67 mustang front suspension

[Razzor67]

Hi all
I’m starting a saved project. A 67 Ford Mustang FB. Engine and transmission are built but I need some opinions on the front suspension. I don’t care for the OEM suspension and was thinking of mustang11 or something else with better handling. Anyone have an opinion on this
I would love to hear about it.
thanks Ray

[andrewb70]

SO MANY OPTIONS!!!

I guess the first question is what is your budget?

Second questions is, what do you want to do with the car?

Andrew

[Razzor67]

It’s going to be a driver. Small block ford with a blower, fuel injected. I haven’t decided what to spend on it yet. I guess it depends on what I’m buying.
Ray

[dhutton]

Detroit Speed for the win imho. Alumaframe and quadralink.

https://www.detroitspeed.com/1964-5-1970-mustang-front-suspension

https://www.detroitspeed.com/1964-5-1970-mustang-rear-suspension

Don

[Razzor67]

I like the layout of the rear suspension not so much the front. It’s looks a little overbuilt for a street machine.
Ray

[andrewb70]

Ray,

If you want to do a basic Mustang 2 suspension, there are about a dozen options. However, there are better options for better performance. The Mustang 2 front end is not exactly designed for handling. There are also many options for bolt in options available from Ridetech, etc..

Andrew

[Razzor67]

I used the Ridetech suspension both front and rear on my 67 Camaro. Is there something in particular you like about there front end?
Ray

[andrewb70]

Their control arms fix the geometry issues...fix the goofy strut rod link...and they have amazing shocks.

[Razzor67]

Thanks I’ll look at what they have a little closer. What did you use on your Cougar? I know it’s probably on here but I really don’t get a lot of time to read the various posts. Too many projects and not enough time.
Ray

[andrewb70]

I used TCP. In retrospect, I wish I would have used a clip that got rid of the shock towers. I want to do a turbo, but the shock towers are not helpful. Both Schwartz and Roadster Shop have full chassis as well.

Andrew

[Razzor67]

I’m not familiar with the last two you mentioned. I’ll check there websites and see what they have. I have
A 67 Cougar to do one of these days. Hopefully before I die of old age. I’m almost finished with the Camaro and working on a 58 Apache at the same time.
Ray

[Craig510]

Check out Mike Maier Inc. They have several levels of kits and use JRi shocks which are arguably the best and can be upgraded later. With a Shelby drop the factory spindle geometry and control arm lengths are pretty darn good and result in excellent handling.

https://mikemaierinc.com/product-category/front-suspension/

Stay away from Mustang2 (Pinto) stuff unless you don't want to push it very hard. The spindle geometry is poor so the handling is always going to suffer. Also many MII kits have horizontal slots for camber adjustment and will slip when pushed hard (even on the street) with anything larger than a 225mm tire.

[1bad68cat]

I agree with Andrew, the mustang II is not the best, but it can be improved to provide better camber gain and such. If all you are looking for is better handling than stock on a budget, lower the upper control arms aka Shelby/Arning drop, throw some 620 1" drop springs with good shocks. larger front sway bar, and new mid or reverse eye leaf springs w/ good shock in the back and you'll be way ahead already. If there is more room for budget, here's a few more to add to the already mentioned companies: Open tracker Racing; Global West Suspension; Street or Track.

http://www.globalwest.net/mustang-1967-1968-1969-1970-suspension-steering-brakes-rearends-column-global-west-suspension.html

http://streetortrack.com/

http://opentrackerracing.com/product-category/shop-by-year/1967-mustang/

[Razzor67]

I'm not sure what I want to budget for this project. I put about 20k into the suspension of my Camaro and I'm pleased with how it handles. This Mustang has been sitting for many years waiting for the time to work on it. I'm looking for anything that is better than what it has. I purchased it 20 years ago and let it sit because of all the other projects. Now it's time for the research and see what's available. I'm asking
Questions on here because I'm sure someone out there has tried just about everything on the market.
I know that a lot has been developed in the years but I don't want the trial and error issues that can come with but the biggest and baddest instead of what works for my needs. So once more everyone's
Opinion is important to me. The more I can look at the better.
Thanks Ray

[andrewb70]

