New Camaro Coupe Body @ SEMA [Archive]

96Z28SS

11-08-2005, 01:05 PM

Talked to the guy for a bit he said anywhere from $13 to $15k was what the price would be.

Also took a pic of the convertible body that they had at the Auto Twirler booth, I'm not impressed with there quality control.

Steve1968LS2

11-08-2005, 01:36 PM

I don't get it.. $15k for a coupe body??? Hell you can get a whole car for less than that and have zero VIN issues plus all them "nickle and dime" parts that really rape your budget..

Ralph LoGrasso

11-08-2005, 01:45 PM

I don't get it.. $15k for a coupe body??? Hell you can get a whole car for less than that and have zero VIN issues plus all them "nickle and dime" parts that really rape your budget..

I agree. $15k is pretty high for just a body, that will undoubtably have some fit issues needing extra work ($$) to make it look like original.

I haven't been following these cars, so maybe I'm wrong, but if its like other kit cars, it will need to pass a sniffer here in NY, and several other states as well. It would suck to have extremely limited drivetrain possibilites because of emissions concerns on your "69" Camaro. No emissions for '73 and under here, and there are many ways to pass the '96 and up (especially LSX cars (i.e. 4th gens) because of the tuning capabilities) OBDII emissions, since there is no sniffer, only code checks.

Cool idea in concept, but the price is a bit high, and the emissions issue would kill those of us who have emissions test.

protour_chevelle

11-08-2005, 01:55 PM

For being 15k and especially for just a body... The metal work is disgusting... Just my opinion though.

-Matt

B Schein

11-08-2005, 02:01 PM

Obviously who ever put that body together in the second picture has no idea what in the hell they are doing and have no business putting these bodies together. YOU PUT THE TAIL PAINAL ON OVER TOP THE QUATER!!! That’s why it looks like crap the wrinkly piece is suppose to be under the tail panel not on top of it :banghead: :banghead:

Whistler

11-08-2005, 02:13 PM

I don't think they'll have a problem selling. Plenty of people would rather start with fresh new steel, and don't care about the cost.

Nine Ball

11-08-2005, 02:23 PM

I read somewhere that the coupe actually costs more to reproduce than the convertible. Once you spend the amount needed for the 'vert frame and roof, it comes out to about the same price as the coupe shell.

Steve1968LS2

11-08-2005, 02:26 PM

YOU PUT THE TAIL PAINAL ON OVER TOP THE QUATER!!! That’s why it looks like crap the wrinkly piece is suppose to be under the tail panel not on top of it :banghead: :banghead:

I don't think they will want to be using that picture in their sales brochure.. lol

96Z28SS

11-08-2005, 02:37 PM

I don't think they will want to be using that picture in their sales brochure.. lol

I had to sneak that picture of the tail panel on the convertible body cause there were signs up "no cameras please". I just had to though I mean it should of been so obvious that the tail panel goes over the quater panel flange. I hope that the quality control is better than when that one got built.

Big $$$

11-08-2005, 02:57 PM

I've been waiting for this for a long time. I'd buy one just to know my camaro had no bondo at all.

parsonsj

11-08-2005, 03:13 PM

Or one could go with a carbon fiber body:

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/images/SixtynineRSS-1-1024x768.jpg

jp

96Z28SS

11-08-2005, 03:34 PM

Or one could go with a carbon fiber body:

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/images/SixtynineRSS-1-1024x768.jpg

jp

hmmm very interesting.

Steve1968LS2

11-08-2005, 03:54 PM

Or one could go with a carbon fiber body:

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/images/SixtynineRSS-1-1024x768.jpg

jp

How much for just the hood and the front upper valance???????

vanzuuk1

11-08-2005, 03:59 PM

Heres what would be interesting; You get an all steel body, no rust, and you cage it it and tub it and whatever else and then you dip it or powdercoat the bare shell. Now you have a car built the way it should be from the beginning , you should not have to worry about it rotting away. Its a clean way to do a car without all the sandblasting and parts everywhere.Whats it cost to get a rusty car to that point?, It cant be that far off.

This would only make sense if the repro shell were a quality piece , not what I have heard so far.

vanzuuk1

11-08-2005, 04:02 PM

WOW that tail panel looks like crap! So much for that idea.

Steve , did you get my email about the carpet?

BRIAN

11-08-2005, 05:39 PM

That has got to be a mistake.

By a rusted shell and invest the additional $10k into sheetmetal. Heck even send it to Goodmark and it will be less. No title issues to deal with.

Who said it wouldn't still need body repairs even though it was new? Tack on couple thousand into getting it straight.

There is no such thing as a car without filler of some sort. Talk to any body or restoration shop not the builder.

I just don't think there is such a shortage of Camaro's that the entire shell is needed yet?

enzo

11-08-2005, 06:07 PM

2 words...

BUTT UGLY

dropit69

11-08-2005, 06:41 PM

ithere is a huge layout in the newest hotrod about the body dynacorn makes..the built a whole car ground up ..i guess it was at sema last year ..the convet is 10.500 then 500 crate fee and up too 600 shipping..they are working on the coupe now..and gm is letting you call them camaros..

vanzuuk1

11-08-2005, 06:58 PM

What about time? I am not saying I am a fan of the repro body, just asking for opinions, there is something to be said for how much time you save . Also, say you have a car you are driving and you know someday you want to get rid of any hidden rust and take the car to the next level, cage tubs etc., you can do the repro body and use your car in the meantime.

