69 Camaro C4/C5/LSI/brake coversion help needed!

[brickyard69]

I have a 69 Camaro with drum/drum brakes and I am looking for an inexpensive ($500-$600) front big brake upgrade.

I am interested in a C4/C5/ or LS1 upgrade but I don't know what to look for.

Which one is the best for the money and easiest to do out of C4/C5/LS1?

What size rotor? I have seen C4/C5 in several sizes ie. 12", 12,5", 13".

Can I run a stock booster/master cylinder?

Does anyone have a breakdown of the parts needed?

Please help!!!!

Steve

[73z-6sp]

It may be difficult to do any of those for that price using new parts but maybe. I would suggest looking at www.touring-classics.com They have all the work done for you but it will cost a little more than 5-6 but its worth the headaches you will save if you ask me. Best of luck!

[Mkelcy]

This has been discussed many times. A search will get you a lot of information. To summarize, you can get LS1/C5 calipers (and used rotors) from Ebay for as little as $100. Mounting brackets are available here for about $135:

http://www.speedtech-performance.com/us%20high/67-69%20Camaro/67-69%20Camaro%20Brakes/67-69%20camaro%20brakes.htm

Replacement rotors, if needed, can be purchased at any auto parts store for about $75 or less each. You can use Earl's braided steel brake hoses for a '69 Camaro with the C5/LS1 calipers. You'll need to get your current hubs turned down to fit inside the rotors, there's information on the Speed Tech site. The hubs may also need to be faced, as the rotors index off the hub faces.

The LS1/C5 rotors are about 12.7" in diameter, hence the various claimed sizes.

I run an S-10 MC, but you may well be able to use the stock MC/booster.

Again, try a search and you'll get lots of information.

[CarlC]

If money is the limiting factor, then the choice will be determined by your rim size.

C5 won't work in a 16" rim, and may not fit in some 17's without some rim spacers. C4's will work in some 16's and most all 17's.

[brickyard69]

What are the disadvantages to C4?

There is a set for sale in the Classified section for $325.

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum_main.htm

Anyone see anything wrong with them?

[brickyard69]

Also, is the 12" rotor to small?

[brickyard69]

I have been looking on ebay to buy the parts (rotor and calipers), but I am still unsure what to look for.

C5/C4/LS1?

I don't have wheels yet, so I am open.

It sounds like C5 on the front is the way to go. Is that the deal?

C5 on back too, or I see LS1s on the rear most of the time. Does the C5 not work on a stock rear?

Any guidence would be appreciated. I would love to hear from someone who has done a budget large brake upgrade.

Steve

[brickyard69]

I am still confused. See questions above.

1. Standard C5 12" or 13"?
2. Will C5 work on the rear?

[brickyard69]

What should I look for when buying parts to do the coversion front and rear?

[Y-TRY]

I resonate the idea of contacting Touring-Classics (www.touring-classics.com)

As a matter of fact, you'll see that they are site sponsors. Maybe see if you can purchase partial kits, ie brackets only, etc.

[brickyard69]

I would love to purchase them, but I have a budget of $800 front and rear.

[Steve68]

Steve, I will call you tomorrow, I think I can help you, Steve

[brickyard69]

Would something like this work for a street driver?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-96-CORVETTE-C4-CROSS-DRILL-SLOT-F-R-ROTORS-SET_W0QQitemZ8034294521QQcategoryZ33564QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

C4 13" front
C4 12" rear

Get myself C4 front calipers and brackets
and LS1 rear calipers.

[Van B]

I have a pair of LS1 rear calipers for sale too.

[brickyard69]

What size rotor do they use 12"? What else what I need t set them up?

[zman1969]

i carry 1/4" steel lasercut brakets to mount the LS1 f-body calipers cradles,rotors , this gives you a 12x1.25" rotor a large dual piston aluminum caliper for good stopping power and this setup should be doable for 3-400$ max your drum spindles and hubs need some minor machine work , and longer wheel studs are needed also a adapter fitting to combine the oe bubble flare and inverted flare hard lines . 50$ shipped lower 48 states on brackets
:thankyou:

[brickyard69]

You say body calipers and rotors.

