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Steve Chryssos
12-20-2005, 05:24 PM
As some of you may know, Shay Campbell's 69 Camaro Camaro ended up here on Long Island in the hands of fellow member JimHamptons. And winters on Long Island are cold and boring. So what do we do? Take apart perfectly good cars and make changes. Well, this car is getting some big changes. The work is being done by Todd Tureski at TLT Race Tek in Water Mill, NY. As built by Shay Campbell, the car was a real sledgehammer. Killer 900HP burnout machine!
http://www.lateral-g.net/campbell/

After the mods, the car will be more of a precision instrument.
-The heavily modified stock clip will be replaced with a 21st Century C5 clip.
-The blown big block will be replaced by the Thrasher's spare all aluminum fuel injected 580HP 400 small block.
-The TH400/Gear Vendors will be replaced by a paddle shifted Hughes 4L80E.
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Bill Howell
12-20-2005, 05:46 PM
COOL! What a change in an already perfect car. Any idea what the weight bias change will be. Surely it is going on a very big diet up front. Should be a real canyon carver when finished.
Steve1968LS2
12-20-2005, 06:06 PM
And winters on Long Island are cold and boring. So what do we do? Take apart perfectly good cars and make changes.

What kind of idiot takes apart a perfectly good car???

Oh wait... nevermind :banghead:


Look cool Stevo.. Jim is gonna have one sweet car when he is done and he can feel like it is HIS car... :icon996:
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 05:18 AM
COOL! What a change in an already perfect car. Any idea what the weight bias change will be. Surely it is going on a very big diet up front. Should be a real canyon carver when finished.

The car had an iron block 502 with an intercooled Procharger. That plus the clip change should result in about a 300lb net diet and bias change. 4L80E's are heavy, but so are TH400/GV combos. Todd's shop is the real deal, so the car will be scaled when complete.
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 05:23 AM
...... Jim is gonna have one sweet car when he is done and he can feel like it is HIS car... :icon996:

Jim has had his share of refined sports cars, so he expects the car to live up to the whole pro-touring ideal.
73z-6sp
12-21-2005, 07:43 AM
Wow...that was one awesome car to begin with! I love that turbo sound! Cant wait to see what you do with it.

:)
Travis B
12-21-2005, 08:01 AM
Wow...that was one awesome car to begin with! I love that turbo sound! Cant wait to see what you do with it.

:)

that was actually a supercharger....... :)
Travis B
12-21-2005, 08:02 AM
that was a killer car to begin with....should handle much better after the changes!

Steve have you ridden in a car with the 21st century clip on it? if so how does it compare to others?
ProdigyCustoms
12-21-2005, 08:27 AM
Not only is he losing weight, he is losing really bad weight. The intercooler hanging off the nose, then the Procharger hanging off the front of the motor, which is well in front of the front tires, are really bad weight, not to metion the iron big block. Even though it is a 300lb diet, balance wise it will seem like much more.
whytry
12-21-2005, 08:46 AM
Does he wanna sell the procharger? Had to ask
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 08:50 AM
that was a killer car to begin with....should handle much better after the changes!

Steve have you ridden in a car with the 21st century clip on it? if so how does it compare to others?

Travis,
This will be the first 21st Century car I get to drive. I should gain an interesting seat-of-the-pants perspective when compared to my car which has a modified ARDF C4 clip. Many differences between the two cars, but still a worthwhile comparison.

As for right now, I'm way more curious with how well the install goes. I'm driving Todd crazy with questions and comments. "What about this?....How'z that?......Lemme see!" Right now it all looks good, although the engine sure looks kinda high. I had to raise my engine to clear the modified rack location so the engine is supposed to go up.
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 08:52 AM
Does he wanna sell the procharger? Had to ask

The complete drivetrain has already been sold off.
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 08:53 AM
Not only is he losing weight, he is losing really bad weight. The intercooler hanging off the nose, then the Procharger hanging off the front of the motor, which is well in front of the front tires, are really bad weight, not to metion the iron big block. Even though it is a 300lb diet, balance wise it will seem like much more.

That's the idea. Nothing wrong with the car in it's previous "sledgehammer" configuration, but Jim wants a scalpel instead.
73z-6sp
12-21-2005, 09:40 AM
that was actually a supercharger....... :)

DOH! Sorry! Im a moron! It looked like a turbo in one of the pics I saw.