I'm not sure what I want to budget for this project. I put about 20k into the suspension of my Camaro and I'm pleased with how it handles. This Mustang has been sitting for many years waiting for the time to work on it. I'm looking for anything that is better than what it has. I purchased it 20 years ago and let it sit because of all the other projects. Now it's time for the research and see what's available. I'm asking
Questions on here because I'm sure someone out there has tried just about everything on the market.
I know that a lot has been developed in the years but I don't want the trial and error issues that can come with but the biggest and baddest instead of what works for my needs. So once more everyone's
Opinion is important to me. The more I can look at the better.
Thanks Ray

Ray,

I completely understand your point of view. However, I think what you will find is that everyone that chimes in will say that whatever they have is the best. In marketing we call this confirmation bias. From an economics perspective, this makes sense, because individuals have subjective value. Everyone has their own perceptions of what is important to them and their specific circumstance.

Sorry for the rant, but in short, I think the best you can hope for is explore all of the available options, and see what suits YOUR needs best. It may turn out that an inexpensive MII system will work just fine for you...

Andrew

[IMPALA MAN]

I always loved that year of Mustang, just not the factory suspension...lol
I have included a link that takes you directly to the page that displays the Ridetech C/O Suspension. https://www.ridetech.com/products/suspension-packages/product-3294/
This second link shows all of the additional products and options we offer for your Mustang https://www.ridetech.com/applications/musclecars/1964-1970-mustang/?features_hash=13-255 Best of luck on the build and shout if I can help!

[Razzor67]

Thanks for the input. A big part of what I'm fishing for is just what I'm getting now. Sources for the various designs available at this point. I value the many opinions simply because I don't have the time to chase down all this information. I will look at each of the retailers and get the one that fits my needs. I also like to check out the negative comments on each item. It makes it cheaper for me.
Thanks Ray

[andrewb70]

This might be helpful as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvxH-zq-Ls

Andrew

[jaybee]

Unless you have a significant budget of over $2000 for parts on this portion of the project you are probably just as well off with Export Brace, Monte Carlo Bar, one of the several types of replacements for the original rubber strut rod bushings, roller spring perches, lowering springs, good shocks, an uprated sway bar, and a Shelby/Arning drop.

[Craig510]

Please check out the Mike Maier Inc stuff (not Maier Racing). They have a really nice lower control arm with strut rod. That piece with a set of Bilstein shocks and a shelby drop will get you 95% of the way there. After that, you can upgrade to coilovers with the upper arm kit. This way you can spread out the cost and enjoy the car. The spherical bearings in the lower control arm and a good alignment are the number 1 things to improve the performance of a Mustang.

[rickpaw]

Detroit Speed for the win imho. Alumaframe and quadralink.

https://www.detroitspeed.com/1964-5-1970-mustang-front-suspension

https://www.detroitspeed.com/1964-5-1970-mustang-rear-suspension

Don


I like the layout of the rear suspension not so much the front. It’s looks a little overbuilt for a street machine.
Ray

I would go with DSE if you can swing it. Even though the front looks overkill, it will be necessary on the street when you hit pot holes/speed bumps etc... Just my $0.02.

I put a DSE front/Ridetech rear set up in my buddy's 65 Fastback. He drove it stock for over 20 years, and said the new suspension is a huge improvement. Reason we didn't go with DSE rear was that he did not want to use the 9" rear, plus the DSE rear was a lot more work to install vs. the Ridetech.

[chevelletiger]

^^^! What he said,mike isnt on here but call him and telk him what you want to do with the car.

[69stang]

http://shop.mustangstofear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_17_298&products_id=173
http://martzchassis.net/catalog-2/mustang-46/1965-68-1969-72-mustang-suspension-systems/
http://www.cachassisworks.com/c-804-total-control-products-classic-ford.aspx

I'm leaning towards Mustangs to Fear for my 69. I agree with others on upgrading the stock components and the Arning drop if its just a street cruiser. Mine currently has an early Global West front suspension kit up front. The DSE and The Roadster Shop options are nice but real pricey.

[69stang]

more

http://jimmeyerracing.com/products/ifs_65-72_mustang.shtml
https://www.streetrodengineering.com/products/1967-68-ford-mustang-ultra-ride-kit