ls1 brakes on 69 camaro question

[importkiller69ss]

i am looking to put the ls1 brakes on my 69 i think i know what all i need to do the fron and correct me if i am wrong.....98+ calipers and brackets,
rotors, lines, and the custom bracket to mount them...i ahve stock discs on my 69 now does that mean i have to buy drum spindles?......is their a conversion like this for the rear if soo what all do i need to go from rear drums to ls1 rear......and lastly will this fit with my 16x8 eagle alloys 212's

[derekf]

69 disk spindles are nothing but drum spindles with the upper mounting boss milled down some. Since you're already looking to get a custom bracket to mount them, you might contact whoever you're getting the brackets from to see what they suggest.

[ls67]

I just got done with this mod on a first gen if you want to drop me an email I will send you some pics and some templates that I made for the front and back. I cut them out with a torch and finished them with a bench grinder they worked great and did not cost hardly anything to make. If you dont count the time and the 3 trial brackets I made before I got the templates exactly as I wanted.

fred

[Steve68]

I too am getting ready to do this,

I have a complete rear set and C5 fronts, I have the brackets for 12" and I need to make the 13" bracket too,

[importkiller69ss]

if i use my disc spindles on the front what hub would i use and could could i get to make me a bracket...and how are you doing the rear i would love to know what is involved

[Steve68]

Use the drum hub, and some 1/4 inch steel to make the bracket, but then you'll need to make a spacer, the rears should be bolt on, remove the backing plate, and bolt on the e-brake backing plate,

From what I've heard you need to right hand caliper brackets to reverse the the caliper for staggerd shock clearance, someone else should be able to chime in on this,

[importkiller69ss]

ok so for the front i will be able to use my disc spindles after all and a drum hub will bolt up to it..the rears i will need calipers rotor, lines and what kinda brackets..any special made ones or all 4th gen brackets...

[importkiller69ss]

i have a guy with all the 99ss stuff for 215 that includes calipers, lines, rotors, pads, and brackets,,,front and rear...

[Steve68]

Buy it, the backs just bolt on and then the caliper bracket bolts to the e-brake backing plate,

the hub go's on the spindle just fine,

[importkiller69ss]

but my back is rear drum what esle would i need to do the sawp

[Damn True]

You remove the entire drum assembly, including the backing plate and install the e-brake backing plate from the LS assembly and bolt the caliper to that.

[importkiller69ss]

thats it ebrake backing assembly caliper rotor and lines...so i need any other brackets

[importkiller69ss]

what exactly is the e brake backing plate?

[Steve68]

the E-brake backing plate has/holds smaller shoes that when expanded are like the drum brakes that your going to remove, lock up the rear rotor,

the inside of the rotor looks like the inside of the drum, when the e-brake is activated the shoes push out ward into the drum, which causes no movement, it bolts on to the rear end housing alot like the drum brake backing plate

[importkiller69ss]

so i guess i just find a donor car or buy it new and i am looking for the e brake backing plate, rotor, lines, calipers.pads. corrrect.? anything else and pics of this stuff installed

[importkiller69ss]

would the ls1 brakes fit with my 16x8 eagle aloy series 212's

[Steve68]

Now that question I don't know,

[brickyard69]

Do you need two right hand calipers with staggered shocks?

[importkiller69ss]

i think so...well thats wat i was told

[brickyard69]

Importkiller69:

Where are you with your rear conversion?

I too am trying to find someone who has done this.

[importkiller69ss]

i actually havnt bought any parts yet. i am in college and on a tight budget...i still am palnning on doing it ....how are you doing with this

[Steve68]

All my parts are in the boxes, I have to do a housing swap

[Rick Dorion]

I have a set of front brackets for the ls1 brake conversion, made by Tyler of ATS fame back in the day I don't need if interested. $50 + shipping.

[TMat]

I am in the process of doing this swap. What I have started to do is switch the backing plates side to side from the standard mounting. That way the calipers end up to the rear of the axle and the lever that actuates the parking brake can be pulled from the front with the existing parking brake cable. I have not completely finished this setup, but can the brakes be mounted this way or are the parking brakes only designed to work in a certain orientation. I am moving my shocks inboard to avoid the caliper interference.

[MrQuick]

Do you need two right hand calipers with staggered shocks? you will need two left side backing and calipers when using LS1 rears with staggared shocks.

