Just another 69 Camaro, DSE LS427 twin turbo

[classiccarcustoms]

Started working on my 69 Camaro again, Its been about 2 years.

Small list on what parts are here as of today.

-Car was taken down to metal.
-Rear spoiler was molded in and laid back.
-Rear bumper was hand built and pocket into the car.
-Side marker light shaved.
-Kindig-it door handles installed.
-Drip rails shaved.
-All factory body spot welds and normal imperfections smoothed.
-Firewall smoothed.
-Smoothed dash speaker grill.
-Body had been primed and blocked 6 times for show car finish.
-DSE mini tubs.


Now for the good stuff.

Engine & transmission:
-RHS LSX 427 all aluminum block.
-Callies dragon slayer crank.
-Callie Ultra rods.
-Wiseco custom billet forged turbo pistons.
-Mast motorsports heads built by LME to match.
-Titanium instake valves.
-Inconel Exhaust valves.
-8 pac racing valve springs.
-Rpm racing rocker arms with Smith brothers grunion kit.
-Smith Brothers push rods.
-ARP stud kit.
-GP tuning turbo cam.
-Billet timing chain.
-LME billet intake with dual injectors and dual electric throttle bodies.
-LME billet valve covers.
-Nelson 88 mm twin turbo.
-Blow off valve.
-Dome pressure sensors.
-60 m waste gates.
-Magnum T56
-Bullet proof scatter shield.
-McLeod Daul disc clutch kit.
-Billet flywheel.
-McLeod Clutch master cylinder.
-McLeod Clutch throw out bearing.
-Holley Dominator EFI module
-Holley dual injector driver module.
-Holley traction control module.
-Concept-One front pulls set up.
-Stainless work turbo headers.
-Custom 3" Stainless mandrel bent tightly welded exhaust all the way out the back.


Front suspension:
-DSE Hydroformed sub frame, powder coated and complete with coil over and rack and pinion steering, spline sway bar.

Rear suspension:
-DSE quadra link with dual adjustable coil overs.
-DSE sway bar.
-DSE rear tow hooks.
-Mosser 12 narrowed 12 bolt.

Brakes:
-Baer 6 piston front
-Baer 6 piston rear bakes with E-brake.
-Baer re master black master cylinder.
-Hot Rod shop Hydro boost kit.
-Hand built stainless steel lines.

Fuel:
-Ricks custom stainless tank, custom 3 Walbro 450 pumps camaro style module assembly.
-Stainless steel hand built lines.

Extra:
-DSE mini tubs
-DSE exhaust trunk clearance.
-DSE trunk fuel door.
-DSE floor spring pocket braces.
-DSE weld in sub frame connectors.
-Bowler raised transmission tunnel.
-Ring Brothers Billet hood hinges Air frame
-Ring Brothers billet trunk hinges.
-Ring Brothers billet door strikers.
-Ring brother black hood adjusters
-Billet black door sill plates
-Ring brother black billet door vents
-Custom Billet trunk latch.
-Eddie Motor sports billet tail lights.
-Sequential LED tail lights.
-American Auto wire car wire harness.
-NuRelic power windows.
-Ididit tilt steering column.
-Rain Gear hidden wiper kit.
-Vintage a/c kit.
-Vintage a/c 3 knob controller.
-New black stock dash gauge bezel.
-Budnik billet steering wheel.
-R/S front grill.
-American heart beat electric r/s headlight door conversion.
-Anvil carbon wiper cowl panel with vent delete.
-AutoRad complete aluminum radiator support with aluminum radiator, inner coolers.
-DSE radiator close out panel.
-Marquez Hand built front bumper.
-Forgeline wheels 19X12 rear 18X9 front
-Michelin Pilot sport tire.
-Clayton billet pedal assembly.
-Clayton drive by wire pedal assembly.
-Fesler front and rear flush mount glass kit. All body work done to fit the glass.
-New smoked side glass kit.
-All modules and coils are mounted inside the car on custom brackets.
-Dakota Digital HDX gauges.
-E-Stop Electric E-brake.
-LLC Shop rear package tray wrapped in black leather.
-LLC shop speaker box for DSE car.
-Billet trunk mounted battery bracket.
-Optima battery.
-American auto wire battery shut off and remote jumper leads.
-polished Billet R/S headlight door covers.
-New felts, seals, gaskets
-New door latch's
-Power trunk kit
-Billet ride billet left and right outer mirrors.
-Billet ride black billet inside rearview mirror.

