F&F Mustang

[Matt]

Supposedly it's from the next movie... But uhh..I dunno about this.

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yup, a mustang with volk wheels and a Nissan RB26DETT (skyline motor)

[CAMAROBOY69]

Hmm that would be interresting. It would be awesome to see a 67 Fastback in the next movie since they had a 69 Camaro in the last one. This is the car I thought they were putting in F&F 3..
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[JoshStratton]

LOL I hope that dude who was complaining about people putting non-original engines in their cars sees this.

[andrewb70]

They sure as hell ripped the soul out of that car. :smoke:

Andrew

[CAMAROBOY69]

If this is true I hope they do something creative with the exhaust. Otherwise it is just not going to sound right. I have nothing against swapping engines but why I dont think I can stomach this one.

[69Nova]

That cars is definatly a beater. But I have to say if that cars was built right and if it had AWD that would be crazy.

[gchandler]

That engine is out of a Nissan Skyline.

[TonyL]

well, it sertainly looks banged up. and why is the motor leaning over like that?

Oh. and before you go nuts as to why anyone would do such a thing. A skyline motor can make about 1600 hp. Judging by the turbo it probably makes half that. and doesnt weigh very much. So perhaps thats the reasoning. And for the life of me, I cant see why more of our cars dont have japaneze wheels on them.

[B Cichocki]

I think the more pertinent issue here is: WHY IN GOD'S NAME do we need another Fast and Furious crapfest? :hmm: I mean, seriously, what's the point? I've been getting a feeling that the ricerboy movement is on a downward slide anyway...

-Brian

[TonyL]

im betting SEMA has something to with it. These movies sell cars and parts. sure they suck. But they are just one and a half hour commercials. Like it or not, it brings car culture to the forefront. And that aint bad, it'll equal more parts being made, prices dropping ect. the only downside is that if kids start thinking our cars are "ricey" and start snapping them up, there will be less of them to go around. The other downside is that these movies marry cars and crime together.

[JohnnyGMachine]

You know that is just ridiculous! I 4-cam 4.6 blown Cobra motor woulda been waaaaay cooler than that and you could put a 2.5 Kenne Bell on a 4.6 and make crazy horsepower!!!

I definately won't be in that movie line.

John

[JoshStratton]

...possibly trying to create a new car movement? It is kind of like taking PT with classic cars to a different next level (not saying it is good or bad). It was the next logical step after big brakes, turbos/supers, and blingy wheels.

[TonyL]

take into account this movie is shot in tokyo. the car would have been modified there, by what they had available. so it makes way more sense.

[6'9"Witha69]

All this does is bring some false justification to the ricers that American engines are heavy, inefficient and slow. Not true today but will cause even more of those ricer boys to rev up on us at the stoplight. [hangs head in shame]

[Gonzostyle]

they could put a Type R emblem on the car........

[andrewb70]

All this does is bring some false justification to the ricers that American engines are heavy, inefficient and slow. Not true today but will cause even more of those ricer boys to rev up on us at the stoplight. [hangs head in shame]

Well guys have been sticking V8s into Japanese cars for years. What goes around comes around. I just pray its wicked fast.

Andrew

[6'9"Witha69]

Well guys have been sticking V8s into Japanese cars for years. What goes around comes around. I just pray its wicked fast.

Andrew
Yeah, and for good reason! Jags, Miatas, MGs, RX7s etc. have all rec'd V8s. It seems totally backwards with what they've done here.

[andrewb70]

Yeah, and for good reason! Jags, Miatas, MGs, RX7s etc. have all rec'd V8s. It seems totally backwards with what they've done here.

So what exactly is the objection? The fact that it is a not a V8, or the fact that it is an engine of Japanese origin?

Andrew

[Blown353]

That would look cool next to the Chevelle with the Toyota 2JZ-GTE in it (unfortunately I can't find his webpage right now) or the guy from Banks building a Nova with a 2JZ-GTE in it.

Granted it may be fast but it just wouldn't sound right.

