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fish2keel
07-21-2019, 07:25 AM
Hey guys,

So I have been lingering around the group for several years and learning alot. At the same time, I have been working on my 1967 Ford Mustang Coupe. It started as a cheap rat rod build with a ford 302 and t5 but then quickly spiraled into what we have at the moment. The goal of the car is to bring together modern hot rodding with a semi budget and also just to build a car that can do everything. Plan is to take the car to the Texas mile and run 200 MPH. Below is some of the items on the car.

1967 Ford Mustang Coupe
1-3000 in color code Diamond Green

Engine:
Gen 3 5.7 Hemi from a charger
Forged 6.1 Crank
Mahle H beam Rods with ARP Studs
ARP hardware all around
Hellcat Cam
TR6060 from a Challenger
Percision Ls Turbo
Dual DW fuel pumps
Mega Squart Pro stand alone
92mm LS throttle body

Suspension:
Rack and pinion from a Nissan 240sx
Electric Power Steering mod
Open Tracker roller front suspension
C4 Corvette Dana 44 IRS
6 piston wilwood ultra light brakes on 13" Cobra Rotors- Front
Stock C4 Disc Brakes - Rear

Interior:
Wireless Dash
Bluetooth steering buttons for turn signals
Camaro Center Console
1966 Mustang Door Cards
MX5 Miata Seats
Rear view mirror from a Volvo

Exterior:
1 piece fiberglass front end
Clinched finder flares
Fiberglass deck lid
Custom underbody pan
Custom rear Diffuser
Custom front splitter
Shaved drip rails
Lexan rear and side quarter windows
Manual pull windows
Konig HyperGram 17x9 front and 18x9.5 rear

More to come guys! I hope this interest everyone, as I took inspiration from the builds here!

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GoodysGotaCuda
07-21-2019, 08:08 AM
Sounds like a party. What made you go with a Hemi versus sticking with a Ford engine?

fish2keel
07-21-2019, 08:12 AM
Sounds like a party. What made you go with a Hemi versus sticking with a Ford engine?

GoodysGottaCuda, Love your car! To answer your question though, when I think of hot rodding, the first thing that comes to mind is Hemi. I didnt want to worry about the strength of the engine with power and I also got the engine for 100 bucks. But more than anything I wanted something different. Ive always wanted a hemi and nothing beats a modern one.

fish2keel
07-21-2019, 09:11 AM
Here is how the car currently sits. This was 2 weeks ago, when we dropped the car on its wheels for the first time, to find out its current ride height, before we cut the front coils.

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Here is the Gen 3 Hemi in its final resting place. We moved the engine back several inchs from where the small block ford was. It only required some notching of the shock towers.

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fish2keel
07-21-2019, 09:14 AM
Goodbye old 8" ford straight axle!

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Hello C4 Corvette IRS! The IRS has since been painted with POR and is nice and clean. I need to find the new photos though. This was the original test fit and measurements, several months back.

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fish2keel
07-21-2019, 09:22 AM
First things first, the rear needed to be disassembled and cleaned, prior to receiving POR15.

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Then we mocked everything up to find out what needed to be cut and what brackets to build.

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I called QA1 to get them to put together a shock package for this unique build.

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I found out the rear shocks needed stand offs, so a friend and I designed and had these stand offs cut. They angle the rear shocks, needed to clear both the frame rail and also keep the shock nearly vertical.

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After POR and a set of custom brackets we made, here is the rear in the car.

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fish2keel
07-21-2019, 12:25 PM
For the front I went with open tracker everything. From the coils, to the roller perchs, to the upper and lowers. At the beginning of the build, I got a set of edlebrock red shocks, which currently are on the car. I know Ill need to upgrade these later on. It also has a 1" sway bar, also from open tracker. For suspension and mustang discussion, they have been a great company to work with!

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Here is a set of 13" cobra brakes on the front.

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In order to use wildwood 6 piston light weight brake calipers, custom brakets needed to be made and cut. A speed shop called "violetto Kustoms in Florida cut them for me. Great company to work with also!

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The rack is from a 240sx, with ISR lines and megan racing tie rods.

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fish2keel
07-21-2019, 12:34 PM
Now the engine! The block is a 2009 Gen 3 Hemi from a charger/ Chrysler 300. I got it up in Salem Ma for $100 bucks from an LS builder.

I found out of the short falls of the engine, that being the very weak pistons and rods.

No problem! Mahle pistons and rods, with a 6.1 forged crank and ARP everything should do the trick.

A local shop, Command Performance, well known for there crazy R35 GTR builds, did the engine build for me.

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TXCompositeENGR
07-21-2019, 06:13 PM
Looks like a fun project for sure! With that much power and speed what are you going to do with the front suspension besides coil/shock? Have you checked out any parts from Global West? You'll need beefy strut rods, especially to handle high-speed corners and the stock stuff is really flimsy.

Billf67
07-21-2019, 07:13 PM
Love the hodge podge of parts going into this build! Would love to see the looks on purist's faces when this thing is done tho lol.

fish2keel
07-22-2019, 04:32 AM
Looks like a fun project for sure! With that much power and speed what are you going to do with the front suspension besides coil/shock? Have you checked out any parts from Global West? You'll need beefy strut rods, especially to handle high-speed corners and the stock stuff is really flimsy.

