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dqhemi
03-07-2006, 09:09 PM
Thought you guys might enjoy seeing this - pic below

We're working on a kit for the B and E bodies to run a 6-speed T-56 with the 5.7 or 6.1 HEMI in the Mopar B or E body cars. The one in the picture is a Viper spec T56 - with some internal upgrades.

Bellhousing shown will bolt right up to a 5.7 or 6.1 HEMI. This sucker requires re-working the trans tunnel a bit, but a 6 speed Mopar should be awesome and this trans can handle whatever is thrown at it - really big horsepower. 5th and 6th are both overdirve ratios, which allows you to run alot of gear out back. We'll be running 3.91's as a standard setup.

Still some more work to do on it, but this trans will be going on our first build, which will be done in late April.

Not sure if you guys have been keeping up with the Dream Car Garage shows, but this weeks should be one of the most interesting. They will be showing (and explaining) four post suspension testing, the torsion tests and also CMM work we had to do with a Faro Arm to develop CAD models of the stock suspension.

First airing is 7:00 PM tommorrow (Wed.) night and then it runs three more times (7AM Thu, 9:30 AM Sat, 10PM Sun and 3AM sun). This particular episode should be very interesting if your into suspension development.

Enjoy

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
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70GTZ28
03-08-2006, 01:53 AM
Who did the Shifter Handle and knob? I need one of those for mine. BTW, it looks awsome. I have a GM/Viper T-56 in my 70 Z-28. I love it!

dqhemi
03-08-2006, 11:22 AM
The handle is a standard Hurst piece that would have come on an E body with pistol grip. The grip is a custom wood one in walnut I believe. The adapter to make it work is ours.

John Buscema
Xv Motorsports
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70RT/SE
03-08-2006, 05:20 PM
Are you going to get rid of the torsion bars? All the e bodies that I have seen with that tranny have some sort of coil over set up front.

Do you have any more info on your 3 link set up? price? what type of mods to the car would have to be done?

dqhemi
03-08-2006, 08:10 PM
Are you going to get rid of the torsion bars? All the e bodies that I have seen with that tranny have some sort of coil over set up front.

Do you have any more info on your 3 link set up? price? what type of mods to the car would have to be done?

We're doing two different suspension systems. Level I is an optimized stock type suspension for people who want to keep their car looking stock, but offers all matched components that have been fully tested.

Level II eliminates the torsion bars and leaf springs and is a total redesign with optimized geometry - basically a full tilt road race package.

Three link rear suspension has aluminum upper and lower rear links, aluminum panhard bar and aluminum bodied coil over shocks. Upper link is adjustable so you can adjust the pinion angle.

Just yesterday the lower links were being machined on a CNC machine out of billet. I should have pics of those in a couple of days and will post here if you like - I haven't seen them yet but am told they look awesome. One of the benefits of doing the suspension all in aluminum is it can be polished if you want looks as well as performance. We will offer it in natural, polished and powdercoated.

Pricing is about three weeks off on the whole Level II suspesnion. We will be offering it with at least two different shocks at different price points. Top one will be rebuildable, revalvable double adjustable, about as good as they get. They can be had with a remote reservoir as an upgrade again, if you are planning on serious track duty.

Check out the show I mention above and you will get a real good handle on what we are doing. The episode this week is the third of 13 episodes. They are following the entire development process of the cars and will be showing each step in the process. This week is heavy on suspension and technology used. Larry Holt also mentions some of the race teams that use literally the same four post test rig we have run these old Mopars on - Neuman Hoss and Andretti Green, Series champion in CHAMP for past two years and series champion in IRL last season, respectively. They also use the same technology for some F1 teams, but he's not allowed to say who. He also didn't mention that his own team won the GrandAm series last year with the FR500C Mustang that they built.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com (http://www.xvmotorsports.com)

jeff s
03-08-2006, 08:29 PM
The Willys at Autorama had a 6 speed viper trans hooked to a 5.7 hemi.

70RT/SE
03-09-2006, 04:22 PM
I have been watching the show. I think it is great that someone is doing this level of R&D for old Mopars. I hope the parts you are developing are affordable for the average gearhead. I would like to try them out.

The only problem I see with this is ....there are too many collectors and not enough gearheads in the Mopar world. Most of them have a problem when you put aftermarket wheels on your car.

Mean 69
03-09-2006, 05:24 PM
Most of them have a problem when you put aftermarket wheels on your car.

Most, perhaps, but not all. We have been getting lots of calls for our rear suspension kits from the Mopar gang, you'd be surprised how many want to modify the cars. I was!