[6'9"Witha69]

Pretty much. I know it looks cool and all. OOOH Turbos! OOOHH Skyline motor! I have no problem with swapping what will work best, but disgracing vintage iron with import power?!?! It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up! This is similar to the brand loyalty expressed in other threads, but is more a generic knowledge that the V8 is dominant. It is like a step backwards. So they can make 1600 hp. Great. What about torque? That is definitely needed to motivate ~3500 lbs. I know ricers with 700 hp and 300 lb/ft. goes good at the top of the band but the power curve looks like a cliff! Like I said it makes the punk ricers feel falsely vindicated to see it and that really bugs. Personal taste I suppose. Hell, engine swapping is part of the evolution and history of hot rodding. Maybe I am being contradictory/hypocritical with that statement.

[andrewb70]

Pretty much. I know it looks cool and all. OOOH Turbos! OOOHH Skyline motor! I have no problem with swapping what will work best, but disgracing vintage iron with import power?!?! It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up! This is similar to the brand loyalty expressed in other threads, but is more a generic knowledge that the V8 is dominant. It is like a step backwards. So they can make 1600 hp. Great. What about torque? That is definitely needed to motivate ~3500 lbs. I know ricers with 700 hp and 300 lb/ft. goes good at the top of the band but the power curve looks like a cliff! Like I said it makes the punk ricers feel falsely vindicated to see it and that really bugs. Personal taste I suppose. Hell, engine swapping is part of the evolution and history of hot rodding. Maybe I am being contradictory/hypocritical with that statement.

So from the sound of it, it seems like the big objection is that it is not a V8. So then a V8 of Japanese origin would have been OK?

Andrew

[elcamino80]

Well I guess the Japanese feel the same way then when you stick your heavy V8's in a light Japanese car...

A Mustang with 4WD and 1000hp+ would sound pretty cool to me. I don't know if thats the case though

[TonyL]

For those that have never seen what one of these motors can do veiw the movies here

http://www.exvitermini.com/movies.htm

the car makes 1380 hp. is driven on the street and has run 8 second quarter mile times.
not too shabby. Aussies are cool.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

To each his own with the motor and the wheels. I mean, the wheels aren't that bad, and those motors can make some insane power. BUT--- this is just utter irreverence:

[Nine Ball]

Its the next big fad: "Pro-Tourice"

Take an American pony/musclecar and install your favorite import engine and single tailpipe. :)

[Travis B]

To each his own with the motor and the wheels. I mean, the wheels aren't that bad, and those motors can make some insane power. BUT--- this is just utter irreverence:

good eye...I didn't even spot that

[Ralph LoGrasso]

good eye...I didn't even spot that

It's the first thing my eyes were drawn too. The infamous 5" fart can exhaust. I lament...

I heard a while back on another forum that the new F&F movie was going to be all about drifting? I can just imagine how many freshly licensed 16 year olds, will be attempting to drift their FWD Civics around the neighborhood streets..

[6'9"Witha69]

So from the sound of it, it seems like the big objection is that it is not a V8. So then a V8 of Japanese origin would have been OK?

Andrew
Not really. Hell it bugs me when I get repo parts made in china. I guess I am just closed minded to the idea. I like american power in american cars. Like I said, logically it is hypocritical for me to say based on my previous statements, but I do have to draw the line somewhere.I guess I have dealt with so many closed minded ricers that I too have become closed minded. Hard to admit. Maybe I need to open up a little myself. Even so, that engine in that car would have been my last choice.

[DeepBlue68]

Oh no...I didn't even see the fart can. That is where I draw the line.

Japanese wheels on American muscle cars? Fine.
Being innovative with American iron and Japanese engines? Not my cup of tea, but okay.
Putting a fart can on one of the most notable 60's era muscle cars? Simply unacceptable.

