Oil pan for 67 camaro/ls3 with rack and pinion...

[redbull396]

What oil pan provides clearance I need for stock 67 camaro stock sub frame w/ rack and pinion steering? Was looking at Speedtech ls swap kit, seems pretty dang pricey tho, and you have to get a remote oil filter unit for additional $400.
I'm guessing motor mounts would be a key part as well for clearance. What is everyone else using for pan and mounts with a set up like this? Thanks!

[badazz81z28]

Do you have a picture of the set-up? I would imagine a Holley or 98-02 pan would fit.

[dhutton]

Front or rear steer rack? If it’s not too late don’t use a rack conversion. You won’t find many of those setups on this forum.

Don

[redbull396]

I’ll get a pic and post up later when I get home. It’s a rear tho.
The guy helping me with my suspension talked me into it, but now he’s mia and I’m trying to finish what he had intentions of doing.

[redbull396]

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[Z06vet]

I'm with Dhutton- you are at a point where it would be easy to remove the rack, sell it, and go with a quality quick ratio steering box like turn one, agr, lee mfg, etc. Run the holley mounts/headers/pan/crossmember. You will be very pleased with the ease of installation, performance/handling, and smooth highway operation.

[CSG]

I agree with ditching the rack but if not then I would check with speedtech as they sell a kit that looks like what I see in your pic

[redbull396]

I don't have a problem doing that. Might be cheaper than going the Speedtech route as well. Could recoup some $$ by selling the rack.

What are some good steering set up kits that yall recommend? I'm a complete novice at this stuff. Sorry for the noob questions. Thanks!

[btmatt]

We used Autokraft oil pan and dirty dingo slider mounts for ls3 and unisteer rack in 67 Camaro subframe. Works great.

[redbull396]

We used Autokraft oil pan and dirty dingo slider mounts for ls3 and unisteer rack in 67 Camaro subframe. Works great.

How was the clearance? How far did the pan hang below the frame/ and rack? Thanks.

[badazz81z28]

Why are you all so much against the rack? So much warning to sell it, now who would buy it with this much caution?

[dhutton]

Why are you all so much against the rack? So much warning to sell it, now who would buy it with this much caution?

Generally the geometry on the retrofit racks is poor. Bump steer etc is bad. You will get better performance with a Turn One 600 steering box. There are several threads here that you can search for. The Unisteer racks have a reputation for developing leaks with poor warranty support...

Don

[spacepirate]

Maybe check into Mast Motorsports oil pan. I'm using theirs on my 68 with a DSE subframe but should work with your setup too.

[2yellow69]

I have the rack setup from Unisteer. I used the Holley 302-2 pan with Speedtech frame stands (220504), Speedtech Ls1 adapters (ATS70001) and engine mounts from Speedtech (220530). Musclerodz/Hedman midlength headers (45060). Clearance is VERY tight between the block and banjo fittings for the rack. I used a LQ4 iron block so I don't know if it'll be different with an aluminum block. Do I like my setup? I honestly don't know. The car has been in pieces for 10 years although I'm just about done!!! When some warmer weather comes back I only need a few weeks of working on it to get that first drive!

[btmatt]

The pan does not hang below the cross member. Clearance is tight; we used bbc frame stands to move the block from the banjo fittings. Speed tech adjustable transmission cross member ties it all together. Stainless works headers and unisteer bbc linkage round it out.

The setup works well. In fact speedtech used it on their 1st gen subframe and conversion kits for years. There is a lot of bad press in the forums from a few that could not figure it all out and it took us a while to get it done. Is it a simple bolt in like Holley, ridetech, etc.? No. Can it be made to work well? Yes

[redbull396]

Thanks for the info. The rack I have is from speedtech.

[dhutton]

The pan does not hang below the cross member. Clearance is tight; we used bbc frame stands to move the block from the banjo fittings. Speed tech adjustable transmission cross member ties it all together. Stainless works headers and unisteer bbc linkage round it out.

