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MoeBawlz
09-27-2004, 09:44 AM
Which subframe connectors do you guys have? and how much of them shows from the bottom of the car?

Do the comp engineering ones show more than DSE? Does anyone have pics of them?

Thanks in advance

HOT OHC
09-29-2004, 07:12 PM
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baz67
09-29-2004, 08:39 PM
It would be tough to get a lower profile SFC than the DSE ones. If the CE ones you speek of are bolt in than I would say they will sit lower than the DSE ones. I have a set of the CE in my garage and that is what they look like they would do.
Brian

MoeBawlz
10-03-2004, 05:44 PM
I have CEs bolt ons already but im getting weld ins... the design is different, i was just curious if they were much different from DSE.

immrtransam
10-06-2004, 03:22 AM
I have CE bolt ins that i welded in as I did'nt want to cut the floor-pans. They do "hang" lower than bolt ons and I gotta be careful with speed bumps and curbs. :evil:

BA.
04-29-2005, 04:24 PM
yeah, yeah, I'm bringing up an old thread.

I have a similar question about sub-frame connectors. The ones I have are from Competition Engineering as well, and they are the weld-in design.
They're not on the car yet, but they LOOK/FEEL like really sturdy, heavy duty pieces. They are 38" long with about a 4"x3" square at one end and a 4"x4" square at the other end.

I don't want stuff sticking all down and crap, I wanna lower my car pretty good on 17's or 18's.

Think I should sell these and get something else? I've had these things forever.

Also, do ALL subframe connectors cause you to cut through the rear floor-pan? I was kind of hoping there was a good set that didn't. Just curious.


Thx!

MrQuick
04-29-2005, 05:28 PM
The DSE ones are nice.
The weld in CC SC are beefy. I trimmed the top of a set of weld ins before. You place the SC's up against the floor pan then trim the top till it sits to your likeing, then trim more. After all the cutting I cut and welded a piece of flat stock to box it back up again. I had it sit up tight and flush with the body, with no cutting of the floor pan at all.
If I was to do it again I would make a card board template.

zbugger
04-29-2005, 05:42 PM
Have you ever looked at the Global West connectors? From what I remember, they are tubular and have pretty good ground clearance. Does anyone here have them? I should get a set myself...

Mike72ss
04-30-2005, 12:02 PM
I just installed a set of the Global West SFC's. I believe they are 1 1/2"
tubular steel, that weld on the rear framerail and can bolt in the front. I ended up welding them up front too. They also come with new solid aluminum mounts for the front that are designed to work with these connectors. As far as "hanging down", I bet they about the same as the DSE connctors, which is about as good as you'll get without chopping up the floorboards.

Mike

79T/Aman
04-30-2005, 01:36 PM
check pro-touringf-body.com and save a hundred bucks and no need for a special body bushing.

CarlC
04-30-2005, 04:54 PM
There are several pics on my website that show/don't show the weld-in type connector. Mine are similar to the DSE.

As the connector gets longer, system rigidity reduces. The same thing happens when the connections are changed. Weld-in types offers the best rigidity.

chicane67
04-30-2005, 05:25 PM
I have had the GW SC's on the 67 for about 15 years now and love them. I think if I had to do it again, I would use the vert connectors, because I think they fit and look better. There's nothing wrong with the coupe connectors, but the vert connectors make life a little eaiser when removing the front spring/spring perches of the rear leaf spring.

BTW the material is 1 5/8.

Todds69
05-01-2005, 02:41 PM
I've got Comp Eng. bolt in on mine and want to switch to the weld in style. I really like the Dse ones but dont really want to hack into the floor. I've really like the GW's too....Not sure which way I will go...cant go wrong either way I guess.

Martin71RS
05-01-2005, 10:57 PM
does anybody know where I can order the GW SFC's for 2nd gen ONLINE???

GW website is a pain in the backside IMO and the mailaddress on there didnt work....

zbugger
05-01-2005, 10:59 PM
www.ronsraceshop.com

ss dave
05-02-2005, 12:50 AM
I have a 69 convert Camaro and used the Comp Eng. subframes. We cut a notch for the SF in the converts cross brace that runs from the tranny tunnel to the outer frame, then tucked the SF up against the floor pan and welded the braces to the frames and front and backs. Very clean appearance almost "factory" and very rigid.

Martin71RS
05-03-2005, 03:22 AM
Thanks for that Allen, I ordered them right away!

Martin

EFI69Cam
05-03-2005, 05:13 AM
I've got Comp Eng. bolt in on mine and want to switch to the weld in style. I really like the Dse ones but dont really want to hack into the floor. I've really like the GW's too....Not sure which way I will go...cant go wrong either way I guess.


Welding the connector into the floor provides an added degree of rigidity. I had the CE bolt ons, and switched to DSE, the difference is day and night.
I figure something that is going to make the car better is worth cutting the floor a bit.

rob07002
05-03-2005, 09:01 AM
I've got the DSE SC, but would go with the Global West SC's if you don't want to cut the floor....

Martin71RS
05-03-2005, 10:58 PM
well....I ordered them....and cancelled again....price was $215,- not too bad...but the $200,- shipping was :crying:

I think for that total I can have some made here (welded in)......shipping spoils it every time......

Steve68
05-04-2005, 03:45 AM
Martin, that call for a big OUCH!!!!!, in the wallet!!

Piet
05-04-2005, 05:23 AM
Hey Martin,

I have a copy of Art Rasmussen's SFC plans (from nastyz28.com)
They are pretty easy to fabricate.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=subframe18nt.gif) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=subframe20rb.gif) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=subframe31do.gif) https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=subframe42xf.gif)

Martin71RS
05-04-2005, 06:39 AM
Thanks Piet, I have them too somewhere.... but I can't weld...so that's why I wanted to go for the GW's......

Piet
05-04-2005, 11:41 AM
Have a local welder do it for you?.. can he do it for less that $415??

Steve1968LS2
05-04-2005, 03:08 PM
The Global West subframe connectors were VERY VERY well made.. in fact they were great all around and went on with zero issues. They weld to the rear frame rails and bolt to the front subframe. This is good since it allows you to pull the front sub easily if you have to (or you can weld it the front sub for a tad more rigidity).

Nice product..

Steve1968LS2
05-04-2005, 03:09 PM
Thanks Piet, I have them too somewhere.... but I can't weld...so that's why I wanted to go for the GW's......

The backs of the GW units need to be welded to the back frame.. :ssst:

Martin71RS
05-05-2005, 10:07 PM
I know Steve, but they don't need excessive floorpan surgery....to have someone weld the GW's in won't cost too much......