I know there's nothing that can be done about it, and to each his own, but that is shameful IMO. There is absolutely no way I would support that movie by seeing it in theatres, renting/buying it, etc. Not to mention that the stupidity of F&F 1 was surpassed only by F&F 2. So I can't even imagine what the third one will be like.

[6'9"Witha69]

It's the first thing my eyes were drawn too. The infamous 5" fart can exhaust. I lament...

I heard a while back on another forum that the new F&F movie was going to be all about drifting? I can just imagine how many freshly licensed 16 year olds, will be attempting to drift their FWD Civics around the neighborhood streets..
I remember being a freshly licensed 16 year old. I was doing donuts in my '66 roadstain! I don't condone it. But I understand.


PS: "roadstain" is a term I use for MY old Mustang as it was always breaking down on the side of the road. It truly was Found On Roadside Dead. Many times. Not intended as a generalized statement about Mustangs.

[CHILI442]

So what exactly is the objection? The fact that it is a not a V8, or the fact that it is an engine of Japanese origin?

Andrew

The fact that it is an engine of Japanese origin. Whoever did that needs a good kick in the nutsack! That's a disgrace to an American Icon! (at least Classic)

[Matt]

I figured ya'll would like that.

haha

[Foudie]

I can not lend this car my stamp of approval until it is completed with a "POWERED BY NISSAN" sticker. Prefferably in japanese lettering.

[Gonzostyle]

Funny, I had seriously considered putting S50/S52 (E36 M3 motors) engine in my 63 Nova. Since it is a Bimmer motor would that have made me euro-rice????

Oh and I would have been swapping a 6 for a 6. I thought it would be cool to pop the hood and see M POWER on the valve cover. The cost of the S50/52 is what prevented me from doing it. An SBC is by far cheaper, but it just makes me another SBC in a Nova guy... nothing extraordinary about that.....

On the Mustang the exhaust is what kills it for me. Otherwise I like it, why be like everyone else? Making people scratch theirs heads is fun!!!

-Jeremie

[Restomod]

If this had been built by a regular guy from Japan I would go along with it.There was a guy on Stangnet from Bangkok that had a Coupe with a Tubo Supra engine,6 speed,big TT's ect......he made due with a power plant he could get. That is the only way I see that this would be cool.............................................. ...................................
BTW the engine lays over for hood clearance in the Skyline....also Matt where did you get the pics????

[Damn True]

IMO it seems in keeping with the original ethos of hot-rodding (except the single fartcan exhaust....that's gotta go). Light car, light engine, lotsa power yeeehaaa!

As for the synthesis of Asian & US marque parts....bahoooey, no big deal. Besides, how much of your newest US made ride is metric? You think that stuff is US made?


The real problem, as stated above is that there is going to be another steaming pile-o-dung F&F movie. Nobody needs that.

[WS6]

i dig it but they should seriously loose the big muffler.

[andrewb70]

Here is an interesting conversation on another forum:

BMWs...engines...souls.. (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450613)

Seems that for every make of car, there is a group of loyalists that will defend their brand to the end.

Andrew

[gchandler]

The story behind the car:

The main character of the film crashes his skyline and his uncle gives him the old mustang. He takes the driveline and rims from his ruined car and puts them into the mustang so that he can "save the day" by beating someone in a drift off.



I personally liked the first film. The second was ok, too music video for my tastes. I think that the third could go either way.

[vanzuuk1]

The term "drift off" is great, reminds me of the "walk off" in zoolander.

Ralph , you and I are buddies, but I think your logic is flawed when you talk about the f+f movies. You said previously that they shouldnt make those movies because it promotes unsafe driving, but we talked about how great dukes of hazzard,gumball and blues brothers were. Whats the difference? If i misunderstood you let me know, but do you see my point?

Dont get me wrong, I thought the fast and the furious SUCKED.

[Matt]

heh, drift off reminds me of jerk off....but whatever right.

I found the pics on the subaru board, which, even though my subie is gone, is still a very entertaining forum.

[ProTeal55]

That car is def. different.
If it handles, stops, and makes lots of power it is
cool in my book. Not something I would do , but still cool.