Thanks, this is for sure a fun project, although at times, it is difficult. I have looked at global west, they make great stuff! I put together some adjustable strut rods with aluminum center sections, based off daze cars.

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Love the hodge podge of parts going into this build! Would love to see the looks on purist's faces when this thing is done tho lol.

Billf67, Thanks! Half the fun is the hodge podge parts. I cant wait for someone to see the car is 1-3000 and then to freak out. I just hope people realize its not a LS.

langleylad
07-22-2019, 09:58 AM
Did you look at the TCI front suspension kit for early model Mustangs/Cougars ?. I found that TCI's kit cost just a little bit more than you'll spend replacing all of the stock suspension/steering and braking components . Plus you lose the shock towers for more room for that Hemi and with the new crossmember and boxing plates it stiffens up the front end a ton !.

fish2keel
07-22-2019, 02:29 PM
Did you look at the TCI front suspension kit for early model Mustangs/Cougars ?. I found that TCI's kit cost just a little bit more than you'll spend replacing all of the stock suspension/steering and braking components . Plus you lose the shock towers for more room for that Hemi and with the new crossmember and boxing plates it stiffens up the front end a ton !.

Langleylad,

Good point! I did check them out. I already have everything purchased already, that is what is on the car now. That doesnt mean im opposed to finding better solutions.

Btw your cougar build is amazing!

fish2keel
07-23-2019, 02:55 PM
Does anyone have any concerns with the front suspension? I understand there are much much better systems, although the front is entirely new. I was looking for more information on a custom coilover that dazecars did a while back. I sent him an email, hopefully I get a response.

fish2keel
07-26-2019, 05:41 AM
So I got a response from Daze, very nice guy to deal with for information.

I am also looking into putting together an adjustable lower suspension similar to https://www.pacificthunderperformance.com/products/1967-1970-mustang-heavy-duty-adjustable-lower-control-arms-one-pair. Does anyone oppose to this?

langleylad
07-26-2019, 07:27 AM
Does anyone have any concerns with the front suspension? I understand there are much much better systems, although the front is entirely new. I was looking for more information on a custom coilover that dazecars did a while back. I sent him an email, hopefully I get a response.

You might want to add a shock tower brace to triangulate things for added strength . Tower to tower and tower to firewall on both sides.

fish2keel
07-27-2019, 05:53 AM
You might want to add a shock tower brace to triangulate things for added strength . Tower to tower and tower to firewall on both sides.

Langleylad, I actually have both a monte carlo bar and the shock tower brace, it just was uninstalled at times for engine placement and welding. Most of the car right now has been stitched welded as well.

andrewb70
07-27-2019, 06:13 AM
Looking forward to updates!

Andrew

fish2keel
07-27-2019, 10:40 AM
Waiting on rear caliper brackets to mount the rear disc brakes. I am also looking for a laser cutter to cut a few metal parts for the rear shock mounts, the ones previously designed were not sufficient with where the car will be going.

In the mean time, Ive been working on sanding the engine compartment to get it ready for some body work. I have also been researching a coil over system for the front and putting together a list to make adjustable lower control arms.

Has anyone on here done that?

Updates soon to follow though!

TEntem
11-25-2020, 07:56 AM
Looks good so far! Any pics of the viper hybrid IRS? Did you stay with the chevy bolt pattern?

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andrewb70
11-25-2020, 08:20 AM
More updates please!

Andrew

fish2keel
12-01-2020, 07:57 AM
More updates please!

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Sorry for not updating this sooner! This year has been a heck of a roller coaster. I had some family financial issues, which caused the build to go onto the back burner and then I moved from New England to Florida a little over a month ago, as my mother was diagnosed with cancer earlier this year, which put the car even further back in progress.

With all that in mind, prior to moving, we actually made a good amount of movement on the car.

I will upload photos later today(I'm at work as of writing this update) but the car received rear QA1 single adjustable coil overs. I also traded out the C4 Dana 44 rear and went the slightly beefier 2002+ Dodge Viper IRS center section with C4 Corvette IRS half shafts. Which switch of center sections & batwings, caused me to look into the frame rails. I was unhappy with the stock frame rails and decided to upgrade. I called S&W racing in Pennsylvania and they had a section of frame rails in stock, along with 4 link brackets as well in stock that would fit my needs with a little cutting. The frame rails and brackets are in the car and I must say, I don't want to put sheet metal over it, it came out perfect!

With regards to the hemi, I have been playing with 3D print outs of log manifold setups and found out I needed a different timing cover(from car to truck). I was able to find one and received that but need to get it blasted and painted, then bolt it up.

Moving forward, I am working with QA1 on the rear suspension setup and start work on the turbo piping for the front.

andrewb70
12-01-2020, 08:01 AM
We need more pictures!

Andrew

ryeguy2006a
12-01-2020, 12:48 PM
We need more pictures!

Andrew

Agreed.