kris horton .. ?

[muthstryker]

well i emailed kris horton about doing some renderings for me, but he never responed, dont know if he dindt responed cuz im 16 and doesnt think i have the money...well i do. well anyways if you guys can get a hold of him let me know.

[flyinlow89]

I emailed him a while back too. gotta be atleast a month ago. no response.

[muthstryker]

hmm i know the first time he said he was like 2-3 weeks out then i emailed him when i was gonna trade my GTO for a camaro and thats when he dindt respond

[67SSDan]

I've emailed him as well... no dice.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I have him pretty bust on a few projects, and I know some other projects are there, on top of a full time job. I will let him know he has some email to deal with. I think he really has work coming at him from all directions right now.

[1970cuda]

it is my fault. no really i have him jumping through a bunch of hoops to help me get a rendering done for a magazine. last email i got from him was at 4:19 this morning and he was going to take a "nap" before heading of to work. sorry to all but he is still barely alive and kicking.

[BMF Machine]

I also herd, that Kris is very busy. I too have my own shop and I work 50 plus at someone elses shop and I have a family as well? It is hard to keep everybody happy. Please don't hate on Kris, just hope he gets enough work to quit his dayjob; then all will be happy! Kevin

[Steve1968LS2]

I also herd, that Kris is very busy. I too have my own shop and I work 50 plus at someone elses shop and I have a family as well? It is hard to keep everybody happy. Please don't hate on Kris, just hope he gets enough work to quit his dayjob; then all will be happy! Kevin

I think people forget two things about guys like Kris or John McBride.. they both have very busy day jobs and the rendering thing is all done on thier off time.

Second is that it takes a LOT of time to do a rendering or drawing. Picture getting off work at 5pm then working on side jobs till very late then hitting the sack and starting all over the next day.

I don't think Kris is intentionally blowing anyone off. He is just one busy mofo.. lol

[CAMAROBOY69]

I bet 90% of the members on this board are lucky if they get 4 or 5 hours of sleep any night of the weeek. I only own a very tiny business and I average between 5-6 hours of sleep a night between working 50 hours a week at a full time job, side jobs for small business, working on cars, and spending time with GF. Sunday I usually try to sleep for at least 8 hours if I am lucky.
Point is, I cant even imagine how busy members like Kris Horton and Andrew McBride are. It is very hard keeping up on phone calls, e-mails, and the jobs themselves. On top of working 50+hours a week at a full time job. I feel at least a little of their pain. See what going to this site does to us. :poke: :)

[1970cuda]

he is also moving
"Sorry for not getting this to you sooner, I was busy last night checking out a new place for me over in Pomona. I'm finally gonna have a garage to park the Mustang in!"

received this morning along with some really nice attachments

[KrisHorton]

I don't think Kris is intentionally blowing anyone off. He is just one busy mofo.. lol

Steve and Adam nailed it. I'm a busy guy, but I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't enjoy it!

I average 4 hours of sleep a night, sometimes more if I fall asleep at the computer. I work the 9-6 at Jada, which is a lot of fun and then in the evenings I'll come home, catch up on phonecalls and as many e-mails as I can, then I'll get to work for a bit, throw dinner in the microwave and watch a bit of TV, and then hit it hard again until about 2-3a.m., sometimes later, as Robyn pointed out.

I got myself a Black Berry so I can keep up with e-mails when I'm out or on "vacation" visiting my folks or with my girlfriend.

Lately I've been managing my freelance business better and planning projects better, so things have been looking up lately and time doesn't seem to slip away from me as fast.

I am moving in mid-April, so I'm stoked about that. I've found a reasonably priced place in a nice area and best of all, it's got a garage!

Anyway, I'm definitely not ignoring anyone, so if you haven't heard back from me, don't hesitate to send over those e-mails again. I bought a new computer a few weeks ago too, so that messed things up a bit too at first! If all else fails, you can reach me on my cell any time of day (or night.) My number's posted over on my website.

Kris

[Hot Rod]

Just think of all the BIG MONEY your making now!! HUH!!

You know how it goes the more you make the less you seam to have.

Keep up the good work Kris.