What about C4 and C5? Also what diamenter rotors?

[Taylor1969]

i carry 1/4" steel lasercut brakets to mount the LS1 f-body calipers cradles,rotors , this gives you a 12x1.25" rotor a large dual piston aluminum caliper for good stopping power and this setup should be doable for 3-400$ max your drum spindles and hubs need some minor machine work , and longer wheel studs are needed also a adapter fitting to combine the oe bubble flare and inverted flare hard lines . 50$ shipped lower 48 states on brackets
:thankyou:

Do your brackets come with instructions and/or parts lists?

I am VERY interested.

[brickyard69]

Are C5 and LS1 front calipers the same?

Should I focus on 12" C4 to keep from any wheel troubles?

[Steve68]

No there not, C5 say "CORVETTE" on the caliper, LS1's are plain,

Focus on how you want to build it, if you have to a 12" rotor that sfine it going to stop better than 69 factory parts,

[OHCbird]

Brickyard-

I had the stuff Z is talking about; basically, you're using 98-02 Fbody rotors with the Fbody caliper. They work waaaaaaaay better than the stock 69 stuff. It's a REAL easy swap!

[brickyard69]

Are there clearance problems running a C5 an 13"? To be safe should I run C4 and 12"?

Can you use vette brakes in the rear? It seams liike everyone used LS1 on the rear? Whar is the difference?

I am looking to bur front and rear rotors off ebay 12" ans 12? or 13" and 12"?

I am also looking to buy calipers, C% or C4 front and waht for the rears?

I just want a decent street package. I do noot plan on rabing it.

[brickyard69]

According to Speed Techs web site:

In order to clear many whells they say to get:
C5 calipers
C4 13" rotors
and their brakets

Will an aftermarket C4 13" rotor work?

Where else can I buy the calipers other than ebay?

Are C4 calipers ok?

[OHCbird]

That is basically what I'm running- C5 caliper, 13" C4 rotor (Baer Eradispeed+ 2-piece), and TC brackets (I got my kit from TC).

You can get the calipers from them, or cruise LS1tech.com & the vette forums for the C5 stuff. I had to run this setup for clearance reasons (BS Rebel wheels). Another place to rty is GMpartsdirect.com; they normally have decent prices on the calipers & hardware.

I have a new set of the DBA Gold rotors (13" C4) that I'll sell ya- I have too many sets of rotors here!

C4 Calipers are fine (Baer uses them in a BUNCH of their kits), but if you can fit them, I'd go with the C5 stuff.

[brickyard69]

Who did you have turn the hub to fit?

Is thatthe only machining that needs to be done?

[brickyard69]

Also, where did you fond your calipers?

[1bluaddict]

Try this I know you will like all the options avalible at www.Kore3.com (http://www.Kore3.com) and tell him what you are looking for and he will give you the cost. I have been getting most of my stuff from him and I will have a Z51 setup which gives me 13.6 rotors front and 13 rear. He has all the little stuff I need Pins, Bolts and brackets, etc. I have been very pleased with the quality and the price so look him up, enjoy Claude.:look:

[nc69rs]

I have these listed if anyone's interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8037234614

[brickyard69]

What do you think of this set up?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-96-CORVETTE-C4-CROSS-DRILL-SLOT-F-R-ROTORS-SET_W0QQitemZ8037081604QQcategoryZ33564QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CORVETTE-C5-Z06-RED-BRAKE-CALIPERS-97-04-NEW-GM_W0QQitemZ8036962070QQcategoryZ33563QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Any issues?

[TD509EFI]

I've ordered the C5 rotors from Grip-Force, and the Z06 alipers from Hubcaps through e-Bay, no problem with either company.

John

[brickyard69]

I just bought my parts from www.kore3.com (http://www.kore3.com). They are awsome! They sell Z06 calipers, nice brackets, and trick hoses. Nice people.