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Damn True
11-29-2005, 08:27 PM
Ok, you just won powerball. You have more $$$ than you know what to do with.

Would you choose the Unique Performance GT-350SR or the Foose Camaro?

..and why.

Ralph LoGrasso
11-29-2005, 08:34 PM
I'd go with the 350SR, because everyone's got '69 Camaros these days. Who am I to talk, though--I've got a '68.

I'd then proceed to modify the 350SR to my likings, because I can't leave anything "stock", even if it was designed by Foose. Probably things like wheels (3 piece, not bling), and a custom paint scheme. Or can you already do that when ordering? I'm not up on Unique's operation...

As a third option, I'd just commission a 1-off, turn key build from the likes of Trepanier, Foose, Strope, Stielow, Alloway, etc. Whoever could meet my expectations, and since I've got money to burn, who ever could do it the quickest.

Steve1968LS2
11-29-2005, 08:36 PM
No brainer.. the GT-350SR.. :drool:

One of my favorite cars..

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

More pics..

http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0601phr_uniq/

Steve1968LS2
11-29-2005, 08:37 PM
I'd go with the Foose Camaro, because the "Eleanor" cars are a dime a dozen these days, or atleast it seems that way.
.

The GT-350SR is NOT the Elenor car.. shame on you for saying that!! lol

The Elenor car is way down on my list..

Ralph LoGrasso
11-29-2005, 08:38 PM
The GT-350SR is NOT the Elenor car.. shame on you for saying that!! lol

The Elenor car is way down on my list..


I was editing my post as you were typing this, lmao. Check it again. Shame on me is right, I had no idea :doh:!

Either way, I'd go with whatever was "less" mainstream. If I could start over on my build, I'd probably start with a 2nd gen, rather than a first, as I like to be different; three years ago, g-Machine '68s weren't as popular as they currently are.

will69camaro
11-29-2005, 10:23 PM
I think i'd finish my car, they buy a new Z06. I'd start a new 69 if i didn't have one even if they are mainstream...I'm building it for me.

William

vanzuuk1
11-30-2005, 03:57 AM
Out of those two cars, I would take the mustang. Its less "disco" than the camaro.

andrewb70
11-30-2005, 05:51 AM
Ok, you just won powerball. You have more $$$ than you know what to do with.

Would you choose the Unique Performance GT-350SR or the Foose Camaro?

..and why.

I will take door number 3, build my own.

Andrew

MarkM66
11-30-2005, 05:56 AM
I will take door number 3, build my own.

Andrew

Ditto!

boodlefoof
11-30-2005, 06:23 AM
Ditto!


Double Ditto!

Dagger
11-30-2005, 06:26 AM
I'd have Troy Trepanier whip me up a twin turbo "Rogan"esque style Cuda' or Charger.......without the useless 22" rims.

Travis B
11-30-2005, 07:31 AM
I think most of us would rather build our own however since the thread asks......I would take a Foose camaro w/572ci BBC option......and rip the stick on rocker extensions off :3gears:

Mean 69
11-30-2005, 07:55 AM
The Mustang, without question. I saw them at SEMA, they are really nice (even though I'd rip out the suspension.....). They really nailed it, not over-done, just a really modernized rendition, it is one really nice car. I like this one better than the Unique "67" Mustang too, although it too is a super nice car.

Your mileage may vary.
M

Steve1968LS2
11-30-2005, 08:10 AM
I will take door number 3, build my own.

Andrew


You guys arn't playing by the rules.. there was no "option C" of "build your own"..

The Mustang was really done well and I couldn't find many things I would do differently. I would even be willing to drive it on the track before I decided to keep or ditch the rear suspension.

Has a REALLY nice gas tank as well ;)

Mean 69
11-30-2005, 09:14 AM
So, any of you performance oriented and handling nuts see anything(s) interesting in the photo? Not a knock on the car overall, but there are two glaring issues with this car, as it is going through the corner, and some not so glaring.

Even the really high end cars can use some help from time to time. I'd still love one. And I'd still rip out the suspension.
M

kmcanally
11-30-2005, 10:21 AM
I would also take the Mustang...and like some others said I would have to change a few things. I crawled all over this car at Goodguys Ft Worth...I did not particularly care for the dash, Coddington wheels or the horizontal coil-over rear suspension like the one they put in the smellanors. I really like the weberesque EFI on the 427W and I think the exhaust is kewl.

will69camaro
11-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Are the issues with the pic that the passenger side wheel is loosing contact and the driverside you can see positive camber?