What would it cost to get a rusty shell to that point if you dont own a body shop?

Like I said, if the repro body is that bad its not worth it.

Bill Howell

11-08-2005, 07:02 PM

I've been waiting for this for a long time. I'd buy one just to know my camaro had no bondo at all.

Uhmm, from what I saw, there will be plenty bondo in these. Maybe no rust, but plenty bondo, unless of course you can lead.

BonzoHansen

11-08-2005, 07:07 PM

Too much money. I am surprised it is so much more than the 'vert ($10k).

Rick Dorion

11-09-2005, 05:08 AM

My personal feeling is that the quality issues will be resolved. They have to be and, from a discussion I had with Jim Barber, I think the intent is there. Once that point is reached, I see these as having a place in the industry/hobby.

wantahertzdonut

11-09-2005, 05:31 AM

I think it's a good idea but the price seriously must come down. Last I checked, part of the point of making a replica is so most everyone can afford a car that would cost too much for the original.

The best part about a replica like this is you could thrash on it to no end and not have to worry about ruining an original car. For me that's great, since originality and rarity are a turnoff. But the price for a bare shell is also a turnoff. I hope the quality goes up and the price comes down with numbers.

Anyone know what country these are being made in?

TA219

11-09-2005, 05:49 AM

whew....i am glad i saw these pictures before i put my new tail panel on, i was going to do it all wrong :lol:

JMarsa

11-09-2005, 07:58 AM

Or one could go with a carbon fiber body:

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/...-1-1024x768.jpg

jp
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John Parsons

John,

Do you know anymore about them? Think it's really going to happen?

--JMarsa

parsonsj

11-09-2005, 02:50 PM

Jmarsa,

Yes, it's really going to happen. I've met and talked to the people who are building the first version at length. They have a completed body, and are now getting the car built and running. I missed a chance to visit their facility this past summer, but I've seen detailed pix of their cf bucks and even provided a wee bit of help with some of their wheel spacing. It turns out the ride height is very similar to II Much.

An untold story is that I strongly considered switching II Much to a cf body about a year ago, but decided against it as just one change too many. Since then, I've been in contact with them.

I'll pass along some more information as I get it.

jp

JMarsa

11-09-2005, 03:31 PM

Cool! Definately something to watch for!

--JMarsa

Doug Harden

11-09-2005, 03:33 PM

Another option....it's more $$, but it comes with a valid title :D

http://www.mikescustomcars.com/69bodies.htm

68protouring454

11-09-2005, 04:02 PM

I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY BROUGHT THAT TO SEMA!!! wtf is wrong with them, some dirt dumb installed 1/4 flange over the tail panel!!!lmao
glad i am not in the market for one of these
jake

Marty G Cars

11-09-2005, 04:03 PM

Hey John, is the carbon fiber company a certain group of individuals :scared: that I might know?

parsonsj

11-09-2005, 04:50 PM

Marty,

Yeah ... I think you may have heard of these guys. :naughty:

jp

Steve Chryssos

11-09-2005, 04:57 PM

Hey John, is the carbon fiber company a certain group of individuals that I might know?

Marty,
Yeah ... I think you may have heard of these guys. :naughty:
jp

What is this? Goodfellas?

vanzuuk1

11-09-2005, 05:03 PM

"Do I know this bloke?"

"This is a bloke you know."

Great gangster movie with ben kingsley.

parsonsj

11-09-2005, 05:03 PM

Goodfellas?

Damned funny as usual!

jp

Steve1968LS2

11-09-2005, 05:27 PM

Damned funny as usual!

jp

Funny like a clown??? (reaching in coat for gun)..

camaro608

11-09-2005, 06:51 PM

they better be perfect bodys to pay for that
and no bondo...............bondo sucks

Ralph LoGrasso

11-09-2005, 07:27 PM

"Do I know this bloke?"

"This is a bloke you know."

Great gangster movie with ben kingsley.

"Which thing are you talking about, the first thing or the second thing?"

"How can we talk about the first thing, if we don't talk about the second thing? Did you talk to the guy?"

"What guy"

"You know, the guy. The guy with the thing." LMAO. Not a great gangster movie, but a damn funny movie.

shep

11-10-2005, 08:11 AM

Travis B

11-10-2005, 08:21 AM

I was under the impression the evolution car is a hush hush deal until the plug is finished......

Jmarsa,

Yes, it's really going to happen. I've met and talked to the people who are building the first version at length. They have a completed body, and are now getting the car built and running. I missed a chance to visit their facility this past summer, but I've seen detailed pix of their cf bucks and even provided a wee bit of help with some of their wheel spacing. It turns out the ride height is very similar to II Much.

An untold story is that I strongly considered switching II Much to a cf body about a year ago, but decided against it as just one change too many. Since then, I've been in contact with them.

I'll pass along some more information as I get it.

jp

jack67rs

11-13-2005, 07:45 AM

Taiwan sheetmetal sucks and will always suck that is all their is to it!!! Anyone who has worked with this stuff feels the some way I'm positive of that. You will definetly need to get the bondo out for these things.