[importkiller69ss]

what lines do i use

[Steve68]

I think I can run the Left and Right brackets, because I'm mini tubbing the rear, but my housing left last night for bearing end modifications, I'd love to see it on the wheels soon!

[ItDoRun]

For you guys doing the rear LS1 brake conversion, Phil Brewer at BRP Hot Rods has the rear brackets for about $40, I believe. You may want to give him a call. I think the website is www.brphotrods.com (http://www.brphotrods.com)

Chris

[ls67]

here are some pics of what you guys are talking about I hope this link works. btw I had to make my own brackets for the rear because the brackets that came on my calipers didnt even come close to fittin but they are off of a 97 I also used the same ebrake cables and installed the ebrake handle on the tunnel between the buckets

somebody tell me if this link doesnt work, sometimes when I test a link to my pic host it recognizes me and lets me in but wont let non members in if it blocks u out try the password '' hammerhead ''


http://photobucket.com/albums/v643/skinner21/brakes/

[ls67]

I need to go back and take more pics of the brakes front and back I will post them up if anyone needs them.

someone asked earlier about grinding down the upper boss on the spindle. It is not difficult at all I used an angle grinder a die grinder with a 36 grit twist loc and a straight edge to check periodically until you get the right amount taken off.

as far as the hub you should be able to find someone with a lathe I live in the styx but I still found a guy that did it for 20 bucks. IMO that is the way to go it seems it would be tough to get a good fit by hand grinding, but heck I am the guy that allways gets my shirt wrapped up by the grinder.

[importkiller69ss]

yeah pics of it all would be good send them to [email protected] please...thanks

[67RScamaroVette]

pics also to [email protected] please.

[Taylor1969]

Did any of ya'll finish the conversion? I know how to do the fronts and have all the parts lined up and need information on the rear. Does anyone have a working solution for the rear?

[ls67]

that I posted above in the link to my brakes photo album you can print out the template and make your own brackets it works great just follow the instructions on the template.

you can email me if you have any questions.

[email protected]

[importkiller69ss]

what did you use as a master cylinder and booster

[ls67]

what did you use as a master cylinder and booster

I used the master and the booster that came on the ls1 I had to buy adapters to change it over to flared hardlines and an adjustable prop. valve to put inline on the rear breaks you can see the booster mods here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/skinner21/brakes/

[importkiller69ss]

what disrtibution box did you use

[ls67]

what disrtibution box did you use


just a tee in the front

I sent you a pm.

[PairOf69's]

what are the measurements on the rod for the Ls1 booster?

[ls67]

i just mocked it up and with the break pedal in place and the booster in place I just marked it and cut both rods on the booster and the old rod that connects to the pedal which is adjustable at the pedal I then just sleeved them together tacked it in place then removed it and finished welding it up.

[Steve68]

I have both backing plates on with the rotors on the foward side of the axle, Since I have a DSE mini tub kit I don't have any issues with shock interfearance,

[ls67]

if you installthem forward of the axle , be sure that the bleeder is on top cause you are screwed if it is not.

[Steve68]

Bleeders on top, just like a factory install, Been there old VW's had that problem, had a couple

[MarkM66]

I used the master and the booster that came on the ls1 I had to buy adapters to change it over to flared hardlines and an adjustable prop. valve to put inline on the rear breaks you can see the booster mods here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/skinner21/brakes/

ls67, are the front brakes on your page really LS1? They look like C-4 calipers.

[Z06vet]

I just bought a 99 Z28 parts car. I plan on using the rear brakes as well. LS67- I saw you used the master of an LS1. Would it be possible to use the entire master/booster/brake & clutch pedal assembly in my 69? Couldnt I use the existing distribution block & just run all new lines to the brakes from there? Reason I am asking is that I am also using the 6 speed trans & LS1 motor. That way I could use the existing brake rod. I'm not much of a fabricator:eek:

Scott

[68ls1wannabe]

We need detailed pics and instructions on this. It should be a sticky since it's such a popular conversion.

[ITLBTU]

I have a similar question, that fits in this thread. I have a '69 Camaro and I am leaving the leafs in it for now so I have to use two right side calipers. Do you put one caliper on the front and one on the rear so you will clear the shock mount? I'm running out of money fast so I need to utilize what I have, unless I would be better off making new shock mounts and moving the shocks inboard.