Aftermarket frame?

[71maroesteban]

Is the Speedtech pro touring frame a good upgrade? I hear the first gen camaro lends itself very well to a aftermarket frame as it corrects the geometry the best as well as the steering geometry. Also is the pro touring subframe good enough for mostly a street car that will see Autocross and the occasional track day? I see they have a extreme frame but I’m not sure if that is overkill

[Nothingface5384]

Yes, get it with the 3link

[71maroesteban]

Yes, get it with the 3link

What about their torque arm? I hear nothing but amazing things about that set up

[dhutton]

Reliability and warranty service on that Unisteer rack is marginal at best. I would steer clear. Consider DSE or Art Morrison imho....

Don

[71maroesteban]

Reliability and warranty service on that Unisteer rack is marginal at best. I would steer clear. Consider DSE or Art Morrison imho....

Don

Are you referring to the fact that it is a rear steering system or the brand unisteer? I was told they do not use unisteer products

[2yellow69]

Definitely uses a Unisteer rack. Unless they acquired a bunch of boxes from Unisteer and use those for their rack.:confused:
This is the second Unisteer rack I've had now. Car is not on the steet yet though. The first was directly from Unisteer. Never had any issues with it. The one from Speedtech has outer tie rods that are twice as thick as the original Unisteer rack I have. Don't know if it's an upgrade across the board or because it came with the subframe.

[Pro Touring Store]

I'd look into Schwartz Performance with their bolt-in full chassis. I've seen many of them out racing.
Or do some subframe connectors & piece together RideTech suspension. Those guys are fast with their first-gen too.

[71maroesteban]

Seems like no one is in favor of the Speedtech stuff on here? Price was good but I guess DSE is the way to go.

[dhutton]

Seems like no one is in favor of the Speedtech stuff on here? Price was good but I guess DSE is the way to go.
I don’t think that’s the case. Just not a fan of their low cost subframe with the Unisteer rack. The rest of their stuff is good quality.

Don

[71maroesteban]

I don’t think that’s the case. Just not a fan of their low cost subframe with the Unisteer rack. The rest of their stuff is good quality.

Don

Would you recommend stepping up to the extreme subframe or just sticking with the stock frame and going all ridetech?

[dhutton]

Would you recommend stepping up to the extreme subframe or just sticking with the stock frame and going all ridetech?
Been there done that with Ridetech. Hated it, sold the car because of it. Get a quality aftermarket subframe.

Don

[71maroesteban]

Been there done that with Ridetech. Hated it, sold the car because of it. Get a quality aftermarket subframe.

Don

Looks like I’ll get the extreme frame.. pay once cry once

[TheJDMan]

I have not had any regrets after installing my DSE sub-frame.

175601

[dhutton]

The big advantage of the Speedtech Xtreme subframe is that is uses a quality Sweet rack and pinion instead of the Mustang rack that everyone else is using.

Don

[Gmachine1911]

My vote is for the DSE subframe as well. That’s what I bought for my 67 Nova project as well.

[71maroesteban]

I have not had any regrets after installing my DSE sub-frame.

175601

Only thing keeping me from getting the dse right now is I want a compete system front and rear and I much prefer the ease of installation the torque arm gives

[TANKMASTERJ]

Definitely nothing wrong with the torque arm and lots of people running with big power. I have it and the original pro touring subframe from Speedtech and its a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. Is it the absolute best ? Not now but still an excellent upgrade. if a person wanted all out the Extreme Pro touring subframe or the DSE is probably a better suited to road course.
But Speedtech makes fine Equip and fits like a glove in my first gen (67)

[71maroesteban]

Definitely nothing wrong with the torque arm and lots of people running with big power. I have it and the original pro touring subframe from Speedtech and its a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. Is it the absolute best ? Not now but still an excellent upgrade. if a person wanted all out the Extreme Pro touring subframe or the DSE is probably a better suited to road course.
But Speedtech makes fine Equip and fits like a glove in my first gen (67)

I hear mixed things about the pro touring frame and I’m not a fan of that steering arrangement. I much would like a front steer instead of the rear steer. At a only 1500 dollar difference between the frames I don’t mind the upgrade. I was gonna be purchasing a c8 but would rather have a killer 69

[TANKMASTERJ]

Agreed. I didn't even know about the extreme when I bought mine new never installed. But still a good upgrade over a factory frame.
But yeah I wish I had the extreme. My old 420 HP didn't beat on the car like my new 650hp will

[nicks67camaro]

I went with the pro-touring frame from Speedtech. Its still a nice upgrade from just bolt ons. I'm using my stock spindles still and for the price it was hard to beat. Are there better options out there? Yes. But if you not chasing a tenth second or want to keep up with the neighbors then I feel like its a viable option.

[71maroesteban]

I went with the pro-touring frame from Speedtech. Its still a nice upgrade from just bolt ons. I'm using my stock spindles still and for the price it was hard to beat. Are there better options out there? Yes. But if you not chasing a tenth second or want to keep up with the neighbors then I feel like its a viable option.

Why use the stock spindles and not the AFX spindle? The majority of the improvement comes from the spindle itself

[nicks67camaro]

I'm us stock spindles just to spread the cost out for now. Even with out the spindles the frame is made with some improvements. I had a stock frame, lee box, SPC upper arms tall ball joint, sway bar all the typical bolt ons. The Speedtech is so much nicer to drive. For me I'm not racing and wanted a solid street car with a bunch of power.

Here is a good thread on it.
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/76814-Speedtech-Subframe/page2?p=767522&highlight=speedtech

[71maroesteban]

Went ahead and just ordered the extreme track time... it hurt but pay once cry once. Seeing how this system was designed by Ron Sutton I don’t think I will ever out drive the car. Plus being able to run a 315 up front is what beat the dse frame for me

[nicks67camaro]

Nice!

[CamSTP]

Nice! You are going to be happy and super impressed!
Feel free to send me photos during the build [email protected].