Starter Shim Issues [Archive]

gchandler

11-11-2005, 08:34 PM

So I have an issue with my starter not disengauging quick enough. Figured that it was a shim issue, but I have added 100 thousanths of shim with not change. Do I keep going, or do I have another issue here?

nancejd

11-11-2005, 08:51 PM

I don't know that disengagement of the starter would be a shim issue. Sounds more like a sticking solenoid to me.

gchandler

11-11-2005, 09:01 PM

How do I resolve a sticking soleniod? Cleaning?

gchandler

11-11-2005, 09:32 PM

The solenoid looks good. It is a small style gm starter.I took the unit out of the car and took the solenoid off. The gears move in and out cleanly and the solenoids spring seems to be in good shape. The spring pulls the gear back into the starter when I release the gear.

I will try some more shims and see what happens.

Is it possible that I have my start wire going to the wrong terminal on the starter. They are not labeled.

HILROD

11-12-2005, 07:46 AM

If your block has been align bored the crank could be too far away from the starter already. I have had to have the starter pad milled a little to raise it before. After the one car was sold the new owner changed the starter and I re-did it with a grinder. It still works.

MrQuick

11-12-2005, 06:38 PM

hey geoff, try mounting the starter, snug the bolts just to seat them. disco your ignition and crank the motor for 10 sec. Then torque the bolts to spec. hope it works for you.

David Pozzi

11-12-2005, 07:36 PM

Is that the GM starter with the solenoid on the bottom?

gchandler

11-13-2005, 09:31 AM

It is a GM starter. Here are some pictures from summit.

Solenoid:
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=gm+mini+starter&x=0&y=0&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&searchinresults=false&N=0&target=egnsearch.asp

Starter:
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=gm+mini+starter&x=0&y=0&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&searchinresults=false&N=0&target=egnsearch.asp

My starter is not powermaster, but it is this same design.

Is it possible that I am wiring it up wrong and it is causing the problem?

I am using a ford remote solenoid and I have the two post jumped on the starter.

sinned

11-13-2005, 10:24 AM

I'd get rid of the remote solenoid, with a Hitatchi style starter it isn't nesessary and just adding to the potential list of problems.

gchandler

11-13-2005, 04:45 PM

The reason that I like the remove solenoid is that it I run my battery in the trunk, so it gives me a nice place to hook up things like my MSD, Fan, Alternator, Etc. I guess that I could simply replace it with a junction block, but it seems that the issue that I am having is not being caused by having a ford style solenoid. I will try pulling it out of the system and see it my problem is solved.

MrQuick

11-14-2005, 09:00 AM

Ho old is that solinoid? sometimes they can release slow. Try a newer style one.

Y-TRY

11-14-2005, 07:44 PM

I was going through something similar and remember running across this page... This should do the trick... Especially read the 3rd paragraph.

Tips Here (http://www.novaresource.org/starter.htm)

Good luck.

gchandler

11-14-2005, 10:21 PM

That Is It. On The Money. Good Show.

The ford solenoid is no longer needed when you wire it in this method, but if, like me, you use the posts to hook up msd, etc, it is nice to keep it there. I guess that I could replace it with some sort of junction block. I will let you guys know if I find something nice.

Y-TRY

11-15-2005, 05:30 PM

That Is It. On The Money. Good Show.

The ford solenoid is no longer needed when you wire it in this method, but if, like me, you use the posts to hook up msd, etc, it is nice to keep it there. I guess that I could replace it with some sort of junction block. I will let you guys know if I find something nice.

I ended up finding another problem in mine, but I also want to keep the remote solenoid for a convenient junction block.