William

jeffandre
11-30-2005, 10:29 AM
So, any of you performance oriented and handling nuts see anything(s) interesting in the photo? Not a knock on the car overall, but there are two glaring issues with this car, as it is going through the corner, and some not so glaring.M

I'm thinking a bit too much body lean and not enough negative camber and/or positive caster.

Steve1968LS2
11-30-2005, 10:45 AM
I was thinking the passengers side front tire almost loosing contact.. and the body lean..

BUT, this was a photo shoot so the idea is to make the car do something so that action is translated into a static shot. I would bet that Johnny had the guy doing very very tight fast circles in order TO GET the car to lean over. Not making an excuse just pointing something out.

Steve1968LS2
11-30-2005, 10:48 AM
I did not particularly care for the dash, Coddington wheels or the horizontal coil-over rear suspension like the one they put in the smellanors.

Those are FOOSE wheels.. personally I would toss on some grey centered Forgelines or HRE's.. that car needs a three piece wheel.

I loved the interior and whats not to love about the engine. The car seemed much better thought out than the Camaro.

Mark oughta contact Unique about offering a three-link "upgrade" option on thier cars.. lol

Todds69
11-30-2005, 11:15 AM
Probably would have to take the Mustang...I already a '69 Camaro. Don't care for the ground effects or the paint scheme on the Foose Camaro.

ProTeal55
11-30-2005, 12:11 PM
I am a Bowtie guy thru and thru , even though I own a Ford Excursion , but I will have to go with the Mustang on this one. Maybe opt for a killer turbo setup or something.

Don't kill me for saying this , but I don't think the Foose Camaro is all that special...

andrewb70
11-30-2005, 01:10 PM
You guys arn't playing by the rules.. there was no "option C" of "build your own"..


Rules? There are rules?

Internet forums are a non contact sport, thus there are no rules.

If I was forced to choose, it would be the Mustang. You can't swing a dead cat anymore without hitting a 1st gen Camaro.

Andrew

Travis B
11-30-2005, 01:16 PM
You can't swing a dead cat anymore without hitting a 1st gen Camaro.

Andrew

:lol:

well said

Ralph LoGrasso
11-30-2005, 01:55 PM
I think i'd finish my car, they buy a new Z06. I'd start a new 69 if i didn't have one even if they are mainstream...I'm building it for me.

William

I'm building my car for me as well, but I still like to be different in what I do.

I also would've chosen option 3 of build it yourself, but I was trying to play by the rules. I harbor extreme reluctance with letting anyone work on any area of my cars, unless they're very close friends whose work I trust, or family.

bnickel
11-30-2005, 02:43 PM
if i just won the powerball and had more money than i knew what to do with... i'd buy both and a cuda when they start putting those out the door and a custom built eleanor, acapulco blue, no hood stripes and a diferent hood. i'd also have to make them do some changes on the interior too. why? so i could have whole set. there are a few other cars i would buy as well.

Matt
11-30-2005, 03:15 PM
I'd take the rustang. I love Camaros, but foose butchered that one, that hood is so effin ugly, and the motor wouldn't have been my choice. Usually I think foose does a pretty good job, not always my style, but yiggity, I can't get down with that camaro.

kmcanally
11-30-2005, 03:17 PM
Those are FOOSE wheels..

Your right...my bad.

Ralph LoGrasso
11-30-2005, 03:22 PM
I'd take the rustang. I love Camaros, but foose butchered that one, that hood is so effin ugly, and the motor wouldn't have been my choice. Usually I think foose does a pretty good job, not always my style, but yiggity, I can't get down with that camaro.


I'm pretty sure the hood was designed by Year One? It was off of their '69 convertible, I believe. It's supposed to resemble the LS1 SS hood, but in my opinion, looks more like the LT1 SS hood.

Damn True
11-30-2005, 05:02 PM
IMO the big block in the Foose car is the deal breaker. What the? And, IMO the Camaro looks waaaaay too pro-park, pro-show, street-rodish for me. Every time I see those photos I expect to see a freakin crying toddler doll leaning on it.

I'd opt for the mustang. It's lighter, looks more race and less street-rod. I'd option in a cage, better seats and have mark shoehorn in a Lat-D 3-link.