The fart can has got to go, I do agree on that. As well as all the F+F movies are not even worth a rental..

I can't wait untill a 16 year old kid in his mom's infinity "drifts" into me at a stoplight....

[formula]

i for one think it's almost cool. the exhaust makes me want to punch someone in the face, the wheels look too big, and just about any v8 would have been cooler, but I'm diggin the raggedy, cobbled-together look.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

The term "drift off" is great, reminds me of the "walk off" in zoolander.

Ralph , you and I are buddies, but I think your logic is flawed when you talk about the f+f movies. You said previously that they shouldnt make those movies because it promotes unsafe driving, but we talked about how great dukes of hazzard,gumball and blues brothers were. Whats the difference? If i misunderstood you let me know, but do you see my point?

Dont get me wrong, I thought the fast and the furious SUCKED.

You're right, and I suppose my logic is a bit flawed and hyprocritical. I think I should've added a smiley into my original post, because it wasn't meant to be a statement, but more of a sarcastic comment (I was going to add the rolleyes smiley, but we don't have the old one anymore). It's so damn hard to tell tone over the internet, lol.

However, just for arguements sake-- I think the main difference between the movies you listed and the F&F is the target audience. I mean, how many kids watched the dukes of hazzard, and tried to jump their car over a bridge on the way home from the movies? Probably not many, since most of them drove to the theater in their Civics and Integras, rather than Chargers. But, how many kids watched the original fast and furious, saw these cars (that are similar to their own) racing down populated city streets at 140mph (which from the camera angles looked like about 700mph :lmao: ) and decided to try it on their way home?

Like I said, though, you make a valid point, and I understand it; my logic is definitely a bit flawed and more so hyprocitical, as I do not drive like a perfect citizen by any means, so I'm really not one to comment.

[TonyL]

man, i wish i had the pic of my friends and i jumping railroad tracks in our duster in high school. lol. Poor car.

[Kenova]

man, i wish i had the pic of my friends and i jumping railroad tracks in our duster in high school. lol. Poor car.
.......or running over garbage cans :lmao: :lmao: ................. or donuts on a cop's front yard............. or knocking snowbanks back into the driveway as the old guy is just going back into the house............ or......... :smoke:
Ken

[vanzuuk1]

I used to watch mad max with my friend marcus and then we would get on our bikes...

Used to try and jump cars but they never seemed to land correctly. Still have a scar.

Plenty of guys I grew up with did the "high speed through traffic" thing and people died as a result. If I were a cop I would be pretty lenient on a guy doing donuts in a vacant lot with no one around.

[vanzuuk1]

Gsxrken met marcus, marcus was a british dude but he could have been a character in mad max. Came to high school with a rat in his leather jacket and rode a ratty kawasaki z1r 1000.

[blackbeast]

I mean, how many kids watched the dukes of hazzard, and tried to jump their car over a bridge on the way home from the movies? Probably not many, since most of them drove to the theater in their Civics and Integras, rather than Chargers.

i dont' know about anyone else, but everytime i fly around a corner, or nearly fly over a pair of old railroad tracks by my house and someone (usually my girlfriend) tries to complain, i tend to blame it on the dukes of hazzard. Hell, even the A-team van did some pretty neat stunts

[Gonzostyle]

Andrew, you picked a particularly rabid bunch of BMW enthusiasts. E30 M3 owners typically go crazy if you put something other than the factory 4 cylinder in the car. I have been thinking about setting a Nissan motor in mine and taking a few pictures to send to the E30 SIG (special interest group). I love my M, but a 4 cylinder that cost me over 6K to rebuild.... with me doing all the labor..... I should have just put an LS1 in it (they fit...)

-Jeremie

[Damn True]

Id love to have an M3 with a turbo buick v-6 or a Nissan 350z motor in it.

[THX 138]

Id love to have an M3 with a turbo buick v-6 or a Nissan 350z motor in it.M3 + LS2 = sex