The banned list

[Jim Nilsen]

After thinking of not being able to paint my car because I can't buy paint anymore I had the thought that if all of the mechanics in the country didn't fix the cars of all of the people that want to stop us from buying paint were banned from repairs and maintenance, what would they think then?

Just a thought and wonder what you all think of the idea?
I know it won't happen but it sure would be interesting if we could do it.

Jim Nilsen

[formula]

wait wait wait wait, we cant buy paint anymore unless we're professionals?

when did this happen?

I've been thinking for a long time that somebody out there needed to put together a serious list of good shops and bad shops in the united states..maybe if it happened, we could somehow add "hobbyist supporter" or "anti-hobbyist" to each entry...

[Bigblue73]

Good morning Jim - If you can't buy paint in Rockford, try over in Freeport or at Body Shop Supply in Beloit/Janesville or Madison. When did this start? I'd try another supply house.

[BonzoHansen]

I think he means if the proposed ban becomes law.

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12174

[trapin]

Well....I know what I'm asking Santa for this year.

[Jim Nilsen]

Yes that is what I mean. If the proposed law goes into effect it will stop all of us. Right now it is hard enough to do work on your own car with all of the laws they keep passing to stop us, but when they do this it will really make saving money on a paint job impossible. The cost of painting a car will probably go up too just because they will have to meet the current laws that require the painters to have special equipment that they might not have to comply.

There are so few people that paint their own cars it is probably never going to make a difference in the environment but it is the money they are probably after anyway.

The way they are going you won't be able to buy paint unless you have a permit like you do when you work on your house. You can't buy spray cans unless you are over 18 so you can promise you won't paint graffiti on anything, yet you still see graffiti on buildings and signs around where I live.

I know that there are problems that need to be resolved but when will these people start at the root of the problem instead of going for the easy prey like us.

I just get tired of all of these people who want save the world coming to those of us who do all of the work and telling us how to do it. If most of them even had a clue how to solve a problem on their own we wouldn't be in the messes we are in to begin with.

When waterbase paints become the everyday thing to use do you think they will drop the ban on us buying paint? The paint shops don't have anything to lose and niether do the bodyshops so we probably can't depend on them for any resistance to keep us being able to paint our own cars even if it won't hurt anyone anymore.

The sign on a wall once read" price subject to change according to attitude" the new sign that should go up is " price subject to change according to your proffession"

Formula, you have the same idea I have and I really do think it would make an impact if we all worked together to make them suffer the consequences of not having things go their way when they need something from others that they have made suffer with their ideals of how the world should be.

With all of the things going on in this world I just had to get this out of my system :seizure: , Thanks for being here!!!!

[EFI69Cam]

They (the EPA creeps :kiss: ) don't like the old car hobby, never have. The fact is, where I live you have to beg aand grovel to get a shop to paint your old car.
There is a series of articles on the Camaros.net site written by a body shop owner (MartinSR) that explains it. Collision repair is an easy way to make money, the insurance companies pay retail for parts, and pay the $60-$70 an hour shop rates to R&R and finish panels. There is hardly any "body work" involved anymore.
The one shop in my town that agreed to look at my car is one that I have been bringing all my collision work to for 10 years. The owner is a cool vietnam vet biker who loves old cars. He is the only one who would even look at it.
They :kiss: are trying to squeeze the hobbists out by cutting out the source of services (same with machine shops)