[flyinlow89]

Thats awesome youre working for Jada (Jada Toys I assume)
Hopefully you have some pull and can persuade them to keep pumping products out from the Big Time Muscle line!

[muthstryker]

if he works for jada toys tell them to make a damn 67 GTO :D

[elitexp]

Kris Horton will make you all the promises in the world, cash your check and then jack you around over and over again.

[Texas Bob]

Kris Horton will make you all the promises in the world, cash your check and then jack you around over and over again.

Ouch! Kind of a low blow without explaining.

[shmoov69]

Nevermind, I just read your other post.

[autoartist]

This is what I luv. A huge demand and short supply. Time for you to find another artist....hee hee.

John and Kris are but two guys. Think of all the mail they get. Folks need to find other artists to do work. Hey I know one, oops but I am busy too w/ current projects. :)

[1970cuda]

i will defend him up and down. he has always gotten anything i need done and some even with my crazy magazine deadlines. as with all great things sometimes we have to wait a little. he will come through for everyone.

[StRacerDuke]

Kris,

I know you're young and just starting out but please take some time to think about this. You have a huge niche market, you're one of the few people who do amazing digital renderings, and you have business falling out your ears.

It's time for you to raise your prices 'again'. I would suggest looking at it like a business, and start to build it as such instead of treating it as a consistent side job process. You will be able to manage your clients experience better and grow into a full time business. You can even have some of your shop owners sign a minimum X number of projects per year and they would become your A clients.

It's all about managing expectations and your time. I would think one of your goals would be to get to a financial situation where you are able to hire and train another worker or two so you can start delegating the job tasks. Even if it takes some time to train them it will be worth it. Then and only then will you become a business and truly be able to focus your time on growth.

Just me 2 cents as usual.

PS - Don't burn yourself out either!

[KrisHorton]

Kris Horton will make you all the promises in the world, cash your check and then jack you around over and over again.

Brent,

Pretty harsh statement. See my reply in your thread. I'll just reiterate, I don't have a cent of your money in my bank account.

St.RacerDuke,

Thanks for the reply. Last time I replied to this thread was in March. I've made some more changes since then. Prices are still the same pretty much. I'm still trying to be priced competitively and priced low enough as to not alienate anyone. I have been consistently working with shops on multiple projects but I do still take on projects from individual customers as well. Not to mention I'm still working steadily at my day job 40+ hours a week. I try not to get burnt out and keep everyone happy, but it's a balancing act for sure.

Kris

[ProdigyCustoms]

I suspect Kris will soon become more selective about projects, I also suggest he raise his prices (except to me of coarse) which will thin the work load. It would not surprise me at all to see him picking and choosing doing most of his work only for builders or really interesting high profile projects.

Sounds like this guys money was funny. I did not think Kris was a take the money and run kinda guy.

[hdesign]

I find it hard to believe that the world class artists/designers that are members of this forum would knowingly deceive anyone. In my brief communications with many of them, I came away saying, "that guy is a class act". Especially knowing that I'm the new kid on the block in this industry and I need to prove myself. We are all busy guys and we are overwhelmingly appreciative of your loyalty, support and refences. The last thing we want to do is let any of you down. I catch hell from my wife for not coming to bed for days on end to meet deadlines, I'm an insomniac. Bad press spreads like wildfire on communities like this. It's the same as builders. Kris' situtation seems to be more of a communication issue, common in any personal and professional relationship. I don't know the details of what happened but I hope all parties involved can come to an agreement with no hard feelings.

In the grand scheme of things, many of us try to price ourselves so that it is worth it to invest in our services first to avoid costly mistakes in mods and paint choices, two primary elements of a sucessful and eye-catching project. Some could make the arguement that we are competing for your business, but that's not really the case. There is so much work available in addition to this great pro-touring community and so many preferences of style that it's not exactly cutthroat. I've actually handed off a couple clients to other designers that I felt could fit the style they were going for better than myeself. Others have done the same for me.

Cmon guys....cars are supposed to be fun, even if they are business!

[KrisHorton]

Well said Ben. Same goes for just about every artist I've met in the past. We're all pretty down to earth I think.:cheers: