price=100000&min_price=2&first_record=126&end_year=2000&start_year=1997&isp=y&pager.offset=125&lang=en&cardist=156

[Steve1968LS2]

Too bad this one's black....


Yea.. and too bad it's in Florida :hand:

[Whistler]

Florida?? .....so... just take a cab here and drive the car back.

[Steve1968LS2]

Florida?? .....so... just take a cab here and drive the car back.

Better yet.. you can drive it out here for me.. heck, I will even buy you tickets to DisneyLAND.. :Alchy:

[Damn True]

There's a load of vettes on S.F. Craigslist

[Steve1968LS2]

There's a load of vettes on S.F. Craigslist

Hey, you could even drive it down here for me :)

Either way you can lap whatever I get a few times at buttonwillow (nothing to hit there)..

I will check Craigslist for SF..

[Damn True]

I'd be happy to Steve. Lemme know if I can help.

This one looks alright
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/143555294.html

[Whistler]

I'll drive the Vette out to Cali, and drive a Prowler Orange Camaro back home! ;)

[Steve1968LS2]

I'd be happy to Steve. Lemme know if I can help.

This one looks alright
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/143555294.html

Yea, I saw that one... about 20k less miles than the one was considering but he is asking $750 more (i know that's negotiable) and it has a lot less "extras"..

The white car is in Tracy.. isn't that up your way?

[Damn True]

Yea, I saw that one... about 20k less miles than the one was considering but he is asking $750 more (i know that's negotiable) and it has a lot less "extras"..

The white car is in Tracy.. isn't that up your way?

Tracy is about 45min away.

[srh3trinity]

I'll back you up on the C4's (not that I have that much pro touring cred). I have always liked em. If you do get stuck with the auto, you could always put a shrifter on it to make it more fun.

[Steve1968LS2]

Hmm.. found a 95k mile polo-green '94 LT1 car local.. in decent shape and it comes with an extra set of track wheels, two sets of track r-compounds and Baer brakes.

Polo Green was a bit more high maintanace than I wanted but I know the car hasn't been to the track a ton.. It's Johnny's vette. lol

$10k.. or the white LT4 for $13k.. or this LT4 for $13k.. If I spend $3k less that's more to pump into my '68.. :think:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=191470061&dealer_id=57105297&car_year=1996&search_type=both&make=CHEV&transmission=Manual&distance=75&model=CORV&address=92807&make2=sel_one&certified=&advanced=y&max_mileage=&max_price=15000&bkms=1142897402597&min_price=1000&end_year=1996&color=&start_year=1994&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=72

[Bill Howell]

Now you are thinking. Why buy such a nice car to beat up on. Spend the extra 3K on parts you break later. lol

[BADVELLE]

:lol: I want to pay cash.. that aint gonna happen with a new or even used Z06.. besides it won't even get to live in the garage.. that space is all for Penny. I've been looking at C4's all week and haven't found a decent 6-speed under 10k.. crazy..

Anyone know the hp/tq rating of an LT4 compared to an LT1?

Steve -

The HP/TQ numbers will look something like this:

LT1
305hp/325 ft.-lbs.

LT4
330hp/340 ft.-lbs.

The LT4 is very similar to the '97 LS1, as far as power numbers are concerned.

[Steve1968LS2]

Now you are thinking. Why buy such a nice car to beat up on. Spend the extra 3K on parts you break later. lol

Because I don't like driving ghetto cars.. lol

Johnny's car is nice but the color is almost as bad as black to take care of.. However, it's in great mech shape and comes with a huge supply of track tires..

Decisions.. The red LT4 seems nice if I can get the price down. Red is not my first choice but it's not too bad to keep decent looking

[WS6]

ok ill chime in here considering this is what i work on all day and basically have taken on all C4s since no one else wants to work on them.

i love C4s. the 91s and up are my favorite. here is some break down that might or might not help you steve

90-96 have the upgraded dash(makes life much easier getting in an out) seats were not upgraded over the 85-89 cars. seats get upgraded in 94 and those are the best. exterior was changed in 91. LT1 came in 92. ZF 6 speed trans started in 89 and lasted til 96. great transmission too.

LT4s are that much better over the LT1. there is so much more to them than heads/cam/intake. they hold their value so much better due to their rarity and demand. also upgrading the LT1 is a risky option. see the weight of the waterpump drive gear on the cam causes the number one cam bearing to wear heavily. dropping in a new cam could cause a spun bearing. in stock form the LT4 is killer and would make an excellent track car. i have 148k on my LT1 WS6 formula. i have no issues really. an LT engine that is maintained will last a long time.

that white one is a good price. however that exhaust system i can almost garuntee is causing major resonation issues inside the car. you'll need to get a Corsa system to prevent that. sell the dynomax and buy the corsa. Add some Random Tech replacement cats and you've got a very good exhaust system considering your in Cali.

the C5 is a better car to live with, there is no denying that. to me though the C4 is a better sports car. i enjoy sitting in them so much more. get in and everything wraps around you.

some things you'll also need to consider. all LT4 cars should have 13in front disc brakes. if not adding them is done cheaply using factory parts.

your headlights arent so great. you can add H4 Ecode bulbs and housings without making wiring changes. you can even use 100/90w bulbs.

you can change to a single mass flywheel from an Fbody and free up horsepower.

the C4 will spank an Fbody at the track if the driver is capable of pushing each of them hard.

lowering the front is the biggest pain you will ever mess with. enjoy the factory ride height.

get an LT4 car if you can. it really is worth it and you will enjoy it if your looking for a sports car.

also get a solid top for any car you get. i would nto want a glass top in Cali. way too hot.

PM me if you want any more info.

[zbugger]

Get over it. Quit your bitching and just go get one. And I'm sitting here debating modifying my little Nissan Sentra to handle better. I know where the parts are to do it. I'm not doing engine work to it though. I'm gonna Keep It Simple. Stupid. Sorry. Had to do that.

[MuscleRodz]

I forgot one thing, the worst part about the LT-1/LT-4 is the location of the Opti-junk distributer. They corrected alot of the issues when they vented them in '94 or '95, but they are still mounted under the water pump. And when it leaks, it wreaks havoc on the distributor. There is a conversion to go to a LS1 type ignition, but it is pricey.

Mike

[BADVELLE]

I forgot one thing, the worst part about the LT-1/LT-4 is the location of the Opti-junk distributer. They corrected alot of the issues when they vented them in '94 or '95, but they are still mounted under the water pump. And when it leaks, it wreaks havoc on the distributor. There is a conversion to go to a LS1 type ignition, but it is pricey.

Mike

Don't they have a vacuum line hooked up to the distributor that keeps it moisture free, or attempts to?? This is what I thought they did with this type of setup.

[nancejd]

The line runs from the opti spark to the intake tube. It's better, but the opti sparks still go bad.

[WS6]

yes the optispark is the achilles heel of the LT engines. i would not be afraid of it though. it is rather easy to replace on the vettes, but it is buried underneather the waterpump.

[rob07002]

I've never been a big fan of the C4 styling, but it is a fun car, and your right about a 6 speed being harder to find.

I want to thank you for looking into my PHR delivery issue. You must carry alot of weight over at Primedia, cause after I pm'd you I got both issues like a day later, and a PHR sticker in a seperate envelope. My Dad always said it not what you know but who.... He's so right..

Anyway, thanks Steve, I hope you didn't come down on them too hard!

Congrats once more to Bill and Bob for their awsome covers in PHR, I can't wait to read more...

[jeff s]

The LT4 is a great engine. I had a yellow LT4 vette that I bought new and put 63,000 miles on. I even got to watch them build it at the plant. Although the rating was 330hp a GM Engineer insider told be it was underrated so as to not take away from the 345hp LS1 that was coming in 97. I ran the car at track days and at the drag strip regularly.
On a cool day I ran 12.36 @ 114 mph uncorrected on the 315 goodyear gsc's. I had a 52mm tb, a 3" exhaust, a K&N and an open air box cover.
That's it, even had the stock program in the ecu. Without the bolt on's it was high 12's at 110 all day any day. I crashed the Zr1 gathering at Bowling Green one year, opened a lot of eyes. They were low production about 5-6000 total.

[WS6]

hehe the LT4 Fbodies were very similar to the LT4 vettes in that they were underrated. take a stock LT4 fbody and tune it and youll have around 330 at the wheels. so much for 330 at the crank.

[Nine Ball]

Steve, I got to drive an LT4 96 Collectors Edition (my Dad's) quite a bit. It was bone stock and a 6-speed. The car put down 300 rwhp and ran 13.20s no problem. They are cool cars, but you will probably notice that the interiors on them suck badly. I love the C4 styling, but their interiors are worse than f-bodies. That car also made tons of rickety noises and squeaks, with only 60K miles on it. I can't imagine a 100K+ mile car being any better.

If you do get a C4, get the LT4 car.

But honestly, for the $14K budget you are shooting for, you could find a low mileage clean LS1 f-body. I only paid $13.5K for that hugger orange SS I had, and it only had 39K miles on it. I sold it for $17K a year later. Maybe look for a hardtop 1LE Camaro or Formula, or an SS with the Bilstein package.

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve, I got to drive an LT4 96 Collectors Edition (my Dad's) quite a bit. It was bone stock and a 6-speed. The car put down 300 rwhp and ran 13.20s no problem. They are cool cars, but you will probably notice that the interiors on them suck badly. I love the C4 styling, but their interiors are worse than f-bodies. That car also made tons of rickety noises and squeaks, with only 60K miles on it. I can't imagine a 100K+ mile car being any better.

If you do get a C4, get the LT4 car.

But honestly, for the $14K budget you are shooting for, you could find a low mileage clean LS1 f-body. I only paid $13.5K for that hugger orange SS I had, and it only had 39K miles on it. I sold it for $17K a year later. Maybe look for a hardtop 1LE Camaro or Formula, or an SS with the Bilstein package.

The problem is that I've done the f-body deal. This may sound goofy but after my 2000 SS I would not be happy in a stock 4th gen since I know how nice they can be with a little work. I KNOW I would start to mod it and if I didn't it would feel like I downgraded.

Besides a stock C4 would out handle a 4th gen on a road track. I saw a nice Hugger 99 for $13k that was tempting but not the way I want to go.

I'm gonna go check out the red LT4 on Friday.. I would prefer silver but red isn't so bad and it's been a LONG time since I've owned a red car. I still like the white one due to the extra parts with the car but I think his price is a bit too high. The red car should be right around $11k. Every $ I save on the vette mean more $$$ for Penny :)

[jeff s]

A lot of the squeaking comes from the removable targa top.
Make sure the bolts are tight and keep some silicone on the rubber weather strip. The LT4 is a bunch faster than a LT1 and will hold value better. MSD has a replacement for the Optispark dist.

[zbugger]

Did you get it yet? Why not just fix up a Civic? You'd get great gas mileage, and a car with street cred when you put wheels and a phat wing on the back.

[Steve1968LS2]

Did you get it yet? Why not just fix up a Civic? You'd get great gas mileage, and a car with street cred when you put wheels and a phat wing on the back.

Yep.. when I got there it was even better than I thought.. he said it was a rare one-off Corvette LTeleventybillion :woot:

Can't wait to bring it to the track..

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[Ralph LoGrasso]

Classic.

[Roger Poirier]

Get over it. Quit your bitching and just go get one. to it though.

I don't know what world you live in? However, my math goes like this.

Penny purcahse $$$$, Penny updates $$$$, Living in CA $$$$, Work for PHR $. Add/Subtract = ($$$$$$$) negitive dollars. :hmm:

R.P.

[Steve1968LS2]

I don't know what world you live in? However, my math goes like this.

Penny purcahse $$$$, Penny updates $$$$, Living in CA $$$$, Work for PHR $. Add/Subtract = ($$$$$$$) negitive dollars. :hmm:

R.P.

In reality it's more like:

Penny purchase -$$$, Penny updates -$$, Living in CA -$$$$, Sucessful wife $$$$, PHR pay $$$, smart investing $$$ = $ (money left over for a large latte.. lol)

Supposed to check out the red car on Friday.. I am trying to get motivated to drive the 300+ miles to see the white car.

I still like the one I posted a few posts ago.. :)

[USAZR1]

I am trying to get motivated to drive the 300+ miles to see the white car.
I still like the one I posted a few posts ago.. :)

Buy the white C4 if it checks out,Steve. A little money saved won't matter much if you don't get the car you really want.

[PSV]

I was looking at the classifieds in Albuquerque, NM and saw and ad for a 96 lt4 one owner 53,000 miles for 16,000 OBO. I can get you a number if your interested.

[1 BAD BIRD]

Not to steal your post Steve. I emailed you last week and just wanted to make sure you got it? my email is [email protected]. I wanted your opinion on something.

thanks and sorry for stealin the thread.

Bob s.
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[Steve1968LS2]

Not to steal your post Steve. I emailed you last week and just wanted to make sure you got it? my email is [email protected]. I wanted your opinion on something.

thanks and sorry for stealin the thread.

Bob s.
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my home email has been all screwy.. email me at my work email steven.rupp @ primedia DOT com

Thanks~

[MrQuick]

Sorry, that blue one sold Sat night....guy flew in from Colorado... I know of a private party selling a 93??

[Steve1968LS2]

Sorry, that blue one sold Sat night....guy flew in from Colorado... I know of a private party selling a 93??

Well, I talked myself into a C5.. I have a NICE one in your area.. just a hair north of San Fran.. :)

I will call ya to get your opinion.. the high miles one was a bit ragged, even for the cheap price.

[MrQuick]

Cool, shoot me a link when you can... wait, my hair or your hair? LOL