Got the motor and trans mocked in there this weekend. Only took 3 times in and out.


I am still on the fence with LME dual throttle body, dual injectors with mirror 88mm twin turbo or Whipple Supercharger......

[classiccarcustoms]

Auto Rad Radiator installed. Transmission tunnel is cut out for TR6060, Bowler trans tunnel kit ready to get welded in.
Inner fender and front sheet metal this week.

Still not 100%, should I go Whipple super charger or Nelson twin turbo?
I bought both for this car.

[Senek67RS]

I really like the look of the Nelson mirror setup, personally.

[67427vette]

Who did you have do the body work and tub work?

[John McIntire]

That thing is going to a handful for sure! The Nelson set up is super nice and clean. The mirror image turbos keep everything symmetrical and his billet intake is very stealth looking with the integrated fuel rails and hidden injectors.

Have anymore pics of the Autorad setup?

[classiccarcustoms]

So got the turbos mounted and down pipes made.
Also got the DSE exhaust trunk cut outs installed.
DSE gas door installed.
Baer brakes installed.
I have to install the R/S grill to finish the rest of turbo piping.

[classiccarcustoms]

Got all the plumbing done for the turbos.

[classiccarcustoms]

Starting on the exhaust, turbos all done, front and rear brakes installed.
New twin disc clutch and T56 Magnum installed. I like the Holley T56 transmission cross member. Plenty of room for 3" exhaust. Fit great with DSE front clip.
Started wiring in Holley Dominator and also added thier traction control module.
Ricks tank is power coated and installed. Should be a running in a couple weeks.

[syborg tt]

Stunning engine bay and hell the rest of the car is just as nice.

[Pro Touring Store]

Looks amazing!!! Nice work.

[classiccarcustoms]

Steam lines all done

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[classiccarcustoms]

Almost ready to drive.
DSE sub frame connectors
DSE fuel access door.
DSE heavy duty floor pocket kits installed.
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[classiccarcustoms]

Wheels and tires finally arrived. Thank you Forgeline.
She is on the ground. Hope to start up next week.

[cwylie]

18 or 19 inch wheels?

[classiccarcustoms]

18 fronts
19 rears

[Senek67RS]

18 fronts
19 rears


I did the same thing, but there didn't seem to be many options for matching tires. Ended up going with Michelin Pilot SP2s to make it work.

[John McIntire]

Awesome! Looking real good!

I see you're using the Holley trans cross member on the DSE subframe. What motor mounts are you using and did you have any issues using it?

[classiccarcustoms]

Holley cross member worked out great with DSE frame and Magnum T56.
Engine mounts I bought DSE LS kit but I moved the engine back another 1.5” to make room for turbo piping.

[John McIntire]

DSE makes a mount kit to move the engine back 1.5 inches, which is what I have. Are you saying you moved the engine back another 1.5 inches, for a total of 3 inches? That would be pretty far back and would require some severe firewall mods based on what I see now with my 1.5 setback.

[Vimes]

Nice car, looks well thought out. How are you controlling the dual throttle bodies? Are they DBW or cable? I'm considering a very similar setup for my project, and one of the end pieces involved a turbocharged LS-based 427 with twin throttle bodies using this intake. (https://www.edelbrock.com/black-cross-ram-ls3-intake-manifold-71413.html) Hadn't figured a way to run a pair of DBW throttles this way. Mine will be a little more complicated because I have to run an automatic, and will be running at least a 6 speed auto, so I have to run the factory computer. And, have you had it running on the road yet? How's the power and response, and how quickly does it build RPM?

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
Throttle bodies are electric and both run to my Holley Dominator controller.

You can run a Holley and do a stand alone TCM for your transmssion and get all your input for trans off the CAN line?

[Vimes]

I sincerely hope that to be the case. I really want to do an LS3 based 427 backed by an 8 or 10 speed transmission. The new transmissions already have a standalone computer in them, they just need input from the ECM. A harness place claimed that the Gen 4 engine computer should be able to interface with a Gen 5 transmission and they were working on a harness to do just that, but they also said it's not working yet. I sent them an email and am waiting on a response. If their system can talk to the new transmissions then this system will solve all my problems. Otherwise I may be stuck with a 6 speed auto and a single throttle body.

Thanks for this, I'll post their response here either way.

EDIT - Well this sucks. They don't interface with anything beyond a 4 speed transmission. They don't even work with 6 speed autos. Oh well...

[214Chevy]

Nice work on the Camaro. Everything looks so sweet!!

[classiccarcustoms]

Went from a running car to all apart and off to paint in 7 hours. Sure wish it went together that fast.
Graphite gray with black Z 28 stripes
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[Just_a_69]

Who is painting the car and when do you expect the paint job to be completed?

Car looks great BTW

[berdunord]

what a nice build !

[classiccarcustoms]

I use a painter here in Santa Cruz area. 6-8 weeks.
We are painting top and bottom.

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
Yes had it running and on the road.
It's built so my wife can drive it, it's a beast.
Sent it to paint.
I have until Friday to pick the color.
-Lemas Blue with While Z28
-Hugger Orange with White Z28 stripes.
-Graphite Gray with black stripe.

Thoughts? I think I might sell the car.

[ICrombie]

Man that engine is a dream setup. Just out of curiosity why did you switch over to the T56 Magnum from the TR6060, ease of packaging the shifter?
My vote is for the graphite w/ black stripes

[Motown 454]

Wow I love this build! It must be rowdy when you hit the loud pedal. Beautiful job!

[classiccarcustoms]

After many hours under the car, I got the bottom sealed and tint-able bed liner body color sprayed on rotisserie.
Hope to paint firewall this week and then make the car a roller and paint the car soon.

[blown32]

You sure build some beautiful quality cars!
I'm partial to the gray and blue, but you can't go wrong with any of those three colors!

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
Should be painted and rolling again by the end of the week.
Since I went with gray I just ordered all new Black hinges and billet parts and will swap out the polished ones.

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
Should be painted and rolling again by the end of the week.
Since I went with gray I just ordered all new Black hinges and billet parts and will swap out the polished ones.

The day has finally come.
She is painted.
Now I am on the fence it looks so good solid color or should I add black Z28 stripes of black hokey stripe or leave it solid??
Any thoughts?
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[thumper877]

I wrestled with that on my car also. There are so many camaro with the stripes so I like the solid color. Sometimes I think the stripes take away from the color. That is a beautiful color

[John McIntire]

I would keep it all solid, and then experiment with any stripe you want using vinyl. You could change the look of your car every year!

Love the base color, can't wait to see it all assembled!

[Vimes]

Are you doing a cowl hood or a flat hood? SS stripe it with a cowl hood. No cowl, no stripes.

[classiccarcustoms]

I had to run a factory cowl hood.
I tried a flat or SS hood but it wouldn't clear the turbo piping.

I think leave it solid and if I want Black stripes down the road like suggested try them in vinyl.

I hope to wet sand out next week then re install motor and trans.
I am also changing all billet parts to black and will be selling all the polished parts.

[classiccarcustoms]

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[freeken]

That is some amazing work!!!

[97CAIVIAROSS]

Just went through the whole thread. That is one awesome build. Good luck with it. I vote for solid color. Everyone puts z28 stripes on them don’t do it!

Derek

[no_go nico]

bad azz all the way through! Who built the engine? I see the LME intake and some Mast heads... well done!

[classiccarcustoms]

Went by the body shop again.
Still waiting for wet sand and polish. Hope next week.
Looks pretty good straight out the gun.

[classiccarcustoms]

Motor and trans re install tune 183498183499183500183501183502

[no_go nico]

Is this at HRSC?

[classiccarcustoms]

Yes

[syborg tt]

This car keeps getting better and better.

Please keep the pics coming.

[classiccarcustoms]

A couple more 183605183606183607183608

[classiccarcustoms]

Engine and trans landed 183676183677183678183679

[97CAIVIAROSS]

Coming together nicely!

[cwylie]

Are those 4 little spot tacks going to be enough to keep those charge pipes on? I have seen it welded all the way around before to act as a flange but never just 4 small tacks. Just curious...... this thing is rather nuts why did you go with a wiggins clamp style setup?

[classiccarcustoms]

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[classiccarcustoms]

Baby steps. Got all engine and trans wiring harness re installed. All oil and drain back lines installed. Next is radiator support, charge tubes, exhaust. Hope to have her running this Friday.
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[JayBird]

Awesome job. What was the length of your housing including axles and rotor? What backspacing are you using.

thanks,
Jay

[classiccarcustoms]

Exhaust, fuel lines, gas tank, charge pies, all hooked up. Should be running Friday...
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[classiccarcustoms]

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Who is painting the car and when do you expect the paint job to be completed?