I saw the show too, really nice stuff you guys have going on there. And to think the Multimatic guys are only thought of as Ford dudes. Sean's booth was about four down from us at SEMA, I never had enough time to say hello to him, wish I would have.

Mark

Bigblue73
03-09-2006, 06:42 PM
There are more people than you know that are "modifying" mopars. I spoke with John on the phone, I feel that we can build cars that will perform as well as or if not better than the Camaro's. (Think that will get a rise out of some of them!) I'll buy his stuff as soon as the pricing is sorted out.

dqhemi
03-09-2006, 07:51 PM
I have been watching the show. I think it is great that someone is doing this level of R&D for old Mopars. I hope the parts you are developing are affordable for the average gearhead. I would like to try them out.

The only problem I see with this is ....there are too many collectors and not enough gearheads in the Mopar world. Most of them have a problem when you put aftermarket wheels on your car.

We think there are plenty of people, including collectors, that want something more. The old cars were awesome in there day and I still love them. But alot has changed in the almost 40 years that have gone by. The cars just don't handle very well in stock trim and are really only fun to drive for short periods of time. I have a 70 Hemi Charger w/ AM and 8-track - if I put a better stereo in it, it would hurt the value, so I can only listen to the Joan Bayez tape the car came with.

The big dollar collectible cars are double edged. They are really cool, but you can't change anything. The eye appeal of the classics is real high, I don't think any of the modern cars get the kind of attention these cars do. So I really think there will be many people who want the classic looks, but with all the modern conveniences and some serious performance and modern reliability as well.

The TV coverage is definitely a good thing and they are doing a real good job of covering what we are doing. I think when we unveil the first production car it will really get people's attention. That one will look much like a 70 Challenger T/A. I have an original survivor T/A that we will track test against the new one, which will all get filmed for the TV show. The plan is to do this at an open track event with a lot of high dollar imports - ideally German and Italian....

If all goes as planned there should be some very interesting visuals of a classic looking muscle car eating up some big dollar european performance vehicles on a road course - on the straits and through the turns. Should make for some good TV and get some attention real quick.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
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70RT/SE
03-09-2006, 07:58 PM
There are more people than you know that are "modifying" mopars. I spoke with John on the phone, I feel that we can build cars that will perform as well as or if not better than the Camaro's. (Think that will get a rise out of some of them!) I'll buy his stuff as soon as the pricing is sorted out.

I hope you guys are right. It would be nice to see something different than over restored and clones cars. Ever go to Carlisle?.... all the cars look the same ...just different colors.

dqhemi
03-09-2006, 08:29 PM
Most, perhaps, but not all. We have been getting lots of calls for our rear suspension kits from the Mopar gang, you'd be surprised how many want to modify the cars. I was!

I saw the show too, really nice stuff you guys have going on there. And to think the Multimatic guys are only thought of as Ford dudes. Sean's booth was about four down from us at SEMA, I never had enough time to say hello to him, wish I would have.

Mark

Multimatic do amazing stuff. Where that was filmed is their engineering facility. When you walk in they don't allow any cameras as they do alot of projects for the auto manufacturers - we had to get special permission for the filming and pictures and only in the area work was being done on our cars. They have done development work on many high profile production cars under a number of manufacturers - don't think I can disclose those.

Their facility is pretty amazing. They have an autoclave on site for composite work they do. They did a feasibility study for one of the OE's making a copy of an entire unibody assembly of a current production car entirely in carbon fiber. It's on display in their facility.

The absolute coolest thing though is their 'library'. It is really big locked room in the middle of this huge facility. You go in and they have racks and racks of components from projects they have done over the years. Some of it is mounted on boards you can flip through. They brought us in there to show us how they executed things on other projects that might be applied for what we were planning on doing.

They are a very impressive group. Our project is definitely not what they are usually doing. They did think the whole project was really cool and the first time we brought a bunch of these cars to their facility they were really a hit there. We'll be running their shocks exclusively on our cars and offer them with our kits along with a more budget oriented shock.

I've known Sean for alot of years from back when I was racing. He did all my engines and a bunch of other stuff on my car and its development. When I knew exactly what I wanted to do with the Mopars, he was the first person I called because I knew he could help me make it all a reality. Sean actually showed me your IRS setup at SEMA.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com (http://www.xvmotorsports.com)

dqhemi
03-09-2006, 08:35 PM
I hope you guys are right. It would be nice to see something different than over restored and clones cars. Ever go to Carlisle?.... all the cars look the same ...just different colors.

The weekend the Carlyle Mopar show is at - we'll be at the Goodguys show in Columbus with a couple of cars and motors on display. We think that is a better venue for what we are doing.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com (http://www.xvmotorsports.com)