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derekf
03-27-2020, 07:13 PM
So... I built an LS1 in 2005.

Through all fault of my own, it's sat ever since. It's never had oil in it, beyond assembly lube.

It's coming up on time for it to pretend to be an engine.

I *think* the rockers weren't torqued so the valves were sealed, but the tape covering the spark plug holes dried up and fell off somewhere along the way. I also *think* that I wiped the cylinder walls down with oil during assembly.

The mental image I've got is that I'll need to put about a half-pint of oil in each of the spark plug holes and let it drain past the rings to start lubricating the cylinder walls, and then once that drains down some, turn the engine slowly using the crank bolt (lather, repeat, until the dipstick reads correctly) (and hope that the seals still, well, seal).

Is that a really horrible idea, is there something different I need to do?

nzcarguy
03-27-2020, 09:57 PM
Sounds like a plan, I might keep the plugs out when cranking it.

Alwhite00
03-28-2020, 04:17 AM
I had a 406 small block that I built (never fired) that sat close to 20 years in my garage. All I did was prime the oil and fired it up. No issues at all. Ran like a top.

raustinss
03-28-2020, 06:42 AM
Maybe grab on of those lil bore scope cameras they now have fire it down the cylinders??? Cheap way to find out how the bores held up over the 15 yrs . Theres so many variables to this , was the engine covered, environment how clean was it , humidity in the air . Etc etc

TANKMASTERJ
03-28-2020, 07:15 AM
In agree with Bore scope. Surface rust bad for rings. Is it doable? Yes but why take a chance with hard earned cash. If I wanted to trust it and it was my toy I would pull the heads. What's a 100.00 set of top end gaskets for peace of mind

raustinss
03-28-2020, 11:01 AM
X2 nailed it , gaskets are cheap for the piece of mind either use a camera or pop the heads off and get a proper idea as to the condition of the bores, rings, pistons, valve stems etc

68Formula
03-28-2020, 02:52 PM
At first I was thinking," 15 years ago, was the LS1 even out? Wow, yeah 2005, so sure was." Time sure flies.

derekf
03-29-2020, 07:19 AM
Ok, thanks y'all.. so if I did get a new set of head gaskets (and the single-use head bolts) and I pull the heads and there's surface rust - then what, back to the machine shop? Contrariwise, if there's surface rust and I lube it up and run it - what's worst case, break a ring, scar the wall, and back to the machine shop?

TANKMASTERJ
03-29-2020, 08:05 AM
If surface rust take super fine steel wool or emery cloth soaked in oil and Polish it up, wipe clean and suck it out with a shop vac.
Broken ring or land is remotely possible but most like irregular ring wear and or lack of ring seating.
Pull the heads and check and or clean up.
Worth the time
Jason

derekf
03-30-2020, 04:07 AM
Thanks again. New head gaskets and head bolts in hand, will crack it open later this week.

Alwhite00
03-30-2020, 04:33 AM
A bore scope may save you from tearing it down if there are no issues.

derekf
03-30-2020, 04:54 AM
I'd thought so too, but my local auto parts stores don't have them as loaners.

I secretly suspect that yes, I'll have cleanup to do so I'm okay with this.

68Formula
03-30-2020, 04:12 PM
Amazon has 4mm-5.5mm lighted endoscope cameras that hook up to your smart phone via bluetooth for $20-$30.

badazz81z28
03-31-2020, 04:49 PM
Shoot oil down the bores, pressurized oil priming and it should be ok. As long as the environment wasn’t humid, it’s likely very nice inside.

mhotel1
06-21-2020, 07:52 AM
Late to this thread but I did almost the same thing, built an ls1 with new parts finished it ~2008-9, sat until last month...I had it out as I started working on the car again and went ahead and pulled the heads off over the same concern of rust and sitting. To my surprise the cylinder walls looked perfect, just like when they where finished. I also pulled the front oil galley plug on the front drivers side of the block and rigged up a pimp to prime it with all while spinning it....As long as walls where oiled right originally should be fine. Hopefully your experience was similar.