M.a.d. Full Power New System

[toofun]

OK, I have to say that I am lost when it comes to electrical things but I had a big problem with voltage drop in my car this past summer... I have an electric fan,aftermarket stereo system,msd 6al box and plan on adding maybe an electric water pump and some other goodies. I will be changing to a more powerful alternator but came across this total system from M.A.D. ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. It is called their Full Power system that comes complete with everything you need to make your electrical system a hell of alot better!!

Has anyone used this system? How easy is it to follow for the novice electrical guy? Is it a night and day improvement?? I dont mind spending the money especially if it is gonna help my electrical system. Here is the link to the system with a diagram as well. Thanks in Advance!!

Mark

http://www.madelectrical.com/newstuff/

[yellowrallys]

I have used some of Mark's stuff and read all of his mat'l. I don't think he has an entire wiring harness like Painless or EZ but he does have relay kits, starter kits, etc. He has a neat tech booklet and is good to talk to about any wiring problems on the phone.

[Beegs]

I remember reading about Mark's stuff at camaros.net

[John McIntire]

Mark is an excellent source for anything electrical. I have talked to him on the phone on numerous occasions, for great lengths. He has great knowledge of our cars and their electrical systems. I am running his "bright eyes" kit for the headlights, and his one wire conversion for the alternator, and also his remote mount solenoid kit for the starter. I've also bought relay kits from him, for things like my cooling fans and fuel pump.
He has a pretty complete book that even has some diagrams in there to help you. He's even helped me wire in a fuel cut off based off of oil pressure, in the event the engine should stall.
I highly recommend him!!!!!!! Great down to earth guy that is easy to talk to!
John

[squid]

I've used both the NEW System and the trunk mount battery kit. Mark answers the phone if you call. He's invaluble and should be added to a Hall of Fame. I am very much a rookie/novice. I look forward to electrical problems since talking to him and, of course, haven't had any after using his products and advice. I solder everything now, and it's the best upgrade I have done to my car.

[rocketrod]

I installed the same kit with the remote trunk and solenoid kits. I would highly recommend them especially for the novice. The instructions and diagrams alone are worth the money, plus Mark is extremely helpful and will answer any questions you may have.

I noticed quite a bit of difference with the headlight, but the nice thing is I have an intimate knowledge of the wiring on the car now and I was able to clean up/hide the rats nest the previous owner created. In addition, with the addition a several distribution blocks makes tapping into power a breeze with out running wire back to the fuse block, etc.

As for as your being a novice....If you order the kit take the time to read all the instructions thoughly and make sure you understand them before starting. Also decide where you want to mount you distribution blocks and relays before starting. Once you start work on one circuit at a time and it will go pretty smoothly.

[Todds69]

I just ordered his kit earlier this week. Electric isn't my game either, I spoke with Mark on the phone for at least 30 minutes, not just about electric but car shows a cars in general. Very knowledgeble and personable guy. :twothumbs

[HLSASS]

I just redid my 67 camaro wiring completely. Never have done it before. I used AAW classic update kit mixed with MAD's ideas. REally liked the outcome. The classic update kit is really slick. Also did Marks' trunk relocation kit. He is very helpful (when the line is not busy) and AAW was also extremely helpful. I noticed that all the major wiring companies are now coming out with kits similar to Marks, including AAW.

[HzEmall]

Not to take anything away from MAD but you can achieve the same results for less money.

Old cars are not designed to run all the modern accessories we use these days not to mention most of the wire is 30+ years old. The one major thing that people do not do when adding items to their car is take the time to make sure that their power and ground wires that run the electrical system are upgraded and or replaced. The stock fuse box and stock wiring is designed to only handle the needs that the car was built with. I always recommend you replace the bulk of your electrical system when you are going to add alot of new items to the car. If you choose to not do this make sure that you do what is called the "Big 3"

The "Big 3" upgrades consists of

1. Power wire from the alternator to the battery.
2. Power wire from the battery to your fuse box and or additional fuse block.
3. Upgrade your main grounds and add a few. (The ground from the battery to the body is crucial to the car running right but the ones that are usually over looked are the alternator, starter and engine grounds)

A typical ground upgrade in our shop is ground the starter to the block, then from that point to the alternator then from the alternator to the frame, then from the frame to the battery, then the battery to the actual body. Is this overkill ? Sometimes but when you build the cars that we build and the cars with stereo's we build it doesn't hurt to overkill things. This way everything on the car is properly grounded and not overlooked.

A typical power upgrade for us is power from the starter to the battery, from the alternator to the battery and from the battery to the stock fuse box and or any auxillary fuse blocks added. In a car where the battery is in the trunk (Like the Willy's we are documenting on our site as we do the wiring) the alternator and starter run to a auxillary "stud" (insulated of course) that we mount on the frame since the current from the starter can sometimes very easily burn the smaller stud off the alternator.

Fusing, most of the cars we see are just a maze of added accessories and fuses in a car. Most people just "tap" off the nearest voltage source (12v or ignition) and SOMETIMES they will even add a fuse to their new item, but they don't ever think that those existing wires are a certain gauge and only that certain guage cause it was designed to run that particular circuit. When we add extra items like stereo, alarm, cooling fan, ignition systems, electric choke, power windows, power locks and anything else that gets added we always install a secondary fuse box that is directly hooked up to power on it's own. In complete jobs we always install a 18 or 22 circuit harness which always provides more then enough fuses for these add on's and then label them to match (if they don't match).

We use alot of items from the Marine world cause they are cheap and designed to "work" with water and moisture and always provide full protection to avoid shorting something out when working on it.

[Sue]

I was stoked with the stuff i got from Mark. Simply moving to a 3 wire alt. made a difference.
What i did, and what i'd recomend is going to his site and reading all of the articles. its good info and it will improve your car.