Car looks great BTW

Thank you
Dennis Body shop in Hollister CA

[no_go nico]

Beast mode!

[rv1890]

Awesome build! Hope its not rude to ask, but whats the cost on body and paint of that caliber at that place?

[97CAIVIAROSS]

Awesome update. You gotta get us a video of it running.

[classiccarcustoms]

Awesome build! Hope its not rude to ask, but whats the cost on body and paint of that caliber at that place?

I had done a lot of body/metal work before.
They did not shave anything, they did not pocket the bumpers.
I did all that and over 350 hours in that.

Paint and body was $29,000

[classiccarcustoms]

Brakes and brake lines all re installed.
All charge tubes painted and re installed.
Stainless mandrel bent Exhaust re installed.
Electric e brake installed.
Radiator hoses fabricated and installed.
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[Just_a_69]

Looks awesome. Can’t wait to see the finished product.

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
It should be running Sunday.
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[cwylie]

I gotta admit. I didn't like what the body mods looked like while in primer. Painted...... it looks amazing!

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
In person its amazing.
I am beating myself up right now over thinking my car.
Like:
-Billet power switchs (in the console or in the doors?)
-Wrap the dash in leather and if so, the whole dash to the front glass or just lower part?
-Inner door handles, what brand and style?
-Front seats? Avalon like my 61 Impala or 2014 camaro minus headrest and little more bolster ?
-R/S tail lights what style billet lenses and back up lights? I want billet back up lights, anyone have a extra set for sale?
-Front marker running lights, anyone have a billet set for sell?
-Add power locks? There is no outside key hole, and I never lock my cars, but someone might one day..

Any thoughts would be great.

[Senek67RS]

Thank you.
In person its amazing.
I am beating myself up right now over thinking my car.
Like:
-Billet power switchs (in the console or in the doors?)
-Wrap the dash in leather and if so, the whole dash to the front glass or just lower part?
-Inner door handles, what brand and style?
-Front seats? Avalon like my 61 Impala or 2014 camaro minus headrest and little more bolster ?
-R/S tail lights what style billet lenses and back up lights? I want billet back up lights, anyone have a extra set for sale?
-Front marker running lights, anyone have a billet set for sell?
-Add power locks? There is no outside key hole, and I never lock my cars, but someone might one day..

Any thoughts would be great.

1. I like them in the console, personally.
2. I just did the top in mine, but both look good. Just depends how custom on the dash you want to take it...
3. Still trying to figure that out myself haha
4. I like the 2014 Camaro seats
5. Not sure on the tail lights, but if you find an option for the backup lights in billet, please let me know. Same for the front.
6. I would add power locks simply if you go anywhere, park and go inside. Also, as you mentioned, if anyone else buys the car, they will more thank likely want door locks.

[classiccarcustoms]

Trunk is not closed all the way... just want to get that out of the way. OCD.

Ok
Power locks and keyless entry installed.
Digi-tail lights installed.
Power trunk also.
Now tail light dilemma
-Solid flush on driver side
-flush with bar on passenger side
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[Vimes]

They all look good, but between the three my preference would be the no bar shown above. The rear of the car has a simplistic, uncluttered look, and the no-bar looks like it was made to order for that car.

[no_go nico]

I like the passenger side rear lens.

[Senek67RS]

I like the driver side, just looks cleaner to me.

[dhutton]

Not a Camaro without the divider imho.

Don

[no_go nico]

Looks like charger tail lights without the divider. Garage is sick!

[rv1890]

They both look awesome, but Im leaning towards the solid ones (driver side) a bit more.

Are those the Marquez Design lights from Digitails? If so, did you get them recently? I keep asking Digitails and they tell me theyre not taking any orders for Marquez lights....

[classiccarcustoms]

The driver side light is from Eddie Motor sports.
The passenger side is Billet specialties
I have a set of Marquez 3d ones on order. I have about 3 of everything for this build. I have to see it on the car to decide.

[rv1890]

Sweet!. How did you place an order with Marquez? They haven't replied to any of my e-mails and they don't answer the number I find for them. Is there a secret club? lol

[classiccarcustoms]

I have his cell #. I live in CA also.
Plus my car will be at Sema this year and see if anyone wants to sponsor her.