OK...my dumas is going back to work...
Travis B
12-21-2005, 09:42 AM
DOH! Sorry! Im a moron! It looked like a turbo in one of the pics I saw.

OK...my dumas is going back to work...


it's an honest mistake...that car had more plumbing that most turbo cars anyway....si can see why at first glance it would apprear that way
Ralph LoGrasso
12-21-2005, 09:48 AM
Steevo, Jim, the car is looking great! I think with the changes you're making, the car will really take shape of what Jim is ultimately looking for. Let me know when Jim gets the car back, I've definitely gotta stop by and check it out in its new form.
CAMAROBOY69
12-21-2005, 10:14 AM
Just when I thought a car was already bad A$$ then you guys go and make it even better. I bet that car will be killer when finished. Keep us updated Steve! :icon996:
Steve1968LS2
12-21-2005, 10:49 AM
Steve have you ridden in a car with the 21st century clip on it? if so how does it compare to others?

Not yet, but I plan on having lots of seat time.. SOON!!

It should compare very well, the design seem well thought out and it's more adjustable than other units on the market.
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 10:53 AM
Oh, that's right. He's Steve. Anyway, here's a shot of the "clearancing" required to fit the 4L80E with a 21st Century clip. Remember that the small block is higher and a touch further back that with an OE clip. So a 4L80E might clear in this area with a stock clip
Steve1968LS2
12-21-2005, 11:02 AM
Oh, that's right. He's Steve. Anyway, here's a shot of the "clearancing" required to fit the 4L80E with a 21st Century clip. Remember that the small block is higher and a touch further back that with an OE clip. So a 4L80E might clear in this area with a stock clip

Cool pic.. going to be starting to mod my tunnel next week.. the 4l80 is fatter and even with a stock clip you will probley have to mod the tunnel just a little. The 4l60 fit like a glove in my '69

Hey, Street Rodder came to my office and asked me install questions on the Shrifter.. looks like they are finally doing an install with it. (about time). I gave them the issue with my install story in it.
Steve Chryssos
12-21-2005, 11:05 AM
Thank you. I owe you a cervesa mas finas.
jimhamptons
12-21-2005, 01:12 PM
Steve, thanks for posting the pictures...

Thanks for the comments....I am looking forward to the end result of the car from a handling and overall driveability standpoint.

I feel fortunate to have a guy like Steve around to help me out regarding the process of making this car the way I want it. Todd at TLT is also a great car guy as well and I believe the project is in good hands. Shay surely built a great car that would fry the tires at will and I appreciate that as well.

Heck, I am looking forward to driving this car to work and also have fun on some twisty roads during lunch breaks.

I believe the car weighed in around 3,670 pounds when it was on the scales prior to ripping it apart for the new setup...So, I should have some solid weight loss numbers and front/rear weight ratios when the car is done.
69Nova
12-21-2005, 02:58 PM
Defintly a sweet car.

About how much does the 21st Century Subframe cost?
B Schein
12-21-2005, 03:31 PM
Steve have you ridden in a car with the 21st century clip on it? if so how does it compare to others?

I have, don't jerk the wheel to fast unless you want to get whiplash.

Our convertible test mule will take more than I am willing to throw at it.
vanzuuk1
12-21-2005, 06:41 PM
Steevo and Jim, that car will be sweet. I see a lot of get togethers happening this summer.

I would ask Jim if I could drive it around the block, but steevo has seen me drive!
jimhamptons
12-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Steevo and Jim, that car will be sweet. I see a lot of get togethers happening this summer.

I would ask Jim if I could drive it around the block, but steevo has seen me drive!


Defenitely looking forward to some get togethers next spring, summer and fall....

Drive it like you own it...its just parts...:icon996:

BTW, ask Steve about his attempt at power braking my SL65, too many computers to keep us "safe"....LOL
vanzuuk1
12-22-2005, 03:58 AM
I wish we lived closer to the year one event in georgia, or we will just do our own event up here.
vanzuuk1
12-22-2005, 04:04 AM
Jim, Do your sports car buddies like your camaro , or do they think you downgraded?

Car guys seem to be more open minded these days, less rivalry and more enjoyment.
Steve Chryssos
12-22-2005, 05:05 AM
Steevo and Jim, that car will be sweet. I see a lot of get togethers happening this summer.

I would ask Jim if I could drive it around the block, but steevo has seen me drive!

Yeah. Let's start things off right with Power Tour. Borrowing each other's cars is no problem. You wreck it, you own it.