Steve1968LS2
11-30-2005, 05:08 PM
IMO the big block in the Foose car is the deal breaker. What the? And, IMO the Camaro looks waaaaay too pro-park, pro-show, street-rodish for me. Every time I see those photos I expect to see a freakin crying toddler doll leaning on it.

I'd opt for the mustang. It's lighter, looks more race and less street-rod. I'd option in a cage, better seats and have mark shoehorn in a Lat-D 3-link.

You can order the Foose car with a blown LS2.. to me that would be a much cooler engine..

The seats in the Stang are actually quite comfortable and supportive.. they will be going in my Mustang (they are Procar seats)

Damn True
11-30-2005, 05:14 PM
You can order the Foose car with a blown LS2.. to me that would be a much cooler engine..

The seats in the Stang are actually quite comfortable and supportive.. they will be going in my Mustang (they are Procar seats)
Im sure they are a good functional seat. I just don't care for the adjustable headrest. I'd prefer a modern racing seat.

kmcanally
11-30-2005, 05:55 PM
I am putting Procar seats in my Mustang...but without the headrests. I dont like the look of the seat extending above the top of the door.

qwik1320
11-30-2005, 06:04 PM
I'd take the Mustang, even though I'd probably break out in a rash driving it! The Mustang looks great and they didn't "pimp" it up. Foose really screwed up the Camaro (hood, ground effects, paint... :sad4: )

69rs
11-30-2005, 06:28 PM
You can't swing a dead cat anymore without hitting a 1st gen Camaro.

Andrew
Yeah, but isn't it fun to try?!?

will69camaro
12-01-2005, 04:40 AM
I'm building my car for me as well, but I still like to be different in what I do.

I also would've chosen option 3 of build it yourself, but I was trying to play by the rules. I harbor extreme reluctance with letting anyone work on any area of my cars, unless they're very close friends whose work I trust, or family.

Good i'm glad your building it for yourself, i'm just saying in general i've seen a trend of people not wanting 69's because they're too "trendy." I like the lines of it the best out of any camaro is why i'm building mine... I will have a 2nd gen but not sure the plans on it, i just need to finish the hugger orange car collection i have started...

William

steemin
12-01-2005, 07:24 AM
I would take the 350SR.
This is not based on any bias that I might have being a Mustang owner.
I saw these two cars side by side at the Fall Kruse Auction.
IMHO
The 350 SR makes the Foose Camaro look like a cartoon Caricature...
Scott

Mean 69
12-01-2005, 08:00 AM
Are the issues with the pic that the passenger side wheel is loosing contact and the driverside you can see positive camber?

Yeah, that is basically what we saw, but more what the outside tire is doing, it's leaning over pretty far, and not in the right direction. This is a really good graphic demonstration of suspension compromise, you just can't have it all. In this case, the control arms on the early Mustangs are relatively short, so if you try to bump up camber gain, your roll center moves all over, if you leave it modest, then you need to start out with a whole bunch of static camber. I'm not going to knock it too much, there isn't a whole lot you can do to "solve" the issue on this car, other than a pretty massive re-construction. The body lean is hard to determine, I thought it looked really flat, but then Katz pointed out the angle of the pic, it is hard to tell. But, if you have poor suspension behavior in roll, you'll basically want to resist the roll with a big bar, or stiffer springs. Anyway, this car will have a good amount of understeer, at least it will be easier for the amateur to drive like that though (versus tail-happy).

The other thing I saw was corrected by Katz: it looked to me like the body is bowing due to the cornering force, but in the "wrong" way? Check out the body line on the fender and door, it is supposed to be a flat-ish contour, but this one has a good deal of curve. There is a static shot from the back on the website though, and that feature is still there. I can't believe I am picky enough to look at body fit, you darned show car guys are rubbing off on me!! It might be due to the front flares? Dunno. I love the subtle rear flares though, and the exhaust is sweet. If anyone has pic's of how they pulled off the exhaust, I'd be very, very interested.

Mark

kmcanally
12-01-2005, 09:40 AM
I also noticed the body line drooping down towards the front past the doors....I wonder if these are fiberglass fenders?

steemin
12-01-2005, 11:22 AM
I also noticed the body line drooping down towards the front past the doors....I wonder if these are fiberglass fenders?
Yes they are fiberglass fenders..
Scott