View Full Version : In a big world of subframes!
ProTouringRS
01-20-2006, 01:51 AM
I am in need of a new subframe, I want something that can be purchased complete hub to hub minus assembly of cource that would give me the ability to fit wider front tires perhaps 275's and that would offer good handling characteristics. Im not looking to spend 7,000 allthough I do love the 21'st centuries subframe, I am capable of making framerail modifications to fit wider tires. basically what my question is: What is the best affordable setup that offers some of the qualities I have mentioned. CA chassisworks, martz, just to name a very few. Anything coming in the near future? Also I do like the idea of air ride for adjustability. What is out their that is shockwave compatable in a package?
THANKS
Zack
1968 camaro RS
FJB2069
01-20-2006, 07:14 AM
I am in the same situation. The problem I am having is spending the money and not being able to fit a 9" tire. Supoosedly the DSE frame will support a 9" tire, but will not be available until summer. I just want to know how DSE will accomplish that, Chassisworks claims that if they were to move the subrame in to allow for larger tires it would create a problem for header clearance. Does the larger tire hit the subframe or the inner fender? I really do not what to spend money for a new frame and then have to modify it.
Steve1968LS2
01-20-2006, 07:46 AM
Well, if you hunted down you own C5 parts you could get the 21st deal for around $5500 or so.
What is your budget? Chris Alston stuff isn't bad although I am unsure of the price. A stock sub can work great but won't help you get huge rollers up front.
You could also try and find a used subframe. Fitting a 9" tire is not that hard.. Penny had 275's up front with the FatMan. The hard part is still having a decent turning radius. I am sure DSE's will be good, given their quality I am sure it will be pricy as well.
FJB2069
01-20-2006, 07:54 AM
What mods did you have to do to fit the 275's? Fatman told me that theirs only fits ~7".
Did you just put stops on the turning radius of mod the frame and fneders?
B Schein
01-20-2006, 07:56 AM
The problem with running the wide wheel is not the tire hitting the frame rails. the interference comes from the rim hitting the tie rod when you turn the wheels. This is just a compromise that must be made in order to have the correct bump steer. You can run widers wheels but it will decrees your turning radius.
FJB2069
01-20-2006, 08:02 AM
What if they are 18" rims?
B Schein
01-20-2006, 08:31 AM
Are you asking specifically on the 21 century frame or just a general question because it varies on each setup?
I don’t know the exact specifics wheels that will fit too many variables such as backspacing, width, a reveres drop lip wheel is smaller on the back side.
If you have want to talk about it I will be at the shop tomorrow some time after 10 am just give a call I will answer as many specific questions as I can.
ProTouringRS
01-20-2006, 12:28 PM
I would be willing to spend up to 4500 on a good setup. What size tires can you run on the Chris Alston frame? I do like the subframe connectors they make for their frames. Anyone out there have an Alston frame installed, what do you think about them? Instead of coilovers could you clear air bags? What aftermarket frames can clear shockwaves? What other setups are out there?
rockdogz
01-20-2006, 02:50 PM
I have the Alston unit. Very well made - I'm happy with it except for caster/camber adjustment...possibly due to Alston's straight-line heritage. STILL not on the road yet (paintjail) so that's about all I can tell you. Pics on my site. I've never installed a 'bagged setup so I'm not sure if airshocks would fit in there...
I'm running a 245/35/17 front tire and there may be room for a bit more.
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