[srode]

DS to me doesn't have the 69 look, the PS does. DS has the feel of a 67/68 to me.

[LUV2XLR8]

Keep the driver side and color match the trim bezel to the wheels.

[compos mentis]

DS to me doesn't have the 69 look, the PS does. DS has the feel of a 67/68 to me.

Agreed.

[97CAIVIAROSS]

I vote passenger side and make the billet bezel what ever you decide for window trim or other trim on the car.

[classiccarcustoms]

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Passenger side is it.
Side glass installed and sound dead.
Almost ready for interior

[classiccarcustoms]

Big thank you to Chris @ Fesler
Dash came quick and great quality.
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[classiccarcustoms]

Fesler gauge bezel all done and painted.
Dakota digital gauges installed.
Billet a/c vents.
Billet black a/c controller.
Blue wire automotive push button headlights added.
Blue wire automotive push button wipers added.
Blue wire billet power window buttons added
Viper 1 touch up and down power window module added.
Welded up factory ash tray and smoothed dash.
Almost ready for interior

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[Motown 454]

That dash looks great, big difference from the bare fiber glass. Which front seats did you finally go with, and what year? Did you do them? I love the way the car is looking.

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you, once I body worked the gauge bezel and painted it big transformation.
I am still fiberglassing and body working, fitting dash cap now.
Seats are Corbeau Sport. I bought there bolt in floor brackets. Fit and look great. Rear seat is stock just modified it from the DSE quadra link and mini tubs.
I am going to have all the seats re upholstered and I will have them remove the front headrest holes as well.
Just wanted to get everything working and pre-fit before she goes to interior.
Loading up this weekend for interior.
I will post some pictures outside before I load her up.

[Motown 454]

Thanks, I'll be watching for them.

[classiccarcustoms]

Finally got Marquez lower valance and billet rs door powder coated black.
Heartbeat RS module and complete assemblies installed and wired in.
HID headlights done as well.
Time to fit the grill.
Also going to look at making front driving lights.

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[classiccarcustoms]

Billet driving light 187806187807

[classiccarcustoms]

LLC shop rear package tray with Hertz 6x9s 188129188130188131

[Ausssie Nick]

This is an awesome build! I am currently building a twin turbo 67 Camaro. Can you let me know what intercoolers you are using. I love the look of the intercooler setup

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
I bought the completed radiator support, radiator, fans, intercooler and a/c condenser from AutoRad.

[classiccarcustoms]

Audison amps, custom sub woofer box built.
Stereo all wired in and tuned. Sounds amazing.
Everything was built to be hidden behind a full trunk and enclosure.
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[TANKMASTERJ]

Pardon me for not knowing, are you a custom car shop or you just building ba toys and then selling along the way. Because I've an more stellar looking craftsmanship come out of your PTF threads than a lot of shops. Man I'm impressed with you work.
Such a beautiful car. As w the nova, and other camaros and the bible top OMG

[TANKMASTERJ]

Bubble top sorry for the typos

[classiccarcustoms]

Thank you.
Just one man band building toys after work.

[classiccarcustoms]

OCD grill fitting. Take 7.
I think another 8-10 try’s.
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[classiccarcustoms]

Adding a little plastic to the corners to fit the fenders better.
Then I will trim it to fit perfect gap.
Almost there.

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[classiccarcustoms]

Anvil carbon fiber bumper
Take 1
I have a Marquez front bumper
Endura style front bumper and Anvil carbon fiber.
Going with Anvil first

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[Motown 454]

This should be fun to watch. lol I like that your fitting the grill it makes such a big difference.

[classiccarcustoms]

Before

And
After.
One side done.
One done I will prime, sand and paint putter grill body color.


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[Ausssie Nick]

This is an outstanding build great work! Can I ask where you are mounting your coils? I am also building a twin turbo first gen and am going insane trying to hide the coils as I really want to run billet Wegner valve covers. Keep up the great work!

[MTBSully]

Wow. Awesome build and attention to detail!

[classiccarcustoms]

This is an outstanding build great work! Can I ask where you are mounting your coils? I am also building a twin turbo first gen and am going insane trying to hide the coils as I really want to run billet Wegner valve covers. Keep up the great work!

Thank you.
Coils are mounted inside the car, I smoothed the dash speaker grill and they are all mounted in that location. 198169