The setup works well. In fact speedtech used it on their 1st gen subframe and conversion kits for years. There is a lot of bad press in the forums from a few that could not figure it all out and it took us a while to get it done. Is it a simple bolt in like Holley, ridetech, etc.? No. Can it be made to work well? Yes
Pretty sure Speedtech positions the rack differently than Unisteer to improve the geometry. At least I recall Blake stating that was the case. Their subframe was designed around the rack versus trying to attach it to a stock subframe.

Curious what you think you gained with a rack versus a performance 600 steering box.

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Thanks for the info. The rack I have is from speedtech.


Do you have a Speedtech subframe? Responses here were geared to a rack conversion on a stock subframe.

Don

[redbull396]

Pretty sure Speedtech positions the rack differently than Unisteer to improve the geometry. At least I recall Blake stating that was the case. Their subframe was designed around the rack versus trying to attach it to a stock subframe.

Curious what you think you gained with a rack versus a performance 600 steering box.

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Do you have a Speedtech subframe? Responses here were geared to a rack conversion on a stock subframe.

Don

Stock frame. Have all speedtech arms, coil overs and rack, with afx spindles.

[dhutton]

Stock frame. Have all speedtech arms, coil overs and rack, with afx spindles.

Didn’t know they offered an add on rack. It’s not on their website but I noticed they are now selling 600 steering boxes. Anyway it sounds like you got the answers you needed regarding oil pan options. As far as I know Autokraft pan is same dimensions as the Speedtech pan without the remote oil filter.

Don

[redbull396]

Didn’t know they offered an add on rack. It’s not on their website but I noticed they are now selling 600 steering boxes. Anyway it sounds like you got the answers you needed regarding oil pan options. As far as I know Autokraft pan is same dimensions as the Speedtech pan without the remote oil filter.

Don

Well, you are correct, they don’t have one listed, but the rack I have is the one pictured on the steering page. Odd! It’s the same as the right hand drive rack, but for normal side.

[dhutton]

Well, you are correct, they don’t have one listed, but the rack I have is the one pictured on the steering page. Odd! It’s the same as the right hand drive rack, but for normal side.

That is a Unisteer rack. Check out their website.

Don

[btmatt]

[QUOTE=dhutton;1286737]. Curious what you think you gained with a rack versus a performance 600 steering box?

Nothing really. I was in the same boat as the original poster. Dad bought the rack and began installation before we got the car and threw away all the old stuff. Honestly it was a pain to get everything to fit; we bought and returned lots of parts to find a combo that worked.

All I hope to do is provide information to help the poster with his decision. Matt

[redbull396]

[QUOTE=dhutton;1286737]. Curious what you think you gained with a rack versus a performance 600 steering box?

Nothing really. I was in the same boat as the original poster. Dad bought the rack and began installation before we got the car and threw away all the old stuff. Honestly it was a pain to get everything to fit; we bought and returned lots of parts to find a combo that worked.

All I hope to do is provide information to help the poster with his decision. Matt

Certainly appreciate the info as well. As you, all my factory stuff has been tossed in the trash. The guy that was orig helping me on my build, is a guy that knows what he's doing for the most part, but has since dropped off the face of the earth, and here I am trying to put together pieces to a puzzle he created.

As for the Autokraft and Speedtech pans, they are VERY close to same specs, some slight variances, but pretty damn close over all.

[72Z/28]

I know it is a very old thread but I wanted to comment on this issue, which is very frustrating. My opinion on Unisteer Rack& Pinion is that they are junk because of the following reasons:

1) They tend to leak even if they are new and have only a few miles on them.
2) There is very minimum thread engagement between inner & outer tie rods ( inner tie rods are not long enough to maintain thread engagement of 1”.
3) I have Speedtech Subframe and wish they designed their subframe to utilize a different steering rack. There is a very tight clearance between Autokraft oil pan and the rack mounting bolt. So in order to remove the rack, you need to jack up the engine to have access to the bolt with your wrench.

[TANKMASTERJ]

My speedtech front subframe is assembled but not under my car. I mocked up and removed. Car is in paint jail. I'll definitely check out the thread engagement on my inner and outer tie rod ends..
I used mast Motorsports stroker oil pan on my LS7 and it fits superb. I'm using dirty dingo slider mounts.