Ridetech Modular spindle?

[130fe]

I saw this last week at Ridetech's booth at Cruisin the Coast in Biloxi. Anyone have any information on it?

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[Josh@Ridetech]

Definitely a cool piece. Is there any specific information that you're looking for?

http://www.ridetech.com/products/track-1/track-1-modular-spindles/

[130fe]

Just curious if anyone is using one yet? Looked like a nice piece!

[USAZR1]

Those are some serious looking spindles.

[dhutton]

Price doesn’t work for me. I’m just not seeing it. I would go with a Speedtech Extreme subframe.

Don

[Josh@Ridetech]

Just curious if anyone is using one yet? Looked like a nice piece!
With them being very new, we don't have a large amount of them out but there are a few customers that have them. Dan Ballard has them on his Nova, Rod Scott has them on his C2, and we have them on our 48 Hour Camaro/48 Hour Corvette. They're a very nice piece!

Those are some serious looking spindles.
Thanks! They're a really cool piece. With the new Track 1 kits, it's a great piece to add to that parts line up. That kit isn't for everyone but if you're building a serious, high performance car and want to keep the factory subframe, the kit turns it into an absolute animal :cheers:.

[raustinss]

great looking piece but yeah that price is nuts ....almost twice as much as afx spindles . I'm going to say similar to their tigercage awesome parts and the engineering that has gone into them but,the price point is too high

[SSLOW6.0]

Serious looking yes, but I am weary of ANY aftermarket spindle, regardless of manufacture. Being on the OE side of suspension things for my day job, I'd like to see the DVPR for testing on anything that holds my wheel to the suspension. I'd also like to see some sort of anti rotation feature on the Allen head bolts that hold the spindle together.

[Ryanater]

Looks like an awesome piece.

Are the dimensions/height similar to the existing Ridetech spindle for the 1st gen Camaro?

[bret]

Looks like an awesome piece.

Are the dimensions/height similar to the existing Ridetech spindle for the 1st gen Camaro?


The basic dimensions [KPI, overall height, track width] are identical to our forged RideTech pin type spindle that is included with many of our suspension systems. The steering arms have been optimized for a more appropriate Ackermann angle for most autocross and road course cars that are using race tires.

Yes, the dollar amount is quite high. That is because they are custom built from 7075 T6 aluminum. The material, the modularity and the low quantities allow us the ability to customize these per vehicle application AND type of racing being addressed. At $2500/pair, they are certainly NOT for everyone. Our forged pin type spindle has performed without fail for years, but with the added grip from wide sticky race tires, we saw enough pin flex to induce some brake pad knockback. We cured most of that with the SpeedTech Extreme spindle [a very nice piece that we also use and sell]. This modular design was inspired by our desire to be able to customize the geometry easily per application...and to address more applications in the future.

As for the concept of fastener integrity...we use ALL ARP extreme duty fasteners in conjunction with an appropriate application of Loctite during assembly. As with ANY RACECAR component, part of the vital checklist before any race is to validate the torque of every fastener.

While I would love to sell you all a dozen sets of these pieces of jewelry [and cheerfully will :)] your money would be better spent on our forged RideTech spindle [or the SpeedTech extreme spindle] with the excess being spent on a great set of shocks [we have those as well :)].

If, however, you truly need the strongest spindle available and desire the ability to customize the geometry to your liking...well, we can do that too.

[dontlifttoshift]

Let me know when the 2nd gen F-body is ready.

[krom]

Will any of the individual parts be available? The website is pretty low on info.

Also IMHO locktite doesn't cut it on something like this. It might work ok the first time, if all the directions are followed, and everything is spotless. I'm surprised that there isn't even a provision for safety wire, or some other positive fastener retaining solution.

There is room to machine a clearance and use a castle nut with cotter pin, or nyloc on the inside of the upper ball joint mount, and steering arm.

There is a thread on here somewhere where Ron Sutton was talking about modular dirt track uprights that have a tendency to come apart because the bolts back out.

[bret]

Let me know when the 2nd gen F-body is ready.

It will be ready 30 days after you order it. :)
you will notice a set on our new Gen 2 Camaro that we just did a facebook post on.

[CSG]

Bret,

I am a bit confused now. My car is a 69 camaro if that matters. Above you talk about using the speedtech spindle and that appears to be part of the trackone stuff. But I have read you guys state several times that the AFX spindle increases bump steer over your tru-turn spindle. Has something changed or are you trading bump steer for better pad knock-back prevention? Or am I just not understanding something?

[killer69]

Let me know when the 2nd gen F-body is ready.

We have them on the shelf in the Extreme spindle.

[killer69]

Bret,

I am a bit confused now. My car is a 69 camaro if that matters. Above you talk about using the speedtech spindle and that appears to be part of the trackone stuff. But I have read you guys state several times that the AFX spindle increases bump steer over your tru-turn spindle. Has something changed or are you trading bump steer for better pad knock-back prevention? Or am I just not understanding something?

WHEN used with the tru turn, the factory A body steering arm Ridetech uses doesn't work due to the fact that the AFX spindle has the steering arm mount holes in a non stock location. So all the other components in the Tru turn have been designed around the stock A body steering arm and stock mounting location. that is the difference, I am sure Bret will correct me if I am off a little. it coudl be made to work perfectly but you woudl need a custom steering arm.

[dontlifttoshift]

It will be ready 30 days after you order it. :)
you will notice a set on our new Gen 2 Camaro that we just did a facebook post on.

Let me get the rear straightened out first.

[MonzaRacer]

Bret,

I am a bit confused now. My car is a 69 camaro if that matters. Above you talk about using the speedtech spindle and that appears to be part of the trackone stuff. But I have read you guys state several times that the AFX spindle increases bump steer over your tru-turn spindle. Has something changed or are you trading bump steer for better pad knock-back prevention? Or am I just not understanding something?

I would say they simply redesigned a steering arm to correct the issues as the Speedtech parts are pretty good and many have started with those then wanted to go further with Ridetech suspension parts. But this is just a theory.

[CSG]

I would say they simply redesigned a steering arm to correct the issues as the Speedtech parts are pretty good and many have started with those then wanted to go further with Ridetech suspension parts. But this is just a theory.

I suspect that is correct but with the modular design thrown in as well (cool piece for sure). I really don't understand why we are mostly offered non-adjustable bump-steer (by all the vendors). No two cars are ever perfectly the same. Checking bump and adjusting with shims is normal in the other circles I hang out in.

[Mean 69]

"I really don't understand why we are mostly offered non-adjustable bump-steer (by all the vendors). No two cars are ever perfectly the same. Checking bump and adjusting with shims is normal in the other circles I hang out in."

There are many folks that couldn't agree more with you. Fundamental tuning.
Mark

[Kenova]

WHEN used with the tru turn, the factory A body steering arm Ridetech uses doesn't work due to the fact that the AFX spindle has the steering arm mount holes in a non stock location........

Are the AFX steering arm holes higher or lower than stock? By how much?

Ken