Dse Core Support Closeout? Looks Familiar!!

[toofun]

Correct me if I am wrong but didnt someone on this board fabricate one of these recently? Last time I heard the template was drifting around between members. Wonder if it drifted into the hands of one of the boys at DSE?? I am sure it is not exactly the same but it is the same idea anyways. One question concerning this setup. If you have the battery in the stock location it makes for a difficult time getting to it.

Mark

[Rick Dorion]

There's a thread on camaros.net.

I made one, a bit simpler than DSE's, that works well. I was primarily interested in air flow.

[toofun]

Hey Rick thanks for the fast reply. Do you happen to have the link handy? Also do you have pics of the one you made? Curious as to how it looks.

Thanks
Mark

[D Rock]

I would like to see some pics and a link as well.

Derek

[trapin]

I saw that. I know it's not any of my business but if I can offer some "constructive" criticism here, I really think the time, resources, and money that went into the tooling for that thing would have been better spent on developing a suspension component for another make or model like a Mustang or a Chrysler. Kyle and Stacy make some great parts for 1st gen Camaros and granted it's their company and they can run it any way they want. But I think at this point they've pretty much got the 1st gen Camaro tapped out and should be concentrating their resources towards expanding their portfolio to include other makes and models. I think there's more of a market for control arms for a Mustang than there is for a $400 cosmetic peice. But hey, God love em...that's just my $.02

[Charley Lillard]

I guessing they spent all the time and effort making it for Stuarts old car so it was easy to produce after that.

[Steve1968LS2]

I saw that. I know it's not any of my business but if I can offer some "constructive" criticism here, I really think the time, resources, and money that went into the tooling for that thing would have been better spent on developing a suspension component for another make or model like a Mustang or a Chrysler. Kyle and Stacy make some great parts for 1st gen Camaros and granted it's their company and they can run it any way they want. But I think at this point they've pretty much got the 1st gen Camaro tapped out and should be concentrating their resources towards expanding their portfolio to include other makes and models. I think there's more of a market for control arms for a Mustang than there is for a $400 cosmetic peice. But hey, God love em...that's just my $.02

Remember.. the hard part was already done since it was designed for the Aluminator.. It was just a matter of giving the dimensions to a fab shop and getting some churned out. I imagine that they got many requests for this product and saw a market. Also, I know it's mostly cosmetic, but I imagine it has some performance benefit since it forces more air through the radiator since it seals up that area.

Besides, you can buy mustang a-arms from other souces (total control, global west, etc) nobody else sells this part.

I am thinking of spending the $$$ and getting one for penny, really cleans up the bay.

And there you have my .01 (canadian, so it's worth even less.. lol)

[TonyHuntimer]

Does anyone have a picture of the support in question?

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[Steve Chryssos]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[TonyHuntimer]

Nevermind. I see it on DSE's website. :doh:

That's not a core support. That's a shroud. I thought DSE was making replacement core supports...like a tubular version or something.

Tony~

[Steve Chryssos]

Somebody post the camaros.net link

I love to read crap like this. What's the deal? Someone else figures they invented underhood tin?

[TonyHuntimer]

I'm totally with you Steve!

:)
Tony~

[MrQuick]

no, its just some are upset others make money on stuff they could have...everyone wants to be the one who invented the internet.
That sort of stuff has been around for years...its about time someone mass produces it. Now for fabricated inner wheel wells that doesn't look like a Nazi war helmet..

[Doug Cooper]

I saw that. I know it's not any of my business but if I can offer some "constructive" criticism here, I really think the time, resources, and money that went into the tooling for that thing would have been better spent on developing a suspension component for another make or model like a Mustang or a Chrysler. Kyle and Stacy make some great parts for 1st gen Camaros and granted it's their company and they can run it any way they want. But I think at this point they've pretty much got the 1st gen Camaro tapped out and should be concentrating their resources towards expanding their portfolio to include other makes and models. I think there's more of a market for control arms for a Mustang than there is for a $400 cosmetic peice. But hey, God love em...that's just my $.02

I know Kyle and Stacey aren't letting any grass grow under their feet. If you think 1st generation camaros are tapped out as far as aftermarket development, think again... watch DSE for future products!!!!!!!!!
Doug

[Steve Chryssos]

watch DSE for future products!!!!!!!!!
Doug

Wow Doug,
NINE exclamation points. That must be a new world's record :lmao:

[trapin]

Remember.. the hard part was already done since it was designed for the Aluminator.. It was just a matter of giving the dimensions to a fab shop and getting some churned out. I imagine that they got many requests for this product and saw a market. Also, I know it's mostly cosmetic, but I imagine it has some performance benefit since it forces more air through the radiator since it seals up that area.

Besides, you can buy mustang a-arms from other souces (total control, global west, etc) nobody else sells this part.

I am thinking of spending the $$$ and getting one for penny, really cleans up the bay.

And there you have my .01 (canadian, so it's worth even less.. lol)
Oh...well, I guess that makes sense. I didn't know about the Aluminator. :geek:

[Doug Cooper]

Wow Doug,
NINE exclamation points. That must be a new world's record :lmao:
Steve it's just like the gas pedal "hold it to the floor" and nine came up!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve Chryssos]

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Woohoo! Yeah, buddy. Okay I've got the hang of it

[Doug Cooper]

Looks like something let go on top end you're missing one [!]

[Doug Cooper]

Steve, anybody at OBI or Captree on nice winter Sundays?

[Steve Chryssos]

Looks like something let go on top end you're missing one [!]
Yeah, I bounced it off the rev limiter.


Steve, anybody at OBI or Captree on nice winter Sundays?
No, but let's get together anyway. Call me. The number's at my website. I always kick myself for not getting your info everytime we bump into each other.

[Damn True]

Somebody post the camaros.net link

I love to read crap like this. What's the deal? Someone else figures they invented underhood tin?



LOL, no kidding. I have a photo of the engine compartment on Mark Donohue's '68 that I took at Monterey Historics, a nearly identical component.

In '69 they tilted the radiator and ducted it all the way to the grille.

[toofun]

Definately have NOT tapped out the market on the first gen camaro. I am just surprised they have not come up with a complete custom console or dash. They definately have the skills and lets face it, the stock complete dash assembly looks like dog dung!!

[Stuart Adams]

It works great in hiding all the vacuum crap on 69 RS cars.
After making it for my old car, they had a bunch of intrest in the part.

[vanzuuk1]

When have we had a nice winter sunday lately?

If the sun does not come out this weekend I may kill myself.I feel like I moved to london.

[Steve Chryssos]

When have we had a nice winter sunday lately?

If the sun does not come out this weekend I may kill myself.I feel like I moved to london.

Yeah. Nice weather. If you're a seal.

[Rick Dorion]

Ahhh, nothing like having no power for a few days this week.

[Doug Cooper]

Definately have NOT tapped out the market on the first gen camaro. I am just surprised they have not come up with a complete custom console or dash. They definately have the skills and lets face it, the stock complete dash assembly looks like dog dung!!

I'd like to see something that looks better than the stock dash in a 1st gen? The aftermarket dash insert with the round guages just doesn't work [for me] with the square configuration of the stock dash.
I'd like to see some pictures of a dash thats real nice. Doug

[vanzuuk1]

Doug I agree, I dont like the aftermarket setups as much as the stock one.

Where in westchester are you from?

[Steve Chryssos]

No, you're from Westchester. He's from Long Island.

[Doug Cooper]

Grew up in Eastchester

Worked at East Coast Speed in Yonkers as a teenager [late 70's] drove a black 70 nova with centerlines on it.

Was the Snap-on dealer in Elmsford late 83 and 84

Moved to Long Island with Snap-on in 87 been stuck on this sand barge eversince and lovin it!

[Bob Johnson]

Grew up in Eastchester

Worked at East Coast Speed in Yonkers as a teenager [late 70's] drove a black 70 nova with centerlines on it.

Was the Snap-on dealer in Elmsford late 83 and 84

Moved to Long Island with Snap-on in 87 been stuck on this sand barge eversince and lovin it!
doug..put one of those aluminum pieces on the Battleaxe..it comes with a complimentary cheese ball..I think Detroit Speed is tops in the game..glad they're discontinuing this piece..musta got a red neck surge when they first moved to North Carolina..maybe it's functional but it sure looks cheesy..looks like a early 90's pro street piece..

[Steve Chryssos]

I don't think they're discontinuing it. I think they made a boo boo by NAMING it a "Closeout" instead of a Cover or Panel.

[Doug Cooper]

doug..put one of those aluminum pieces on the Battleaxe..it comes with a complimentary cheese ball..I think Detroit Speed is tops in the game..glad they're discontinuing this piece..musta got a red neck surge when they first moved to North Carolina..maybe it's functional but it sure looks cheesy..looks like a early 90's pro street piece..

Bob should I paint it black? No not the cheese ball you cheese ball the close out.

[Steve Chryssos]

Bob should I paint it black? No not the cheese ball you cheese ball the close out.

Cover!

[Doug Cooper]

Cover!

Dse should sell some "Covers" now!

[Steve Chryssos]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!.!--!x! Oops. Okay now I hurt something.

[Doug Cooper]

Dse should sell some "Covers" now!
I like the piece on Staurts car at sema last year. Cleans up the front end. If I can't come up with a better idea [doubtful]I'll use that on my current project.

[vanzuuk1]

Steve I know where I am from, he grew up in westchester, eastchester to be specific.

[Bob Johnson]

Bob should I paint it black? No not the cheese ball you cheese ball the close out.
painting it black would help..the more you hide it and disguise it the better I would like it.. I don't like the looks of anything that is obviously a cover up..the original intent was to clean up the area..now guys have covers that cover the whole top of the ugly motors like LS'1's with those hideous coils on top of the valvecovers..functional but ugly..guys trying to hide the side entry injection on the Ford small blocks and mod motors..etc...I love the stock 69 dash and console guages..hard to improve on it in my eyes..unless Chris Itoh did it..he could improve on it..he's the man..of course on your Cuda Killer you're gonna have to step up on the dash..but you's one high steppin mo fo...

[Steve Chryssos]

Steve I know where I am from, he grew up in westchester, eastchester to be specific.

Who?

[camcojb]

I'd like to see something that looks better than the stock dash in a 1st gen? The aftermarket dash insert with the round guages just doesn't work [for me] with the square configuration of the stock dash.
I'd like to see some pictures of a dash thats real nice. Doug

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/01/marquez_interior-1.jpg

Jody

[trapin]

doug..put one of those aluminum pieces on the Battleaxe..it comes with a complimentary cheese ball..I think Detroit Speed is tops in the game..glad they're discontinuing this piece..musta got a red neck surge when they first moved to North Carolina..maybe it's functional but it sure looks cheesy..looks like a early 90's pro street piece..

They're discontinuing it? They just came out with it. Wow that was fast.

[camcojb]

They're discontinuing it? They just came out with it. Wow that was fast.


Guys, it is not being discontinued. It's name is a close-out because it closes out an ugly area of the car, not because it's being discontinued and is on "close out"!!!! :git:

I like it because that area is ugly on every 67-69 Camaro I've seen.

Jody

[camcojb]

I love the stock 69 dash and console guages..hard to improve on it in my eyes..unless Chris Itoh did it..he could improve on it..he's the man..of course on your Cuda Killer you're gonna have to step up on the dash..but you's one high steppin mo fo...

Say it ain't so Bob! :seizure: The 69 Camaro dash is one of the ugliest factory dashes I've ever seen. It gets more negative comments than any other I've heard.

But to each his own, that's what's great about this hobby. And you obviously have great taste, other than this one! :lol:

Jody

[Bill Howell]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/01/marquez_interior-1.jpg

Jody

Man Jody, everytime I see that dash I want to start another 69 just to put it in. Such a nice conversion on the original style, yet not a late model look, oh, what about another door panel shot too.

[Doug Cooper]

"but you's one high steppin mo fo..."



Bob I gotta be high steppin cause I been hangin with you

And with the SH** you always talkin I gotta watch for the big piles!
[but you backed it up with that Cuda build]

Goin to a hockey game see ya later Doug